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  1. Skincare after TCA cross

    Hello everyone. I've been using TCA 25% peels for a while now with very good results. I've decided to try TCA cross on my scared pores and ice-pick scars. Yesterday scabs fell off and my scars are deeper - I read it's normal and should look better after few weeks. My question is: how should I treat my skin during those weeks when collagen production should do its job? I use Clarisonic daily or almost daily and I wonder - should I stop? (I don't want to make scars even deeper or somehow interrupt the process)
  2. I did the TCA cross (100%) on the 1st of February. All of the scabs are now off. It seems the best results are from the spots that the scabs remained on the longest. Three of them stayed on until the past couple of days, and they are almost level with the rest of my face already. I have some improvement with some of the others, some not so much. I am going to Cross again mid-March. I had quite a bit of redness in the scars when the scabs came off, but they have faded rather well. Is there a way to keep the scabs from coming off early? I would like them to stay on as long as possible. I wonder if I should wear bandages at night when I go to bed to keep them from rubbing on the pillow, and to keep me from scratching in my sleep (if I was). I am going to take "before" pictures before my next Cross. I am insecure about my face, obviously, but I will take pics through the next session and post them here. What is the best thing to put on after? I did the antibiotic ointment for the first 3 days then switched to copper peptides. Last week I bought the LaRoche-Posay Ciciplast and it seemed to take the redness away quicker. Any help is greatly appreciated!
  3. Today marks Day 30 after my subcision and TCA Cross Method treatments. I was really inspired by the photos that Tamara Madden and another Acne.org subscriber had posted on the web and wanted to see if subcision would work for me. I've attached their websites below: http://www.tamaramadden.com/Subcision/Subcision.htm http://www.geocities.com/mgargi2002/day6.html Here is a very brief overview of my journey with acne scar revision. I first developed cystic acne when I was in the eighth grade. By my senior year, I had several cysts on my right cheek which collapsed and left a rather large crater. My cystic acne really flared up in college and it was then that I went to a dermatologist for the first time and was placed on antibiotics. My acne stayed under control with antibiotics and topical creams (Retin-A and Benzol Peroxide) for several years. However, I kept getting cysts and decided to go on Acctuane. My skin EXPLODED with cystic acne lesions all over my face which left me with considerable scarring that I had not had before taking Accuntane. The good news, however, is that I never had another cystic lesion on my face after taking Accutane. Over the years, I've tried Glycolic and Lactic Acid Peels, Cryotheraphy, etc. to help diminish my scars. After reading about subcision on this website, I decided to talk to my dermatologist about it. He agreed to do the procedure on me along with the TCA Cross Method on March 16, 2009. Quite honestly, I am really glad that I had the procedure done. I took a week off of work and had some bruising and swelling, but no complications whatsoever. I decided to take tons of pictures to help document the process and help others learn more about it. Right Cheek (Pre-Subcision) Right Cheek (30 Days Post-Subcision) Some flattening of the rolling scars, but will need more subcision treatments. Left Cheek (Pre-Subcision) Left Cheek (30 Days Post-Subcision) Dramatic improvement over the baseline photo. Many of the "creases" and fine lines have disappeared in this photo. This photo kind of scares me......Acne scarring combined with aging is not a pretty site. The lighting is not quite the same, but the overall appearance of my scars has diminished. The reflection of the "man in the mirror" has definitely changed for the better and for that I am truly grateful. I recently went to get my haircut by a friend in a city nearby whom I had not seen in six years and had always "cringed" when I saw myself in the mirror due to the harsh lighting in there. This time, I kept looking at myself and saying, "Is that really me?" The man in the mirror that I was now seeing wasn't the same one I had seen in the past. The man I was seeing had smoother and healthier looking skin. As I mentioned above, I plan going for at least two more rounds of subcision followed by Pearl Laser in December of this year. I am not aiming for perfection as I know that is not truly attainable. As my photos show, I have seen incremental improvement and I will take any improvement that I can possibly get. I want to encourage ALL of you out there who have suffered from acne scars to do your research online, ask lots of questions, and find a competent and compassionate doctor who can help you. I have just ordered an LED light and hope to have it before my next round of subcision in May. Best wishes to you on YOUR journey to healing..... P.S. I have a blog on this website that will give you a good idea of what to expect if you decide that subcision is the right treatment for you.
