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  1. Hello! I have been on Spironolactone for a number of years now that works to stop my acne in its tracks, however, about 5 years ago when I first started the drug I 'believe' I was on Greenstone. I think I remember the little G on this yellow pill. I then was switched to another yellow pill and did not notice the difference in look but noticed the change in acne, suddenly it started coming back. So I went back to the pharmacy and requested Mylan, from the reviews on Acne.org. It worked for a few more years. I then got off it and my skin went crazy and now I am looking to get back on, but would love to know if anyone else has used the Greenstone brand and how it worked for you!! Thanks!!
  2. Hello! Did you ever find out something that worked for you?
  3. Spironolactone stopped working!!!!

    Hello! I actually ended up starting Inositol 1500mg 3 days ago (Jarrow's myo-inositol pills), split up into 2 doses - no side effects or any difference yet. I thought maybe I would feel some sort of effect the first day with just taking such a high dose - but nothing. It was a kind of last 'lets try this' suggestion from my Naturopath since we are so stuck on what the root is, so we thought Inositol if I actually have PCOS - which we have always disregarded because I have absolutely no symptoms other than high Testosterone. My hormone test came back with Regular Progesterone, low Estrogen and high Testosterone. My questions is how long did it take for you to see any change with the Inositol? I definitely agree - I think there could be something going on with my Cortisol, but I can't understand if its actually too high or too low, the symptoms are very similar. I plan to get this tested soon. But yes I think because I work from home it is hard to detach myself, and keep myself really busy. I think if I could just find something that could make my skin SLIGHTLY better and give me a little hope would really lift a lot of weight off my shoulders and then I could try harder to just 'not care'. I try so hard and envy the people I see walking around with such terrible skin but haven't a care in the world about it really. Where here I am stuck inside the house because I just cannot get myself to start the task of looking at myself in the mirror and putting on makeup. I never know where to start - I have to try and do it in sections, keep other parts covered up with some cream/clay mask so I don't overwhelm myself by seeing it all at once. It takes HOURS to get my makeup on to leave the house. I'm really just exhausted with this. I feel like a totally different person now. Hey! I am starting to think possibly PCOS now, and yes I do not have any of the symptoms besides high Testosterone. Did you have cysts on your ovaries? How were you diagnosed? I did do Vitex for several months, it only seemed to kind of mess up my period - it did nothing for my skin, possibly made it a bit worse. So my Naturopath decided I should get off it. I've been off now for about a month and no change. I am trying Inositol now if the possibility is PCOS - 3 days at 1500mg so far.
  4. Maca Capsules... Horrible

    Snarkygirl - did you have some sort of reaction to the saw palmetto? I have been taking it for a month now and it is definitely not helping. I'm wondering if its making matters worse and I should just stop it?
  5. I am 25 and have low estrogen!

    My Naturopath and I are so lost on what this means, because it is such an odd combination. I was on Spironolactone 100mg (5 years) and Beyaz birth control (10 years) which the combination cleared my skin 95%. It was amazing, then it stopped working suddenly and I got off them to now full blown acne. Its been a year me trying to figure out the root. What is odd about my results is that I took this test 2 months after getting off birth control which is odd because my Progesterone is normal, my Progesterone should be so low after getting off BC because the body needs to learn how to produce it again. Could be the reason for low Estrogen as well, or I could have always had low Estrogen. But the Testosterone being so high - there are so many possibilities we have been working through them but have came to no conclusions.
  6. Low Estrogen & Higher Testosterone

    Hi! I have tried all except evening primrose oil, and have JUST started taking myo-inositol 3 days ago 1500mg. Its only been 3 days but I do not feel any different or notice any different when taking these pills, which seems a little odd to me because it is such a high dose I should be feeling some sort of side effects, or anything really. My naturopath thinks it could be possible that the Inositol will help if I do actually have PCOS, which I have been avoiding for a while because I have none of the symptoms except elevated testosterone. My younger sister is a diabetic so I have used her equipment to do blood sugar tests and I always come back normal, I have been checked for ovary cysts, I am very thin, and I do not have any excessive hair growth. But I'm just about out of options so I'm trying the Inositol before I give completely up and get back on BeYaz birth control and Spironolactone - even though both stopped working for me and is the reason I got off of them in the first place to find the root cause of my acne. It is now full blown, insane, there is not an inch on my face that is normal skin. I have been working with my Naturopath for almost 4 months now and she has admitted that she is at a loss. We have done testing, trial and error through herbs and other supplements and just cannot figure it out. She is working on finding me an Endocrinologist that she can refer me to. In the meantime she has sent me a test she thinks I should get done (which is very expensive $400) but I am thinking of doing it - that way if we are still stumped with all of those test results I will have a nice hefty packet of information to bring along with me to the Endocrinologist. Loosing my mind.
  7. Giving Inositol A Try

