Posted 07 May 2007 - 11:10 AM
The dichroics they ship do emit some 405-420nm, but not a lot. And the dichroics do apparently work; a few people here have reported good results- my suspicion is that it's not due to the small amount of 405-420 nm they emit though it might be they're doing the same as the red bulbs and giving an anti-inflammatory effect.
Posted 07 May 2007 - 11:32 AM
Posted 13 May 2007 - 06:25 PM
I have had extensive conversations with EnLux the manufacturer and the provider of the bulbs to SciArt.
They do not contain the wavelengths they specified on their website. the lowest the blue goes is about 463 and the red is way off... but i hear that the red wl doesnt matter as much as the blue.
SciArt has told me about testimonials they have recieved from people with the 470nm bulbs... people say it is working... but I just dont buy the hype... there could be a million reasons why the bulbs are working... maybe the person is still using BP or switched cleansers.... maybe they are spending more time in the sun b/c it is nice out. Dont buy into the hype. I doubt a 470nm LED bulb has much effect at all.
I just spoke with the owner of SciArt last week.... well, to be more precise... she called me.
Needless to say.... the 415nm lights.... i am supposed to have within a week.
I recommend holding off on buying any SciArt stuff for now. Let me get the new bulbs in... I'll create a new thread... you can check my progress... then make your own decision.
MidDay: 1. Dermalogica Pre-Cleanse 2. Cetaphil Cleanser 3. Skinceuticals Phyto + 4. MD Forte Replenish Hydrating Cream Entire Face 5. 16 Minutes Blue and Red Light Treatment.
Night: 1. Cosmedicine Healthy Cleanse Foaming Cleanser & Toner In One 2. Retin-A micro 3. Phyto + 4. MD Forte Replenish Hydrating Cream Entire Face
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:40 PM
I've never posted before but this topic caught my eye because last year I built myself an LED array from LEDs measured to reach 420 nm.
The reason I built one was after I read the British Journal of Dermatology study on blue light therapy I went to a dermatologist. For $500 I had ten, 16 minute sessions in front of a glorified tanning lamp. I felt there was improvement but it seemed ridiculous to me to keep spending that kind of money when I could surely build my own. First I looked into converting an old tanning lamp with bulbs of the right wavelength(apparently there are some reptile heat lamps that light to 420 nm) but then I learned some companies were making LED devices. However not all of them stated the wavelength measurements and some stated readings of 470 nm, not 420 nm as the study indicated (I noticed HHughes posts about such devices).
So I found a distributor of 420 nm LEDs in the US and made an array of 100 LEDs to start. The color of the light is actually called "violet" by the manufacturer, rather than blue, and although I wear eye protection I think I need to enlarge the array to get more candlepower/lumens going.
Does anyone know what the luminous intensity, in candlepower or lumens, of the device that the researchers who published the study in the Brit. Journal of Derm. used? (My copy of the study is packed away for now which is why I'm asking.)
Thanks for your attention.
Posted 17 May 2007 - 10:47 PM
Thanks for your attention.
They used 320J/cm^2 total energy over 3 months@15 minutes a day. It's easy enough to work that out in W. IRC it was about 4mW.
Don't know what that would be in lumens. There's a messy equation, but it's too sensitive to conditions to get an accurate answer.
Posted 26 May 2007 - 06:48 PM
I have emailed a few times to suggest these but as yet haven't heard back
Posted 30 May 2007 - 09:13 AM
Bright and Early
1.) BP 2.5% Scrub
2.) Ice Pack
3.) Salicylic Toner
4.) Glycolic Acid Serum
5.) SPF 30 Sunscreen
Late and Horny
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2.) Ice Pack
3.) Salicylic Toner
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Posted 18 June 2007 - 01:23 AM
Posted 19 July 2007 - 11:36 AM
(i also used lime on my face yesterday so i cant tell what did it lol)
Should i be using the blue light then the red light, or is just the blue okay? (as ive read blue is more for acne and red is more for aging).
Posted 08 August 2007 - 12:05 AM
It looks like the lamp comes 6 red bulbs and 6 blue bulbs. Does this mean I should alternate red, blue and get a mixture of the two colors, and use for 10-15 minutes per day?
I was considering getting the PDT at a dermatologist, and he told me that after the set of 4 treatments, many people go without breakouts for a long period of time, say even a few years. Is this possible? Or is that bogus? Because from what I read on using these lights at home, you have to continue treatment just like with BPO or other topicals. If it's bogus, then I would definitely go with the home lights instead of paying over $2k at the derm.
And how effective are the lights at fading scars? As effective as AHA or hydroquinone? I was considering the laser treatment in conjunction with the PDT, but it''s more than $1k extra.
And are the lights just as effective at minimizing oiliness, pore size, refining texture like my derm claimed his PDT therapy would be? The PDT he offered was used with Levulan, which supposedly "activates" the light to target the bacteria in the skin. Is there something similar I would need to put on my skin to help with the home light therapy? Or is that a myth?
Sorry, I have so many questions! Thanks!
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Neutrogena Pore Refining Toner
Dan Kern's 2.5% BPO
L'Oreal Genesis SPF 15 moisturizer
Biore Pore Minimizing Cleanser or Cetaphil Cleanser for Oily Skin
BPO scrub (custom made from Aesthetician)
Peter Thomas Roth Sulfur Cooling Mask twice a week - leave on for 45 minutes
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Bare Escentuals Bare Minerals Foundation in Medium Beige #2.5 + Mineral Veil
Dermacia Lycogel MD SPF 30 in Beige #4
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One a Day multivitamin for women
Costco Kirkland Signature Enteric Coated Fish Oil 600 mg softgels - 2 per day
Posted 10 August 2007 - 05:03 AM
This is a quote from one of those sources:
"Does Blue Light Treatment work for everyone?
Blue light treatment has been shown to be very effective in treating mild to moderate cases, but it is not 100% effective for everyone. The majority of test subjects have shown a drastic decrease in acne over the period of a few weeks. A small number of people have little or no response to blue light treatment, and people with the most severe type of acne, nodules, can actually get worse. Nodules are large swelled cyst-like acne that are usually painful to the touch and take considerable time to go away. Although some people get nodules naturally, you can also get them from popping pimples and zits improperly, causing the infection to go deeper into the skin. So try to resist the temptation and give any treatment you try a chance to work."
And a short one from another website:
".......Compared with pretreatment, nodulocystic lesions tended to worsen despite treatment......"
Posted 15 August 2007 - 02:10 AM
Posted 23 August 2007 - 05:34 PM
Also, if so, how long did it take for you to notice a change? (few treatments, weeks, months, etc.)
Posted 28 August 2007 - 02:59 AM
I may buy this one it's the cheapest i've seen and lots of people have been buying from this seller with Positive Reviews.
Although the Product is Made in China the cost is $69 and includes Free Shipping anywhere around the World
Posted 28 August 2007 - 03:37 AM
Posted 01 September 2007 - 02:15 PM
Posted 01 September 2007 - 10:07 PM
Anyway I just saw the Tanda Selling at my local highend department store and had to splurge out the money on buying it. I'll let you all know the reviews in a month or so.....
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Posted 13 September 2007 - 05:41 PM
this site is mainly on the hollistic forum bp and prescription meds but why arnt that much memebers using the light?
Posted 14 September 2007 - 04:43 PM