  4. tca cross w professor chu

    checking in here as i inadvertantly posted misleading information in another thread. i had tca cross done by professor chu at hammersmith hospital 17 days ago now. early on i thought i had made remarkable progress, especially on the main scar (narrow boxcar on the tip of the nose). turned out that some of the '85%' fill-in i mentioned was actually the scab, which hung on in there for 16 days (without being really visible). fell off yesterday leaving the same indent- but happily, there is definite progress, i would say maybe 30%. the scar may be a little wider (i was warned this could happen) but certainly flatter, and the edges seem less sharp. so all in all im pleased. the downtime for this procedure is a drag - i peeled a lot- but worth it to me. with luck i should see further collagenisation in the coming weeks, and i have another visit scheduled for early january. i do feel confident that this will get me the results i want, but just wanted to warn that it takes commitment and that those who see instant results seem to be very much the exception. best wishes
  5. Hello Everyone! After reading through a LOT of information on this board, and even bookmarking a few posts for easy reference, I have decided to join the site. I can't seem to find what I am looking for and am hoping one of you knowledgeable people can help me! I recently purchased TCA 100% for Cross and TCA 15% for peeling (it is a kit). I have been using mandelic acid cleanser, toner and serum as a pre peel regimen to help see better results with the peel. I have watched videos and read a lot and feel very informed on both procedures so that I can do them safely. I did TCA Cross on two scars 12 days ago and have seen some improvement. I will Cross them again in a few weeks along with other scars, now that I know I can do this safely and not do further damage to my skin. Here is my question: How do I go about doing Cross and Peels together? I can't find information on that, other than one post and it didn't make sense to me. Can I apply my 15% TCA Peel, neutralize and cleanse and then do my TCA 100% with my toothpick on the individual scars? I am thinking this would be a no-no because the peeling of the 15% solution will pull off the scabs from the TCA 100% prematurely. Should I do them separately then? If so, which should I do first? How long should I wait between each procedure? Background: 46 year old female, small hormonal pimples along my jaw and on my neck with my cycle which is much better (nearly gone) with the mandelic acid, fair skin, left cheek ice pick scars and boxcar scars, right cheek three small scars, one scar on chin. I think they look worse to me than they really are, but I would like to improve my skin. Love this site! So great to read success stories and see people trying to help each other!! Catherine
  6. 1) did it always leave yours scars looking worse/deeper/wider/more intense than they looked pre-procedure? 2) If it did initially look worse, what happened several weeks to several months out? 3) Was the treatment successful for you (i.e., state the percentage improvement you obtained)? 4) If your scars did improve, a) what kind of scars did you have and were they mild, moderate or severe, b) how many sessions did it take to achieve those results? 5) Finally, did you DIY or have it professionally done? Thanks so much in advance for your response.
  7. Has anyone tried this method of TCA cross? Think this works better than other methods (ex. using a toothpick)? For the DIYs what method do you use? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxJMnWYV2mE What size (gauge) needle do you think this is? Perhaps smaller would be better/safer (especially for scarred pores). Any amazon links? Thanks!
  8. Hi All, I need some advice and opinions. Four months ago i had subcision and TCA cross. The results for the most part have been satisfying. I have a combination of ice pick and boxcar scars on my temples. Friday i am supposed to go have my second treatment of TCA cross. What do you guys think of the results so far after one treatment? To me, they seem to have filled up after they expanded. The redness really does concern me. Do you guys think i should go for this next treatment?
