Scarless Healing

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Pepo the Curcumin was injected into the wounds. Salves and Oral consumption will not work as effectively. I am researching the hell out of it right now using the keywords "Intraperitoneal Curcumin" Intraperitoneal means Injection based. I think I found a PDF doc that describes the formula. Just like th Bee venom- it raises a new issue. Who would we find to mix it and inject it. Took a very long time to find someone trustworthy for the Saline I plan to self inject to treat some of my scars. The Curcumin issue involves precise mix ratios with other medical grade additives. God only knows if the spice needs to be irritated or boiled to remove any infectious hazards.

I'm at work so I can't reply properly.

I've never said anything about oral intake. It has a very poor bioavailability and only a tiny amount reaches the blood stream, though that tiny amount is still said to be very beneficial for certain illnesses. "most of what we swallow goes directly into our gastrointestinal area and is expelled." Topical applicatioin of anything on existing scars is virtually pointless. I am not talking about oral intake and I'm not talking about applying topical curcumin to existing scars.

What I am talking about is applying curcumin to wounds. Fresh wounds/open wounds. There is no need to inject it. As we know curcumin inhibits fibroblast proliferation, that means if you have a fresh wound (where scar tissues hasn't developed yet) and apply curcumin it will help. The problem is existing scar tissue. The new paper in the international journal of dermatology is done on surgical scars as you have the ability to apply a topical immediately after the wound is closed, before any scar tissue has been made. If you excise your scar and apply topical curcumin it will help. How much? I don't know. It inhibits fibroblast proliferation. I'm hoping causing micro wounds with a needle/dermastamp/roller will have a similar effect as I can't excise my scars myself. You have an unlimited amount of times you can repeat this procedure so maybe it could help.

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Hey guys,

an article about skin printing. I did not know, that this technique is far enough to produce real healthy skin. A citation from the article : " Atala said the researchers already have been able to make "healthy skin." " Sounds interesting. Hope it will give us results soon. Stay tuned, all together.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-19/tech/bioprinting.wounded.soldiers_1_inkjet-printers-cells-skin/2?_s=PM:TECH

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Hey guys,

an article about skin printing. I did not know, that this technique is far enough to produce real healthy skin. A citation from the article : " Atala said the researchers already have been able to make "healthy skin." " Sounds interesting. Hope it will give us results soon. Stay tuned, all together.

http://articles.cnn....in/2?_s=PM:TECH

Neo

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may take another five years of development

always the same few years scenario. When will scarless healing really happen?

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When will there

be something that really helps?

That's what millions of people wanna know. I dunno... So many DECADES people have been hearing of the possiblity of scarless healing and still it isn't here. Seabs posted this article once which was from 1928? or it was even older which spoke of scarless healing. So you could think it's kind of against one's better judgment to think that WE WILL see scarless healing in our lifetime contrary to all those people in the last decades and decades and decades and decades, one could say. But.......like Jerry Cooley said what we're seeing now are the first fruits of the hard work and all the research that has been done in the field of regenerative medicine over all these years. That's the current time. So.......I'm still hopeful. Like I said many times, the thing I'm most excited about is decorin which is coming. When it will be here, I don't know but... I'm sure we'll see it when we're still (kinda) young. That is if it doesn't fail. But I have a good feeling about it. I kinda repeated myself here and all of this you already know but I just thought I'd come on here and ramble a bit. lol =]

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Why? I mean even if you had medication which has it...what are you going to do? Plus decorin not being the only component makes it kind of useless too, I think. I really think there's nothing we can do except wait until it comes out. Unless anyone here is multi-multi-multi-multi-millionaire and is willing to invest that money into a running development plan for decorin of some other potentially helpful drug. ;)

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Why? I mean even if you had medication which has it...what are you going to do? Plus decorin not being the only component makes it kind of useless too, I think. I really think there's nothing we can do except wait until it comes out. Unless anyone here is multi-multi-multi-multi-millionaire and is willing to invest that money into a running development plan for decorin of some other potentially helpful drug. wink.png

car-decorin is not or in testing phase, so that product goes on sale sure will spend 30 years, and there are no other things to the view. We cannot expect that these products goes on sale that we would be too old already.

We have no time must experience for ourselves. the question is that.

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Decorin is the answer?

It might be. Some people who appear to be genuinely knowledgeable say they believe decorin will in fact do the trick. Time will tell, I guess.

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Ive come across a couple surgeons who are currently using stem cells for procedures. They ofcourse arent promising 100% improvement, but it sounds like the results are a huge improvement... and who knows how long we'll be waiting around for the cure, so I'll take the best I can get. Ive been looking around to fix up my stretch marks, which are in the same catagory as scars, and lots of you seem to know alot more on this topic than I do, so I thought Id get some opinions from you.

http://austinaesthetics.com/stretch-marks-scar-removal

http://www.nathannewmanmd.com/

Its atleast a start at getting stem cells into surgical centers, etc.

