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Posted 17 September 2011 - 04:42 PM

I was wondering something today and decided here would be a better place to ask than starting a new thread (seeing as I've made three within the past few days...eusa_whistle.gif).

Is it possible to get too many omega 3s? It seems my ratio would be predominantly omega 3s with my dietary changes. Is there anything harmful about this?

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 08:22 AM

I've noticed a drastic increase in hair falling out since taking omega 3's. Iam not sure if anyone else on here has noticed this although. I have come across this topic though on other forums. My normal intake is two capsules in the morning at two at night ( probably around 4 grams). I thought perhaps that my omega 3's had become rancid sitting in the cabinet so I went out and bought some that were refrigerated. I only took them for a few days and decided that maybe I should just give myself a break from them all toghether for a little while. An interesting thing that I've noticed since discontinuing the omega 3's is that my morning breath has returned. Apparently omega 3's helps kill of the bacteria that cause bad breath. I've also ready that bad breath is an indication of how rancid your colon is. Chlorophyll helped eliminate my halitosis as well. Anyway I thought the gut/ acne connection was interesting. Doing colon cleanses and colonics has always helped my skin out a lot as well ( probably more so than anything else I've done). Enemas didn't really do much.

Thanks for bringing up the whole omega 3 to 6 and 9 ratio things. That might be why my hair started falling out.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:25 PM

this fatty acids were very helpful... we need omega vitamins if we want to stay active and live long.

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 02:24 PM

I was wondering something today and decided here would be a better place to ask than starting a new thread (seeing as I've made three within the past few days...Posted Image).

Is it possible to get too many omega 3s? It seems my ratio would be predominantly omega 3s with my dietary changes. Is there anything harmful about this?


I am wondering the same thing. Anyone?

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 07:05 AM

It is possible to get too many omega3's. Ratio of 3-6-9 is key.
Many people megadose fish oil thinking there doing themselves good.
Look at ur diet and see if it does require 0mega3 supplementation.
I eat a lot of oily fish so i dont supp fish oil.
Also from my experience fish oil does nothing for my skin, although props to those who have cleared up from it.

BTW get a GOOD fish oil brand. DONT get those cheap ass $5 ones from wal-mart they are GARBAGE and actually made my skin worse. When i do supplement fish oil (rarely) i use a good brand from a GNC that costs at least $15-25.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:06 PM

i've been taking flax seed oil and it's working great for me! If i dont take it, my skin would react really badly. Flax seed oil makes my skin extremely smooth and soft!

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:52 PM

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:17 AM

Omega 3 and fatty acids are great for Acne...
I've been taking Cod Liver Oil for almost 6 months and I can tell it have help sooo much. My skin is not very dry and not very oily. and scars are fading.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 09:47 PM

It seems that 3 grams is what people are recommending? Hmm, I just take tablets. But, I been eating flaxseed tablets instead. I heard that was better than omega 3..

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 11:54 PM

Has anyone else broken out from taking omega supplements? I broke out in cystic acne all along my chin from taking them. Other than the huge, painful cysts my skin was soft and glowing, but I am not normally prone to cysts so I stopped taking the supplements. Normally I would just get small acne that would go away in a few days.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 03:00 PM

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:53 AM

Hello! I'm going to try and incorporate some fishy oil into my diet! Just thought I'd let you know also that flax seed oil might have it's benefits,
but the body has to convert it to DHA and EPA which means, if you can hold your nose, fish oil is the best option.
Also, because of the high levels of mercury, you should aim for pharmaceutical grade fish oil liquids.
One teaspoon is usuallly equivalent to 8 tablets and the bioavailibility is often better and they come in natural fruit flavours now.
I'm pretty pumped because it's been missing from my diet for a while. I bought a bottle of flax seed, seems like I'll have to finish it.
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:25 PM

Hello! I'm going to try and incorporate some fishy oil into my diet! Just thought I'd let you know also that flax seed oil might have it's benefits,
but the body has to convert it to DHA and EPA which means, if you can hold your nose, fish oil is the best option.
Also, because of the high levels of mercury, you should aim for pharmaceutical grade fish oil liquids.
One teaspoon is usuallly equivalent to 8 tablets and the bioavailibility is often better and they come in natural fruit flavours now.
I'm pretty pumped because it's been missing from my diet for a while. I bought a bottle of flax seed, seems like I'll have to finish it.


