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Jan 12 2005, 08:18 PM
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BASIC OVERVIEW
Basically, our skin naturally, was structured for it to be able to control and maintain itself, just like how our body produces certain amount of hormones and etc to maintain homeostasis. It produces the optimum amount of moisture, and etc... Naturally, it's not flawful and acne prone. (There are exceptions however, just like some people are born without limbs, some people are born with a skin very prone to acne. Now, of course I took this into consideration so I wrote down on my first post who I believe would benefit the most from this (ie: people who have no acne anywhere else except their face)) Now, the problem with some of us is that we use SO much medications, chemicals, and etc at our mild or even low moderate acne that eventually and overtime, the chemicals contained on these products (BP included) destroy our skin structures. In analogy, it's just like bombarding a city to eliminate all the bad guys, but at the same time, killing innocent ones. PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I am an acne sufferer. WAS an acne sufferer. I followed my research and experimented in my own skin. After a year, my results were excellent. Here are mini updates I wrote in my journals regarding my condition: UPDATES AND PROGRESS (Descending Order) QUOTE 1/11/06 UPDATE: Well... what can I say - I'm clear. Been clear for many months. I can officially say that my skin has finally recovered from all these chemical damages done from commercial products such as Pro-Activ, Murad, BP, and etc... I don't care about my skin anymore. I don't take care of it, don't look at it, and even go against my diet advices. Why? Because I never get BAD BREAKOUTS anymore, even when after eating boxes and boxes of chocolates, pizza, and spicy stuff. I'm glad I started this. It's been a struggle waiting paitiently and faithfully, but my God, it was worth it. QUOTE 7/16/05 UPDATE: (what I wrote in my last post in this thread) I just want to bump this article for one last time. Every since I've been following my theory religiously, I keep getting better and better results. Now, which has been many many many months since I've started my product, my face is entirely different. Because my skin has REGENERATED AND REPLACED my old one that I had when I first wrote this thread, it is now completely new skin, undamaged and untouched by SKIN DAMAGING medication and products. Results? My own skin's natural defenses and structure keeps me from having acne. I am now, 99% clear! 99% only, because I have two which after many months of being clear, appeared. They're both fading now though. EVEN MY REDMARKS FROM THE MOST RECENT PIMPLES now disappear QUICKLY (just weeks!), instead of waiting for 6 or so months! I don't know why, but it's probably because of my new and undamaged skin which can now properly repair itself. QUOTE 3/24/05 UPDATE: It has been 5 to 6 months since I have started my regimen. For the first 3 months, I was getting results, but I still have acne (small ones). My acne never became worse since the third month. The next month, I have been improving, but slowly. I however, could not get past 3 BIG acnes. Everytime those 3 BIG acnes disappear, new ones appear. It was annoying. Every surface of my face is clear from acne though, but full of redmarks, which are worse than acne. At that point, my face responds to my DIET sensitively. Everytime I eat more than 3 pizza slices, I break out BIG TIME, but usually, small ones accompanied by a BIG ONE. In the past month, 5 months after this regimen, BIG acne has been reduced, and appear randomly in numbers, but never getting past 3. Sometimes, I get only one, then it would disappear, then the next week, two, then disappear. However, every other surface of my face is clear. Now, I don't have any BIG ONES, just one left, and even though it has been there for a while, I don't grow anymore acne, even small ones. I can now say that I am 95% clear, except for that one BIG one, and some small ones which aren't really noticeable unless it's really sunny and my face is magnified on a clear clear clear mirror. I am glad I found out this regimen early. I really am. I now wear make-up because my red marks are not completely healed. My skin texture has also improved, and has finally repaired itself, although not fully. I can't wait to see my fully recovered, and hopefully, free from redmarks and acne 5 months from now. I will still wear make-up though, because I seem to get fond of them already. I rarely get breakouts now because my skin has repaired itself, and because of that, my resistance to acne has greatly increased, that even if I eat more than 5 slices of pizza, I don't get anymore breakouts - maybe little ones, but I don't know since I don't look at my face in a magnifying glass anymore. I however, do have mild scars on some areas. I know there's nothign I could do with them, but they're not that bad, and with makeup, they look ok. QUOTE 1/31/05 DISCOVERY: Alright, I have discovered something from experience, observation, collection of data, forums, people, etc. Wonder why you inherit acne form your parents? Well, no, you don't inherit acne from parents, but