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April 28 update: If you decide you want to use green tea and fish oil for results strictly for acne, it may be best to do either one or the other as they may interfere with each other. Here is my reasoning:

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...t&p=1820686

Everything listed in terms of how green tea works is true in this thread (to the best of my knowledge) based upon the links found.

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Get the 'NOW' brand! I cannot account for the results, or the lack of, you get with any other brand, including safety concerns.

As far as brand, I decided to order some, and I decided on these:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/gtea.htm

The NOW brand, which has 400 mg of green tea extact in each capsule, which is higher than average, and it's only $6, with two day shipping. The extraction process is not chemical based, which means it's safe, unlike other brands which you cannot be sure of!


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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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Here's a great article that lists every study to back up what it says. You can find the studies on google.

I learned some new stuff from it:

http://www.ironmagazine.com/review50.html

Health benefits:

1. Green tea phytonutrients work together. EGCG alone is not as effective.

2. L-theanine along with caffeine is why green tea gives you an alert relaxation, whereas coffee makes you alert and nervous.

3. The little caffeine within green tea is partly responsible for green tea's anti-mutagenic effect.

4. Green tea inhibits lipogenesis, ie the creation of body fat.

5. Green tea is strongly thermogenic. Ie great for body composition (fat loss, maintain muscle). The thermogenic effects are well beyond what the caffeine can do.

6. The thermogenic effect does not increase heart rate.

7. Anti cancer stuff. Too lazy to read.

8. EGCG is a very powerful antioxidant. If the oxidation theory of aging is true, green tea and resveratrol together are a potent life extension tool.

9. Green tea increases HDL and decreases LDL.

Neutral/Health concerns

1. The anti-DHT studies are not conclusive. Some say that it decreases it. Some say that it increases androgens. Another says that green tea decreases DHT when combined with soy (more than soy alone), but without soy it increases it.

2. May inhibit dietary fat digestion, and some minerals slightly.

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^ Great article!

I like this part as well

Green tea has become well known for its antioxidant, antimutagenic and anticarcinogenic effects. Other possible benefits include treatment of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, dermatological problems, obesity, and oral health problems


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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I am gonna buy some tomorrow and I will let you know about the results...

It seems to have so many benefits with very little, to no side effects. It seems like no brainer to me...

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Congratulations! Your order has been successfully placed. We will rush to fill your order as quickly as possible!

An order notification has been sent to your e-mail address.

Your order will be processed right away and you will receive a shipping confirmation by email.

THANK YOU for choosing Bodybuilding.com.

When it said quantity, I changed it to "2", but it kept automatically changing it to 1 :-(

Oh well. How long did delivery take for you xxndnromeoxx? (And thank's for the private message earlier)


Thanks for all the answers, I guess breathing is more important than acne............!

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how much do you have to take?

I just take 2 pills a day :) One morning, and afternoon.


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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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Congratulations! Your order has been successfully placed. We will rush to fill your order as quickly as possible!

An order notification has been sent to your e-mail address.

Your order will be processed right away and you will receive a shipping confirmation by email.

THANK YOU for choosing Bodybuilding.com.

When it said quantity, I changed it to "2", but it kept automatically changing it to 1 :-(

Oh well. How long did delivery take for you xxndnromeoxx? (And thank's for the private message earlier)

That's strange, I tried it just now. I entered two and pushed update cart =)

It took 2 days exactly for me. They generally take 2 to 3 days, as said. So since tomorrow is sunday which they don't ship, it may be there by tuesday


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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Congratulations! Your order has been successfully placed. We will rush to fill your order as quickly as possible!

An order notification has been sent to your e-mail address.

Your order will be processed right away and you will receive a shipping confirmation by email.

THANK YOU for choosing Bodybuilding.com.

When it said quantity, I changed it to "2", but it kept automatically changing it to 1 :-(

Oh well. How long did delivery take for you xxndnromeoxx? (And thank's for the private message earlier)

That's strange, I tried it just now. I entered two and pushed update cart =)

It took 2 days exactly for me. They generally take 2 to 3 days, as said. So since tomorrow is sunday which they don't ship, it may be there by tuesday

Ok cool, thanks :)

So how are taking 2 pills going? Is that what you reccomend?