    Hello! You're situation sounds a lot like mine and I am still searching for an answer. I know this is an old post - but did you ever found anything that ended up working for you?
  8. Maca Capsules... Horrible

    This is information that I have heard before and have been terrified to try Maca - however, I now understand that this is incorrect. There are many different strains of Maca. Some that work in Testosterone, some that work in Estrogen ways. In order to use Maca correctly you need to know what your hormone imbalance is, and which strain of Maca to take in order to address that imbalance. I have normal-high Testosterone but along with very low Estrogen, and my naturopath assured me that Maca, when used correctly in the correct form, will help to bring my Estrogen up.
  9. No period on Spironolactone

    It means that your Progesterone or Estrogen has dipped too low so that you are not able to produce a period any longer. The same thing happened to be on Spironolactone. I just had my hormone tests done and I am high in Testosterone and VERY low in Estrogen. I would have several months of no periods and then get them again and then not. Another theory is that Testosterone rises itself in order to help pull up your bodies Estrogen if it is low. Which obviously is not working, and was not working in me either - just causing a bunch of acne. But PCOS is also another reason for elevated Testosterone - which is not the case for me. I would suggest getting a hormone saliva test of course through ZRT labs - about $100 for your 3 main hormones. And whichever is the low one (Progesterone or Estrogen) supplement with that, either bio-identical creams and/or an herb complex.
  10. I am wondering the same thing - I recently received my hormone tests back and I am extremely low in Estrogen and in the mid-high range with Testosterone, and mid-low range for Progesterone. I too think being on Beyaz/Yasmin and Spironolactone for most of my life has exacerbated my already low Estrogen. I am now 25. My naturopath thinks that is what may have happened, that I was always low in Estrogen, and overtime that increased my Testosterone levels, because they will try to increase in order to bring up your body's Estrogen. Which is obviously not working, body!!!
  11. Estrogen Or Testosterone Overload?

    You do not get a blood test to test hormone levels, you get a saliva test - which is much more accurate. When you get a saliva hormone test through ZRT labs you fill out a questionnaire on your symptoms and you also state exactly where you are in your cycle - the test is then measured to tell you where your hormones stand during that specific time of the month, which in return tells you if you are high or low. I recently received my saliva hormone tests back from ZRT lab. It cost me $100 to get Estrogen/Estradiol, Progesterone and Testosterone tested. Not very expensive - and pretty quick results they e-mail to you. I'm not sure why everyone doesn't do this instead of constantly shooting in the dark. I keep seeing people say to others that it is not reliable and pointless, absolutely not. It will give you the answer you need in order to move forward and address your actual hormone issues instead of guessing about them.
  12. Hello! I recently received my saliva hormone tests and it showed that I have VERY low Estrogen, and mid-high range of Testosterone. Also my Progesterone is in the average-low range. I would love to get any one else opinion on what I should do to correct this and stop my acne - as this is obviously the cause. I would like to note that I think a lot of people will go straight to PCOS - but I am very thin, I do not have hardly any body hair, I have been checked for ovarian cysts, and I check my blood sugar from time to time I do not have insulin sensitivity. I am 25 years old, and have had acne since I have started my period, I have regular periods. I have acne on all areas of my face, more pronounced uncharacteristically lately on the sides of my cheeks. I also have a little bit of acne on my neck, a few on my chest, and quite a bit on my back. Beyaz/Yasmin birth control & Spironolactone cleared me completely until one day it stopped working and I began to search for another more holistic route to match the rest of my lifestyle.
  13. Spironolactone stopped working!!!!

