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I placed my order of paulas 2% BHA gel on the 12th of december and they said they'd send a tracking # within 2-3 days... i'm just wondering how long did it take you guys to get a tracking #? or did it just show up one day?

Usually I get an e-mail with the tracking number the next day after or day of the order. Paula's Choice has never been particularly fast at shipping orders; it never takes more than a week and usually takes around four-five business days. Keep in mind that Paula's Choice is probably being flooded with orders since it's the Christmas season, so things might take longer than usual. If you can tell you're running low on a product and want to reorder, allow yourself at least two weeks. This is my standard rule for any company that I order from.


My Clear Skin Maintenance Regimen

Morning

Wash with Olay Gentle Foaming Face Wash

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Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% Beta Hydroxy Acid Liquid

()

Selectively Moisturize with CeraVe Moisturizer

()

Protect with Clinique City Block Sheer Oil-Free Daily Face Protector; SPF 15

Evening

Wash with Olay Gentle Foaming Face Wash

()

Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% Beta Hydroxy Acid Liquid

()

Normalize skin cell production with Retin-A Micro 0.1% Tretinoin Gel

()

Selectively Moisturize with CeraVe Moisturizer


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is there anywhere else to buy the BHA gel for uk people? because i ordered from the eu site because i live in england and it cost me 28.60 euro which is 37.45 dollers. i ordered the BHA gel and the sample of it.


morning

johnson's head-to-toe baby wash

simple replenishing rich moisturiser

night

johnson's head-to-toe baby wash

apply some jojoba oil

started taking 7 pine's wheatgrass tablets daily

alot of spots on left cheek


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first of all this is a dope thread. What i'm wondering about is mandelic acid. I just ordered a sample from diannayvone's site and i have no clue on what to do. Should i wash my face with water and then put it on? or should i use a clenser? Mosturize? If anybody could help, please do. :D

Diana Yvonne sells the 15% Vivant mandelic acid serum. This is the most potent mandelic serum I'm aware of, so please approach it with a little caution.

Apply it with fingertips to a clean, dry face. Use just enough to cover your face with a very thin layer. After you use it, make sure you wait at least 30 minutes before moisturizing and applying sunscreen. This is very important -- you need to give the mandelic time to absorb into your skin and exfoliate the pores. Applying moisturizer too soon will block the mandelic from working properly.

I advise using it once every 2 days to begin with, until you get some sense of how your skin will react. If it seems like it's too strong for you and you see excessive peeling and drying, try washing it off after 10, 15, or 20 minutes instead of just leaving it on.

You may need to experiment for awhile to figure out what works for you.

Keep us posted!


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first of all this is a dope thread. What i'm wondering about is mandelic acid. I just ordered a sample from diannayvone's site and i have no clue on what to do. Should i wash my face with water and then put it on? or should i use a clenser? Mosturize? If anybody could help, please do. :D

Diana Yvonne sells the 15% Vivant mandelic acid serum. This is the most potent mandelic serum I'm aware of, so please approach it with a little caution.

Apply it with fingertips to a clean, dry face. Use just enough to cover your face with a very thin layer. After you use it, make sure you wait at least 30 minutes before moisturizing and applying sunscreen. This is very important -- you need to give the mandelic time to absorb into your skin and exfoliate the pores. Applying moisturizer too soon will block the mandelic from working properly.

I advise using it once every 2 days to begin with, until you get some sense of how your skin will react. If it seems like it's too strong for you and you see excessive peeling and drying, try washing it off after 10, 15, or 20 minutes instead of just leaving it on.

You may need to experiment for awhile to figure out what works for you.

Keep us posted!

I have to agree with what LionQueen says about how strong this mandelic is. I used it for awhile, but I found it too strong to use all over my face - I mostly used it around my nose to keep the pores clear. It can be very drying. It is very good at keeping pores clear, but I think this is also true of the less strong mandelic products that are out there. It has a lot of alcohol in it and has a high concentration of the mandelic acid - those together make it a pretty potent product. I would also advice against using it on inflamed acne, if you have any. It can really irritate inflamed spots.