rather, their skin type. Acne is not inherited. No one in this world has a skin that is totally immune to acne, and no, not even the clear people you see today. Why so? It is because their skin type is one that is very strong from acquiring acne. Many of us who have acne are fated to have them because our skin is not strong enough, therefore, a little disturbance into our skin, such as hormonal changes, diet, and etc that alters our skin will make us breakout. This is why DIET very much affects acne. Well, why is it that even though you eat a box of chocolate and still not breakout while everything else makes you break out? Well, everyone has some kind of line, which depends on the strength of their digestive system, that they cannot cross. What I mean is that everyone can eat chocolate, sweets, etc, just as long as they don't cross that line because once you cross that line, then that's when what you eat affects your acne. The thing is: EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT LINES. This is why some people believe that diet does not affect acne at all. It is because they haven't crossed that line yet, which is maybe because of the effectiveness of their digestive system or etc. If you don't believe this, how about you try eating a room full of chocolates, that would for sure cross anyone's line. You're really curious, so let's begin the topic Just a note: This is not an absolute cure/prevention for acne. There is none. This however, will prevent acne up to 90% and the rest is up to diet, and etc. Also, this Regimen prevents us from the damaging effects of medications and commercial products. Read on to find out more So...Is this Miracle method? Nope, but it absolutely works! Why? Because 10% of acne sufferers in this world are the only ones that have REAL ACNE. The rest of us don't. Then why do you have acne? Read on for more information. Have you tried all medications available in the market, but acne still breaks out out from their shells? Well, guess what, you may have been thinking that you have a serious uncurable acne, but really, you might not. If you have acne in face, mild to none on chest and back, or limbs and pubic area, and have tried all products including proactiv, benzoyl peroxide, anti-biotics, etc, but acne still exists and have become worst, then here's a reality check: You are not suffering from a serious genetic acne or terrible unbalanced sebum production, but rather, your own works. Because of your paranoia, you use all these kinds of products from half-effective ProActiv, Murad, BP, and etc, and because of that, your face gets irritated and thinned and becomes worse, that your own face, from your own works, becomes more prone to acne). ---SO ALL THOSE COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS? THOSE ARE BS, and guess what, of course they minimize acne production, but the thing is, its maximum effect is just that, and nothing else. You may have had clear days that lasted for a week or two, but that's it. Pure luck. Now, it is proper to wonder why even after using ProActiv, Murad, BP, and etc for over a year, you still have breakouts even with your optimized diet--- ---Also, your parents have little or no acne, which was present only in their teen, and your siblings don't have acne as serious as yours. How about you figure out what they're doing. They're not using as much medications as you right?--- (for a few only) Have you noticed that areas with acne, or had acne that you neglected before, is now clear? I had back acne, but I neglected it because no one sees my back anyways. So, after many months, or, maybe just weeks, my back is clear without me doing anything! Unbelievable? Yes, but TRUE! Also, my forehead was the place of my first breakout. However, just like my back, not many sees my forehead because I made my front hair long and so, I just ignored it too. Until then, my forehead is clear! Why, and how? I'll get more into that later. If you ask me, I regret being manipulated by commercials and descriptions to buy expensive acne products, only to make your skin TRULY DEPENDENT on them. ---If you've been lurking around the internet, there are many posts about how people cured/prevented their acne by just using vinegar, or baking soda, or water, or lemon, etc, without prescription/over-the-counter drugs, or accutane. Guess what? Those people are right. ALMOST right. While there are many who disagree with them and also those who bash them because their face have become worse, it is because we have different skin types. So this method is only for specific number, but majority of people: If your parents do not have acne right now, or that if they have little or no trace of scarring; if you have acne only on your face, and only in specific areas where you keep putting medications; if acne only exists on a section of your face; if you rarely get neck acne; if you have mild to moderate, but not serious acne on back or chest; if you have no acne growing on pubic area; if you have little or no acne growing on your limbs; if once in your lifetime, you have not been using medications, and as a result, you barely notice that your're clearing up, but when you continued medications, your acne flared up again, and became maybe worse for the first few weeks, then