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Posted 26 February 2007 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE(Shan21 @ Feb 26 2007, 09:59 AM) View Post
QUOTE(xxndnromeoxx @ Feb 26 2007, 03:48 PM) View Post
I found something that hit it right on the head
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* Transport oxygen from red blood cells to the tissues
* Promote brain development
* Keep saturated fats mobile in the blood stream
* Are an anti-inflammatory (rheumatoid arthritis, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease)
* Regulate pressure in the eye, joints, and blood vessels, and mediating immune response
* Regulate bodily secretions and their viscosity
* Dilate or constricting blood vessels
* Regulate collateral circulation
* Reduces blood pressure / Dilates blood vessels
* Regulate cell division rate
* Maintain the fluidity and rigidity of cellular membranes
* Regulate the inflow and outflow of substances to and from cells
* Direct endocrine hormones to their target cells
* Maintain proper kidney function and fluid balance
* Prevent blood cells from clumping together (blood clots that can be a cause of heart attack and stroke)
* Regulate smooth muscles and autonomic reflexes
* Regulate nerve transmission and communication
* Support cardiovascular health


http://www.bodybuild...com/fun/efa.htm

No wonder my oil production has lessened, and is already less thick. Awesome!!

lesson for the day, everyone needs efa's, no matter what




Cheers for that it's an interesting website and very helpful as i learn how my body works and what it needs. It may sound strange but i am finally after 9 depressing years of Acne enjoying the challange of beating it and am seeing results at last. This website is great wish i had found it a few years ago



yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

one of my theorys was that acne comedos are basically your body trying to expel bad fats so you wont have a heart attack and thats all acne may be, the coagulant fats clog up your sebaceous glands forming a comedo or plug where bacteria can thrive and cause inflammation.

and that by changing the composition of your dietary fats o6/o3 would also change the composition(or viscosity) of your sebum actually making it flow smoother.

also dietary fats affect proliferation of cells.

so much more to this so read all the fish oil threads.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 04:28 PM

QUOTE(Shan21 @ Feb 26 2007, 09:59 AM) View Post
QUOTE(xxndnromeoxx @ Feb 26 2007, 03:48 PM) View Post
I found something that hit it right on the head
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* Transport oxygen from red blood cells to the tissues
* Promote brain development
* Keep saturated fats mobile in the blood stream
* Are an anti-inflammatory (rheumatoid arthritis, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease)
* Regulate pressure in the eye, joints, and blood vessels, and mediating immune response
* Regulate bodily secretions and their viscosity
* Dilate or constricting blood vessels
* Regulate collateral circulation
* Reduces blood pressure / Dilates blood vessels
* Regulate cell division rate
* Maintain the fluidity and rigidity of cellular membranes
* Regulate the inflow and outflow of substances to and from cells
* Direct endocrine hormones to their target cells
* Maintain proper kidney function and fluid balance
* Prevent blood cells from clumping together (blood clots that can be a cause of heart attack and stroke)
* Regulate smooth muscles and autonomic reflexes
* Regulate nerve transmission and communication
* Support cardiovascular health


http://www.bodybuild...com/fun/efa.htm

No wonder my oil production has lessened, and is already less thick. Awesome!!

lesson for the day, everyone needs efa's, no matter what




Cheers for that it's an interesting website and very helpful as i learn how my body works and what it needs. It may sound strange but i am finally after 9 depressing years of Acne enjoying the challange of beating it and am seeing results at last. This website is great wish i had found it a few years ago


Bless! I am happy it's working, I too am seeing final results, as if it's about time I can control myself. At least together we all make a difference.


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Posted 26 February 2007 - 04:29 PM

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Ayla, thank you for the site! I've bookmarked it, perfect smile.gif



AutonomousOne198... gave it to me, I'd actually been there before, but only for calorie listings. It had never even occured to me to check o3/6's there! Post what kind of a ratio your daily diet is at. Mine was 1:8, 3/6 respectively. (man that's bad!)



I'll post it when I get it tallied smile.gif 1:8 is still a bit high, but MUCH better than 1:20 to 1:50 most people have smile.gif Which is why I suppose we see improvement?

