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I found something that hit it right on the head

* Transport oxygen from red blood cells to the tissues

* Promote brain development

* Keep saturated fats mobile in the blood stream

* Are an anti-inflammatory (rheumatoid arthritis, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease)

* Regulate pressure in the eye, joints, and blood vessels, and mediating immune response

* Regulate bodily secretions and their viscosity

* Dilate or constricting blood vessels

* Regulate collateral circulation

* Reduces blood pressure / Dilates blood vessels

* Regulate cell division rate

* Maintain the fluidity and rigidity of cellular membranes

* Regulate the inflow and outflow of substances to and from cells

* Direct endocrine hormones to their target cells

* Maintain proper kidney function and fluid balance

* Prevent blood cells from clumping together (blood clots that can be a cause of heart attack and stroke)

* Regulate smooth muscles and autonomic reflexes

* Regulate nerve transmission and communication

* Support cardiovascular health

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/efa.htm

No wonder my oil production has lessened, and is already less thick. Awesome!!

lesson for the day, everyone needs efa's, no matter what

Cheers for that it's an interesting website and very helpful as i learn how my body works and what it needs. It may sound strange but i am finally after 9 depressing years of Acne enjoying the challange of beating it and am seeing results at last. This website is great wish i had found it a few years ago


Morning:

Wash face with water only

My diet each day is very healthy , No or very little Sugar or Dairy

Lots of Omega 3 Fish Oil

Multivitamin

Evening:

Wash with water only again

Change pillow cases every other day

Currently have everything nearly under control but still have some scarring from my time on Accutane


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Omega 3 is awsome along with a healthy diet it is what u need to beat Acne. I take Flax seed with every meal

Along with plenty of cardio :dance:

Speaking of cardio I need to start getting back into exercise. I mean I do walk a lot but I need to start using the stairclimber or something

I finally decided to take three or four Omega 3 supplements a day. I was asking Ariventa what he thought about it as he is one of the smartest and nicest people on this site! I also asked my dr what he thought and he thought Id be fine taking 3-4 a day.


My regimen changed (starting 5/16/09) and I am not a happy camper

AM regimen

Wash face and chest with Kaiser 5% bp wash

Moisturize with face reality skincare cranberry cream

Apply Estee Lauder Future Perfect Eye Cream

Apply make up, blush, finishing powder, MAC moisture cover to dark underyeye circles

Pop a doxycycline

PM regimen

Remove make up with desert esscence jojoba oil using cotton balls

starting evening of May 28, 2009, I wash my face with Face Reality Skincare Sensitive Skin Gel Cleanser at night time only

Apply Differin to face and chest

Wait to dry and moisturize with face reality skincare cranberry cream

Apply Estee Lauder Future Perfect Eye Cream

Pop a doxycycline

Foundation- MAC Studio Tech Foundation in NC20 or MAC Studio Sculpt Foundation in NW15, apply a MAC blush, apply MAC prep and prime finishing powder

Anyone who has a problem zit thats having a hard time healing, try this and let me know if it helped you. Mix one tablespoon of sea salt with three tablespoons of warm water, apply to a cotton ball or a paper towel. Apply to the zit for ten to fifteen minutes, and then wash it off.


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so in a typical day i eat: 1-2 eggs, 3-5 carrots, 8-10 apples, a salad, a little bit of other vegetables, a good amt of meat (turkey and/or beef and/or ham), a slice or 2 of cheese maybe, can or 2 of progresso soup, a lemon, some other fruits, some other stuff but the previous is mostly it..all that and the vitamins and supplements i take. i've been taking a few 1000mg fish oil capsules for the last few days..when i get time (prob tmrw or the next day), i'll look everything up. but from the things listed, what do you think my ratio would be of 6/3 approx without the fish oil im currently taking

Eating 2 eggs, 3 large carrots, 8 medium apples, salad, turkey, beef & ham (sliced, luncheon) 1 can progresso minestrone, 1 can progresso chicken n rice w/veg, 1 lemon, 1 orange, 2 slices american cheese I came up with:

o3=2289.7 o6=3969.8

Not bad! But, you had better be eating Minestrone, that contributed to 1754 of your o3, an NO o6. I actually have a difficult time believing that.... :shrug:

I'm not doing this for anyone else, I was just bored.