  9. Hi all, I did it! I finally went ahead to get a prescription for epiduo! My skin has improved a lot over the years (from 2011) and dairy is the culprit from what I know. However, due to all the acne, my skin texture is all bumpy now and I do suffer from rolling and boxcar scars. Also, gluten seems to be play a role as well but it never used to affect me before. I noticed all the itchiness once my breakouts became really severe in around 2012, I would say. Any opinion on this? The main point of this post is to ask if anyone has done a tca peel (12.5%, I am a first-timer) while on epiduo AND starting on birth control (estelle) in the same week. I was going to start on epiduo tonight but I had already planned to do a tca peel on Friday (23rd Dec) and my period is estimated to start on Saturday (24th Dec). I am fine with putting off the usage of epiduo until the second week of Jan as I do believe my skin should have healed sufficiently by then. Just wondering if thi is a good plan. Can anyone enlighten me on whether epiduo improves skin texture? And also, whether doing 1 12.5% tca peel would improve my skin texture. That's my main concern as applying makeup is horrible and has been horrible for the past few years. Many thanks to anyone who help me out in this!
  10. Good day everyone! I'm back on tack. I used to visit this site, maybe a year ago or 2. I have a nose scar on thel eft side of my nose, upper nostrils. I used to apply TCA cross, would only cause swelling and would eventually go back to its original size. I tried needling it with 0.23mm micro needle, I thought it was healing, but then it again went back to original size. I do not know if I should still continue with needling since I learned that it is very dangerous to do needling on nose. Anyone with similar stories or success stories? Hope you could share. It is very depressing to hace these kind of scars. Not the the actual pic but very similar and deeper is my scar. Thanks in advance -pan
  11. Deep Nose Scar And Tca Cross

    So I decided to apply an 8% TCA on my nose. Just did it now. Stung a bit, frosted a bit, neutralized it with baking soda after 5 minutes. Will keep you posted!
  12. Scar Success!

    Hi everyone, Here's my before and afters: Just wanted to post my success for moral support and encouragement for anyone else like me that thought they'd NEVER make progress. I had acne my whole life and it became cystic when I reached my late 20's. I had the worst acne of ANYONE I'd ever seen, I even had to have some surgical excision of cysts that never left. It was that bad. I don't use any acne products. I only wash my face once a day, don't even wash it in the mornings. I use coconut oil as a cleanser sometimes and a makeup remover if I wear make up. The pics are about 2 years apart. I attribute the improvement in scarring to derma-stamping, single needling, STOPPING retin-A, silicone mircro-droplet injections, TCA spot treatment on scars and eating a healthy diet with no soy, grains, or unsaturated oils. There are some red areas in this after pic because I recently did some TCA spot treating on a couple icepick scars but I don't break out anymore and this redness is temporary and easily covered with make up. I highly recommend derma-stamping and TCA for scars, when used cautiously and only if you've educated yourself on proper use. I really love using a 30%tca to spot treat small spots at a time because I don't have to hide in my house for 2 weeks that way, it's a slower longer process but I find that at least that way it actually gets done. As for stamping, I now do it once a month (or every 4-6 weeks) and I also just starting massaging my face and scars which feels good and brings blood flow to the surface of your skin making it healthier. There's a post somewhere on the forums here called "30min massage for scars" you can read which is very helpful too. I don't even use any cleansers except honey in the shower and sometimes coconut oil. I got rid of all the store bought, chemical laden crap. That being said, I do think salicylic acid, lactic acid and tca are good as long as they're not done too much, and health wise, I feel they're pretty safe to use. They're made from milk and fruit. I used to think it would never get better and I'm so glad I was patient, took pictures, kept learning, and kept persevering.
  13. I'm basically looking for something that I can do cheap and easily at home. Already have a .75mm Dermroller for complexion and looking to buy a 1.5 mm Dermastamp for my scars. Does anyone have experience with Dermastamping and doing TCA peels? I have shallow pitted scars that you can see in my other posts. Do you think I will have any benefit at all? My skin is pretty bad as it is so I figured I could at least try to make the rest of my skin look decent in the meantime. I'm thinking Dermastamp every 1.5 months with a peel somewhere in between and add vitamin c serum. I will eventually get around to subcision and possibly TCA cross but I think I am at least a year or so away from that. Would love to hear if anyone has any experience/results from something similar. Overall I'm wondering if it would even be worth it.