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 06:09 PM

1:50! omg! That's amazingly off, there has got to be something to this. I've only been taking them 1:1 for two days now, but I just SO feel that we are on to something here! Everything makes sense. Everything else (nutritionally) I've tried, I've always felt like 'oh, what the heck, maybe it'll be a miracle' But this FEELS right. Historically, people have always gathered around bodies of water, out of necessity. Transportation, FOOD, cleaning, etc., etc. Our initial diets (as humans) consisted of much more fish, the animals we did hunt down, grazed naturally. Our starches/fruits/vegetables/grains were pretty much limited to their growing seasons. Some amount was able to be stored of course, but there was much more day-to-day variety, and of course nothing 'processed.' We don't live like this anymore and, well... here we are. I'm totally rambling lol.gif I'm sure you guys know all this, it's just the more I think about it, the more it all makes sense.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 07:01 PM

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1:50! omg! That's amazingly off, there has got to be something to this. I've only been taking them 1:1 for two days now, but I just SO feel that we are on to something here! Everything makes sense. Everything else (nutritionally) I've tried, I've always felt like 'oh, what the heck, maybe it'll be a miracle' But this FEELS right. Historically, people have always gathered around bodies of water, out of necessity. Transportation, FOOD, cleaning, etc., etc. Our initial diets (as humans) consisted of much more fish, the animals we did hunt down, grazed naturally. Our starches/fruits/vegetables/grains were pretty much limited to their growing seasons. Some amount was able to be stored of course, but there was much more day-to-day variety, and of course nothing 'processed.' We don't live like this anymore and, well... here we are. I'm totally rambling lol.gif I'm sure you guys know all this, it's just the more I think about it, the more it all makes sense.

Yes smile.gif Most people these days have a body that is out of wack. Long time ago, our ancestors had it down perfectly.

No no it's not rambling, you're absolutely correct!

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In the mid 70's, a team of European researchers ventured off to Greenland to study the unique lifestyle of native Inuit Eskimos. They couldn't have possibly imagined how significant their findings would be. The Inuit's diet was simple and consisted primarily of fatty fish - whale, salmon, sardine, seal, and mackerel. No surprise there. What did surprise them was how unexplainably healthy they were. Healthy hearts. Clear skin. Strong joints. Positive outlooks. All this from a diet that contained ridiculous amounts of fat.

This healthy pattern of fat-fueled living bewildered researchers. That is, until the connection was made. These fatty foods were loaded with substances that the body must have in order to keep healthy - omega-3 essential fatty acids. Fast forwarding 30 years, fish oil supplements aren't just popular, they're nutritional threads that continue to weave the fabric of human wellness.

http://www.bodybuild...om/fun/now8.htm

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And this is something where you can FEEL a difference! It's almost as if when you start taking it, your body goes "I've missed you so much my beloved fish oil, let's get married right away and reap benefits to this lovely body of ours" lol.gif

You get the idea smile.gif And yes, it's amazing how our lifestyle used to be as time used to go by, much like the Inuit Eskimos, except probably not as much fish, but definitely wholesome diets, without much processed foods. In a world where drug and food companies dictate what we should and should not eat, only if people actually followed what they know they should do, they would feel as though they would never go back.

I remember eating unhealthily, never saw the point in eating healthy since I wasn't sure what benefit it would bring. Now that I eat healthy, you miss what you never know you were missing!

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 07:06 PM

Another note and observation.

I went to take a nap earlier, and just woke up. Before taking a nap I ate eggs (all egg whites and one yolk only, ACV). I took 2 capsules of fish oil instead of one. I started reading about how fats are needed to absorb fats, so I took a shot of milk, literally... 1 shot of milk with fat in it.

2 fish oil capsules literally dried up my spit, made me cotton mouthed, and literally halted my excess oil production. My face feels dry right now. But it's because I took 2 at once. I am upping it from 3 to 4 (in a day), since I read 4 is also safe.