Thanks for all the answers, I guess breathing is more important than acne............!

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Congratulations! Your order has been successfully placed. We will rush to fill your order as quickly as possible!

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Your order will be processed right away and you will receive a shipping confirmation by email.

THANK YOU for choosing Bodybuilding.com.

When it said quantity, I changed it to "2", but it kept automatically changing it to 1 :-(

Oh well. How long did delivery take for you xxndnromeoxx? (And thank's for the private message earlier)

That's strange, I tried it just now. I entered two and pushed update cart =)

It took 2 days exactly for me. They generally take 2 to 3 days, as said. So since tomorrow is sunday which they don't ship, it may be there by tuesday

Ok cool, thanks :)

So how are taking 2 pills going? Is that what you reccomend?

Correct, it is what is recommended.

This is my diet. I usually take it with an apple, it seems to work pretty well, it doesn't make stomach grumble either :) But taken without food I can feel it grumble.

So far it's a bit too soon to tell, but I have great faith, as I've seen with others who have tried it so far.

I hope these two really work well synergetically, it would be very nice


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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i think I'm going to go buy some from gnc tomorrow not only to hopefully maintain the results i got from accutane, but also because they seem like they are really good for you anyway.


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i think I'm going to go buy some from gnc tomorrow not only to hopefully maintain the results i got from accutane, but also because they seem like they are really good for you anyway.

Very true, I analyzed the japanese and derived this and the fish oil out of interest as well. They both rely heavily on raw fish, and green tea. It is no wonder they live so long and stay so healthy!

I really hope accutane's benefits continue on forever and that eventually you won't have to go on it like some people do. I don't understand one thing, how come some people have to go on it multiple times, and some people get cured by going on it once?


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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So you're saying that this stuff is better than the veggie pills/powder?

It's always possible to find a nice looking list of health benefits practically for anything that's edible.

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i think I'm going to go buy some from gnc tomorrow not only to hopefully maintain the results i got from accutane, but also because they seem like they are really good for you anyway.

Very true, I analyzed the japanese and derived this and the fish oil out of interest as well. They both rely heavily on raw fish, and green tea. It is no wonder they live so long and stay so healthy!

I really hope accutane's benefits continue on forever and that eventually you won't have to go on it like some people do. I don't understand one thing, how come some people have to go on it multiple times, and some people get cured by going on it once?

i don't know, i guess not everyones body reacts the same way to it. it isn't a "sure cure", some people need more than one course. but for a little more than half the people who take it once their acne is cured for good. i hope my acne doesn't come back but if it does i'll go back on accutane. there is a much higher permanent cure rate for people who go on it a second time. of the three people i know who have taken accutane (years ago) the acne hasn't come back for 2 of them. the other one got acne again but it is much more mild than it was before accutane.


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So you're saying that this stuff is better than the veggie pills/powder?

It's always possible to find a nice looking list of health benefits practically for anything that's edible.

Nope, they are not comparable. Veggie pills are the equivalent of multivitams for the nutrients involved in vegetables. They are simply a supplement to substitute or supplement your vegetable intake to do what vegetables usually do. I take it and v8 because I don't make salads daily.

Correct, it is always easy to find a nice list. But from the science involved and the direct content of what it is, it's seems that it has been proven.

But all of it is just talk, we'll see what results come from it. If nothing, I will move on, much like I have done with many other systems here.

But so far, so good. I was inspired by the guy who had impressive results as well as what I found from articles Like so:

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20...xtract-arteries

Hopefully it's actually useful in practical situations, but I do know that the benefits are there, if not for acne, then as it's main function: as a great anti-oxidant for general health etc.

:dance:

If all I get out of this is better health, I won't say I'll regret it either. But who knows, we'll let time tell.


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

Finally Clear! < Click link for regimen

People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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i think I'm going to go buy some from gnc tomorrow not only to hopefully maintain the results i got from accutane, but also because they seem like they are really good for you anyway.

Very true, I analyzed the japanese and derived this and the fish oil out of interest as well. They both rely heavily on raw fish, and green tea. It is no wonder they live so long and stay so healthy!