So, definitely use with caution!!


A.M.

-Face Reality Sensitive Skin Cleansing Gel

-Finacea

-MD Formulations AOX Hydrating Gel and/or MD Formulations AOX Lotion (on drier areas)

-Mix a few drops of Niacinamide Gel with Face Reality's SPF 30 for Acne Prone Skin

P.M.

-Face Reality Silica scrub

-Derm A Gel 2 out of 3 nights, PTR Unwrinkle Peel Pads every 3rd night

-Mix Face Reality Hydrating Emulsion with Metazine Niacinamide Gel

-Face Reality's 2.8% BPO (chin only).

*Spot treat any inflamed lesions with Aczone

*Spot treat clogged pores with 8% mandelic

*Diet: Vitamin C and zinc supplements, avoid dairy, avoid iodine, mimimize sugar and salt, avoid peanuts

I also get facials at Face Reality Acne and Skin Care Clinic every 4-6 wks.

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http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...1620&st=460


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is there anywhere else to buy the BHA gel for uk people? because i ordered from the eu site because i live in england and it cost me 28.60 euro which is 37.45 dollers. i ordered the BHA gel and the sample of it.

I suggest contacting Paula's Choice customer service about this; they'll probably be able to help you a lot better than I can.


My Clear Skin Maintenance Regimen

Morning

Wash with Olay Gentle Foaming Face Wash

()

Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% Beta Hydroxy Acid Liquid

()

Selectively Moisturize with CeraVe Moisturizer

()

Protect with Clinique City Block Sheer Oil-Free Daily Face Protector; SPF 15

Evening

Wash with Olay Gentle Foaming Face Wash

()

Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% Beta Hydroxy Acid Liquid

()

Normalize skin cell production with Retin-A Micro 0.1% Tretinoin Gel

()

Selectively Moisturize with CeraVe Moisturizer


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It looks like some of the whiteheads are making a come back. I am VERY worried and disappointed and I'm kicking myself because I think it has to do with the fact that I stopped using the Diacneal cream after the whiteheads were gone. Most of them turned into pimples and when there only a few whiteheads left I had them removed. Now I see 3-4 new ones and I'm freaking out because I don't want to go through all of this again.

What should I do? If I put Diacneal on the ones I have I will breakout possibly and I'm leaving for Cuba this weekend. Should I put the cream everywhere else and will this help prevent new ones from forming or just make things worse? My facialist gave me collagen gel to put on my prone areas...could this be the culprit it seemed to help with the redmarks)?

I'm scared to put anything on my face now...What should I do?

Thanks in advance...


My current regimen:

AM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Moisturize with Complex 15 only on dry areas

PM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% BHA gel (only 3x a week)

Diacneal

Tricyclen BCP

*Advil daily one week prior to menstruation

*drink lots of water all througout the day and stay away from pop.

*use mainly mineral makeup

NOTE: I totally stopped using BP as a spot treatment because it just dries the pimple out TOO much and the skin around it. The flakes end up looking worse than the pimple and it's impossible to cover. Plus it leaves a mark.


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It looks like some of the whiteheads are making a come back. I am VERY worried and disappointed and I'm kicking myself because I think it has to do with the fact that I stopped using the Diacneal cream after the whiteheads were gone. Most of them turned into pimples and when there only a few whiteheads left I had them removed. Now I see 3-4 new ones and I'm freaking out because I don't want to go through all of this again.

What should I do? If I put Diacneal on the ones I have I will breakout possibly and I'm leaving for Cuba this weekend. Should I put the cream everywhere else and will this help prevent new ones from forming or just make things worse? My facialist gave me collagen gel to put on my prone areas...could this be the culprit it seemed to help with the redmarks)?

I'm scared to put anything on my face now...What should I do?

Thanks in advance...

I'd stick with the Diacneal, as I said before .... it really makes no sense to keep starting and stopping regimens. You have to pick something and stay with it.

Can you get the new whiteheads extracted before you leave?