So instead of 2 at once, it's best to take 4 split through the day instead of twice at one go. AND BE SURE TO TAKE FISH OIL WITH SOME FORM OF FAT SO IT CAN ABSORB INTO YOUR BODY smile.gif.

Oh, so the moral is don't take 2 at once if you're not used to it. You may get cotton mouth like I did lol.gif

This may be just a coincidence, who knows, but I can literally feel the excess bodily secretions (saliva, sebum) shrink to nothing.

Go FISH GO!

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 07:16 PM

got my fish oil today...are yall eating say 2, 3, 4 etc morning and night or just at some point in the day? Im trying to figure out for example if I should take two in the morning, 2 in the evening or somethin like that.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 07:18 PM

oh ok xxndnromeoxx kinda already answered my question...i guess ill go for 3 or 4 a day and spread it out. wish me luck

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 07:20 PM

Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 07:34 PM

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Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.


Thanks smile.gif

I've followed that paleo diet and to me it makes sense, except that it's just a fancy way of saying "eat right" from the things we know to do today. Our bodies have adapted a bit from long time ago, but the principles are definitely the same. Eat whole foods, don't eat processed foods, and be sure you eat lots of veggies, fruits, water, oats, wheat, grains, etc =)

But when I read about what each aspect does in the big picture, backed my modern day scientific studies, it works much better in fine tuning even the older paleo diet. eusa_dance.gif

Fish oil is definitely a part of it, since sea food leads to omega 3's, but in our world since we may not get enough from eating whole foods, this supplementation does about the same, minus the bad effects from fish (mercury etc).

And about your situation, I am sure that it's happening because you stopped the antibiotics, and yes, after a month or so, you'll see a difference, or should feel a difference. Because imagine this, for the past xx years we've been eating bad or normal... but to reverse the gunk, a month is almost nothing in reversing the effects all the past has done to us.

So I really do hope your diet, and omega 3 help. Also I've noticed exercise has done drastic wonders too!

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 08:37 PM

QUOTE(xxndnromeoxx @ Feb 26 2007, 08:34 PM) View Post
QUOTE(BigBeauty @ Feb 26 2007, 07:20 PM) View Post
Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.


Thanks smile.gif

I've followed that paleo diet and to me it makes sense, except that it's just a fancy way of saying "eat right" from the things we know to do today. Our bodies have adapted a bit from long time ago, but the principles are definitely the same. Eat whole foods, don't eat processed foods, and be sure you eat lots of veggies, fruits, water, oats, wheat, grains, etc =)

But when I read about what each aspect does in the big picture, backed my modern day scientific studies, it works much better in fine tuning even the older paleo diet. eusa_dance.gif

Fish oil is definitely a part of it, since sea food leads to omega 3's, but in our world since we may not get enough from eating whole foods, this supplementation does about the same, minus the bad effects from fish (mercury etc).

And about your situation, I am sure that it's happening because you stopped the antibiotics, and yes, after a month or so, you'll see a difference, or should feel a difference. Because imagine this, for the past xx years we've been eating bad or normal... but to reverse the gunk, a month is almost nothing in reversing the effects all the past has done to us.

So I really do hope your diet, and omega 3 help. Also I've noticed exercise has done drastic wonders too!


Thanks for the encouragement, although the antibiotics initially helped a little, I was naive and regret them now. Yeah, I totally agree, can't really expect to undo years of bad eating and expect instant results.

One of the main principals of the paleo is to not eat grains (even whole grains) at all though. Thats what seems to drastically differ the most from most modern healthy diets. I think the jury is still out on this, but the more I read, the more it seems that our heavy reliance on grains and their high glycemic loads could be related to countless diseases today (or maybe I'm brainwashed by the paleo people!). Personally for me I just feel a lot better since I've started replacing grains with more protein and veggies. I think I'm going to stick out the paleo at least another month, but long term I'll probably also use it as a basis and not be as strict.

Regardless I'm still probably at greater fault in that I haven't got my ass in gear and done enough exercise.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:05 PM

QUOTE(BigBeauty @ Feb 26 2007, 08:37 PM) View Post
QUOTE(xxndnromeoxx @ Feb 26 2007, 08:34 PM) View Post
QUOTE(BigBeauty @ Feb 26 2007, 07:20 PM) View Post
Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.