  14. Hey everyone, Just wanted to post some before and after pics of my skin after various scar treatments. I want to let you all know to that scars can be improved and don't give up if they get you down. I would have considered mine severe before treating them, now I rate them as maybe moderate; but I still plan on doing more treatments, just figured id post some pics to help some of you out. Heres a very very general overview of what I've done over the years: Dermastamp 1.5mm + terproline TCA peel 30%, 15% various lactic acid peels That's it...however, I plan on getting some subcision and TCA cross done very soon, along with learning how to single needle and continuing dermastamping and spot treating with the 30% TCA. Also, If any of you are under the impression that you NEED lasers to treat severe scarring, I'm here to tell you that you don't. IMO, lasers are way too harsh and can actually do more harm than good. Look at every option and combine treatments, something will work for you. Good luck!
  15. Tca Cross?

    I am interested in doing the tca cross scar treatment at home. I haven't found much information about it online. I was wondering if anyone knows how exactly to do tca cross? Any links or videos would really help me and anybody else interested in doing tca cross at home. Are some scars too big to do tca cross on? What size are scars supposed to be to do tca cross on?
  16. Hi everyone, I suffered from cystic acne from the age of 16 it has now cleared up thankfully I only get an occasional whitehead but I was left with scarring. I did have some boxcar scarring and also some rolling scars so I researched and decided to get derma rolling (micro rolling) done, I done it once with a dermatologist but then started doing it myself at home and had some good results as my boxcar and rolling scars are now gone. Unfortunately I am still left with small pitted holes that look like open pores on my cheeks, I believe these are called icepick scars? I researched into these again and came across TCA so I went ahead and had a 50% deep TCA peel with a dermatologist as I read it has good results on scarring, I am now three days post peel and have started to peel but the new skin underneath still seems to have the icepick scars. I'm not sure if I'm judging too early and if they get better over time so I thought I'd ask on here to see if anyone has had one done and how long it took for results? Also if anyone thinks TCA cross would be a better option for icepick scars? Or if I should just continue on with derma rolling for results. Please give any advice you can. Thanks
  17. Ice pick scars uk.

    Hello, long time lurker, first time poster. I am looking to get TCA, to perform the cross procedure on my ice pick scars now my acne has finally calmed down. They are not the rolling type, but they look like large open pores although you can see the bottom on all of them so they are quite shallow. However TCA is hard to get in the uk, so I am looking to ship it. Main question is how easy is it to ship or will customs confiscate it? The supplier say they have shipped to the Uk successfully, and they seem genuine. Any help would be very welcome.
  18. WARNING!!!! Acid Peels Can Harm Your Skin, cause severe burns, and further scaring. Do not think the highest percentages will help if you are not experienced. Please Study fully and read as much as you can. If you have any doubts have a dermatologist do it. They are experienced handling the acid. Watch as many Youtube Videos as you can on your peel, start with a spot test somewhere out of the way, then try a diluted treatment and move up to higher percentages IF YOU CAN HANDEL IT!
  19. I have a few mild to moderate icepick boxcar and rolling scars near my temple that I would like to improve. You can look through my post history to find some pictures. Looking for a decent doctor near MA, RI, CT, or even possibly NY or New Jersey. Would love to hear if anyone has had these procedures done in any of these states. Would also be willing to travel longer distances if anyone has had any great experiences. I appreciate the help. Treatments needed IMO are TCA Cross subcision and I might want fillers.
  20. Day 300

    I visited my dermatologist to do TCA cross on Friday and paid $250.00 for my entire face. I don't think it was worth it though considering the physician's assistant did very few of my scars and didn't even touch any of my boxcar scars. Anyway, I won't be using tazorac until after the scabs fall off. I think I'm going to start doing crosses on my own or at least dermarolling in August. What do you guys think? photos immediately after the procedure.