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It looks like some of the whiteheads are making a come back. I am VERY worried and disappointed and I'm kicking myself because I think it has to do with the fact that I stopped using the Diacneal cream after the whiteheads were gone. Most of them turned into pimples and when there only a few whiteheads left I had them removed. Now I see 3-4 new ones and I'm freaking out because I don't want to go through all of this again.

What should I do? If I put Diacneal on the ones I have I will breakout possibly and I'm leaving for Cuba this weekend. Should I put the cream everywhere else and will this help prevent new ones from forming or just make things worse? My facialist gave me collagen gel to put on my prone areas...could this be the culprit it seemed to help with the redmarks)?

I'm scared to put anything on my face now...What should I do?

Thanks in advance...

I'd stick with the Diacneal, as I said before .... it really makes no sense to keep starting and stopping regimens. You have to pick something and stay with it.

Can you get the new whiteheads extracted before you leave?

Actually I just got off the phone with my facialist...she's going to extract them for me before I leave (thank goodness). She said it's not surprising that some came back and that a facial can really bring a lot to the surface and that it takes 28 days for your skin to renew etc etc...SO - I'm going back to her on thursday; she's not giving me a full facial again just a clean-up basically with a few extractions and I should be good to go. I think when I get back I'll begin again with the diacneal and see if it keeps them at bay. I really don't want to have to go back to her every couple of weeks to get them removed, that would get lil expensive (not to mention it HURTS!).

Btw what is your opinion about the collagen gel? Should I keep using it?

Thank you:)


My current regimen:

AM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Moisturize with Complex 15 only on dry areas

PM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% BHA gel (only 3x a week)

Diacneal

Tricyclen BCP

*Advil daily one week prior to menstruation

*drink lots of water all througout the day and stay away from pop.

*use mainly mineral makeup

NOTE: I totally stopped using BP as a spot treatment because it just dries the pimple out TOO much and the skin around it. The flakes end up looking worse than the pimple and it's impossible to cover. Plus it leaves a mark.


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Btw what is your opinion about the collagen gel? Should I keep using it?

Thank you:)

I'm honestly not sure. I was hoping Snow Queen might weigh in here. :D

Without knowing anything about this specific product or how it is formulated, my instinct is to say: don't use it. I've learned that with acne-prone skin, especially if you are using retinoids, less is more! If you aren't absolutely certain that a product is helping (and not clogging your pores) --- then don't take the risk.

Also, I have the impression that collagen isn't an efficient topical, though I could be wrong there.

Anyway ....... I am kinda talking through my hat here, because I don't know this product. Can you provide a list of ingredients? That would at least give us a starting point.

Anyone else have any thoughts?


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Ordered my BHA on the 12th... still havent received a tracking order (now the 18th). It says it normally takes 2-3 days, but I'm not sure whats happening. I'll e-mail them tomorrow if I still havent heard anything.

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Btw what is your opinion about the collagen gel? Should I keep using it?

Thank you:)

I'm honestly not sure. I was hoping Snow Queen might weigh in here. :D

Without knowing anything about this specific product or how it is formulated, my instinct is to say: don't use it. I've learned that with acne-prone skin, especially if you are using retinoids, less is more! If you aren't absolutely certain that a product is helping (and not clogging your pores) --- then don't take the risk.

Also, I have the impression that collagen isn't an efficient topical, though I could be wrong there.

Anyway ....... I am kinda talking through my hat here, because I don't know this product. Can you provide a list of ingredients? That would at least give us a starting point.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

I feel uncomfortable recommending the use or avoidance of a product without seeing an ingredients list. According to Paula Begoun (a cosmetics researcher) topically applied collagen "has never been shown to have a direct effect on producing or building collagen in skin." Paula says that topically applied collagen is a good waterbinding agent, which means that it helps the skin retain water, but that likely will have no impact at all in your acne.

I'm wondering if your esthetician recommended a collagen gel because MMP-1, an enzyme responsible for the destruction of collagen, is found in sebum and has been theroized as being a cause of acne. For whatever she recommended it for, it is likely a waste of time and money.

Other than that, LionQueen's pretty much said it all. There's no use layering on products when you're not even sure what those products do or what you need them for.

