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#3341 -Guilherme-

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 07:40 PM

DO NOT take more than 3g daily (of fish oil and NOT EPA + DHA). 2g per day is the ideal.

Omega 3 is not miraculous, it can improve some inflammations process and skin condition, but taking too high doses will low platelets count (causing harder blood coagulation - more bleeding) and does a lot of bad things in long term.

Be aware.

Edited by -Guilherme-, 27 December 2010 - 07:41 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:12 PM

little HELP here!

i'm trying to get on the FISH OIL Bandwagon to help me combat my acne.... My Derm. once recommeded a kind, but i don't remember exactly what it was...

what i've been starting to take in the last several days is One-Per -Day OMEGA 3 FISH OIL.

SUPPLEMENT FACTS include:
Calories - 10

Total Fat - 1g

Fish Oil 12oomg
Total Omega 3 Fatty Acids++ 684 mg
Omega 3 EPA++41-mg
Omega 3 DHA++ 274mg

Ingredients: Fish Oild concentrate, Gelatin, Glycerin, Methacrylic Acid Copolymer, d-Sorbitol, Propylene Glycol, Glyceryl Monosteatate, Triethyl Citrate, Triacetin, Vanillin, Mixed Natural Tocopherol, Polysorbate 80.

Contains: FIsh, (anchovy, sardine) and Soy.

can anyone tell me if i'm taking the right stuff to help with the acne or is it no good? And if it's ok to take these specific pills that have a freshness and potency guaranteeed thru FEB 2010?

THanks in Advance.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 07:43 AM

Acne 100% gets aggravated by a poor diet, it's a shame doctors do not understand this consequently providing false information to innocent people who should be enjoying their life to the fullest & not suffering the degrading symptom of acne.

Omega 7 is a great way to help alleviate acne internally. How come no one hears about it. Because it will work & you wont have to buy useless products over and over again nelly.
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Posted 26 January 2011 - 07:52 AM

I have been taking ground flax seeds for about a month now in my yogurt every morning. I really believe this was a great contributing factor in my improved skin tone, reduced acne and reduced redness. My skin looks better than it has in ages! I have tried flax before, but not on a constant basis. I hope my skin keeps looking as great as it does today with the added omega 3's.



We just need to make sure we are eating things that come from the earth, and not factories!


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Posted 27 January 2011 - 08:14 PM

Alright so I recently purchased Finest Natural Clear Natural Enteric Softgel Fish Oil.
It is 1000mg per softgel. Omega 3 fatty acids: 300mg, EPA/DHA: 250mg

My question is, is this a good brand to take? And how many should I take to see my skin clear up?

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 12:43 PM

QUOTE (dwade4life5 @ Jan 27 2011, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alright so I recently purchased Finest Natural Clear Natural Enteric Softgel Fish Oil.
It is 1000mg per softgel. Omega 3 fatty acids: 300mg, EPA/DHA: 250mg

My question is, is this a good brand to take? And how many should I take to see my skin clear up?

i dont think it really matters on the brand... if its omega 3 fish oil then your good... oh and make sure its Mercury free

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 06:37 AM

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Edited by absyna, 12 June 2011 - 08:59 PM.


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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:43 PM

I joined in on the fish oil two days ago.

I'm in Australia and most of the brands mentioned here aren't around.


I'm taking Ethical Nutrients Hi-Strength Liquid Fish Oil.

Each 5 mL (by measuring cap) contains:

Concentrated Omega-3 triglycerides - fish 4600 mg
Equiv. Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) 1900 mg
Equiv. Docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) 927 mg


I have had mild to moderate cystic acne for the last 7 years.

The Omega 3/6 balance of my diet can range from 6:1 to 15:1 depending on what I eat.

My diet was/is organic low GI vegan (until the fish oil came into it).

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 11:52 AM

I'm really confused about this whole ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 and if anyone could help me that would be great. As a person who is naturally skinny i decided to put more protein in my diet with chicken, eggs and just today i bought some shelled hemp from my health food shop; now on the bag it says the ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 is 4:1. This the makers say 'mirrors the primative diet the human race evolved on for 2.5 million years'. However just looking at this thread it seems people on here are saying that a big amount of omega 6 will break them out in acne. Should i be worried about this? I dont want a huge breakout because i put some hemp in my smoothie earlier.

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 12:02 PM

Could someone more knowledgable than me comment on this supplement:

http://www.planetorg...as-3-6-7-9.html

Good? No? Better off getting 'pure' Omega-3 fish oil?

TIA!

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 11:58 AM

A smaller sized study/paper that has a lot of good information. Pictures and graphs included. Hopefully one day a study with the same controlled factors could be implemented with a much larger sample group! Great reference list as well, going to read up more on them.


http://www.lipidworl.../content/7/1/36
Acne vulgaris, mental health and omega-3 fatty acids: a report of cases
Mark G Rubin, Katherine Kim and Alan C Logan


Abstract
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Acne vulgaris is a common skin condition, one that is associated with significant psychological disability. The psychological impairments in acne include higher rates of depression, anxiety, anger and suicidal thoughts. Despite a paucity of clinical research, patients with skin conditions and/or mental health disorders are frequent consumers of dietary supplements. An overlap may exist between nutrients that potentially have both anti-acne and mood regulating properties; examples include omega-3 fatty acids from fish oil, chromium, zinc and selenium. Here we report on five cases of acne treated with eicosapentaenoic acid and antioxidant nutrients. Self-administration of these nutrients may have improved inflammatory acne lesions and global aspects of well-being; the observations suggest a need for controlled trials.