Yes, make sure you invest in a high grade fish oil. Although im taking swansons super epa right now because its cheap. I noticed you have to take it in the day time not night. for some reason i developed bumps under my skin and i thought it was an allergic reaction but i guess not.

If your concerned with possible mercury or other toxins add magnesium into your diet as magnesium is great for binding up excess metals in the body like mercury. Also MSM is great for detoxing the liver. I take a 1gram a day and no more.

MSM can increase sebum production and this i have noticed with take 2, 1gram capsules. I reduced and the problem went away. Always take in the morning or before afternoon because it will keep you up at night.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 01:55 PM

I notice when I eat salmon, my skin tends to be less oily. I don't eat a lot, 2x a week seems to work pretty well for me. However, I have been reading something that disturbs me lately. Companies are trying to have genetically modified salmon approved. This bothers me because if they achieve the goal, this salmon may end up on shelves without having a label. From the article I read this salmon has higher levels of IGF-1.........which I have seen on here to be a major factor in acne problems. I am including part of the article, and the link.

"The AquAdvantage salmon is an Atlantic salmon with genes inserted from a Chinook salmon and an ocean pout. The Chinook gene codes for growth hormone, and the pout gene keeps the Chinook gene locked in the "on" position. The extra growth hormone helps the AquAdvantage salmon reach market size twice as fast as non-GE salmon."

"One such constituent is IGF-1, a hormone found in some animal products that's linked to cancer in high doses. The petitioners suspect AquAdvantage salmon of harboring elevated levels of IGF-1, and challenge AquaBounty's claim that IGF-1 levels in AquAdvantage salmon are no greater than in normal salmon. The petition says AquaBounty's own data suggest IGF-1 levels could be higher in the GE salmon."

Credit: http://www.alternet....onsumers?page=1


So, those who say that food can't be a source of acne are not well-versed in my opinion. It appears that more and more of the food supply is becoming polluted, and therefore becoming increasing harder for those of us who suffer this condition to find solutions. You notice they only mention cancer risk and not the effect it may have on acne..which is really SAD because one of the ways we help our situation is using the omega 3s from fish..whether from the oil or through whole. Some prefer whole food to pills. I have no idea if oil taken from GMO fish will have the IGF1 in it or not. But, I think this something we need to think about. The very thing we believe we are using in good conscience to help ourselves very well could end up having the adverse effect. :(

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:26 PM

Oh, I also wanted to say that anyone taking flax oil for the 3:

ALA found in plant based foods are similar to the Omega 3 you find in fish (DHA and EPA). ALA must be converted to EPA and DHA, which you body can do, but I have read it is a small % rate conversion. However, you may have an inability or reduced ability to convert due to a faulty D6D enzyme. The D6D enzyme may be inhibited by many factors including: too much Omega 6 (like our normal American diet provides--and can reduce the conversion by 40%), deficiency in co factors of Vit B3, B6, C, zinc and magnesium....

That is the reason many people prefer to use fish oil because no conversion through the D6D enzyme is needed--the EPA and DHA are already formed and ready to be used by the body. However, I did read somewhere that IF you completely cut out your ALA to bypass the D6D enzyme, your body will have a reduced ability to use the enzyme (which you need for other functions). lack of use will cause it to atrophy I guess. Anyhow, if you are going to use strictly fish or fish oil, might still add in some plant based ALA just to keep the enzyme active.

As to flax inhibiting hormones.... from my research, flax oil itself will not have any estrogenic activity whatsoever UNLESS you consume the lignans. I am NOT a doctor or scientist--this is what i have gathered from doing my own research on the net. Most bottled flax oil will have the lignans removed unless you specifically buy one labeled. I have one with lignans because lignans were shown to enhance the conversion of ALA to DHA and EPA. If you use flax without them, the conversion rate may be much lower, and it is already low in the first place. On the flip side, if you add lignans, you are going to introduce an estrogen effect.

Lignans: increases good estrogen metabolism. These plant estrogens weakly mimic our own natural estrogen. They help balance hormones by: decreasing high estrogen in women before menopause and increase estrogen after menopause. They are anti-viral, anti-fungal, anti-cancer, anti-diabetic, anti-oxidant, anti-inflammatory and anti-cholesterol. From what I understand lignans closely resemble the natural estrogen enough that they can bind to our receptors..this means if you have little natural estrogen, lignans fill in the gap. Therefore, the natural estrogen is removed from the body.