An ingredients list would help; at least we could check to see if there are any ingredients that might be making your breakouts worse.


My Clear Skin Maintenance Regimen

Morning

Wash with Olay Gentle Foaming Face Wash

()

Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% Beta Hydroxy Acid Liquid

()

Selectively Moisturize with CeraVe Moisturizer

()

Protect with Clinique City Block Sheer Oil-Free Daily Face Protector; SPF 15

Evening

Wash with Olay Gentle Foaming Face Wash

()

Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% Beta Hydroxy Acid Liquid

()

Normalize skin cell production with Retin-A Micro 0.1% Tretinoin Gel

()

Selectively Moisturize with CeraVe Moisturizer


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Btw what is your opinion about the collagen gel? Should I keep using it?

Thank you:)

I'm honestly not sure. I was hoping Snow Queen might weigh in here. :D

Without knowing anything about this specific product or how it is formulated, my instinct is to say: don't use it. I've learned that with acne-prone skin, especially if you are using retinoids, less is more! If you aren't absolutely certain that a product is helping (and not clogging your pores) --- then don't take the risk.

Also, I have the impression that collagen isn't an efficient topical, though I could be wrong there.

Anyway ....... I am kinda talking through my hat here, because I don't know this product. Can you provide a list of ingredients? That would at least give us a starting point.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

I feel uncomfortable recommending the use or avoidance of a product without seeing an ingredients list. According to Paula Begoun (a cosmetics researcher) topically applied collagen "has never been shown to have a direct effect on producing or building collagen in skin." Paula says that topically applied collagen is a good waterbinding agent, which means that it helps the skin retain water, but that likely will have no impact at all in your acne.

I'm wondering if your esthetician recommended a collagen gel because MMP-1, an enzyme responsible for the destruction of collagen, is found in sebum and has been theroized as being a cause of acne. For whatever she recommended it for, it is likely a waste of time and money.

Other than that, LionQueen's pretty much said it all. There's no use layering on products when you're not even sure what those products do or what you need them for.

An ingredients list would help; at least we could check to see if there are any ingredients that might be making your breakouts worse.

Thanks for all of your help...the whiteheads are really coming back. Everyday there are new ones appearing and it's been less than a week since I had them all removed. I'm starting to get nervous now, and wondering if this is something that I will have to deal with for the rest of my life.

LionQueen - once you got rid of most of your whiteheads, did they stop appearing soon after continue to use the treatment? In other words, once I have these ones extracted (again) if I go back to Dianceal, should they stop appearing or does it take another few months for that to happen? How successful have you been in preventing more from showing up?

Thanks again.


My current regimen:

AM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Moisturize with Complex 15 only on dry areas

PM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% BHA gel (only 3x a week)

Diacneal

Tricyclen BCP

*Advil daily one week prior to menstruation

*drink lots of water all througout the day and stay away from pop.

*use mainly mineral makeup

NOTE: I totally stopped using BP as a spot treatment because it just dries the pimple out TOO much and the skin around it. The flakes end up looking worse than the pimple and it's impossible to cover. Plus it leaves a mark.


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LionQueen - once you got rid of most of your whiteheads, did they stop appearing soon after continue to use the treatment? In other words, once I have these ones extracted (again) if I go back to Dianceal, should they stop appearing or does it take another few months for that to happen? How successful have you been in preventing more from showing up?

I've been using Green Cream for a year now ... and the whiteheads were entirely gone by the end of 12 weeks. But I knew they would come back if I quit using GC, which is one reason why I've continued with it.

I very rarely get whiteheads or blackheads any more. My pores still get congested -- that's why I use the BHAs -- but actual comedones are few and far between. Occasionally (usually while traveling) I'll get a patch of tiny bumps, but if I ignore them and continue with the topicals, they go away.

Like I said before ... for this type of acne, I think you have to pick a treatment and stick with it. Don't assume you're cured when one batch of whiteheads is gone; keep using the Diacneal (or whatever) as maintenance.

Also, if you are interested, I really recommend the Paula's Choice BHAs. I layer them under the Green Cream at night, and it turns out they actually help the retinol penetrate more deeply into the skin. I'm loving the effects.