  21. Hi everyone, I am a 21 year old Asian-Indian origin female struggling from moderate-severe acne scars. I first battled moderate acne for years before going on a low dosage of accutane (10 mg) for four months after which my breakouts stopped. I haven't had a new pimple in months now (yeeeeaas, thankfully) but I have horrid horrid acne scars all over my cheeks. These are almost impossible to conceal with makeup so I had decided to visit a dermatologist who could help me get rid of these using different techniques. I went through 4 rounds of subcision+ co2 laser over the span of 2 years and I recently (last month) had a fraxel treatment done at a new dermatologist's place. Needless to say after spending all this money, time and effort I have had barely 10-15% improvement in the scars. This is incredibly upsetting and I was wondering if people here who have had scars and have successfully minimised them to a large extent could provide some insight here. I have attached two pictures here. This was the harshest light I could find and my scars do look pretty pretty bad here. appreciate the input!
  22. WIDE PITTED SCAR?

    I've been sufferring with facial scarring for as long as I can remember. I tried a 30% tca cross but it made my scar wider but shallower. Im not sure if what would be easier to treat a deep small one or a shallow wide one ? Can anyone suggest anything? Ive also tried needling but theyre still there. Please help? I have three scars a white scar on my forehead chicken pox scar and underneath my eye. Also, I'm 20 years old/ asian skin/ medium fair. Has anyone tried success with excision? My scar expanded twice the size due to tca cross. My face is basically ruined.
  23. I did a Tca peel using 15% solution 5 days ago and I haven't peeled at all, my skin feels rough and hard on some areas, but overall it's made me look way worse. My pores look bigger, my skin feels rough and dry, it looks uneven and has this horrible shiny bumpy texture to it. Is it going to peel soon? Have I ruined my skin! Please help! :(
  24. I did a TCA peel 12.5% (applied one layer, removed after 5 mins) on my face 3 days ago, including on one cyst that had been there for 2-3 weeks. Don't do it. (To rant: The cyst came to a head right after the peel, and I pricked it with a needle, happily bleeding it. Usually this allows healing and I wouldn't be left with a scar. But a day later, I noticed there was a 2mm-deep hole where the pus was. It has very neat and clean edges, and looks like it has stopped healing. Usually the wounds take a week to heal, and sometimes they patch up nicely. But this one looks like"I'm done. This is me." I'm so upset now. I've been battling acne scars all my life and I'm 35 now. With collagen loss, I now have wrinkles too and the scars are looking stretched. And now, an additional scar.)
  25. Hi everyone! I just got back from my 3rd session of CIT + growth factor and my face is redder than an angry tomato! :-) I can say that I have seen some improvement over the past 2 months in terms of what seems like newer collagen growth (and thus shallower scarring), especially on the right cheek area. The overall color tone of the scarred area may have some slight improvement as well, but that it tougher to tell. I am not in a hurry to get too many things done too soon and will not be going in for my followup appt. until 3 months from now. The aesthetician said that they really want to see how well my skin has responded by then. At that time, several options will be discussed to addressed leveling off my cheek areas - especially the huge atrophic scarred area on my left cheek. I am looking into temporary hyaluronic acid (HA) fillers and may get them put in at that time. The aesthetician also suggested that a chemical peel (medium strength SA or TCA) could be done before getting the fillers put in. I am unsure if I should get both of those procedures done on the same day. Do you think it would be too much done in one day if I got a chemical peel and fillers injected? I am likely going to lean toward just getting the atrophic areas filled since that makes the scarring look a lot worse.... The overall color tone isn't as important to me. Also, is my Dr. right to suggest temporary fillers such as Restalyne versus "permanent" ones like silicone beads or PMMA? She said that permanent fillers can cause some issues and if they do, they are a hassle to remove.... As always, I appreciate the knowledge, research, and advice that is available here!