How do you cook your eggs and meat though? Any salid dressing? This can be very misleading IF you cook at all with oils or butter and don't count them.

Well, this isn't my diet, it's AndOceans109. Basically, I checked exactly what he gave me. I assumed veggies were raw, meat and eggs were cooked. I used hard boiled eggs data for this, no salad dressing since it wasn't listed, and luncheon meat (as I indicated) since I really don't think he is cooking a ham, a turkey, and making a roast every day ;)

The nutrition data site accounts for pretty much every way you would prepare your food, raw, cooked, fried, boiled, broiled, fast food, canned... whatever you want - it's pretty much there.

xxndnromeoxx

Check your o3/o6 here: http://www.nutritiondata.com/

Bottom of fats/fatty acids section

lol thanks ayla..you should go into business looking up 3/6 ratios for people haha.. yeah 75% of the days its luncheon meat, the other 25 my mom makes a big ham turkey or beef thing 1-2 days a wk.. a little italian dressing almost every day..i've been taking 4 or 5 1g fish oil pills a day. i think thats about correct, or i might add 1 or 2 more for the hell of it

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Alright guys, end of my third week running 24-28g of fish oil. My lifts are up, not sure if anyone here cares but its the only update I got. Everything else is good, no oily skin yet. I don't think im gonna be dying any time soon so I'll stop posting updates, if anyone wants to check if im still alive some time down the line for their own peace of mind pm me =P


24-28 1g pills of fish oil since early Feb 07(approx 10g o3s)

30-35 1g pills since March 22(approx 15g)


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LMAO bber


My regimen changed (starting 5/16/09) and I am not a happy camper

AM regimen

Wash face and chest with Kaiser 5% bp wash

Moisturize with face reality skincare cranberry cream

Apply Estee Lauder Future Perfect Eye Cream

Apply make up, blush, finishing powder, MAC moisture cover to dark underyeye circles

Pop a doxycycline

PM regimen

Remove make up with desert esscence jojoba oil using cotton balls

starting evening of May 28, 2009, I wash my face with Face Reality Skincare Sensitive Skin Gel Cleanser at night time only

Apply Differin to face and chest

Wait to dry and moisturize with face reality skincare cranberry cream

Apply Estee Lauder Future Perfect Eye Cream

Pop a doxycycline

Foundation- MAC Studio Tech Foundation in NC20 or MAC Studio Sculpt Foundation in NW15, apply a MAC blush, apply MAC prep and prime finishing powder

Anyone who has a problem zit thats having a hard time healing, try this and let me know if it helped you. Mix one tablespoon of sea salt with three tablespoons of warm water, apply to a cotton ball or a paper towel. Apply to the zit for ten to fifteen minutes, and then wash it off.


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I found something that hit it right on the head

* Transport oxygen from red blood cells to the tissues

* Promote brain development

* Keep saturated fats mobile in the blood stream

* Are an anti-inflammatory (rheumatoid arthritis, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease)

* Regulate pressure in the eye, joints, and blood vessels, and mediating immune response

* Regulate bodily secretions and their viscosity

* Dilate or constricting blood vessels

* Regulate collateral circulation

* Reduces blood pressure / Dilates blood vessels

* Regulate cell division rate

* Maintain the fluidity and rigidity of cellular membranes

* Regulate the inflow and outflow of substances to and from cells

* Direct endocrine hormones to their target cells

* Maintain proper kidney function and fluid balance

* Prevent blood cells from clumping together (blood clots that can be a cause of heart attack and stroke)

* Regulate smooth muscles and autonomic reflexes

* Regulate nerve transmission and communication

* Support cardiovascular health

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/efa.htm

No wonder my oil production has lessened, and is already less thick. Awesome!!

lesson for the day, everyone needs efa's, no matter what

Cheers for that it's an interesting website and very helpful as i learn how my body works and what it needs. It may sound strange but i am finally after 9 depressing years of Acne enjoying the challange of beating it and am seeing results at last. This website is great wish i had found it a few years ago

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

one of my theorys was that acne comedos are basically your body trying to expel bad fats so you wont have a heart attack and thats all acne may be, the coagulant fats clog up your sebaceous glands forming a comedo or plug where bacteria can thrive and cause inflammation.

and that by changing the composition of your dietary fats o6/o3 would also change the composition(or viscosity) of your sebum actually making it flow smoother.

also dietary fats affect proliferation of cells.

so much more to this so read all the fish oil threads.


