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#4541 panos

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 10:23 AM

Nobody from them is gonna give you information or products about how to TRULY regenerate skin.

Trust me,i know what i am talking about here.



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Posted 26 May 2013 - 06:03 PM

Hi Panos

 

Do you have a link for this>

 

Info from JHU from the fb page.

 

"The dextran hydrogel for wound healing is to enter large animal trials this summer. If the trials are successful – we will be entering the veterinary market within a year after that. Human trials will start shortly after we have entered the veterinary market."

 

 

I couldn't find it, thanks! Mars



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Posted 27 May 2013 - 01:47 PM

Hey guys, 

 

can anyone give me an update on Acell? Has anyone tried it here yet?

 

I´ve found out it is available online already.. I just don´t know if it´s worth the money...

 

I´ve been trying to find updates in the forum but I´ve lost track around page 120:)

 

Thanks! 

 

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 02:29 PM

Someone tried it and the results weren't what you'd hope they'd be.

 

Acell can only do so much for so many people, it seems.

 

 

Hey guys, 

 

can anyone give me an update on Acell? Has anyone tried it here yet?

 

I´ve found out it is available online already.. I just don´t know if it´s worth the money...

 

I´ve been trying to find updates in the forum but I´ve lost track around page 120:)

 

Thanks! 

 

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 02:52 PM

Someone tried it and the results weren't what you'd hope they'd be.

 

Acell can only do so much for so many people, it seems.

 

 

Hey guys, 

 

can anyone give me an update on Acell? Has anyone tried it here yet?

 

I´ve found out it is available online already.. I just don´t know if it´s worth the money...

 

I´ve been trying to find updates in the forum but I´ve lost track around page 120:)

 

Thanks! 

 

.

 

Thank you, Lapis lazuli

 

you have just saved me a lot of money :) But I actually expected that, it looked a little too sensational...

 

So what is the method of treating scars you recommend the most at the moment? Is there anything that works for you?

 

Thanks!



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Posted 27 May 2013 - 03:26 PM

Getting over them is a good treatment. What also works wonders is not caring about them. I could go on but you get the idea.

 

For me laser treatments did help. But it isn't a miracle treatment and it only has a positive effect in certain ways.

 

And yes, ACell claims certain things it maybe shouldn't. rolleyes.gifsmile.png

 

 

 

Someone tried it and the results weren't what you'd hope they'd be.

 

Acell can only do so much for so many people, it seems.

 

 

Hey guys, 

 

can anyone give me an update on Acell? Has anyone tried it here yet?

 

I´ve found out it is available online already.. I just don´t know if it´s worth the money...

 

I´ve been trying to find updates in the forum but I´ve lost track around page 120:)

 

Thanks! 

 

.

 

Thank you, Lapis lazuli

 

you have just saved me a lot of money smile.png But I actually expected that, it looked a little too sensational...

 

So what is the method of treating scars you recommend the most at the moment? Is there anything that works for you?

 

Thanks!

 



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Posted 27 May 2013 - 03:52 PM

"Getting over them is a good treatment. What also works wonders is not caring about them. I could go on but you get the idea."

 

Hahahahahaha, true:)



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Posted 27 May 2013 - 07:47 PM

acell is not work. the only hope at the day. is the hydrogel.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 04:42 PM

how far are we from finally getting rid of deep acne scarring?



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:43 PM

Nobody from them is gonna give you information or products about how to TRULY regenerate skin.

Trust me,i know what i am talking about here.

You have got to stop thinking like this. Electricity does not heal scars. That dude is a scam artist- and I'm really tired of pricks like him exploiting people like us. Fingertips can regenerate themselves in some cases where the healing environment is good. There were youtube videos showcasing neosporin doing this to severed fingertips. Scars can be removed. I have naturally lost a very big scar on my stomach over time- 20 + years. I removed another scar by using Rentin-A religiously for several years. I am using brown sugar rubs in the shower, and remoisturizing with olive oil massaged into the scars for several minutes after stepping out of the shower (i do this before going to bed) and I'm seeing results from that. I have made some of my scars improve and regrow hair from pieces of castor oil soaked dye free cotton wraps left on them for several days at a time with the only breaks from the oil wrap being when i go out or take a shower . I am also experimenting with crushed aspirin mixed in olive oil slurry applied to scars at bed time covered over with a Band-Aid. I very much would love to try the egg oil, but I have my doubts in. Vav Life Science. I looked up a few of the people involved in the company and they are involved in other companies and that just doesn't gel. Most of the images they posted for oleova website are sourced from other locations - most importantly the cold press machines they claim to use. Those images of the machines are not theirs- they swiped those images for a company that sells them. I found this out by doing Google Upload Image searches. They will however sell you the oil for like $85 for 10 ounces. I might pull the trigger on it, but I'd hate to be duped. I'd much rather sort out a way to create my own oil- that way I know it's what it is, and personally I don't want a protein free version of the oil. Those proteins are probably what makes it work and I'm not allergic to egg proteins. I'm being proactive and trying many things all on my own, because the promises are still in clinical stages, and I'm tired of waiting. There is no illuminati/freemason conspiracy at play here. No one is trying to prevent the cure for scars. The cure for scars reaches far beyond cosmetic applications to aid in better health and survival rates for some patients. If it's found it will come to the people.
 