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LionQueen - once you got rid of most of your whiteheads, did they stop appearing soon after continue to use the treatment? In other words, once I have these ones extracted (again) if I go back to Dianceal, should they stop appearing or does it take another few months for that to happen? How successful have you been in preventing more from showing up?

I've been using Green Cream for a year now ... and the whiteheads were entirely gone by the end of 12 weeks. But I knew they would come back if I quit using GC, which is one reason why I've continued with it.

I very rarely get whiteheads or blackheads any more. My pores still get congested -- that's why I use the BHAs -- but actual comedones are few and far between. Occasionally (usually while traveling) I'll get a patch of tiny bumps, but if I ignore them and continue with the topicals, they go away.

Like I said before ... for this type of acne, I think you have to pick a treatment and stick with it. Don't assume you're cured when one batch of whiteheads is gone; keep using the Diacneal (or whatever) as maintenance.

Also, if you are interested, I really recommend the Paula's Choice BHAs. I layer them under the Green Cream at night, and it turns out they actually help the retinol penetrate more deeply into the skin. I'm loving the effects.

Thank you, I really appreciate all of the help you've given me in trying to figure this thing out. I will get the new ones removed and begin using the Diacneal immediately after. Or should I wait until I return from Cuba? I guess if I start using Diacneal in Cuba I should really make sure I use it only in the evenings since I think I'm supposed to stay out of the sun when using this.

I will also buy the Paula's Choice as soon as I get back. I want to be rid of these FOREVER, it has really taken it's toll on me.


My current regimen:

AM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Moisturize with Complex 15 only on dry areas

PM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% BHA gel (only 3x a week)

Diacneal

Tricyclen BCP

*Advil daily one week prior to menstruation

*drink lots of water all througout the day and stay away from pop.

*use mainly mineral makeup

NOTE: I totally stopped using BP as a spot treatment because it just dries the pimple out TOO much and the skin around it. The flakes end up looking worse than the pimple and it's impossible to cover. Plus it leaves a mark.


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Thank you, I really appreciate all of the help you've given me in trying to figure this thing out. I will get the new ones removed and begin using the Diacneal immediately after. Or should I wait until I return from Cuba? I guess if I start using Diacneal in Cuba I should really make sure I use it only in the evenings since I think I'm supposed to stay out of the sun when using this.

I would go back on the Diacneal immediately. Use it at night ... wear your sunscreen during the day ... and have a wonderful trip. :D


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Thank you, I really appreciate all of the help you've given me in trying to figure this thing out. I will get the new ones removed and begin using the Diacneal immediately after. Or should I wait until I return from Cuba? I guess if I start using Diacneal in Cuba I should really make sure I use it only in the evenings since I think I'm supposed to stay out of the sun when using this.

I would go back on the Diacneal immediately. Use it at night ... wear your sunscreen during the day ... and have a wonderful trip. :D

Thank you.

Last question: What is the exact product from Paula's Choice that you are using (or the one you would recommend I use)? And do you use it all over your face or just the affected areas? Also is there any purging in result of using this product? Do you use it morning and night? I guess I should apply it under the Diacneal as well?

Thanks again.


My current regimen:

AM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Moisturize with Complex 15 only on dry areas

PM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% BHA gel (only 3x a week)

Diacneal

Tricyclen BCP

*Advil daily one week prior to menstruation

*drink lots of water all througout the day and stay away from pop.

*use mainly mineral makeup

NOTE: I totally stopped using BP as a spot treatment because it just dries the pimple out TOO much and the skin around it. The flakes end up looking worse than the pimple and it's impossible to cover. Plus it leaves a mark.


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Last question: What is the exact product from Paula's Choice that you are using (or the one you would recommend I use)? And do you use it all over your face or just the affected areas? Also is there any purging in result of using this product? Do you use it morning and night? I guess I should apply it under the Diacneal as well?

I use the Paula's Choice 2% BHA gel. I believe Snow Queen prefers the 2% BHA liquid. You might go for some samples before committing to a full-size product. There are also 1% BHA products for sensitive skin, but I didn't find them very effective.