    hi! your results are indeed a bit puzzling.. but there could be several reasons for your low estrogen. I recall you mentioned you at some point were taking DIM, correct? this may have something to do with it, but I'm not too sure. also, we're you already taking vitex when you took this hormone panel? also, It could be that since your hormone panel only measured estradiol, you technically could still have high estrogen (in the form of estrone, which is deemed a "bad" estrogen of of the 3 main types, and low in good/neutral estrogens such as estradiol and estriol. doing a quick search through some forums has told me this is actually a common occurrence with women. specifically women with what is referred to as "lean pcos", meaning their main hormone imbalance comes from unopposed high testosterone levels, which cause a domino effect with all the other hormones, especially estrogen. I've also read that BC/Spiro can cause lowered levels of good estrogen (estradiol) and high levels of bad estrogen. again, I'm not sure what exactly could be going on with that buts this is what I think.. how are you fairing on the vitex by the way? I've recently started taking one 400mg pill everyday and I think I'm going to die. hah. my estrogen levels are def being stimulated right now, my ovulation breakout has started way earlier than usual and my face looks like garbage. also if the wind blows too hard, I think my breasts will fall off. so much pain. I hope this won't last too long, but I plan on giving it a whole 3.5 months before deciding whether to continue or not. Hey! Yea I'm not really sure - I was only on dim for about a month, it didn't do anything. I'm sure I still have some bad estrogens in there, but I think my main cause of the acne right now is the higher Testosterone ratio to low-er Progesterone and Estrogen. I think if I get those both up where they need to be through bio-identical creams, maybe DIM also, and some sort of natural anti-androgen like saw palmetto or I can just keep it light like spearmint tea, because like I said I don't have any PCOS symptoms, I barely have any body hair, etc. And that makes sense being on the BC & Spiro for so long it just started decreasing my good Estrogens?. I have been doing the liquid tincture Chaste Berry (which tastes like the worst thing I have ever tasted) for (oh okay a month and a half, not two months) and I haven't really had too many side effects, except my boobs really shrinking, maybe a very very slight help in acne, but I think honestly thats more from the Daily Vitamin I started taking. So yea not too much happening from the Vitex/Chaste Berry on my end - it definitely did not make my skin worse, so. I would be a little weary if it actually starts making your skin worse, why don't you get a hormone test? I did mine through ZRT labs and it was $100 totally worth it, I feel stupid for not doing it before and just shooting in the dark.
  14. I am 25 and have low estrogen!

    I received my saliva hormone test results back - and I have very low Estrogens, actually normal-low range Progesterone and normal-high range Testosterone. What are your thoughts?! RESULTS: Estradiol - 0.8 Progesterone - 112 Testosterone - 48 Ratio: Pg/E2 - 140 RANGES: Estradiol: 1.3 - 3.3 (Pre-meno / Luteal) Progesterone: 75-270 (Pre-meno / Luteal) Testosterone: 16-55 (Age dependent?) Ratio: Pg/E2: Optimal 100-500 When E2 1.3 - 3.3
  15. Spiro - stopped working.