Thanks smile.gif

I've followed that paleo diet and to me it makes sense, except that it's just a fancy way of saying "eat right" from the things we know to do today. Our bodies have adapted a bit from long time ago, but the principles are definitely the same. Eat whole foods, don't eat processed foods, and be sure you eat lots of veggies, fruits, water, oats, wheat, grains, etc =)

But when I read about what each aspect does in the big picture, backed my modern day scientific studies, it works much better in fine tuning even the older paleo diet. eusa_dance.gif

Fish oil is definitely a part of it, since sea food leads to omega 3's, but in our world since we may not get enough from eating whole foods, this supplementation does about the same, minus the bad effects from fish (mercury etc).

And about your situation, I am sure that it's happening because you stopped the antibiotics, and yes, after a month or so, you'll see a difference, or should feel a difference. Because imagine this, for the past xx years we've been eating bad or normal... but to reverse the gunk, a month is almost nothing in reversing the effects all the past has done to us.

So I really do hope your diet, and omega 3 help. Also I've noticed exercise has done drastic wonders too!


Thanks for the encouragement, although the antibiotics initially helped a little, I was naive and regret them now. Yeah, I totally agree, can't really expect to undo years of bad eating and expect instant results.

One of the main principals of the paleo is to not eat grains (even whole grains) at all though. Thats what seems to drastically differ the most from most modern healthy diets. I think the jury is still out on this, but the more I read, the more it seems that our heavy reliance on grains and their high glycemic loads could be related to countless diseases today (or maybe I'm brainwashed by the paleo people!). Personally for me I just feel a lot better since I've started replacing grains with more protein and veggies. I think I'm going to stick out the paleo at least another month, but long term I'll probably also use it as a basis and not be as strict.

Regardless I'm still probably at greater fault in that I haven't got my ass in gear and done enough exercise.



Yeah don't worry. Let me tell you something I found about grains that was really interesting, well carbs in general. Bad carbs (processed carbs) turn to sugar very fast, which relates to getting insulin spikes. What that translates to is an increase in sebum production. Hence people saying don't eat refined foods, because they relate to sebum production. Good carbs don't do this since it slowly digests etc. But yeah, as long as you can stay with fresh fruits veggies and proteins you should be fine. Just remember to be balanced since our body needs these unprocessed carbs as well. But as long as you're eating healthy, and nothing processed or saturated fat, you'll be fine smile.gif.

Try exercising, reason being is it relates to hormones. It reduces testosterone levels which relate to guess what, sebum production. Regulating testosterone through cardio reduces sebum production as it goes hand in hand.

So you can pretty much see that pattern, everything we do or talk about is to reduce sebum production by being balanced. When things are out of balance, I guess we release too much sebum. Then the fish oil also reduces it, and makes it less thicker and more fluid which won't clog pores smile.gif (yay!!)

but it seems that since you were on antibiotics, you have mild to moderate acne, if not worse? Is this true? tell me more about it?

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:13 PM

do the capsules help acne in general or just target the oil production?

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:14 PM

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do the capsules help acne in general or just target the oil production?


Both smile.gif

Since acne is formed from clogged pores which are generally from oil and dead skin cells, it stops oil production which stops acne (considering you also rid dead skin cells too). So yup

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:16 PM

I don't think reducing your testosterone levels is a good idea. If you find yourself crying after an episode of your favorite soap opera then you know its time to cut back on the cardio =P

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:23 PM

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I don't think reducing your testosterone levels is a good idea. If you find yourself crying after an episode of your favorite soap opera then you know its time to cut back on the cardio =P


lol, I should have said reduced it to normal levels instead hahaha. As in regulates, instead of just reduces to the point of becoming a woman haha

I actually pictured that! lol.gif

Another interesting fact, our test levels are 30% higher in the morning than at night ;]

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE


Another interesting fact, our test levels are 30% higher in the morning than at night ;]

That would explain why all my boyfriends have always been like: RAWR in the AM, moreso than the PM - if you know what I mean wink.gif

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 09:30 PM

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Another interesting fact, our test levels are 30% higher in the morning than at night ;]

That would explain why all my boyfriends have always been like: RAWR in the AM, moreso than the PM - if you know what I mean wink.gif

lol.gif

I was going to write something along those lines too but I just opted out for a smiley and let other people have the idea.gif sign pop up above their heads lol.gif

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(BigBeauty @ Feb 26 2007, 07:20 PM) View Post
Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.