#1.critical nutritional issues- b12(three forms exist), Calcium(yogurt, cheese or calcium phosphate supps) and vitamin d(sun or supps not to exceed 1000 iu). heme iron-most absorbable from meat only, clams are high. these are the most difficult vitamins to get and absorb. All others or about the same in difficulty in absorption. MAgnesium in our food supply is generally low as well, try natural calm supps.

#2 Fats- monounsaturated should dominate(olives), followed by polyunsaturated plant sources(nuts) but not if you have acne. the health benefits of fish oil and fish are controversial and i dont consume them due to mercury contamination and immune supression avoid processed fats if possible.

#3 Protein/amino acids- dairy and eggs best sources for tryptophan and methionine which convert to powerful antioxidants melatonin and glutathione.

#4 Carotenoids- alpha- beta carotene, beta cryptoxanthin, lutein zeaxanthin, astaxanthin. these are vital to human nutrition, carrots, butternut squash, pumpkin, chili pepper and cayenne pepper are the best sources.

#5 Regularity-BM at least once a day, Moist, large stools, 1 piece ideal, no maldigestion, no floating stools indicative of maldigested fat. HOW- insoluble fiber- wheat and cooked vegetables. soluble fiber-oats/ good bacteria ferment soluble fiber making short chain fatty acids that inhibit pathogens.

#6 Circadian cycles-Light, get up with the sun, and expose your entire body to it. darkness-melatonin is released upon the sensing of absolute darkness. sleep in a pitch black room, try to ensure 10 hours total darkness, wear sunglasses before bed. do not eat too late at night.

#7 Desirable physiological states(positive moods/emotions) do precisely what you like and what feels good to you, but not regardless of consequences, just from a perspective that, you own your life, and can determine precisely what you do with it and need not answer or ask of permission from anyone,achieving maximum autonomy and self government.


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I found something that hit it right on the head

* Transport oxygen from red blood cells to the tissues

* Promote brain development

* Keep saturated fats mobile in the blood stream

* Are an anti-inflammatory (rheumatoid arthritis, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease)

* Regulate pressure in the eye, joints, and blood vessels, and mediating immune response

* Regulate bodily secretions and their viscosity

* Dilate or constricting blood vessels

* Regulate collateral circulation

* Reduces blood pressure / Dilates blood vessels

* Regulate cell division rate

* Maintain the fluidity and rigidity of cellular membranes

* Regulate the inflow and outflow of substances to and from cells

* Direct endocrine hormones to their target cells

* Maintain proper kidney function and fluid balance

* Prevent blood cells from clumping together (blood clots that can be a cause of heart attack and stroke)

* Regulate smooth muscles and autonomic reflexes

* Regulate nerve transmission and communication

* Support cardiovascular health

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/efa.htm

No wonder my oil production has lessened, and is already less thick. Awesome!!

lesson for the day, everyone needs efa's, no matter what

Cheers for that it's an interesting website and very helpful as i learn how my body works and what it needs. It may sound strange but i am finally after 9 depressing years of Acne enjoying the challange of beating it and am seeing results at last. This website is great wish i had found it a few years ago

Bless! I am happy it's working, I too am seeing final results, as if it's about time I can control myself. At least together we all make a difference.


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

Finally Clear! < Click link for regimen

People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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Ayla, thank you for the site! I've bookmarked it, perfect :)

AutonomousOne198... gave it to me, I'd actually been there before, but only for calorie listings. It had never even occured to me to check o3/6's there! Post what kind of a ratio your daily diet is at. Mine was 1:8, 3/6 respectively. (man that's bad!)

I'll post it when I get it tallied :) 1:8 is still a bit high, but MUCH better than 1:20 to 1:50 most people have :) Which is why I suppose we see improvement?