    Hey! Just wanted to share this information, I figured out why my Spironolactone stopped working - my Estrogen finally dipped way to low that even Birth Control was not enough to get it where it needed to be, and addressing my high Testosterone was not enough anymore. I had my hormones tested (results below) I have been on BC and Spironolactone for 8 months now. With my hormone tests - I am very low in Estradiol and actually average range in Progesterone which I think may be from the Vitex actually (it has been 2 months on it now, somewhere around there). And my Testosterone is high, which I am hoping is being caused by my other hormones being too low to balance it out. Because I actually have never had any 'high testosterone symptoms' I have very little body hair, and sweat very little. I am excited but also a bit scared to get these results because I did not except to be so extremely low in Estrogen. I am meeting with my naturopath tomorrow so I am interested to see what she thinks I should do. I believe I should stay on the Vitex, get on a bio-identical estrogen cream, probably get on a progesterone one as well because I have read that an estrogen cream should always be taken with some progesterone. I will have to figure out when exactly I should be taking the vitex, estrogen & progesterone during my cycle - because I think it needs to be specific and not just all taken everyday, but to follow along with my cycle. As for Tesosterone, I will let that be for now and see if it evens out after getting my Estrogen back up. It makes sense now why the Spironolactone worked for so long, it was just dealing with the high Testosterone but not getting to the root of why it was high because my other hormones were so low and unbalanced. Then the Spironolactone stopped working (also I wasn't having a lot of periods while on it) because my Estrogen must have just gotten so LOW, and I started getting all of these weird under the skin acne bumps, lowering my Testosterone was no longer enough because the Estrogen was not being produced - why? I have no idea about that root, I'm afraid it is my pituitary, ovaries, or adrenals - (thyroid, I had that checked though). I was checked for cysts on my ovaries a few years ago and there was nothing. My pituitary has had issues in the past of producing too much Prolactin from being on a terrible antipsychotic drug when I was in high school. (All high schoolers are probably told they need to be on antipsychotic medication, ugh). Also another mystery I posted on here YEARS ago was why my skin got so very clear the week before and during my period. Because while I was on BC and Spironolactone my skin was clear, but I mean it got so PERFECT during these two weeks, now I know that is because that was the time during my cycle when a woman's Estrogen is naturally low and mine was already low so at this time it would finally be in balance with my other hormones. What a mess. Hoping amping up my Estrogen will finally stop this acne, and I can start being myself again. RESULTS: Estradiol - 0.8 Progesterone - 112 Testosterone - 48 Ratio: Pg/E2 - 140 RANGES: Estradiol: 1.3 - 3.3 (Pre-meno / Luteal) Progesterone: 75-270 (Pre-meno / Luteal) Testosterone: 16-55 (Age dependent?) Ratio: Pg/E2: Optimal 100-500 When E2 1.3 - 3.3
  16. Hey! Thats great to hear that you have something working for you, I feel I will have to do something almost exactly like you. I received my hormone test results back (I have posted them below!) And you are totally right, I am very low in Estradiol and actually average range in Progesterone which I think may be from the Vitex actually (it has been 2 months on it now, somewhere around there). And my Testosterone is high, which I am hoping is being caused by my other hormones being too low to balance it out. Because I actually have never had any 'high testosterone symptoms' I have very little body hair, and sweat very little. I am excited but also a bit scared to get these results because I did not except to be so extremely low in Estrogen. I am meeting with my naturopath tomorrow so I am interested to see what she thinks I should do. I believe I should stay on the Vitex, get on a bio-identical estrogen cream, probably get on a progesterone one as well because I have read that an estrogen cream should always be taken with some progesterone. I will have to figure out when exactly I should be taking the vitex, estrogen & progesterone during my cycle - because like you, I think it needs to be specific and not just all taken everyday, but to follow along with my cycle. As for Tesosterone, I will let that be for now and see if it evens out after getting my Estrogen back up. It makes sense now why the Spironolactone worked for so long, it was just dealing with the high Testosterone but not getting to the root of why it was high because my other hormones were so low and unbalanced. Then the Spironolactone stopped working (also I wasn't having a lot of periods while on it) because my Estrogen must have just gotten so LOW, and I started getting all of these weird under the skin acne bumps, lowering my Testosterone was no longer enough because the Estrogen was disappearing - why? I have no idea about that root, I'm afraid it is my pituitary, ovaries, or adrenals. I was checked for cysts on my ovaries a few years ago and there was nothing. My pituitary has had issues in the past of producing too much Prolactin from being on a terrible antipsychotic drug when I was in high school. (All high schoolers are probably told they need to be on antipsychotic medication, ugh). Also another mystery I posted on here YEARS ago was why my skin got so very clear the week before and during my period. Because while I was on BC and Spironolactone my skin was clear, but I mean it got so perfect during these two weeks, now I know that is because that was the time during my cycle when a woman's Estrogen is naturally low and mine was already low so at this time it would finally be in balance with my other hormones. What a mess. Hoping amping up my Estrogen will finally stop this acne, and I can start being myself again. RESULTS: Estradiol - 0.8 Progesterone - 112 Testosterone - 48 Ratio: Pg/E2 - 140 RANGES: Estradiol: 1.3 - 3.3 (Pre-meno / Luteal) Progesterone: 75-270 (Pre-meno / Luteal) Testosterone: 16-55 (Age dependent?) Ratio: Pg/E2: Optimal 100-500 When E2 1.3 - 3.3
  17. Spironolactone stopped working!!!!

