could you tell us about the technique you've employed? i've been doing massages since mid May and i'm certain i've gotten at least 20% long term improvement over the area i treated.
I've taken a rather extreme approach compared to aquasea's methods; that is massaging everyday with a %0.05 tretinoin cream up until the point that my skin is just about to bleed as a result of mechanical abrasion. no oils, no mosturizers, just leaving the tretinoin overnight. timing varies from 10-70 minutes depending on how vigorous you are (i don't think that matters much). I don't recommend this unless your skin is used to retinoids (5 months at least; ive been on %0.05 tretinoin for more than 2 years).
Thanks for your input. There are indeed negative reports of facial massaging, but i think most of them are coming from a "Carole Maggio's facercise" program which doesn't seem suitable for just scars. In any case, the positive effects of facial massages in general seem to overwhelmingly outweigh the negative ones
I wish i could afford those serums you suggest aquasea, but I'm a broke college student at the moment, and shippings to Mexico are not cheap
Thanks for the links aquasea, i've taken spirulina since childhood and i didn't know it could be used as a face mask
I'm starting to see dents filling up as a result of massaging, but unfortunately i got a cyst just in the middle of the area i was massaging (cheek) so i won't be able to do it for the next week. The other cheek is still recovering from a chemical peel i did weeks ago so we'll see which side ends up better in the end.
Also don't worry about people asking for pictures, i wouldn't upload any even if i had perfect skin (shyness, mostly). This is one of the few if not the only technique that is 100% safe and provides good results all around; if not for scars, for a natural lift and healthy skin glow.
Thanks for the advice, but it took you a while...
When both the face and the (stainless steel) needles are properly disinfected with alcohol there's little chance of something going wrong.
used sewing needles and his skin is so better that he doesn't need to hang around here anymore.
Don't get me wrong, i don't think using sewing needles for any scar treatment is a good idea, but not because a risk of getting sepsis; a ridiculous claim someone made in another topic.
ive been wondering that too, are thin needles really more safe/effective than thicker ones? because it appears that subcision done professionally is only performed with really thick needles (indeed around 18g). And the guy who got massive improvement (judging by his pictures) used plain sewing needles, which are considerably thicker than diabetic lancets.
i have to say i tried with the thinnest sewing needle i could find and it was very hard and painful to pierce the skin horizontally. i cant even imagine the pain with even thicker needles..
It certainly wouldn't hurt using an ACV diution over the whole face, but i'd use 30% vinegar, 70% water and try avoiding the sun even if using sunscreen. ACV may still irritate your skin though, but it is worth a shot IMO.
Anyway, for how long did you use Retin-A? it faded my redmarks in 7 months (yeah thats a long while) and has been the only product that somewhat fixed my complexion. You could also try one of those aspirin masks