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 02:24 AM

I am using brown sugar rubs in the shower, and remoisturizing with olive oil massaged into the scars for several minutes after stepping out of the shower (i do this before going to bed) and I'm seeing results from that. I have made some of my scars improve and regrow hair from pieces of castor oil soaked dye free cotton wraps left on them for several days at a time with the only breaks from the oil wrap being when i go out or take a shower .

 

That is very interesting. Care to elucidate? You actually had hairless scar tissue that now grows hair? Terminal or vellus? How sure are you that they weren't there before?



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 03:36 AM

Nobody from them is gonna give you information or products about how to TRULY regenerate skin.

Trust me,i know what i am talking about here.

You have got to stop thinking like this. Electricity does not heal scars. That dude is a scam artist- and I'm really tired of pricks like him exploiting people like us. Fingertips can regenerate themselves in some cases where the healing environment is good. There were youtube videos showcasing neosporin doing this to severed fingertips. Scars can be removed. I have naturally lost a very big scar on my stomach over time- 20 + years. I removed another scar by using Rentin-A religiously for several years. I am using brown sugar rubs in the shower, and remoisturizing with olive oil massaged into the scars for several minutes after stepping out of the shower (i do this before going to bed) and I'm seeing results from that. I have made some of my scars improve and regrow hair from pieces of castor oil soaked dye free cotton wraps left on them for several days at a time with the only breaks from the oil wrap being when i go out or take a shower . I am also experimenting with crushed aspirin mixed in olive oil slurry applied to scars at bed time covered over with a Band-Aid. I very much would love to try the egg oil, but I have my doubts in. Vav Life Science. I looked up a few of the people involved in the company and they are involved in other companies and that just doesn't gel. Most of the images they posted for oleova website are sourced from other locations - most importantly the cold press machines they claim to use. Those images of the machines are not theirs- they swiped those images for a company that sells them. I found this out by doing Google Upload Image searches. They will however sell you the oil for like $85 for 10 ounces. I might pull the trigger on it, but I'd hate to be duped. I'd much rather sort out a way to create my own oil- that way I know it's what it is, and personally I don't want a protein free version of the oil. Those proteins are probably what makes it work and I'm not allergic to egg proteins. I'm being proactive and trying many things all on my own, because the promises are still in clinical stages, and I'm tired of waiting. There is no illuminati/freemason conspiracy at play here. No one is trying to prevent the cure for scars. The cure for scars reaches far beyond cosmetic applications to aid in better health and survival rates for some patients. If it's found it will come to the people.
 

 

First of all thank you for the information.

I am not into conspiracy.  Robert O'Becker is not a scammer for sure.He has worked in labs with 

\salamanders and frogs for many many years.He even managed to regrow a rat(mammal) limb.

Go on and doubt silver iontophoresis benefits.

 

Funny things that you despise electricity ,that is actually one of the the reason why you are healing scars.

Its not the Retin-A.Its the healing properties it induces your body.

Its not the Lugol's .It acts like a magnet for your lifefull healing mechanisms.

Its not the hydrogel.Its the enviroment it makes for angiogenesis etc etc.Electricity comes into first from your nervous 

system.Otherise you wouldnt feel any pain.You wouldnt be a human being.

 

In other words,whatever  you put in your skin acts like a catalyst for the body to heal.

 

The conspiracy is into this degenerative enviroment that we live.Huge amouns of fluoride in water,arsenicum in water,

antibiotics in meats and milk,bromide in everything,iodine deficiency,magnesium deficiency,and i could go on all day long.

 

 

 

How the fuck the body is going to heal scar from internally with all this degenerative system attacking it.

Nobody care for us.I wouldnt put my hopes to the ierarchy(JHU).