    how will they treat you? I am not sure yet! I am waiting to hear back from my naturopath to schedule an appointment. But I am guessing to supplement with Estrogen & Progesterone. I believe that way the Testosterone will lower itself or not be as high once the Estrogen & Progesterone are increased. Even though it says I am in the higher Testosterone level, I do not have increased body hair or odor or any of the typical increased Testosterone symptoms are - in fact I have very little body hair, and body odor.
  18. Spironolactone stopped working!!!!

    My test results indicated that this was not PCOS - plus I don't think low Estradiol levels are typical of PCOS.
  19. Hello! I am working with a naturopath on trying to get to the root of my acne, but I would love everyone's opinion on what is going on here! I just received my hormone saliva test results, and they are a bit odd. Like everyone else, I thought I probably had a low progesterone / high estrogen dominance thing going on. And of course, since Spironolactone worked so well for me and for so long (until it just stopped working one day) I thought I probably had high Androgens that were unbalanced by the low Progesterone etc. BUT I actually have extremely low Estrogens, and what looks like normal to slightly low Progesterone, and slightly high Testosterone (which I am hoping is just because of the balance of having the other two main hormones lower. So, I am 25 years old, not 50 like these tests read - have had acne ever since I started my period as a kid. Why is my body not producing barely any Estrogen? Is there something going on with my ovaries or my pituitary? What do you guys think the root of this hormonal imbalance is? How do you think I could fix it? I am assuming my naturopath will have me stay on Vitex, and supplement somehow with estrogen? I'm not sure I really wasn't prepared for this kind of result, I thought maybe I would start a Progesterone cream and get on a DIM, but nope - I have no Estrogen a totally different problem. RESULTS: Estradiol - 0.8 Progesterone - 112 Testosterone - 48 Ratio: Pg/E2 - 140 RANGES: Estradiol: 1.3 - 3.3 (Pre-meno / Luteal) Progesterone: 75-270 (Pre-meno / Luteal) Testosterone: 16-55 (Age dependent?) Ratio: Pg/E2: Optimal 100-500 When E2 1.3 - 3.3
  20. Spironolactone stopped working!!!!

    Hello! I got my test results back. I'm still a bit confused on them. Apparently I am incredibly low on Estrogens?! That seems very odd and worrisome for someone my age (25). My progesterone is apparently within normal range, which is what I thought was the problem with it being low. And my Testosterone is higher, but I'm hoping its just higher because there is not enough Estrogen to balance it out. Why would my body not be producing enough Estrogen? Does this mean there is something wrong with my pituitary or my ovaries? Oh my, what do you think of this? I'm going to make another post to ask more opinions! Estradiol - 0.8 Progesterone - 112 Testosterone - 48 Ratio: Pg/E2 - 140 RANGES: Estradiol: 1.3 - 3.3 (Pre-meno / Luteal) Progesterone: 75-270 (Pre-meno / Luteal) Testosterone: 16-55 (Age dependent?) Ratio: Pg/E2: Optimal 100-500 When E2 1.3 - 3.3
  21. Hello! I wanted to reach out and see if anyone else has this issue or has found out what exactly this issue means. I am 25 and have had cystic acne since I was 12, I was completely clear on Spironolactone 100mg and Beyaz Birth Control for 5 years, until something happened and it all came back. I am now off all medication and working with a Naturopath to try and get to the root of my acne. I am currently waiting for my hormone test results to come back. BUT - I have just developed these medium sized under the skin 'cyst' lumps on the back of my neck right under my hairline. My naturopath said that it was lymphatic stagnation, that my body could not rid itself of toxins quickly enough so they are getting stuck and creating cysts. I have actually had these before the EXACT same two when I was in high school before I started on the Spironolactone and the Birth Control. This also is accompanied by painful big and small pimples on my scalp as well, which seems like dermatitis/foliculitus. I am hoping it is not some kind of staph infection. Right now, along with these lumps and the scalp acne - I also have a combination of whiteheads, comedones and cysts on my back and all over my face. Does anyone have more information on what these lumps on the back of my neck mean? Thank you!
  22. Spironolactone stopped working!!!!