As far as it causing cancer, I have read the contrary. While many cancers are estrogen dependent or driven, plant estrogens are much weaker. So, from what I have read says that by having the plant estrogens attach to the receptors, the powerful real estrogen can't work havoc..when it is removed out of the body, it helps protect the body from constant estrogen influx and gives it a break because the phytoestrogens meet our needs prompting our own hormones to take a break from making estrogen. Phytoestrogens can lengthen menstrual cycles (which reduces amount of estrogen) and reduce breast tenderness, swelling and PMS.

Sites I read say phytoestrogens take about a week to build up in the body...so I guess one should expect at least that long to see any results. After stopping, the effects (what I think it was saying) are gone in 48-72 hours. Also, as with anything, take a break of at least a few weeks every now and then. I alternate between fish oil and flax. I'll take one for a month or so, then switch to the other.

BTW, previously I mentioned I have flax oil with lignans. I have used it maybe a month--I didn't realize the lignans were not coming out in the previous bottle. lol I through they were super finely ground, but apparently they all settled on the bottom of the bottle and I never knew it until the oil was gone (dark brown bottle). I had severe cystic breakouts 2 weeks before my period for 2 months and I had no idea what was causing it, so I stopped everything new. I took the oil, but not the lignans in it. This month, so far so good. I do NOT think the lignans caused the breakouts, however. I think I have narrowed that down to using too many products and dried out my skin because i was not moisturizing. I was using .3%retinol about every night plus BP in the mornings..glycolic acid cream sometimes to remove flakes... I believe at this point, my skin was damaged and it had a reaction because once I cut back and started using moisturizer, my skin is again normal. However, I add this because I am not 100% sure what caused the problems so I felt I should mention this just in case. Always be diligent and watch for adverse reactions. Posted Image



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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:58 PM

Reading this book called The Brain Diet, has a few good chapters on the gut/brain connection. I wish it cited it's sources instead of mentioning "a study by japanese researchers in 2008," but I have found one of the studies.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/12894686

Apparently, Omega 3 fats can greatly enhance the effectiveness of omega 3s probiotics, improving the amount that adheres to the gut. Perhaps not by coincidence, this is something reccomended in GAPS protocal I believe. The author says things like saturated fat inhibit growth, but I can't seem to find the studies. Will update later if I do.

Edit'd for derp error

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:34 PM

Reading this book called The Brain Diet, has a few good chapters on the gut/brain connection. I wish it cited it's sources instead of mentioning "a study by japanese researchers in 2008," but I have found one of the studies.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/12894686

Apparently, Omega 3 fats can greatly enhance the effectiveness of omega 3s, improving the amount that adheres to the gut. Perhaps not by coincidence, this is something reccomended in GAPS protocal I believe. The author says things like saturated fat inhibit growth, but I can't seem to find the studies. Will update later if I do.


That is interesting! Now is this the reasoning behind why Omega 3s are considered to be anti-inflammatory for the whole body? If they enhance probiotics, which improves digestion and immune function would that constitute the lowering of the body's overall inflammation factor? Which could then lead to fewer acne responses (at least more severe ones)?

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 04:45 AM

I got a question about that. On Friday I purchased Omega 3 Fish oil supplements from GNC (1000 mgs) It says on the bottle to take it once to twice a day. If I took it three times a day is that considered an overdose? Sorry if thats a stupid question but I need to know the answer


Would it be ok if you will take it twice a day? I am also taking krill oil supplements but I'm just taking it once a day. :)

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 10:44 AM

Well that's the thing. You can only eat so much fish before over consumption of mercury is a concern - so... even if you are able to eat and like eating fish, these supplements are a nice way of getting the fatty acids without poisoning yourself accidently if your fish addicted :)

Speaking of which... I've been eating too much sushi lately, LOL!

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 02:31 PM

I've been taking strong Omega 3 fish oil supplements (one per day) for a few months now, and I'm impressed by them. I have had far less new acne since I started taking them, but to be honest I can't be sure whether that is because of them or some other factor.

I have a question though, that I think is better suited to this thread than creating a whole new one. I'm bothered about how they are called "Omega 3 FATTY acids". I am a tad overweight and on a diet designed to steadily lose weight over time but should I stop taking the fish oil? I know not all fats are bad but, I'm trying really hard to not eat badly and really struggle with controlling my appetite so I would be horrified if all of my effort is being wasted because I'm taking these fish oil capsules!

According to the label each capsule has 1300mg of fish oil, 351mg of EPA and 234mg of DHA.

Sorry for my ignorance on this, any advice would be appreciated.

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