I did get some small pimples on my nose and chin in the first couple of weeks on this product, and that could have been due to purging ... the BHAs do exfoliate deep inside the pores. But it wasn't a bad breakout and didn't last long. I'm super-clear right now.

I apply the BHAs right after cleansing at night, wait 30 minutes, then apply Green Cream.

I think Snow Queen uses the liquid twice a day? check her regimen in her signature ....


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Last question: What is the exact product from Paula's Choice that you are using (or the one you would recommend I use)? And do you use it all over your face or just the affected areas? Also is there any purging in result of using this product? Do you use it morning and night? I guess I should apply it under the Diacneal as well?

I use the Paula's Choice 2% BHA gel. I believe Snow Queen prefers the 2% BHA liquid. You might go for some samples before committing to a full-size product. There are also 1% BHA products for sensitive skin, but I didn't find them very effective.

I did get some small pimples on my nose and chin in the first couple of weeks on this product, and that could have been due to purging ... the BHAs do exfoliate deep inside the pores. But it wasn't a bad breakout and didn't last long. I'm super-clear right now.

I apply the BHAs right after cleansing at night, wait 30 minutes, then apply Green Cream.

I think Snow Queen uses the liquid twice a day? check her regimen in her signature ....

Thanks AGAIN:)


My current regimen:

AM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Moisturize with Complex 15 only on dry areas

PM

Cleanse with Avene Cleanance

Exfoliate with Paula's Choice 2% BHA gel (only 3x a week)

Diacneal

Tricyclen BCP

*Advil daily one week prior to menstruation

*drink lots of water all througout the day and stay away from pop.

*use mainly mineral makeup

NOTE: I totally stopped using BP as a spot treatment because it just dries the pimple out TOO much and the skin around it. The flakes end up looking worse than the pimple and it's impossible to cover. Plus it leaves a mark.


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My blackheads are everywhere. On my nose now I am getting little dents in my skin, where blackheads have been removed. Thing is the skin on my nose is really thin, sensitive and easily dried. So part of me wants to keep away from these acids. Will a low Retin-A or diluted lemon juice make my skin more sensitive and how can I combat this? What about Apple Cider Vinegar?

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My blackheads are everywhere. On my nose now I am getting little dents in my skin, where blackheads have been removed. Thing is the skin on my nose is really thin, sensitive and easily dried. So part of me wants to keep away from these acids. Will a low Retin-A or diluted lemon juice make my skin more sensitive and how can I combat this? What about Apple Cider Vinegar?

Lemon juice = citric acid

ACV = ascorbic acid

Retin A = retinoic acid

So you see, it's hard to keep away from acids. :)

Seriously, I'd try the Paula's Choice BHAs if I were you. I haven't found the 2% gel to be drying at all, and it is super effective. Get some samples and see which one you like best .... maybe the lotion formulation would be a better one for you.


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i was talking to someone from live support at getthatglow.com and they said it will cost $5.25 to ship to england...shame i bought it from paula's choice eu :( but next time!


morning

johnson's head-to-toe baby wash

simple replenishing rich moisturiser

night

johnson's head-to-toe baby wash

apply some jojoba oil

started taking 7 pine's wheatgrass tablets daily

alot of spots on left cheek


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should one expect any improvement if we're only using the 1-2 week green cream samples? =/

and I'm a tad bit confused again... we CAN use the BHAs with BP, right? but not green cream + BP? (at the same time) because BP keeps my inflammation down better/faster than the retinoid... but then I have nothing to keep the bumps from appearing, lol. I only ordered GC samples enough for 2-3 weeks, but I have a huge bottle of BHA 2% coming! I don't need BOTH to stay on your regime/reccomendations, right? GC is so expensive and I don't know if it's working because I only have enough for such a short period of time, lol... @_@

also! (haha, sorry for all the questions!) how do you know if your skin is purging? my skin looks worse than usual actually... and I've only been on GC 3% for three days... is it because of the lack of BP or the GC? (I didn't think 3% would affect my skin that much!)

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