this method will work for you! If all or most of those characteristics fit you, and you have no serious acne at all, so how about you listen to this: STOP YOUR MEDICATIONS. Well, of course, if you stop them, you would flare up pretty badly (maybe), and that you would lose courage, but if you trust me, and you have tremendous amount of luck, then you might not break out too bad, or even at all. But, read on, and I'll talk about how to prevent bad breakouts after stopping medications. Ok, I already said that you must stop your medications, but here's another thing: have you ever noticed that the more you put medications, that area does not stop acne, but rather, still exists with even the slightest bumps. It may have stopped big acnes, but why do you still have slight bumps? Well, it is because the more you use medications, the more you irritate your skin, and destroy your glands, and disrupt the repair process, thus thinning your skin and permanently destroying your glands and making you more prone to acne. Now, for some of us, that's the reason why our parent's and sibling's face is scar and zit free, unless they use the same medication as you do. ------------------------------- Here's a detailed explanation and steps on what should you do. In order to prevent flare ups after you stop your medications, you must slowly decrease the amount or strength you use to your acne. For example, if you've been using benzoyl peroxide, when you stop it, damn, you'd get a hell of breakouts. Now, what, what should you do? Slow down the reaction by applying nothing in your face except vinegar, or to some, Cetaphil or anything as gentle as that. I'm not explaining how that works, but there's many posts about that. Of course, you will still break out, even after a month of stopping your medications and using vinegar. However, after two or three months of using vinegar, you will certainly notice very very noticeable improvements both on your acne prevention and red marks. At that time, it is safe to stop the vinegar, and now, just apply one solution: WATER. You might have little breakouts after you quit the vinegar and have a transition to water, but don't worry, they won't last long: maybe at most, a month. However, these aren't big breakouts. And, if you breakout, apply vinegar still, but make it a spot treatment. Because guess what, Vinegar is great great great on pulling out the white stuff, or puss, to the surface. In three days, that big pimple will be ready to pop, and you won't even have to pop it, because even by leaving it by itself will pop itself. However, the vinegar should just be applied as on-the-spot treatment. At this point, you may have a lot of red marks from previous breakouts. Don't worry though, they'll disappear soon. However, it will take months or weeks for the lucky ones. Hydroquinone creams would work. Do not use them for more than a month though since I don't think prolonged use of hydroquinone is safe. If you have red marks, buy those chinese Pearl Cream or Placenta Creams because they're great on recovering and rebuilding skin. They contain nutritions needed to help rebuild skin. Alright, well, now you're applying water as your morning and night treatment. I advise you to not wash your face more than twice. How about when you're having stressed days? How about when you have to stay late at night for homework or other stuff? Well, here's what you do. Carefully observe your skin under a light using a small clear handy mirror. If you see that your skin is getting oily, and really oily, then it is probably time to wash - with just water. I prefer hot water. However, at those stressed nights, still have a limit on how much you wash your face. Three to four times is the MAX. Continue with the water, I prefer HOT WATER, but not too hot. Just the max the faucet can go. So after a month of just using water and maybe those chinese placenta creams and sunscreen (I prefer sunscreens with collagen and vitamin E), your face should be clearing up. Maybe a little bumps, but those are really nothing and won't be noticeable. After many many months of just using water and nothing else, you'll finally be fully independent from medications and even vinegar! Congratulations. Remember however, this is a process that needs a lot of patience, courage, and common sense. I really hope I figured this sooner. I really could have prevented acne earlier and its scars. Good luck everyone. Here's some proven working tips to minimize breakouts. I do some of them, and sometimes, none of them, but I still don't get breakouts anymore! Why? Because my skin is not so thin and damaged anymore from Medications! However, if I like go back to Benzoyl Peroxide, I would certainly have to follow all of these tips because I will become even more prone to acne. But why should I go back to BP if I have clear skin already? -NO SALT and NO SUGAR. I am exagerrating, because in order to function, we need those, but it's the my only way of saying minimize salt and sugar intake. Unfortunately, this really affects acne. -Irregular Sleeping does not cause acne, but stress does. It causes more oil production. If you read all the rest of my paragraphs, you should know what to do about this. -Exercise a lot! It might help, but I really don't know. However, do it