Thanks smile.gif

I've followed that paleo diet and to me it makes sense, except that it's just a fancy way of saying "eat right" from the things we know to do today. Our bodies have adapted a bit from long time ago, but the principles are definitely the same. Eat whole foods, don't eat processed foods, and be sure you eat lots of veggies, fruits, water, oats, wheat, grains, etc =)

But when I read about what each aspect does in the big picture, backed my modern day scientific studies, it works much better in fine tuning even the older paleo diet. eusa_dance.gif

Fish oil is definitely a part of it, since sea food leads to omega 3's, but in our world since we may not get enough from eating whole foods, this supplementation does about the same, minus the bad effects from fish (mercury etc).

And about your situation, I am sure that it's happening because you stopped the antibiotics, and yes, after a month or so, you'll see a difference, or should feel a difference. Because imagine this, for the past xx years we've been eating bad or normal... but to reverse the gunk, a month is almost nothing in reversing the effects all the past has done to us.

So I really do hope your diet, and omega 3 help. Also I've noticed exercise has done drastic wonders too!


Thanks for the encouragement, although the antibiotics initially helped a little, I was naive and regret them now. Yeah, I totally agree, can't really expect to undo years of bad eating and expect instant results.

One of the main principals of the paleo is to not eat grains (even whole grains) at all though. Thats what seems to drastically differ the most from most modern healthy diets. I think the jury is still out on this, but the more I read, the more it seems that our heavy reliance on grains and their high glycemic loads could be related to countless diseases today (or maybe I'm brainwashed by the paleo people!). Personally for me I just feel a lot better since I've started replacing grains with more protein and veggies. I think I'm going to stick out the paleo at least another month, but long term I'll probably also use it as a basis and not be as strict.

Regardless I'm still probably at greater fault in that I haven't got my ass in gear and done enough exercise.



Yeah don't worry. Let me tell you something I found about grains that was really interesting, well carbs in general. Bad carbs (processed carbs) turn to sugar very fast, which relates to getting insulin spikes. What that translates to is an increase in sebum production. Hence people saying don't eat refined foods, because they relate to sebum production. Good carbs don't do this since it slowly digests etc. But yeah, as long as you can stay with fresh fruits veggies and proteins you should be fine. Just remember to be balanced since our body needs these unprocessed carbs as well. But as long as you're eating healthy, and nothing processed or saturated fat, you'll be fine smile.gif.

Try exercising, reason being is it relates to hormones. It reduces testosterone levels which relate to guess what, sebum production. Regulating testosterone through cardio reduces sebum production as it goes hand in hand.

So you can pretty much see that pattern, everything we do or talk about is to reduce sebum production by being balanced. When things are out of balance, I guess we release too much sebum. Then the fish oil also reduces it, and makes it less thicker and more fluid which won't clog pores smile.gif (yay!!)

but it seems that since you were on antibiotics, you have mild to moderate acne, if not worse? Is this true? tell me more about it?



Thanks for the info, I only knew exercise would be directly good in relation to acne in that it increases blood circulation. I didn't even realize that it helps regulate testosterone, but that seems pretty believable. I've pretty much already concluded/assumed that my hormones are a little bit out of whack in that my testosterone converts too much DHT and have been searching for solutions, so that's a pretty simple one to help! The more I learn stuff here, the more I upset I get with derms in general that they really don't explain these basics at the start; I mean they have to know this shit, it has to be basic to them.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:10 PM

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Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.