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

Finally Clear! < Click link for regimen

People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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1:50! omg! That's amazingly off, there has got to be something to this. I've only been taking them 1:1 for two days now, but I just SO feel that we are on to something here! Everything makes sense. Everything else (nutritionally) I've tried, I've always felt like 'oh, what the heck, maybe it'll be a miracle' But this FEELS right. Historically, people have always gathered around bodies of water, out of necessity. Transportation, FOOD, cleaning, etc., etc. Our initial diets (as humans) consisted of much more fish, the animals we did hunt down, grazed naturally. Our starches/fruits/vegetables/grains were pretty much limited to their growing seasons. Some amount was able to be stored of course, but there was much more day-to-day variety, and of course nothing 'processed.' We don't live like this anymore and, well... here we are. I'm totally rambling :lol: I'm sure you guys know all this, it's just the more I think about it, the more it all makes sense.


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1:50! omg! That's amazingly off, there has got to be something to this. I've only been taking them 1:1 for two days now, but I just SO feel that we are on to something here! Everything makes sense. Everything else (nutritionally) I've tried, I've always felt like 'oh, what the heck, maybe it'll be a miracle' But this FEELS right. Historically, people have always gathered around bodies of water, out of necessity. Transportation, FOOD, cleaning, etc., etc. Our initial diets (as humans) consisted of much more fish, the animals we did hunt down, grazed naturally. Our starches/fruits/vegetables/grains were pretty much limited to their growing seasons. Some amount was able to be stored of course, but there was much more day-to-day variety, and of course nothing 'processed.' We don't live like this anymore and, well... here we are. I'm totally rambling :lol: I'm sure you guys know all this, it's just the more I think about it, the more it all makes sense.

Yes :) Most people these days have a body that is out of wack. Long time ago, our ancestors had it down perfectly.

No no it's not rambling, you're absolutely correct!

In the mid 70's, a team of European researchers ventured off to Greenland to study the unique lifestyle of native Inuit Eskimos. They couldn't have possibly imagined how significant their findings would be. The Inuit's diet was simple and consisted primarily of fatty fish - whale, salmon, sardine, seal, and mackerel. No surprise there. What did surprise them was how unexplainably healthy they were. Healthy hearts. Clear skin. Strong joints. Positive outlooks. All this from a diet that contained ridiculous amounts of fat.

This healthy pattern of fat-fueled living bewildered researchers. That is, until the connection was made. These fatty foods were loaded with substances that the body must have in order to keep healthy - omega-3 essential fatty acids. Fast forwarding 30 years, fish oil supplements aren't just popular, they're nutritional threads that continue to weave the fabric of human wellness.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/now8.htm

:)

And this is something where you can FEEL a difference! It's almost as if when you start taking it, your body goes "I've missed you so much my beloved fish oil, let's get married right away and reap benefits to this lovely body of ours" :lol:

You get the idea :) And yes, it's amazing how our lifestyle used to be as time used to go by, much like the Inuit Eskimos, except probably not as much fish, but definitely wholesome diets, without much processed foods. In a world where drug and food companies dictate what we should and should not eat, only if people actually followed what they know they should do, they would feel as though they would never go back.

I remember eating unhealthily, never saw the point in eating healthy since I wasn't sure what benefit it would bring. Now that I eat healthy, you miss what you never know you were missing!


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

Finally Clear! < Click link for regimen

People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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Another note and observation.

I went to take a nap earlier, and just woke up. Before taking a nap I ate eggs (all egg whites and one yolk only, ACV). I took 2 capsules of fish oil instead of one. I started reading about how fats are needed to absorb fats, so I took a shot of milk, literally... 1 shot of milk with fat in it.

2 fish oil capsules literally dried up my spit, made me cotton mouthed, and literally halted my excess oil production. My face feels dry right now. But it's because I took 2 at once. I am upping it from 3 to 4 (in a day), since I read 4 is also safe.

So instead of 2 at once, it's best to take 4 split through the day instead of twice at one go. AND BE SURE TO TAKE FISH OIL WITH SOME FORM OF FAT SO IT CAN ABSORB INTO YOUR BODY :).

Oh, so the moral is don't take 2 at once if you're not used to it. You may get cotton mouth like I did :lol:

This may be just a coincidence, who knows, but I can literally feel the excess bodily secretions (saliva, sebum) shrink to nothing.

Go FISH GO!