I really hope accutane's benefits continue on forever and that eventually you won't have to go on it like some people do. I don't understand one thing, how come some people have to go on it multiple times, and some people get cured by going on it once?

i don't know, i guess not everyones body reacts the same way to it. it isn't a "sure cure", some people need more than one course. but for a little more than half the people who take it once their acne is cured for good. i hope my acne doesn't come back but if it does i'll go back on accutane. there is a much higher permanent cure rate for people who go on it a second time. of the three people i know who have taken accutane (years ago) the acne hasn't come back for 2 of them. the other one got acne again but it is much more mild than it was before accutane.

That seems very promising. I am happy for your friends who have found success with it, must be an amazing feeling. I am sure you will stay clear as well. It's interesting how it usually takes the second does and how it doesn't come back. Wow, science has really come such a long way. Hopefully soon, they may make an over the counter type safer version where anyone can try it, hopefully without all the side effects.


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

Finally Clear! < Click link for regimen

People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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can anybody admit that solely these pills CURED their acne?

No, nothing is the sole cure for acne, it is the combination of multiple areas such as diet, water, supplemental intake, and proper facial care that leads to a "cure". This is just a part of the whole. But something worth taking, in my opinion, in combination with fish oil. Read why, it's pretty straight forward to note the benefits if you wish to know what the potential is. :)

Also, take a look:

http://www.google.com/search?q=green+tea+e...lient=firefox-a

You may find some things of interest in relation to acne, in addition to what is stated above.

Essentially, improving and regulating the functioning of the human body is what leads to a "cure"


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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So you're saying that this stuff is better than the veggie pills/powder?

It's always possible to find a nice looking list of health benefits practically for anything that's edible.

Besides resveratrol, I can't think of a single substance with so many health benefits. DHA/EPA? Spinach?

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Here's another webpage on green tea:

http://whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=146

It's much messier. It looks like the original site design was low res, and didn't intend for there to be so many health benefits for a single food.

Anyway, as with the other article, you can look at the references in the bottom, and type them into google and a pubmed or similar study will pop up.

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It's such a coincidence. My mother just called, she said come downstairs there's this show on talking about epa/dha/green tea. It was a home shopping network listing about vitamins. I know it's a marketing point he has, but he was telling us how reservatrol (sp?), egcg (from green tea extract), co10, and epa/dha (from fish oil) was the most vital supplementation your body needs to normalize irregular functioning, yet optimize your body in many many ways.

So this may not be a "cure" but it sure will improve your entire body and keep you young, youthful, and all that lovely good stuff <3

haha =)

I feel really happy right now!


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

Finally Clear! < Click link for regimen

People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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Here's another webpage on green tea:

http://whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=146

It's much messier. It looks like the original site design was low res, and didn't intend for there to be so many health benefits for a single food.

Anyway, as with the other article, you can look at the references in the bottom, and type them into google and a pubmed or similar study will pop up.

Great article!

I have a question, what's your food intake regimen like along with supplementation?


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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Ideally, I eat meat, dairy, fruits, veggies, and nuts. I drink water, green tea, white tea. However, that's usually only the case when I'm at my apartment. When I'm out working or with friends, I have less options.

A lot of people here probably disagree with my take on: Meat, dairy, and low carb. I essentially eat low carb in that I only get carbs from fruits and veggies. Occasionally I'll have a thin crust pizza, or tacos (I buy high oat fiber tortillas), and spaghetti (barilla plus). As for meat and dairy, science has demonstrated too many health benefits outside of acne for me to stop eating them, the biggest one being body composition.

My diet has some influence from John Berardi's nutrition articles.

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It's such a coincidence. My mother just called, she said come downstairs there's this show on talking about epa/dha/green tea. It was a home shopping network listing about vitamins. I know it's a marketing point he has, but he was telling us how reservatrol (sp?), egcg (from green tea extract), co10, and epa/dha (from fish oil) was the most vital supplementation your body needs to normalize irregular functioning, yet optimize your body in many many ways.

So this may not be a "cure" but it sure will improve your entire body and keep you young, youthful, and all that lovely good stuff <3

haha =)

I feel really happy right now!

I'm surprised. Usually these people are scamming people with calcium pills or some sort of fiber pill that magically drops 50 lbs of fecal matter. But that sales guy speaks the truth

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