Totally understandable, sorry to hear it didn't make a difference for you. I was doing some reading last night and it seems that some natural antibiotics/antifungals only target bad bacteria and yeast and leave good bacteria alone. This would be great if I didn't cause SIBO myself rom probiotics, but all of the bacteria in my small intestine are good bacteria that aren't supposed to be there.
So things that don't touch good bacteria are: oil of oregano and grapefruit seed extract
Things that eradicate 50% of good bacteria are: peppermint oil
Things that kill all bacteria: garlic, caprylic acid, digestive enzymes, goldenseal.
I'm just taking this information from another forum, someone did a test on these with a culture of yogurt and documented the results. It's interesting though because oil of oregano hasn't been touching my problem and only peppermint oil a little... so I'm going to be eating a lot of garlic in the next few weeks as well as taking caprylic acid thats enteric coated to reach the small intestine. I'll let you all know how it goes!
I'm just making an educated guess.. there is a medical test for it though, it is a hydrogen breath test much like getting tested for lactose intolerance. I would cut all sugars even natural sugars and start on antibacterial/antifungals and see how you do. It's making a huge difference for me!
This article on probiotics is really interesting: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/probiotic1.php
To Green Gables: You probably do well on antifungals because they are also antibacterials.. so they clear out all of the fungus but also kill the bad bacteria. Glad to hear they help someone else as well.
I'm also a person who breaks out from probiotics but I think I've found out why. Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. If you have this going on adding probiotics is only going to make the situation worse. You may have gut problems but you have to deal with this first. I actually gave myself small intestinal bacterial overgrowth from consuming way too much probiotics and having low stomach acid. Definitely something to look into. I've been having great success by taking natural antibiotics like olive leaf, apple cider vinegar, oil of oregano, coconut oil etc. and staying away from all sugar, all fruit and low gi. No more probiotics or probiotic yogurt. If I eat something with sugar or starch my face flares up again.
Scalp acne is usually foliculitus... it could also be the cause of your body acne as well. You have to figure out if it is bacterial or fungal since conventional medical treatment focuses on one or the other. Things you could try that are both antifungal and antibacterial that are available without seeing a doctor are tea tree oil shampoo's/conditioners, or washing your hair with apple cider vinegar. That's what I would try! Also, do not use the same towel twice and wash your pillow cases ofter since it spreads easily.
Thank you for the original post! So much great information and I could not agree with you more on all of your advice. I've been on a roller coaster ride for the past year myself trying to figure my body and my acne out and your post is really informative. Elimination diets really help you realize your intolerances but I agree about trying not to be afraid of food and taking care of your body and health to heal from the inside out. I'm going to look into the herbal tonics you posted - thank you again!
Probiotic yoghurt has helped me! I have been using a store bought kind but I think if you were to make your own yoghurt it would have even more benefits. I'm one of the people who breaks out from supplements but not from natural sources so I'm looking to add in other sources of stonger probiotics now that I have been eating yoghurt daily for about 4 months. It makes me feel great and has resolved some of my health issues but I know I need to step it up to continue healing.
Give it a try and see what happens but it's definately a possibility. I really can't figure out what it is about cod liver oil that causes cysts because techinically it should be decreasing inflammation and is really good for the body. I'm not allergic to fish either and from what I have found based on reviews and posts here is that about 50% of people break out from it and 50% are fine. I looked into medical journals and could not find any reports of fish oil causing cysts. I'll mention that it decreased the rest of my non-inflammatory acne amazingly but then the cysts followed and I had never experienced them before. They stopped as soon as I stopped the fish oil but the non-inflammatory acne came back. At that time I didn't realize I had food allergies.
My uneducated guess is that maybe our bodies cannot handle so much fat being processed by the liver because our livers are allready taxed? I eat high fat soups and have no problems though. Maybe there are toxins in the fsh oil we are unaware of? Mercury? I really cannot explain it.
Just wanted to mention to you that taking cod liver oil for me produced large cysts and I wasn't even prone to cysts. Not saying that it is your cause of the recent breakout but I wanted to let you know my experience in case it is. From my research on the org. some people take it and it is fine, for others they react with cysts.
Did not wait out the initial breakout. Took probiotics for three days and contiuned breaking out extremely bad for the week following. The probiotics I took were coated to reach the small intestine, were refrigerated and the culture count was in the billions. When I eat probiotic yoghurt I do not experience breakouts, or when I take antifungal/anti-microbial substances. Just from the probiotic supplements.
Yeah, most definately an inital breakout. I took the supplements for about a week and I swear my face has NEVER looked that bad in my life. Even after I stopped taking them I continued breaking out for a good month.
Whitefox, I disagree when you say I can't heal myself if I don't take probiotic supplements. I definately can't heal myself without some source of probiotics, I agree with you on that. But taking probiotics in natural foods seems like a way better option to me. Other members of this forum have had similar reactions to probtioc supplements but do fine when eating any natural source of probiotics. I have done a lot of reading on a site called "healingnaturallybybee" here is a recent article about probiotic supplements if anyone is interested: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/probiotic1.php
In any case I do need some other sources than just yoghurt and think I will try making homemade sauerkraut etc.
Just wanted to add to the thread and say that I'm also on a gut healing diet and think leaky gut is one of the main causes for acne too. I can eat most things except anything with corn or wheat without breaking out but I want to fix my gut so that maybe in time I won't react to these foods as much/live a healtheir life in general. Corn is hidden in everything so I've had a lot of setbacks. Bone broth soup is something extremely helpful with the gut especially as I'm trying to transition from being a vegetarian to a meat eater again. It's full of gelatin which rebuilds the holes in the intestine.
Does anyone here use L-Glutamine to help their leaky gut? I've heard lot's about it but never really tried it. Not sure if it is worth buying supplements or doing this the all natural way?
Also just want to say I am someone who cannot take probiotic supplements wihout having massive breakouts!!! But, probiotic foods like yoghurt are fine and I eat them all the time.
Two of the supplements you take caused me the worst breakouts of my life:
Omega 3 fish oil gave me cystic acne - this is one of the only times I developed cysts in my life.
Probiotics - gave me millions of little papules all over my face and didn't stop until a week after I stopped taking them.
My advice is while these supplements are healthy in theory, myself and many other users of these boards have broken out from them. Try cutting them out and see if you notice a difference but give it at least another 2 weeks because the probiotic breakouts took a while to subside even after I stopped supplementing with them.