still since it's good for your body and attraction points. -This tip works: Drink water an hour or two before and after eating. Works for me, and many others. Very good advice to follow -Green Tea is good. I don't know if it helps prevent acne, but it makes you poop more and release all toxins effectively. -Gargling Baking Soda and water helps prevent bad breath -Vinegar a day gets the puss away -Don't touch, or pick, or even feel your face -Eat right -Chocolate and sweets are really bad. To a degree, you can eat, but once you pass a certain line, it will soon cause damage to your skin. -search for topics with keywords: Vinegar, Baking Soda, Lemon, No washing. -FINALLY, my last and best tip! For RED Marks, Baking Soda is better than VINEGAR. It is very gentle and works like magic. Let it stay for an hour or so at your face, then rinse. There you go. Have fun. Remember, there are no overnight solutions, not even weekly solutions, but there are monthly solutions, and this one is the greatest one. Also, bums don't have acne, and people in the past rarely get acne, so think about it. In conclusions, here's some of the Regimen tips: -If you have been using medications such as Benzoyl Peroxide, and choose to follow this great Regimen, a good transition product would be Vinegar, then finally to Water -Some effects of transitions would probably be initial breakouts. However, if you follow the tips I've given above, you could minimize it -Use the transition product, ie: Vinegar, or something else, for at least a month or two. Then, when all the big zits and cysts have gone (Vinegar is great for that), and when all that's left are typical mild acnes, then start the Water -Water is best when kinda hot. I haven't tried with cold water because hot water has been working, and if it ain't broke, don't change it. Also, hot water seems to be more effective in washing off the oil and stuff, so go with hot water -However, each of our skin are different. There's a line between too hot and not hot enough. Me, I use the Maximum hot water my faucet can give, which doesn't really irritate my skin. Ya, it will be red for a minute because water is hot. -Maximum washing time: 30 seconds or less. No scrubbing or stuff needed. Just gentle swipe. -When drying it, just pat the towel. And there you go. I however, advise you to put sun block (I prefer ones with Vit. E and Collagen) 5 minutes after you washed your face in the Morning. -At night, I prefer some kind of regeneration cream. Chinese stuff works such as Placenta creams that has nutrients for the skin. Stuff with collagen and Vit. A, E and etc are great too. Just remember that it has to be non-comedogenic. -Also, if you have school or work, when you get home, wash your face and put some kind of cream. Not a moisturizing cream. That totals to 3 washes. Morning, middle wash, and night wash. Note: The point of the transition product is to minimize breakouts when going from medication to water. Going directly from medication to water would be a breakout galore. Good luck and HAVE FUN!
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Ever wonder why even with medications, you still have acne? http://www.acne.org/messageboard/light-us-t40303.html |
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Jan 12 2005, 08:23 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 8-January 05 |
Also, acne is not caused by dirt and oil production. However, excessive oil production is bad. In addition, Proactiv sucks! Lastly, Benzoyl Peroxide is a temporary acne prevention. However, if it works for you, then sucks for you since you'll be depending on it forever. Depending on water is not as bad as depending on medications.
Also, Benzoyl Peroxide has totally worked for me, but realizing that I will be dependent on it, I stopped. As a result, acne galore. In addition, ProActiv has certainly worked for me, but realizing that I will be dependent on an over-priced product, I stopped. As a result, acne galore.
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Ever wonder why even with medications, you still have acne? http://www.acne.org/messageboard/light-us-t40303.html |
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Jan 12 2005, 09:04 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 23-November 03 From: brooklyn |
Hey ive kinda been doing this the past 3-4 weeks and my skin is looking ALOT better than before. I dont wanna jinx it but my skin is so much better now than it was when i was on acne medications. My red marks are looking better and pimples are coming and going(thats even if i get one). I like this because my skin feels alot more comfortable than washing it with harsh cleansers. I dont do the Vineger but i might try it out because it seems to help alot of people with their redmarks. I also use the Cetaphil cleanser at night to at least clean my skin and thats the most gentle cleanser.
My regimen is: Morning-wash with water Night-wash with Cetaphil and apply a littl bp only on the pimple. |
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Jan 14 2005, 12:31 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 30-June 04 |
You are very RIGHT! I had gone on accutane, but a certain food made my hormones go crazy (f*cking media lying that it's good for you it ruined my skin!)