But on the other hand,i cant know for sure what going to happen.

 

Btw if you have any methods just put them on other threads to help others.

There is no reason to feel the need to prove something here egoistically.

There are others also to help.

 

I also advice you and others to chek the mini beet protocol from robert von that claims to remove scar tissue between many months to 2 years.

 

Why do you think electricity doesn heal scars.Why rife works?Why scio quantum machine

works? Why zappers work?

I know ,finding the thing that promotes healing is like searching for the foundation of life,for the

philosopher's stone of alchemists.


Edited by panos, 30 May 2013 - 03:45 AM.


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Posted 30 May 2013 - 06:47 AM

 

Nobody from them is gonna give you information or products about how to TRULY regenerate skin.

Trust me,i know what i am talking about here.

You have got to stop thinking like this. Electricity does not heal scars. That dude is a scam artist- and I'm really tired of pricks like him exploiting people like us. Fingertips can regenerate themselves in some cases where the healing environment is good. There were youtube videos showcasing neosporin doing this to severed fingertips. Scars can be removed. I have naturally lost a very big scar on my stomach over time- 20 + years. I removed another scar by using Rentin-A religiously for several years. I am using brown sugar rubs in the shower, and remoisturizing with olive oil massaged into the scars for several minutes after stepping out of the shower (i do this before going to bed) and I'm seeing results from that. I have made some of my scars improve and regrow hair from pieces of castor oil soaked dye free cotton wraps left on them for several days at a time with the only breaks from the oil wrap being when i go out or take a shower . I am also experimenting with crushed aspirin mixed in olive oil slurry applied to scars at bed time covered over with a Band-Aid. I very much would love to try the egg oil, but I have my doubts in. Vav Life Science. I looked up a few of the people involved in the company and they are involved in other companies and that just doesn't gel. Most of the images they posted for oleova website are sourced from other locations - most importantly the cold press machines they claim to use. Those images of the machines are not theirs- they swiped those images for a company that sells them. I found this out by doing Google Upload Image searches. They will however sell you the oil for like $85 for 10 ounces. I might pull the trigger on it, but I'd hate to be duped. I'd much rather sort out a way to create my own oil- that way I know it's what it is, and personally I don't want a protein free version of the oil. Those proteins are probably what makes it work and I'm not allergic to egg proteins. I'm being proactive and trying many things all on my own, because the promises are still in clinical stages, and I'm tired of waiting. There is no illuminati/freemason conspiracy at play here. No one is trying to prevent the cure for scars. The cure for scars reaches far beyond cosmetic applications to aid in better health and survival rates for some patients. If it's found it will come to the people.
 

 

First of all thank you for the information.

I am not into conspiracy.  Robert O'Becker is not a scammer for sure.He has worked in labs with 

\salamanders and frogs for many many years.He even managed to regrow a rat(mammal) limb.

Go on and doubt silver iontophoresis benefits.

 

Funny things that you despise electricity ,that is actually one of the the reason why you are healing scars.

Its not the Retin-A.Its the healing properties it induces your body.

Its not the Lugol's .It acts like a magnet for your lifefull healing mechanisms.

Its not the hydrogel.Its the enviroment it makes for angiogenesis etc etc.Electricity comes into first from your nervous 

system.Otherise you wouldnt feel any pain.You wouldnt be a human being.

 

In other words,whatever  you put in your skin acts like a catalyst for the body to heal.

 

The conspiracy is into this degenerative enviroment that we live.Huge amouns of fluoride in water,arsenicum in water,

antibiotics in meats and milk,bromide in everything,iodine deficiency,magnesium deficiency,and i could go on all day long.

 

 

 

How the fuck the body is going to heal scar from internally with all this degenerative system attacking it.

Nobody care for us.I wouldnt put my hopes to the ierarchy(JHU).

But on the other hand,i cant know for sure what going to happen.

 

Btw if you have any methods just put them on other threads to help others.

There is no reason to feel the need to prove something here egoistically.

There are others also to help.

 

I also advice you and others to chek the mini beet protocol from robert von that claims to remove scar tissue between many months to 2 years.

 

Why do you think electricity doesn heal scars.Why rife works?Why scio quantum machine

works? Why zappers work?

I know ,finding the thing that promotes healing is like searching for the foundation of life,for the

philosopher's stone of alchemists.

Panos is actually right here.  What is the body but energy ? Call it cell energy or electricity , your body has the ability to light up a city. Your body does the work, it just has to be stimulated correctly . Well said Panos. Those who continuously use the term "conspiracy theory" need to open their own eyes and ears and start researching not labeling.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 01:46 AM

Seabs, I like your positive attitude but i've heard the same things back when in 2006-07?? If things were going so well it should have happened by now.

