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#1 fireball_from_iceland

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 09:08 PM

I have very hard water and I have learned that hard water and soap react to form a SCUM on you skin that cannot be removed with water. This scum essentially creates a film or layer over your skin and clogs pores... causes bacteria to grow... hence, my acne. I went weeks w/o showering and cleared up. My facial infections are not acne in the traditional sense, but caused more directly by this hard water scum. If I can prevent the scum from forming, I hope to get rid of my acne.

I've read that synthetic detergents, like Irish Sport and Dial etc are best to use w/ hard water. Apparently, they use derivatives of EDTA and Sodium Carbonate to essentially attached to the minerals in hard water and prevent them from sticking to your skin and forming the scum. About 85% of US households have hard water, so I was hoping someone else on here may have some experience in this area and be able to suggest a proper soap to use. Otherwise, I'm just going to try them all out, but that will be a hassle! So help a brother out, aight. Thanks!

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 04:09 PM

QUOTE(fireball_from_iceland @ Feb 1 2007, 09:08 PM) View Post
I have very hard water and I have learned that hard water and soap react to form a SCUM on you skin that cannot be removed with water. This scum essentially creates a film or layer over your skin and clogs pores... causes bacteria to grow... hence, my acne. I went weeks w/o showering and cleared up. My facial infections are not acne in the traditional sense, but caused more directly by this hard water scum. If I can prevent the scum from forming, I hope to get rid of my acne.

I've read that synthetic detergents, like Irish Sport and Dial etc are best to use w/ hard water. Apparently, they use derivatives of EDTA and Sodium Carbonate to essentially attached to the minerals in hard water and prevent them from sticking to your skin and forming the scum. About 85% of US households have hard water, so I was hoping someone else on here may have some experience in this area and be able to suggest a proper soap to use. Otherwise, I'm just going to try them all out, but that will be a hassle! So help a brother out, aight. Thanks!


Dial should not go on your face or your body! No soap like that at all. Use a body wash, or gentle soap like dove. Never hand soaps or soap like that in general!
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 08:29 PM

QUOTE(xxndnromeoxx @ Feb 2 2007, 05:09 PM) View Post
QUOTE(fireball_from_iceland @ Feb 1 2007, 09:08 PM) View Post
I have very hard water and I have learned that hard water

Dial should not go on your face or your body! No soap like that at all. Use a body wash, or gentle soap like dove. Never hand soaps or soap like that in general!



I switched to Dial for the past four days and so far so good. Apparently, real soap like Dove etc. is NOT good to use w/ hard water because the minerals in hard water can't bind to soap... hence, after showering you are left with a very thin film on your body called soap scum, you can sometimes see this film in the form of soap "curd" -- it kinda looks like dry skin.

In other words, using soap like dove with hard water is impossible to wash off with water because the hard water can't bind to real soap and wash it away, it usually binds with calcium first (which is already present in the water) -- the resultant soap scum clogs your pores and makes your skin itchy.

What soap to use?

Dial is not soap. It is a detergent -- an artificial soap, if you will. It has chemical additives that allow it to attach to the minerals in hard water, thus allowing the detergent to be washed off your body and preventing the development of soap scum.

Soap scum was provoking my Acne. After showering w/ Dial, I stepped out of the shower and didn't feel like I normally do -- because I wasn't covered in soap scum. So far, my acne is receding and I'm very happy.

If you are showering in hard water, I strongly suggest that you try using a artificial soap -- aka detergent. In stores, it is labeled as Deodorant Soap usually. Look at the ingredients and make sure that the first ingredient is not "soap."

Don't get a anti-bacterial soap w/ Triclosan! This is a very dangerous chemical that should not be used for bathing, or brushing your teeth (it is often included in toothpaste).

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 07:26 AM

There is a way to get rid of the hard water as well if you live in a house. I'm guessing you don't live in a large city like Toronto because large cities usually have medum water. After I moved to Barrie, the water was hard so my family bought a water softener and some other things that make the water 'soft' Plus there are some other advantages to it as well. It's not too pricey but it's not free either.

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 07:50 AM

QUOTE(royc @ Feb 4 2007, 08:26 AM) View Post
There is a way to get rid of the hard water as well if you live in a house. I'm guessing you don't live in a large city like Toronto because large cities usually have medum water. After I moved to Barrie, the water was hard so my family bought a water softener and some other things that make the water 'soft' Plus there are some other advantages to it as well. It's not too pricey but it's not free either.

yeah use a very mild cleanser

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 01:47 PM

How are you supposed to know if your water is "hard" or not?

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 02:06 PM

QUOTE(Drainer15 @ Feb 4 2007, 07:47 PM) View Post
How are you supposed to know if your water is "hard" or not?


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Posted 04 February 2007 - 03:07 PM

I can tell water is hard by the way it makes my hair feel

and you have to use more soap to get a good lather

I guess I never thought that hard water could cause acne but now that I think about it, my face breaks out when i wash it more at home rather than when i was away at college using softer water....

but Dial, honestly? Isn't it over-drying?