ANYWAY, neither of my parents have acne scars on their face and yes, like you described my jaw and neck area is perfectly clear and always has been (knock on wood) and only sections of my face even after eating the bad food ever broke out. if i had never gone on all those horrible meds, creams, face washes when my acne was milder I'm sure it would have vanished without a trace because now that I think of it I was MORE depressed over how red dry and irritated my face always was than i was about the acne! also, it's been almost seven years since i took accutane and this is where id disagree with you, i think accuatne works long term for some because whatever caused their skin to freak out isn't happening anymore and accutane overrode that, But for some, the problem is still there and so acne comes back. FYI most acne cleansers have sodium laurel sulafte which is highly comedogenic and very irritaing. I use nothing on my face but neutrogena fragrance free soap and avoid acidic foods 9acids give me eczema) and if I didn't have these ugly little scars from ONE-TWO bad breakouts years ago my skin would be close to great now. I WOULD NOT EVER USE ANY ACNE TREATMENT THAT MAKES YOUR FACE RED OR OVERLY DRY EVER YOUR SKIN WILL GET WORSE. AND MOST TREATMENTS DO JUST THAT> AVOID SLS IN CLEANSERS, ALCOHOL< AND MENTHOL>
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Jan 14 2005, 01:25 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 26-October 03 |
Just before I grew out of my acne I came to the conclusion that for me, doing nothing was better than anything(Or at most keeping my regemin at a minimum).
If you want a product that kills bacteria better than anything and isn't harsh try manuka oil. If you want to replace the sebum on your skin use jojoba(Very similar to sebum) or emu. In fact, if you are trying to thicken the skin, emu oil works wonders for it and it's also great for taking out the red(As in red spots and red tone), kills bacteria, and conditions the skin really fast and well. Emu oil is a secret that most people don't know about that gets rid of dark circles under eyes because it's usually caused not by lack of sleep or alergies but by thin skin in that area, thus emu oil works wonders. I'd also do the innertalk tapes I've been talking about or the binaural beats as my stress and anxiety was ruining my life and they calmed me down instantly(Those also helped me get into meditation which combined relaxes me to no end). I don't think anything on this thread can help people with real moderate acne either as that may require more things but for mild, mild-moderate people it can work wonders. Oh ya, there were other things that pretty much cleared me at one time or another and weren't harsh at all but I didn't either like the smell(Neem oil), or couldn't be bothered with babysitting it(Kombucha tea). Other things that helped a lot were the aloe-niacimanide solution, the BC glacial clay(Expensive for people outside of BC area but the best clay there is), propolis tincture, tons of Vit C from food sources(Even though it was much less than taking even good absorbing pills, it still helped better and I healed fast), salt(with table or epsom), and aluminum oxide crystals. I experiemented with all of them either seperately or a few at a time and I was always pretty much clear with them but for some reason or another didn't continue, either for the cost or the hassle or whatever. Sorry for the thread hijack, go on... |
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Jan 14 2005, 01:37 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 8-January 05 |
Yep! Thanks Chloe. I just examined my face in a mirror today, and my acned face a long time ago, which greatly depressed me whenever I look at my face, is now, GONE! I am very sure this method works. Very very, 100% sure. Although, not for all people though, just like what I said on my first post.