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

Finally Clear! < Click link for regimen

People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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got my fish oil today...are yall eating say 2, 3, 4 etc morning and night or just at some point in the day? Im trying to figure out for example if I should take two in the morning, 2 in the evening or somethin like that.

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oh ok xxndnromeoxx kinda already answered my question...i guess ill go for 3 or 4 a day and spread it out. wish me luck

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Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.

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Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.

Thanks :)

I've followed that paleo diet and to me it makes sense, except that it's just a fancy way of saying "eat right" from the things we know to do today. Our bodies have adapted a bit from long time ago, but the principles are definitely the same. Eat whole foods, don't eat processed foods, and be sure you eat lots of veggies, fruits, water, oats, wheat, grains, etc =)

But when I read about what each aspect does in the big picture, backed my modern day scientific studies, it works much better in fine tuning even the older paleo diet. :dance:

Fish oil is definitely a part of it, since sea food leads to omega 3's, but in our world since we may not get enough from eating whole foods, this supplementation does about the same, minus the bad effects from fish (mercury etc).

And about your situation, I am sure that it's happening because you stopped the antibiotics, and yes, after a month or so, you'll see a difference, or should feel a difference. Because imagine this, for the past xx years we've been eating bad or normal... but to reverse the gunk, a month is almost nothing in reversing the effects all the past has done to us.

So I really do hope your diet, and omega 3 help. Also I've noticed exercise has done drastic wonders too!


Gone out of the country July 5th to August 5th

Finally Clear! < Click link for regimen

People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.

Thanks :)

I've followed that paleo diet and to me it makes sense, except that it's just a fancy way of saying "eat right" from the things we know to do today. Our bodies have adapted a bit from long time ago, but the principles are definitely the same. Eat whole foods, don't eat processed foods, and be sure you eat lots of veggies, fruits, water, oats, wheat, grains, etc =)

But when I read about what each aspect does in the big picture, backed my modern day scientific studies, it works much better in fine tuning even the older paleo diet. :dance:

Fish oil is definitely a part of it, since sea food leads to omega 3's, but in our world since we may not get enough from eating whole foods, this supplementation does about the same, minus the bad effects from fish (mercury etc).

And about your situation, I am sure that it's happening because you stopped the antibiotics, and yes, after a month or so, you'll see a difference, or should feel a difference. Because imagine this, for the past xx years we've been eating bad or normal... but to reverse the gunk, a month is almost nothing in reversing the effects all the past has done to us.

So I really do hope your diet, and omega 3 help. Also I've noticed exercise has done drastic wonders too!

Thanks for the encouragement, although the antibiotics initially helped a little, I was naive and regret them now. Yeah, I totally agree, can't really expect to undo years of bad eating and expect instant results.

One of the main principals of the paleo is to not eat grains (even whole grains) at all though. Thats what seems to drastically differ the most from most modern healthy diets. I think the jury is still out on this, but the more I read, the more it seems that our heavy reliance on grains and their high glycemic loads could be related to countless diseases today (or maybe I'm brainwashed by the paleo people!). Personally for me I just feel a lot better since I've started replacing grains with more protein and veggies. I think I'm going to stick out the paleo at least another month, but long term I'll probably also use it as a basis and not be as strict.

Regardless I'm still probably at greater fault in that I haven't got my ass in gear and done enough exercise.

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Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.

Thanks :)

I've followed that paleo diet and to me it makes sense, except that it's just a fancy way of saying "eat right" from the things we know to do today. Our bodies have adapted a bit from long time ago, but the principles are definitely the same. Eat whole foods, don't eat processed foods, and be sure you eat lots of veggies, fruits, water, oats, wheat, grains, etc =)

But when I read about what each aspect does in the big picture, backed my modern day scientific studies, it works much better in fine tuning even the older paleo diet. :dance:

Fish oil is definitely a part of it, since sea food leads to omega 3's, but in our world since we may not get enough from eating whole foods, this supplementation does about the same, minus the bad effects from fish (mercury etc).

And about your situation, I am sure that it's happening because you stopped the antibiotics, and yes, after a month or so, you'll see a difference, or should feel a difference. Because imagine this, for the past xx years we've been eating bad or normal... but to reverse the gunk, a month is almost nothing in reversing the effects all the past has done to us.

So I really do hope your diet, and omega 3 help. Also I've noticed exercise has done drastic wonders too!