    Hi! Are you taking a progesterone cream? You totally should do something about that super low progesterone - Vitex will help but it won't actually replace the hormone you are lacking - I assume I will be on a progesterone cream or a pill (Progestomend) that my Naturopath suggested once we get the final results. Also what I thought was odd that you pointed out it took a while for the Spironolactone to kick in for you - for me it was literally a few days and my acne just completed STOPPED. It was a miracle and stayed like that for almost 5 years. I definitely agree that the Vitex is doing something to my body, just not really anything to do with acne. I'm actually just a few days past ovulation today and my nipples/breasts are so sensitive and painful just to brush clothing against them. I have noticed this has happened the last 2 cycles and it also coincides with a bad cystic flare in acne. So I think it is safe to say my acne is at its worse right after ovulation. I can't figure out if that means low or high progesterone, but low obviously makes more sense. I'm just really ready to get my tests back now, I can hardly stand this anymore it has been almost a year going through this all over again - and now it is summer again and it just makes it that much harder, I want to run outside right when I wake up, but I have to take an hour to cake skin colored stuff on my face to look like a normal human. It is just so scared, and so many open sores and scabs and big bumps and small bumps, its absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe there isn't more information out there to stop this - it is an absolute life inhibitor. I will be sure to post my results when I get them!
  23. Spironolactone stopped working!!!!

    Hey Tess!! Yes I do remember talking to you via e-mail. Ugh I am going through absolute hell lately with my skin, I thought it was worse before when I thought my Spironolactone had stopped working and I was still on Beyaz Birth Control. But now! That I am off both of those, oh my god. I am actually waiting on test results for my saliva hormone test! I am getting the trio done of Estrogen, Progesterone and Testosterone. Which of course I realize will be a bit of help but I really wish I could get my free testosterone, DHT, DHEA, and cortisol tested in there as well - but I don't have a money tree growing in the backyard. Yet. I have actually been on quite a big dose of Vitex for one month now, no real change in acne, it may have ever so slightly been more manageable but its still absolutely terrible - its all over the sides of my cheeks big and small, all over my forehead and temple and on my jaw and chin - I mean just my entire face. I even get some in the center of my cheeks under my nose, upper lip etc. I did however have a lighter period and my boobs have decreased sized SIGNIFICANTLY. So its doing something. I don't see my naturopath until we get the test results in from my hormone saliva panel. However I am interested to see what it tells, I'm sure I have very low progesterone and either something going on with my estrogen whether I am estrogen dominant or even low in estrogen but just high in bad estrogens. And my testosterone I feel like will come back normal, even though I know I have something pretty severe going on with my androgens because why else would Spironolactone have worked 100% immediately if I did not have an androgen problem? Just over here loosing my mind in the internet when I should really be working, Sara
  24. Hey, Wondering if anyone has any input on why the Vitex I have started (Tincture form 2.5 drops every morning) Would be causing a pretty shocking decrease in breast size (I mean the entire half of my upper breast is just gone.) And some, not serious, but noticeable shedding of hair in the shower. What does this mean? I am working with a Naturopath - whom I don't see for another 2 weeks. I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas to what these clues may be pointing to. I have heard a lot of women Vitex does the opposite, increases their breast size and stops the shedding of hair. Hmm. I have been on the Vitex for 1 full week now, no change in acne. I know it takes several months - but I am trying to decipher these breast & hair clues now. We think I may be very low in Progesterone, which is causing my Estrogen to be dominant, and also my androgens above also. *I was on Spironolactone 100mg for 5 years with 99% clear skin + Beyaz for 10 years - suddenly, about a year ago they both just stopped. I thought it pointed to a fungal infection, because Doxycline was not working. I decided to get off everything because I have been switching my lifestyle to a more natural onel. It seems my body has just changed - to what, I don't know, my acne is worse than it has ever been in my life at 25. Completely different type of pimples, and in totally different areas than pre-bc & spiro. Mainly on the sides of my cheeks and jaw - some on back and a few big ones on the front of the neck Thanks!