HOWEVER, MY POINT OF MAKING THIS TOPIC IS THAT THE MORE YOU USE MEDICATIONS, THE MORE YOU DAMAGE YOUR SKIN, AND MAKE IT ACNE PRONE. THIS METHOD IS THE BEST BECAUSE IT ALLOWS TO EFFECTIVELY JUST BE DEPENDENT ON WATER. (IN THE PAST WEEKS, I HAVE USED HOT WATER, NOT INSTANTLY HOT, BUT GRADUALLY WASHING MY FACE FROM WARM TO HOT (WASHING LENGTH: MAXIMUM OF 1 MINUTE)). I know it seems absurd to just use water for acne, but guess what, it works. Why, and how? WELL, JUST LIKE WHAT I SAID, YOU MUST PERFORM THIS IN A GRADUAL MANNER. TRANSFERRING FROM USING MEDICATIONS, THEN QUIT AND USE WATER IMMEDIATELY WOULD OF COURSE BREAK YOU OUT, AND EVEN WORSE, MAKE IT TOTALLY WORSE AND CAUSE CYSTIC AND BIG ACNES. I just made up the benzoyl peroxide to vinegar to water transition. I can't think of any other transition or substitute to vinegar, but I believe that that is the best mid transition. I may be wrong with the accutane thing, and I accept that, because I had no experience with accutane. I just made up a hypothesis about it. However, this water thing really works. In the past three day, my average sleep is 4 hours because of certain projects and etc, and guess what, you expect me to have breakouts right? Well, nope, that didn't happen. I don't know why, but even with vinegar, even by staying up late, I would still get breakouts, while with water, it is different. Sorry though that this isn't a fast solution for acne. You still have to suffer gradually for an approximate length of like 3 to 4 months with various levels of breakouts. However, after your face have transitioned and healed itself from all those crap you put in your face, and Benzoyl Peroxide is included too as a crap, your face will be dependent on nothing else but HOT WATER. Hot water may irritate your face, but I guess it just depends on the individual. I know my face could handle a lot because it has been loaded with crap like benzoyl peroxide in the past so it's used to strong stuff, so I guess I could use HOT WATER. Note: I do not use soap or anything, and am scared to use one. I don't need one because ACNE IS NOT CAUSED BY DIRT! Anyways, there is no overnight solution, or weekly solution, but this solution would certainly work, but only after a few months. Which is better, have an overnight solution such as Benzoyl Peroxide, but be entirely dependent on it forever, or have a long-term solution where you'll be entirely dependent on just WATER. ...yup, your choice is yours.
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Ever wonder why even with medications, you still have acne? http://www.acne.org/messageboard/light-us-t40303.html |
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Jan 14 2005, 01:44 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 8-January 05 |
QUOTE(blackbirdbeatle @ Jan 14 2005, 12:25 AM) Just before I grew out of my acne I came to the conclusion that for me, doing nothing was better than anything(Or at most keeping my regemin at a minimum). If you want a product that kills bacteria better than anything and isn't harsh try manuka oil. If you want to replace the sebum on your skin use jojoba(Very similar to sebum) or emu. In fact, if you are trying to thicken the skin, emu oil works wonders for it and it's also great for taking out the red(As in red spots and red tone), kills bacteria, and conditions the skin really fast and well. Emu oil is a secret that most people don't know about that gets rid of dark circles under eyes because it's usually caused not by lack of sleep or alergies but by thin skin in that area, thus emu oil works wonders. I'd also do the innertalk tapes I've been talking about or the binaural beats as my stress and anxiety was ruining my life and they calmed me down instantly(Those also helped me get into meditation which combined relaxes me to no end). I don't think anything on this thread can help people with real moderate acne either as that may require more things but for mild, mild-moderate people it can work wonders. Oh ya, there were other things that pretty much cleared me at one time or another and weren't harsh at all but I didn't either like the smell(Neem oil), or couldn't be bothered with babysitting it(Kombucha tea). Other things that helped a lot were the aloe-niacimanide solution, the BC glacial clay(Expensive for people outside of BC area but the best clay there is), propolis tincture, tons of Vit C from food sources(Even though it was much less than taking even good absorbing pills, it still helped better and I healed fast), salt(with table or epsom), and aluminum oxide crystals. I experiemented with all of them either seperately or a few at a time and I was always pretty much clear with them but for some reason or another didn't continue, either for the cost or the hassle or whatever. Sorry for the thread hijack, go on... [right][snapback]452911[/snapback][/right] No, it's ok, but you are right, and we have the same almost the same theory. Well, it is just that I haven't been exposed to those kind of products, and am still 17 (Don't judge the book by its age), so I don't have enough money to buy these products constantly. I am sure they would work too, but this water method is the cheapest method I have found. Man, if only if you could know how much sacrifice I had to do to until I figured out this thing. I mean, I have spent millions of hours searching the net with my dialup modem, and reading articles and posts from many different forums, and also, I have gambled my skin just to try this method. I know it is just plain unbelievable for water to cure acne, but that's what I thought too. One of my relatives have been telling me this for a long time, but I didn't believe him because he had a reputation of not being so smart, but he's lucky that he figured this out when he was a kid, so I am jealous that he has clear skin, while his sisters, including my mother and aunts, have traces of scars, and they're the ones that used all these products too.