Thanks smile.gif

I've followed that paleo diet and to me it makes sense, except that it's just a fancy way of saying "eat right" from the things we know to do today. Our bodies have adapted a bit from long time ago, but the principles are definitely the same. Eat whole foods, don't eat processed foods, and be sure you eat lots of veggies, fruits, water, oats, wheat, grains, etc =)

But when I read about what each aspect does in the big picture, backed my modern day scientific studies, it works much better in fine tuning even the older paleo diet. eusa_dance.gif

Fish oil is definitely a part of it, since sea food leads to omega 3's, but in our world since we may not get enough from eating whole foods, this supplementation does about the same, minus the bad effects from fish (mercury etc).

And about your situation, I am sure that it's happening because you stopped the antibiotics, and yes, after a month or so, you'll see a difference, or should feel a difference. Because imagine this, for the past xx years we've been eating bad or normal... but to reverse the gunk, a month is almost nothing in reversing the effects all the past has done to us.

So I really do hope your diet, and omega 3 help. Also I've noticed exercise has done drastic wonders too!


Thanks for the encouragement, although the antibiotics initially helped a little, I was naive and regret them now. Yeah, I totally agree, can't really expect to undo years of bad eating and expect instant results.

One of the main principals of the paleo is to not eat grains (even whole grains) at all though. Thats what seems to drastically differ the most from most modern healthy diets. I think the jury is still out on this, but the more I read, the more it seems that our heavy reliance on grains and their high glycemic loads could be related to countless diseases today (or maybe I'm brainwashed by the paleo people!). Personally for me I just feel a lot better since I've started replacing grains with more protein and veggies. I think I'm going to stick out the paleo at least another month, but long term I'll probably also use it as a basis and not be as strict.

Regardless I'm still probably at greater fault in that I haven't got my ass in gear and done enough exercise.



Yeah don't worry. Let me tell you something I found about grains that was really interesting, well carbs in general. Bad carbs (processed carbs) turn to sugar very fast, which relates to getting insulin spikes. What that translates to is an increase in sebum production. Hence people saying don't eat refined foods, because they relate to sebum production. Good carbs don't do this since it slowly digests etc. But yeah, as long as you can stay with fresh fruits veggies and proteins you should be fine. Just remember to be balanced since our body needs these unprocessed carbs as well. But as long as you're eating healthy, and nothing processed or saturated fat, you'll be fine smile.gif.

Try exercising, reason being is it relates to hormones. It reduces testosterone levels which relate to guess what, sebum production. Regulating testosterone through cardio reduces sebum production as it goes hand in hand.

So you can pretty much see that pattern, everything we do or talk about is to reduce sebum production by being balanced. When things are out of balance, I guess we release too much sebum. Then the fish oil also reduces it, and makes it less thicker and more fluid which won't clog pores smile.gif (yay!!)

but it seems that since you were on antibiotics, you have mild to moderate acne, if not worse? Is this true? tell me more about it?



Thanks for the info, I only knew exercise would be directly good in relation to acne in that it increases blood circulation. I didn't even realize that it helps regulate testosterone, but that seems pretty believable. I've pretty much already concluded/assumed that my hormones are a little bit out of whack in that my testosterone converts too much DHT and have been searching for solutions, so that's a pretty simple one to help! The more I learn stuff here, the more I upset I get with derms in general that they really don't explain these basics at the start; I mean they have to know this shit, it has to be basic to them.


They all just put us on drugs or topicals. It's just a big business and I'm sick of it. There IS a cure, and the cure is not profitable, hence it's not as mainstream as people want.

I want to do something about this and make my own website or something and pretty much sum up all this, in terms of exactly what to do for external and internal purposes to stop this nonsense for mild to moderate acne sufferers. Because the dan kern regimen itself isn't enough to stop future acne, it just treats existing ones (and not too good sad.gif )

My skin is so non oily right now that I feel like I am on accutane, it's literally weird. I don't even have excess saliva anymore, I keep drinking water, and I already drink 10-16 glasses daily naturally. I don't even have excess oil on my body anymore, it's crystal clean and no oil slicks or anything nasty either, all from a few easy steps smile.gif




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