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Hi just wondering if anyone has experienced a bad breakout after having fraxel treatment. This always happens to me after each treatment. Its like pustules of some sort and they can be a bit sore. I am on antibiotics to control acne whilst having fraxel, so i dont know why im breaking out so bad. It usually appears the day after treatment but clears up a few days later.

Does anyone else experience this? :think:

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Hi just wondering if anyone has experienced a bad breakout after having fraxel treatment. This always happens to me after each treatment. Its like pustules of some sort and they can be a bit sore. I am on antibiotics to control acne whilst having fraxel, so i dont know why im breaking out so bad. It usually appears the day after treatment but clears up a few days later.

Does anyone else experience this? :think:


Age 27, Male, Type III/IV skin (Asian)

Scarring

Most scars <1 year old

Left cheek: several small ice picks/enlarged pores, 3 superficial rolling scars on cheek, several shallow boxcars below temples

Right cheek: no signficant scarring, only a few superficial scarred pores

1st Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

Mar 2, 2007

Left cheek:

MJ 40

Treatment Level 6

8 passes

Right cheek:

MJ 20

Treatment Level 6

8 passes

2nd Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

May 4, 2007

Both cheeks:

MJ 35

Treatment Level 8

6 passes

3rd Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

June 1, 2007

Both cheeks:

MJ 30

Treatment Level 8

6 passes

4th Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

June 29, 2007

Both cheeks:

MJ 35

Treatment Level 8

6 passes

5th Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

August 10, 2007

Both cheeks:

MJ 30

Treatment Level 8

6 passes

6th Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

August 31, 2007

Both cheeks:

MJ 30

Treatment Level 8

6 passes


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Yes, this seems to be pretty normal for those of us who had agressive treatments. I would get white heads the day after a treatment but they would go away pretty easily. I do still have breakouts over a month after my last treatment :( but these are tiny little white heads and some are just red bumps. Frustrating.


Fraxel 2 Full Face 1st treatment

1st Oct 10, 2006

MJ 40

8 passes

Fraxel 2 Full Face 2nd treatment

Nov9th 2006

Treatment Level 8

8 Passes

KJ 3.52

Energy Fluency (MJ) 40

Density 424

Fraxel 2 Full Face 3rd treatment

Dec 6th, 06

Treatment Level 10

8 to 10 passes

KJ: 3.17

Energy Fluence 40

Fraxel 2 full Face 4th treatment

Jan 3rd, 07

Treatment Level 10

MJ 40

Passes 8

KJ 2.79

Fraxel2 Full face 5th treatment

Jan 24, 07

MJ 40 with a few lower settings

Treatment Level- R1

Density 600

10+ passes

KJ- 3.74


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Loanstar,

I have experienced major breakouts from Fraxel, but now I have it under control with an antibiotic. I will continue taking it all the way through my series of treatments. I get my Fraxels four weeks apart and I am staying on the therapeutic level the entire time-even in between treatments.

I was not on the prescription until my third Fraxel. I wish my doctor would have suggested it from the beginning even as a precaution. Hope this helps.

Good luck,

Annde


December 20, 2006-1st treatment

15 MJs full face, 16 MJs on scars

Density 125

Subcision on scars

January 5, 2007-2nd treatment

17 MJs full face, 18 MJs on scars

Density 125

February 2, 2007-3rd treatment

17 MJs full face, 20 MJs on scars

Density 125

Subcision on scars

March 2, 2007-4th treatment

14-17 MJs full face, 20 MJs on scars

Density 125

Subcision on scars

March 30, 2007- 5th treatment

18 MJs full face, 20 MJs on scars

Density 125

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Hey, I've had 6 fraxel treatments and have had breakout throughout most of them, small milia and or red spots. I used an anti biotic which helped but not entirely, but then last week I started having terrible pains in my chest, which was acid reflux, a side effect of doxycycline and had to stop taking it. I'm not sure if all the cyclines have this side effect but my sister also experienced this, which was how I knew. But I am scheduled to have another treatment tommorow, and I have a lot of milia and irritated red spots. It's as bad a it has been since I started treatment. I don't really know what to do. Can I still have the treatment even if it is like that? They aren't cysts and I have continued treatments when I was still having these breakouts before but not his bad. Also, are there other anitbiotics I could take besides mino, tetra and doxy?


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Hey thanks for all the comments. At least i know im not on my own. Yeah as unhappenstance said it seems to be small milia outbreaks, not acne in my case. My cheeks and jawline (affected areas from fraxel) where covered in lots of them. Just the fact there were so many of them made it quite sore. Glad some of use experienced the same because i was worried it was a bad infection of some sort.