Thanks for the encouragement, although the antibiotics initially helped a little, I was naive and regret them now. Yeah, I totally agree, can't really expect to undo years of bad eating and expect instant results.

One of the main principals of the paleo is to not eat grains (even whole grains) at all though. Thats what seems to drastically differ the most from most modern healthy diets. I think the jury is still out on this, but the more I read, the more it seems that our heavy reliance on grains and their high glycemic loads could be related to countless diseases today (or maybe I'm brainwashed by the paleo people!). Personally for me I just feel a lot better since I've started replacing grains with more protein and veggies. I think I'm going to stick out the paleo at least another month, but long term I'll probably also use it as a basis and not be as strict.

Regardless I'm still probably at greater fault in that I haven't got my ass in gear and done enough exercise.

Yeah don't worry. Let me tell you something I found about grains that was really interesting, well carbs in general. Bad carbs (processed carbs) turn to sugar very fast, which relates to getting insulin spikes. What that translates to is an increase in sebum production. Hence people saying don't eat refined foods, because they relate to sebum production. Good carbs don't do this since it slowly digests etc. But yeah, as long as you can stay with fresh fruits veggies and proteins you should be fine. Just remember to be balanced since our body needs these unprocessed carbs as well. But as long as you're eating healthy, and nothing processed or saturated fat, you'll be fine :).

Try exercising, reason being is it relates to hormones. It reduces testosterone levels which relate to guess what, sebum production. Regulating testosterone through cardio reduces sebum production as it goes hand in hand.

So you can pretty much see that pattern, everything we do or talk about is to reduce sebum production by being balanced. When things are out of balance, I guess we release too much sebum. Then the fish oil also reduces it, and makes it less thicker and more fluid which won't clog pores :) (yay!!)

but it seems that since you were on antibiotics, you have mild to moderate acne, if not worse? Is this true? tell me more about it?


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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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do the capsules help acne in general or just target the oil production?


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do the capsules help acne in general or just target the oil production?

Both :)

Since acne is formed from clogged pores which are generally from oil and dead skin cells, it stops oil production which stops acne (considering you also rid dead skin cells too). So yup


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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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I don't think reducing your testosterone levels is a good idea. If you find yourself crying after an episode of your favorite soap opera then you know its time to cut back on the cardio =P


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I don't think reducing your testosterone levels is a good idea. If you find yourself crying after an episode of your favorite soap opera then you know its time to cut back on the cardio =P

lol, I should have said reduced it to normal levels instead hahaha. As in regulates, instead of just reduces to the point of becoming a woman haha

I actually pictured that! :lol:

Another interesting fact, our test levels are 30% higher in the morning than at night ;]


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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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Another interesting fact, our test levels are 30% higher in the morning than at night ;]

That would explain why all my boyfriends have always been like: RAWR in the AM, moreso than the PM - if you know what I mean ;)


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Another interesting fact, our test levels are 30% higher in the morning than at night ;]

That would explain why all my boyfriends have always been like: RAWR in the AM, moreso than the PM - if you know what I mean ;)

:lol:

I was going to write something along those lines too but I just opted out for a smiley and let other people have the :idea: sign pop up above their heads :lol:


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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.

Thanks :)

I've followed that paleo diet and to me it makes sense, except that it's just a fancy way of saying "eat right" from the things we know to do today. Our bodies have adapted a bit from long time ago, but the principles are definitely the same. Eat whole foods, don't eat processed foods, and be sure you eat lots of veggies, fruits, water, oats, wheat, grains, etc =)

But when I read about what each aspect does in the big picture, backed my modern day scientific studies, it works much better in fine tuning even the older paleo diet. :dance:

Fish oil is definitely a part of it, since sea food leads to omega 3's, but in our world since we may not get enough from eating whole foods, this supplementation does about the same, minus the bad effects from fish (mercury etc).

And about your situation, I am sure that it's happening because you stopped the antibiotics, and yes, after a month or so, you'll see a difference, or should feel a difference. Because imagine this, for the past xx years we've been eating bad or normal... but to reverse the gunk, a month is almost nothing in reversing the effects all the past has done to us.

So I really do hope your diet, and omega 3 help. Also I've noticed exercise has done drastic wonders too!