There is also a clinic in Ukraine called Emcell. It is the worlds largest fetal stem cell transplant center. For the most part it looks like they deal with diseases, etc. But there is an area on the website for anti-aging purposes, so it appears he also does cosmetic procedures.

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Here's a pic of wounds treated with RGTA (that's a synthetic extracellular matrix approach) in a pre-clinical study:

RGTA.png

It's not something that makes you go "Whoa, that's AMAZING!" but it's the first pic I've seen of RGTA used specifically for scar prevention so I thought I'd post it. I saw it on their website:

http://www.otr3.com/otr3aout11/index.php?lang=en

I don't have that much time right now but next time I'll check out your posts, PapayaWhip! :)

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http://www.ocregister.com/news/spinal-324725-stem-cord.html

This sounds to good to be true.

I will quote the most interesting part:

"A. I'm working on two new projects, and I'm really excited about them. Both are on chronic (long term) spinal-cord injuries. One involves getting rid of the scar that forms after an injury. If you get rid of the scar, that would make an old injury a young injury again. Therefore, you could apply all these new technologies that are emerging to treat acute (short term) spinal cord injury.

It looks like we've been able to do it in a dish. We've grown spinal cord cells in a dish, we've made them become scarred, and we're able to reverse that scar in a dish. Now we move on to rats.

One thing that is very interesting: if it's successful, this treatment also could be amenable to treatment of multiple sclerosis, which is a brain auto-immune disease, where one's own immune system attacks the brain, and causes scarring. We would use the same approach to reverse the scarring, remove the scarring. This is one of the greatest challenges in central nervous system regeneration research. No one has been able to come close to doing it. It remains untouched."

They reversed scars in the dish. Well. If this is possible scars should be something of the past. I hopethat more treatments will be on the horizon, which heal the characteristics of scars.

Neo

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Third degree burns healed "scar free"

In third-degree burn treatment, hydrogel helps grow new, scar-free skin

After 21 days, the gel has been harmlessly absorbed, and the tissue continues to return to the appearance of normal skin.

http://www.eurekaler...u-itb121311.php

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Third degree burns healed "scar free"

In third-degree burn treatment, hydrogel helps grow new, scar-free skin

After 21 days, the gel has been harmlessly absorbed, and the tissue continues to return to the appearance of normal skin.

http://www.eurekaler...u-itb121311.php

Yeah, the scarless healing thread is BACK!

And this sounds great. So maybe another 4 years and 3000 posts in this thread later, this stuff will be on the market :D

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Third degree burns healed "scar free"

In third-degree burn treatment, hydrogel helps grow new, scar-free skin

After 21 days, the gel has been harmlessly absorbed, and the tissue continues to return to the appearance of normal skin.

http://www.eurekaler...u-itb121311.php

Yeah, the scarless healing thread is BACK!

And this sounds great. So maybe another 4 years and 3000 posts in this thread later, this stuff will be on the market biggrin.png

LOL.

BTW that was scar free, not scarless, this stuff is scar free... I dont highlight scarless.

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Third degree burns healed "scar free"

In third-degree burn treatment, hydrogel helps grow new, scar-free skin

After 21 days, the gel has been harmlessly absorbed, and the tissue continues to return to the appearance of normal skin.

http://www.eurekaler...u-itb121311.php

Interesting article. I'll have to read that more carefully later.

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Well that gel seems quite cool. Dextran, eh? More saccharides to the rescue. lol One thing though...they are testing on animals, right? Well I read on Wikipedia about it not reliably predicting effects in humans according to some. Didn't Renovo, whilst testing on pigs, get results which weren't seen when they tested in humans? I might be remembering wrongly but... Anyway, I'm not getting my hopes up just yet. I wonder how they define "a few years". It's cool though. I mean if this thing can do the trick... We'll see... We'll see.

Thanks for posting that, Seabs.

Third degree burns healed "scar free"

In third-degree burn treatment, hydrogel helps grow new, scar-free skin

After 21 days, the gel has been harmlessly absorbed, and the tissue continues to return to the appearance of normal skin.

http://www.eurekaler...u-itb121311.php

Yeah, the scarless healing thread is BACK!

And this sounds great. So maybe another 4 years and 3000 posts in this thread later, this stuff will be on the market biggrin.png

LOL.

BTW that was scar free, not scarless, this stuff is scar free... I dont highlight scarless.

Free of scars sounds nice. ^_^

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I wonder how they define "a few years".

I think as it has no artificial chemicals, It would be tested as a device instead of a drug. I'm sure devices need less time to be approved.

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