Cheers Ann for the comment ...yeah i guess its safer to be on antibiotics while on fraxel.

Unhappenstance i think u should ask your derm who gives the fraxel what he/she thinks of your outbreak. As long as its not cystic i would assume they could still maybe give u the treatment or possibly work around the irritated spots and milia. Good luck anyways!

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Hey thanks for all the comments. At least i know im not on my own. Yeah as unhappenstance said it seems to be small milia outbreaks, not acne in my case. My cheeks and jawline (affected areas from fraxel) where covered in lots of them. Just the fact there were so many of them made it quite sore. Glad some of use experienced the same because i was worried it was a bad infection of some sort.

Cheers Ann for the comment ...yeah i guess its safer to be on antibiotics while on fraxel.

Unhappenstance i think u should ask your derm who gives the fraxel what he/she thinks of your outbreak. As long as its not cystic i would assume they could still maybe give u the treatment or possibly work around the irritated spots and milia. Good luck anyways!

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Since being off the anitbiotic I have been trying to use some face wash to help breakouts, which after the first time surprisingly helped to clear up a lot of the milia, so I started using it regularly but after I'd get done, my skin looked irritated, which was the case with another face wash I used and also if I let the water in the shower hit my face for too long. So I kept using it because although my skin looked irritated it seemed that the milia was continuing to go away. After about 5 days of use (I was applying moisturiser as well like I normally do btw) the irritation was increasing and milia staying the same. So I quit, yesterday, and since then irritation has almost dissipated and milia is doiong better, but not really gone. SO, I might conclude that washing like once a week may be benificial but regularly does more harm than good. I am pretty sure by tommorow if things continue as they are I should be able to have the treatment, just in my opinion, but I really need to talk to my derm about a new antibiotic.


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I had my first Fraxel SR1500 done yesterday, and it has induced small milia on my chin and parts of my jaw area.

Prior to Fraxel, my chin had very nice skin (small pores, no acne scars). The rest of my face is just very burnt looking and brown. My forehead in particular is covered with pixelated burns, which is sorta interesting but I just hope I peel soon.

To prevent acne breakouts and to help my skin heal, I'm taking a bunch of supplements: vitamin C, fish oil, Murad Youth Builder (multivitamin that hopefully helps with the collagen), Accunaturals (multivitamin that contains acne bacteria-killing berberine, an alkaloid used in traditional Asian medicine), and goldenseal (a source of berberine). I'm also eating lots of fruits, fish and gobo root (aka burdock) which also contains berberine.

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I'm also using the Natragel mask, Bionect (a topical for burns), and two other, moisturizing post-laser topicals my derm's office sells under their name.

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The many milia on my chin have gotten bigger, creating a toady texture on my chin. I've also developed a few milia on my forehead as well.

Since I'd rather not take an antibiotic (I've taken most of them before), my dr's office has suggested I do a SilkPeel and a Smoothbeam next week, at least a week after my Fraxel, to keep the breakout under control and to slough off dead skin.

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The many milia on my chin have gotten bigger, creating a toady texture on my chin. I've also developed a few milia on my forehead as well.

Since I'd rather not take an antibiotic (I've taken most of them before), my dr's office has suggested I do a SilkPeel and a Smoothbeam next week, at least a week after my Fraxel, to keep the breakout under control and to slough off dead skin.


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The many milia on my chin have gotten bigger, creating a toady texture on my chin. I've also developed a few milia on my forehead as well.

Since I'd rather not take an antibiotic (I've taken most of them before), my dr's office has suggested I do a SilkPeel and a Smoothbeam next week, at least a week after my Fraxel, to keep the breakout under control and to slough off dead skin.

I cannot stand these breakouts and I am on antibiotics. How long do you think is appropriate to have a peel done. I have had one done before but that was over a month after my treatment.

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The many milia on my chin have gotten bigger, creating a toady texture on my chin. I've also developed a few milia on my forehead as well.

Since I'd rather not take an antibiotic (I've taken most of them before), my dr's office has suggested I do a SilkPeel and a Smoothbeam next week, at least a week after my Fraxel, to keep the breakout under control and to slough off dead skin.

I cannot stand these breakouts and I am on antibiotics. How long do you think is appropriate to have a peel done. I have had one done before but that was over a month after my treatment.