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... Speculation that dietary factors can influence acne has been a matter of debate for decades, and emerging research is certainly suggesting that diet may indeed be an important factor, particularly in mediating the inflammation and oxidative stress of the acne process [11-13]. Hints that omega-3 fatty acids might positively influence acne originate from older epidemiological studies which show that communities that maintain a traditional diet high in omega-3 fatty acids have low rates of acne [14]. One study in over 1000 teenagers from North Carolina found that each of the primary signs of acne – comedones, papules, pustules, acne cysts and oily skin – were significantly lower in in those consuming the greatest amounts of fish and seafood [15]. A separate investigation showed that patients actually with acne are more likely to be infrequent consumers of dietary fish and seafood [16]. More recently, investigators have outlined mechanisms whereby fish oil may be effective in reducing inflammatory acne. The inflammatory chemical leukotriene B4 (LTB4) is now know to up-regulate sebum production, and synthetic inhibition of LTB4, in the form of the drug zileuton, leads to significant improvement in acne [17,18]. Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) from fish oil, and gamma-linolenic acid (GLA) from borage oil, have been reported to inhibit the conversion of arachidonic acid into LTB4 to the same degree as the LTB4-inhibiting acne drug candidate zileuton [19]. Sophisticated studies have recently demonstrated that each pilosebaceous unit has the machinery in place to manufacture inflammatory chemicals, including LTB4, with the raw materials supplied from the breakdown products of dietary fats [20]. Fish oil, and EPA in particular, has a wealth of research to support its ability to inhibit LTB4 production [21], yet to date, no investigators have reported on the clinical utility of fish oil for acne.

...Clinical intervention studies show that a diet with an overall low glycemic load, more dietary fiber, more fish and seafood is helpful in acne. Results show an average 22 less acne lesions in those who adhere to such a diet [11,12].

On the one hand there are certainly hints that marine lipids, minerals and phytochemicals might have potential to reduce inflammatory acne lesions, and on the other, it is almost difficult not to notice that these are the very same nutrients that have been shown to influence mental outlook, depressive symptoms and anxiety. Omega-3 fatty acids [36], zinc [37], selenium [38], chromium [39], and even phytochemicals such as those found in green tea [40], have been shown to improve mood and decrease anxiety in various clinical and experimental studies. We, and others [41], have wondered if such dietary nutrients, or combinations thereof, might influence inflammatory acne and perhaps more importantly, the mental outlook of users with acne. Clinical studies utilizing dietary changes or specific nutrient interventions in acne have not evaluated aspects of mood or mental health as an outcome.


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The self-administration of an omega-3 fish oil-based nutrient combination for two months did appear to have some influence on the acne process, and perhaps more importantly, on mental outlook. Specifically, four of the individuals had a reduction in total lesion count, with a range of 11 to 41 less lesions after 2 months. The average total lesion count among the group dropped from 62.8 to 40.4. It was in the area of inflammatory lesions where the intervention seemed to make a more significant difference. This reduction of marked inflammation and redness of lesions is apparent in the photographic evidence of figures 1, 2. Remarkably, not one subject had a worsening of inflammatory acne lesions during the two months, and all had at least some reduction in inflammatory papules. The average inflammatory lesion count at baseline was 20.8 and this decreased to 6.8 after two months. The average lesion counts are presented in the bar graphs of figure 3. One of the five subjects did have a higher overall acne lesion count after two months, there was a specific 2-fold increase in pustules and comedones, however, a 30 percent reduction in inflammatory papules was also noted.


Rubin M, Kim K, Logan A. Acne vulgaris, mental health and omega-3 fatty acids: a report of cases. Lipids In Health And Disease [serial online]. October 13, 2008;7:36. Available from: MEDLINE, Ipswich, MA. Accessed June 14, 2011.

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 04:38 AM

I'll admit I've taken six Omega 3 Fish Oil's in 1 day before. It improved my skin so much. Now days I stick to three a day, although I would prefer to take six sad.gif

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 02:03 PM

Fish oil is great, your body needs a sufficient amount of omega 3, 6 and 9 fatty acids. These help your skin stay elastic and moisturized as well as bring hydration to the skin. If you have dry skin there's a good chance you aren't drinking enough water or getting enough good fats (omega fats) in your diet.


You can get omega fats through fish, flaxseeds and supplements as well.

Hope this helps everyone!

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 08:49 PM

ive been trying this for about 3 months and i can say i feel much healthier, acne seems to have gone done a little, but this is no miracle cure.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 02:46 AM

can anyone tell me if it's possible to get the correct omega 3:6 ratio without supplementing fish oil, while continuing to eat meat? I've used fish oil in the past and it worked for a week or so, but stopped working, I'm assuming because I contined to eat foods high in omega 6, and didn't know anything about the ratio.