Again, im pretty sure that we may have the technology to heal scar-less already as you said. But the reality is a darker world. If a piece of ECM can regenerate skin as easy as pie then we do not have the need for expensive lasers and cosmetic surgery. How much can a piece of ECM possibly cost even if its marked-up? Maybe hundreds? But lasers costs thousands and they don't fully regenerate our skin and heal our scars, thus suckers will still pay more and more to go back. It is big business. The big companies will prevent such a scarless healing ECM if it does exists.
 
 

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 09:04 AM

Hey A13forever,

Btw my attitude is not positive or negative, this is were you are slightly wrong. (Btw how can I be positive if I see others not expecting what is in front of their faces?) My attitude is pushy though, and pushy for progress but my push attitude is built on reason; and as such my expectations are also pushy for progress, and imo everyone's should be the same. If not, and you get distracted, its like turkeys voting for Christmas (talking and giving attention to things like lasers, talking about the next five years, every year in a rolling manner), and collective progress and the collective expectation will be hindered.

You can only expect what you can perceive. If you don't or cant perceive something you simply don't or cant expect it. If you are conditioned to only expect the Iphone5 you cant expect the Iphone9. This is were me and others here, differ with regards to expectation. Others easily let there expectations get prejudiced, led and conditioned by misinformation on this board, by people using or unintentionally appealing to something distracting, or letting their imaginations run wild. I just stick to the scientific facts and empirical evidence which highlights something clear and testable. My pushy attitude goes on reason using scientific facts, and I expect on reason. I don't let my expectations get prejudiced or conditioned by distractions, imo neither should anyone else.

 

Seabs, I like your positive attitude but i've heard the same things back when in 2006-07?? If things were going so well it should have happened by now.

Again, im pretty sure that we may have the technology to heal scar-less already as you said. But the reality is a darker world. If a piece of ECM can regenerate skin as easy as pie then we do not have the need for expensive lasers and cosmetic surgery. How much can a piece of ECM possibly cost even if its marked-up? Maybe hundreds? But lasers costs thousands and they don't fully regenerate our skin and heal our scars, thus suckers will still pay more and more to go back. It is big business. The big companies will prevent such a scarless healing ECM if it does exists.
 
 


Edited by seabs135, 31 May 2013 - 11:58 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 06:23 PM

then, is there any news? whats going on whit Hydrogel ? since testing began in rats?



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Posted 01 June 2013 - 10:45 PM

It's very sad to see that there is still no progress for scarless healing yet. Our generation is completely fucked. Sorry for the negativity, but it is what it is.



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Posted 02 June 2013 - 07:04 AM

It's very sad to see that there is still no progress for scarless healing yet. Our generation is completely fucked. Sorry for the negativity, but it is what it is.

 

There is empirical and 'scientific evidence' of a material that degrades rapidly and completely regenerates, which was tested against an established control, cited all over the thread...

Do you have learned helplessness?

http://en.wikipedia....igman_and_Maier


Edited by seabs135, 02 June 2013 - 10:11 AM.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 08:57 AM

Here is something out of topic but certainly interesting:
http://www.kurzweila...nsulate-neurons

The current research was done in mice and rats. If the approach also works with human cells, it could eventually lead to cell therapies for diseases like inherited leukodystrophies — disorders of the brain’s white matter — and multiple sclerosis, as well as spinal cord injuries.
...
Previous research in rodent disease models has shown that transplanted oligodendrocyte precursor cells derived from embryonic stem cells and from human fetal brain tissue can successfully create myelin sheaths around nerve cells, sometimes leading to dramatic improvements in symptoms.

Creating OPCs from skin cells directly

“Unfortunately, the availability of human fetal tissue is extremely limited, and the creation of OPCs from embryonic stem cells is slow and tedious,” said the study’s senior author, Marius Wernig, MD, assistant professor of pathology and a member of Stanford’s Institute for Stem Cell Biology and Regenerative Medicine. “It appeared we wouldn’t be able to create enough human OPCs for widespread therapeutic use, so we began to wonder if we could create them directly from skin cells.



My guess is that if we have an experimental technology that is able to repair damaged white matter of the entire nervous system of the mouse (including brain) and thus effectively treat such a terrible and incurable disease such as multiple sclerosis then we shouldn't be so far away from a solution for skin scarring. What do you think about it?

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 09:05 AM

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