Fraxel 2 Full Face 1st treatment

1st Oct 10, 2006

MJ 40

8 passes

Fraxel 2 Full Face 2nd treatment

Nov9th 2006

Treatment Level 8

8 Passes

KJ 3.52

Energy Fluency (MJ) 40

Density 424

Fraxel 2 Full Face 3rd treatment

Dec 6th, 06

Treatment Level 10

8 to 10 passes

KJ: 3.17

Energy Fluence 40

Fraxel 2 full Face 4th treatment

Jan 3rd, 07

Treatment Level 10

MJ 40

Passes 8

KJ 2.79

Fraxel2 Full face 5th treatment

Jan 24, 07

MJ 40 with a few lower settings

Treatment Level- R1

Density 600

10+ passes

KJ- 3.74


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yeah I hear that. I was just thinking of other ways and thought about using B5. I know there can be side effect like hair loss and such but I have never used it. Since it decreases the amount of oil your skin produces does that mean it would not be a good idea to use during scar treatments?


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btw, 3 days prior to my Fraxel, I had a SilkPeel, but the dr said 2 days prior is ideal.

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How use all getting on anyway with fraxel. Are use seeing any improvements? Ive had three treatments so far, and at the minute cant see any big difference, but im gonna try get at least five treatments and judge it after that. Im hoping to get some kind of results from it. :pray:

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Anybody know if we could use blue light or red light therapy pre- or post-Fraxel?

Here's a blue/red/violet light pen that helps prevent and treat breakouts:

http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp...983&tab=1#1


Fraxel 2 Full Face 1st treatment

1st Oct 10, 2006

MJ 40

8 passes

Fraxel 2 Full Face 2nd treatment

Nov9th 2006

Treatment Level 8

8 Passes

KJ 3.52

Energy Fluency (MJ) 40

Density 424

Fraxel 2 Full Face 3rd treatment

Dec 6th, 06

Treatment Level 10

8 to 10 passes

KJ: 3.17

Energy Fluence 40

Fraxel 2 full Face 4th treatment

Jan 3rd, 07

Treatment Level 10

MJ 40

Passes 8

KJ 2.79

Fraxel2 Full face 5th treatment

Jan 24, 07

MJ 40 with a few lower settings

Treatment Level- R1

Density 600

10+ passes

KJ- 3.74


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hey, I bought some b5 and started using it yesterday and I can already tell a difference I took 3 gs yesterday and 4gs today and pretty much all the milia have dried up. Also though I went from 200 mg of minocyline to 300 mg so maybe that has helped too. I am very happy that this is working though, just hope that it continues to help because I am not able to enjoy the improvements in my skin with dadblasted milia all over the freakin place ya know. So, I will cross my fingers that this continues to work.


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You can buy fresh gobo (burdock) root at an Asian market, scrape off the skin (I use the back of a knife), cut it up, and boil it for 20-30 minutes. It's not very tasty as a tea, but very delicious sauteed.

The smell of fresh gobo root is medicinal, and frankly gobo has mild laxative properties, besides its antibacterial and antifungal properties.

I'm not very good about eating/drinking gobo every day, bc I get tired of eating the same thing daily, but I do think it helps my skin. I notice my skin breaks out after eating things like cakes and pastries, many of which I ate in the days before my Fraxel.

Normally I chop it up, sautee it in soy sauce with garlic and red pepper. However, my friend's aunt told me drinking gobo is better. If I can't drink it straight, she recommended I drop pieces of gobo in soups, e.g. chicken soup.

If you can't find it fresh, I don't recommend burdock supplements (which I did), as you really don't know how pure the formula is.

Since gobo also lowers blood sugar, I think that's why it helps me, as I believe my mild acne is a manifestation of "skin diabetes" from eating things with flour, sugar, and dairy.

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thanks for the info, I think I might like to try adding gobo to my diet especially when cooking stuff, which I like to do because it keeps my mind off my skin.


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A few days ago I had my 2nd Fraxel, and I have MUCH less milia on my chin and jaws, as well as very little swelling (which I attribute to Sinecch and more fish oil omega-3, which reduces systemic inflammation).

The fewer milia is partly due to increasing my fish oil supplements from 1800 mg EPA + DHA daily (1st Fraxel) to 3000 mg daily (2nd Fraxel). I didn't ask, but I think it's safe to take fish oil.

The weekend before the Fraxel I purchased green tea extract supplements, and have been taking 4 a day (1880 mg).

Also, I recently started drinking two cups of green tea, made from the pricier, but more concentrated powder, as I hoped the green tea's antibacterial and blood sugar regulating properties might help prevent milia.

This time around I much fewer sweets, as last time I had been eating lots of sugar-laden cakes due to all the March birthdays. On the evening of my 2nd Fraxel, I did have a red velvet cake a friend had brought.

As for the burdock root (gobo), I ate a lot of it last week, but then ran out of it, and haven't been able to go to the store. I've been eating trying to eat healthier, e.g. a lot of veggie-chicken-tofu soup and sauteed lotus root (another rec from my friend's Chinese medicine-studying aunt).

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