Thanks for the encouragement, although the antibiotics initially helped a little, I was naive and regret them now. Yeah, I totally agree, can't really expect to undo years of bad eating and expect instant results.

One of the main principals of the paleo is to not eat grains (even whole grains) at all though. Thats what seems to drastically differ the most from most modern healthy diets. I think the jury is still out on this, but the more I read, the more it seems that our heavy reliance on grains and their high glycemic loads could be related to countless diseases today (or maybe I'm brainwashed by the paleo people!). Personally for me I just feel a lot better since I've started replacing grains with more protein and veggies. I think I'm going to stick out the paleo at least another month, but long term I'll probably also use it as a basis and not be as strict.

Regardless I'm still probably at greater fault in that I haven't got my ass in gear and done enough exercise.

Yeah don't worry. Let me tell you something I found about grains that was really interesting, well carbs in general. Bad carbs (processed carbs) turn to sugar very fast, which relates to getting insulin spikes. What that translates to is an increase in sebum production. Hence people saying don't eat refined foods, because they relate to sebum production. Good carbs don't do this since it slowly digests etc. But yeah, as long as you can stay with fresh fruits veggies and proteins you should be fine. Just remember to be balanced since our body needs these unprocessed carbs as well. But as long as you're eating healthy, and nothing processed or saturated fat, you'll be fine :).

Try exercising, reason being is it relates to hormones. It reduces testosterone levels which relate to guess what, sebum production. Regulating testosterone through cardio reduces sebum production as it goes hand in hand.

So you can pretty much see that pattern, everything we do or talk about is to reduce sebum production by being balanced. When things are out of balance, I guess we release too much sebum. Then the fish oil also reduces it, and makes it less thicker and more fluid which won't clog pores :) (yay!!)

but it seems that since you were on antibiotics, you have mild to moderate acne, if not worse? Is this true? tell me more about it?

Thanks for the info, I only knew exercise would be directly good in relation to acne in that it increases blood circulation. I didn't even realize that it helps regulate testosterone, but that seems pretty believable. I've pretty much already concluded/assumed that my hormones are a little bit out of whack in that my testosterone converts too much DHT and have been searching for solutions, so that's a pretty simple one to help! The more I learn stuff here, the more I upset I get with derms in general that they really don't explain these basics at the start; I mean they have to know this shit, it has to be basic to them.

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Hey, I don't know if you guys are already aware of it or not, but if not with the way this thread has been heading, I urge you to read up or reread about the paleo diet (the one Dan Kern even tried). Its basis of course is to just eat what hunter-gatherers have been eating for the previous 2 million years prior to the agricultural revolution. What our species evolved on. This means meat (preferably lean meats and grass-fed/free range), seafood, a ton of vegetables, fruits, and some nuts. No dairy, no grains, no sugars, no processed foods.

I've been doing this for four weeks now, my skin hasn't really noticeably improved yet. However, I also just stopped taking antibiotics as well when I started the diet so that could have flared things up alone and significant results aren't really expected until after a month since skin takes that long to cycle. However, I'm definitely feeling much better in terms of mood and its not such a rollercoaster of constantly being hungry as when I consumed a lot of grains prior. I also recently in the past few days started amping up the omega-3 supplementation.

Thanks :)

I've followed that paleo diet and to me it makes sense, except that it's just a fancy way of saying "eat right" from the things we know to do today. Our bodies have adapted a bit from long time ago, but the principles are definitely the same. Eat whole foods, don't eat processed foods, and be sure you eat lots of veggies, fruits, water, oats, wheat, grains, etc =)

But when I read about what each aspect does in the big picture, backed my modern day scientific studies, it works much better in fine tuning even the older paleo diet. :dance:

Fish oil is definitely a part of it, since sea food leads to omega 3's, but in our world since we may not get enough from eating whole foods, this supplementation does about the same, minus the bad effects from fish (mercury etc).

And about your situation, I am sure that it's happening because you stopped the antibiotics, and yes, after a month or so, you'll see a difference, or should feel a difference. Because imagine this, for the past xx years we've been eating bad or normal... but to reverse the gunk, a month is almost nothing in reversing the effects all the past has done to us.