I've been doing a lot of research on the nutrition data website, and it seems if I want to continue to eat chicken/beef/eggs it would be pretty much impossible to maintain a normal-ish ratio without supplementing fish oil. I do intend on making salmon a regular part of my diet, but I still don't think it's enough. There doens't seem to be many foods in favour of omega 3 over 6 to balance it out, and if they are it's only just slightly in favour.

Edited by mycure, 19 July 2011 - 02:46 AM.


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Posted 23 July 2011 - 02:19 AM

hey so after reading about 30 pages of this post, i kinda freaked out, thinking about the imbalance of the omegas of my diet, ive been trying the past 2 days to calculate what my ratio was, and it was driving my crazy!!!!, i eat pretty healthy but im sure that my ratio is high like 10:1 just like more people.
I recently started taking trader joe's 'COMPLETE EFA' it has
borage seed oil 400mg
flaxseed oil-400mg
molecularly distilled fish oils-400mg

im wondering if this is having any benefit??
shouldn't the flaxseed and fish oils make a 2:1 ratio to the borage seed oils?
should i just get fish oils or flaxseed oil pills instead??

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 06:09 PM

Don't take fishoil, flaxseed oil is much healthier. Recent studies show that DHA (from fishoil) actually causes prostate cancer (and who knows what else, there hasn't been much research on other diseases) and EPA only protects against depression in low doses. In high doses it does the opposite. If you want to see the studies just google it.

My guess is, the body only needs very small amounts of EPA/DHA and we should let our body decide how much it needs by giving it the precursor ALA which the body will convert to EPA/DHA as it sees fit. ALA is in flaxseed oil.

Heavy metal poisoning from fish is another thing to watch out for.

Edited by VeganSunrise, 27 July 2011 - 06:10 PM.

Veganism for a healthy soul and body. Cooked/steamed vegetables, fruit, legumes, quinoa/millet, olive oil and flaxseed oil.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 05:25 AM

I just want to say that cod liver oil is a much better option for people looking for a fish oil. Fish oil is made from the skin, whereas cod liver oil is taken from the liver. The biggest difference, and why i switched to cod liver oil, is due to the naturally occurring vitamin A and D found in the cod liver oil.

I have to say that this is the single greatest supplement i have ever taken, and it's given me security against breakouts. Since i've been taking it the blemishes i occasionally get are barely noticeable and heal in a few days at most. There IS a difference between naturally occurring vitamins and synthetic. I've tried both and only noticed a difference while getting the vitamins from a food source.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 06:49 AM

Ok so i want to join in on trying out some omega combos and seeing if it helps. First of all i eat smoked salmon every morning with eggs about 10g or so. I also have a can of tuna or sardines at night along with fish for dinner twice a week now i aim for whereas previously for dinner fish would be a rarity. Would that be good enough amount of omega 3's? Now omega 6's im not sure if i need those because nuts break me out so i guess i don't handle them well.

I guess i could buy some flax seed oil to go with my fish diet. Also is avocado a good source of acne friendly fats?

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (VeganSunrise @ Jul 27 2011, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't take fishoil, flaxseed oil is much healthier. Recent studies show that DHA (from fishoil) actually causes prostate cancer (and who knows what else, there hasn't been much research on other diseases) and EPA only protects against depression in low doses. In high doses it does the opposite. If you want to see the studies just google it.

My guess is, the body only needs very small amounts of EPA/DHA and we should let our body decide how much it needs by giving it the precursor ALA which the body will convert to EPA/DHA as it sees fit. ALA is in flaxseed oil.

Heavy metal poisoning from fish is another thing to watch out for.


No, flaxseed oil is definitely not healthier than fish oil or cod liver oil.
ALA -> EPA/DHA conversion is extremely inefficient in humans (although you DO need ALA, in addition to EPA/DHA.)

Judging by your name, I think it's safe to assume you may be getting your health information from a biased source.
After suffering with acne since age 11, finally found my triggers 11 years later.
Clear for almost 1 year & in control of my acne, although due to some hyperpigmentation, I believed I was still breaking out. In fact, I thought I had just cleared up a few months ago, but after realizing my "breakouts" were simply scarring I also realized I was technically clear for much longer than I thought. Rare breakouts only whenever I get lazy with my diet.

The Cure for Acne:
-Avoid the Acne Trifecta: Soy, Gluten, and Dairy like the plague.
-Eat a Low-GI diet and avoid Sugar.
-Eat lots of protein and healthy fats (ANTIBIOTIC FREE/NO HORMONES ADDED/FREE RANGE/HUMANELY SLAUGHTERED)
-Get lots of green vegetables and sunshine.
-Supplement whenever possible. Due to how much we've ruined food in the past 60 years, the amount of nutrients found in food nowadays is lower than it was decades ago.
-Exercise, get sunshine, and avoid stressful situations.
-Don't fear food. Go out & eat. It's not good for the skin, but it's good for the soul.




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