So I really do hope your diet, and omega 3 help. Also I've noticed exercise has done drastic wonders too!

Thanks for the encouragement, although the antibiotics initially helped a little, I was naive and regret them now. Yeah, I totally agree, can't really expect to undo years of bad eating and expect instant results.

One of the main principals of the paleo is to not eat grains (even whole grains) at all though. Thats what seems to drastically differ the most from most modern healthy diets. I think the jury is still out on this, but the more I read, the more it seems that our heavy reliance on grains and their high glycemic loads could be related to countless diseases today (or maybe I'm brainwashed by the paleo people!). Personally for me I just feel a lot better since I've started replacing grains with more protein and veggies. I think I'm going to stick out the paleo at least another month, but long term I'll probably also use it as a basis and not be as strict.

Regardless I'm still probably at greater fault in that I haven't got my ass in gear and done enough exercise.

Yeah don't worry. Let me tell you something I found about grains that was really interesting, well carbs in general. Bad carbs (processed carbs) turn to sugar very fast, which relates to getting insulin spikes. What that translates to is an increase in sebum production. Hence people saying don't eat refined foods, because they relate to sebum production. Good carbs don't do this since it slowly digests etc. But yeah, as long as you can stay with fresh fruits veggies and proteins you should be fine. Just remember to be balanced since our body needs these unprocessed carbs as well. But as long as you're eating healthy, and nothing processed or saturated fat, you'll be fine :).

Try exercising, reason being is it relates to hormones. It reduces testosterone levels which relate to guess what, sebum production. Regulating testosterone through cardio reduces sebum production as it goes hand in hand.

So you can pretty much see that pattern, everything we do or talk about is to reduce sebum production by being balanced. When things are out of balance, I guess we release too much sebum. Then the fish oil also reduces it, and makes it less thicker and more fluid which won't clog pores :) (yay!!)

but it seems that since you were on antibiotics, you have mild to moderate acne, if not worse? Is this true? tell me more about it?

Thanks for the info, I only knew exercise would be directly good in relation to acne in that it increases blood circulation. I didn't even realize that it helps regulate testosterone, but that seems pretty believable. I've pretty much already concluded/assumed that my hormones are a little bit out of whack in that my testosterone converts too much DHT and have been searching for solutions, so that's a pretty simple one to help! The more I learn stuff here, the more I upset I get with derms in general that they really don't explain these basics at the start; I mean they have to know this shit, it has to be basic to them.

They all just put us on drugs or topicals. It's just a big business and I'm sick of it. There IS a cure, and the cure is not profitable, hence it's not as mainstream as people want.

I want to do something about this and make my own website or something and pretty much sum up all this, in terms of exactly what to do for external and internal purposes to stop this nonsense for mild to moderate acne sufferers. Because the dan kern regimen itself isn't enough to stop future acne, it just treats existing ones (and not too good :( )

My skin is so non oily right now that I feel like I am on accutane, it's literally weird. I don't even have excess saliva anymore, I keep drinking water, and I already drink 10-16 glasses daily naturally. I don't even have excess oil on my body anymore, it's crystal clean and no oil slicks or anything nasty either, all from a few easy steps :)


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People always think the key to fighting acne is to avoid foods, but in actually it's usually what they're NOT eating that's causing it to happen. It made no sense to start with omitting the small things that MAY cause acne for SOME people. Start with the basics of nutrition. You're a human, not an accumulation of minor problems from every person! Not everyone reacts to the same foods. Not everyone has issues with wheat and such foods. Start with the basics of good nutrition and THEN see what happens, omit foods once you feel something is not working, but don't base a diet off of what to avoid, that will make you malnourished and very depressed when you have nothing left to eat! It is true that some people have issues with some foods, but remember, try it for yourself first :)

Get to the root of the problem, because acne has a relentless and endless arsenal on the surface and it is sadistic.

Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group. Omega 3 fatty acids can also help to keep the production of androgens under control. Androgens are hormones that influence sebum production and are particularly active during adolescence, which is possibly why many teenagers suffer from acne. Androgen excess may provoke or aggravate acne by inducing seborrhea (sebum). In women, androgen disorders are frequently suspected when acne is accompanied by hirsutism or irregularities of the menstrual cycle. In men, however, acne may be the only sign of androgen excess.

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