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Ever wonder why even with medications, you still have acne? http://www.acne.org/messageboard/light-us-t40303.html |
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Jan 14 2005, 03:51 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 9-August 04 |
so, how does this explain why I got acne in the first place when I was 14,...now 19 ? I never used anything other than soap and water before I got acne
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Jan 14 2005, 04:17 AM
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When you were 14, your hormones, just like any other teenager, will be out of place because of that puberty/adolescent stage. Most people, at their teenager years have great possibilities of getting acne, because of our hormones changing which affects stuff that I don't want to go over. Stuff like sebum production and all those shizzies. Ok, now you ask why there are only a few who have acne? Why? Because those few, including you and me, are genetically, or somehow by some force of nature or something, got the bad type of skin, making us prone to acne. And that kind of skin, plus over-excited hormones = acne.
Now, the thing is, after adolescence, or puberty, or teenager years, our hormones will slowly balance itself, which means, less percentage of acquiring acne. That is why some of us rarely get acne after 20s. However, there are a big portion who still get acnes on their 20s or so. Usually, by the time one becomes 16 or 17, their hormones balances itself. Depends on the individual though. Now this is the mistake everyone has been doing: Using strong medications, etc... to cure/prevent their acne because they believe that they have a high moderate or severe acne. Those medications, such as Accutane and such, are only for people who are truly acne prone: those who got it genetically. And those people are just a small percentage of people who actually has acne. Most people, like me, and maybe you, have acne just because of our hormones being unbalanced during our adolescence years. It is not caused by our bad glands, but rather, by our hormones. Those are the ones with severe ones (cuz of bad glands and bad skin acquired genetically). So, we naturally just get acne during those times. Some people think that they have acne because of dirt, so they over-wash and over-scrub and stuff, making their skin more prone. Also, there are those who use strong medications, intended for only moderate or serious acne, such as Benzoyl Peroxide to cure their mild acne. This is dangerous because it will make it even worse. Also, Benzoyl Peroxide will interfere with your sweat glands. This is not good for people who have mild acne, because we have normal glands, and if we constantly pour BP over it, it will ruin it, making you prone to wrinkles. So, by doing all these shizzies, we all irritate and damage our skin, making it more proner to acne. I mean, doing those stuff are needed, but only to a small degree. And now that is where WATER comes. Alright. I think I answered your question.
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Jan 14 2005, 11:44 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 23-November 03 From: brooklyn |
QUOTE(alpha1 @ Jan 14 2005, 02:51 AM) so, how does this explain why I got acne in the first place when I was 14,...now 19 ? I never used anything other than soap and water before I got acne [right][snapback]452954[/snapback][/right] maybe it was the soap that made you breakout. |
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Jan 14 2005, 11:54 AM
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Member Group: Members Joined: 26-November 04 |
so you dont use any moisterizer/face wash or anything...or have you gradually toned it down..till you didnt have to use it anymore?
funny cuz my mother tells me the same thing...you put too many products on your face...I fall under the category mild acne/ no one in my family has acne. i never had acne until i was 14...and i started with the creams and harsh and not so harsh products...and i never got clear. But before then i use to just use water...and put vasoline on my face...which is so greasy and it never broke me out before. Im 22 now..and still have mild acne..i do tend to touch and pick my face alot so that contributes to the problem but....BP gives me these huge cyst..so i stopped with that and started using more natural products...vinegar/aloe vera and moisterizer... thanks for the imput....I think ill give it a try...just got to get that courage you were talking about... |
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Jan 14 2005, 07:59 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 8-January 05 |
QUOTE(pecan-ice @ Jan 14 2005, 10:54 AM) so you dont use any moisterizer/face wash or anything...or have you gradually toned it down..till you didnt have to use it anymore? funny cuz my mother tells me the same thing...you put too many products on your face...I fall under the category mild acne/ no one in my family has acne. i never had acne until i was 14...and i started with the creams and harsh and not so harsh products...and i never got clear. But before then i use to just use water...and put vasoline on my face...which is so greasy and it never broke me out before. Im 22 now..and still have mild acne..i do tend to touch and pick my face alot so that contributes to the problem but....BP gives me these huge cyst..so i stopped with that and started using more natural products...vinegar/aloe vera and moisterizer... thanks for the imput....I think ill give it a try...just got to get that courage you were talking about... [right][snapback]453155[/snapback][/right] Cool. See people? This method is true and real. Hey, pecan-ice, I also had the same situation you had: Once, I didn't have anymore cleanser and stuff so all I did for a week is wash my face with water and just use sunblock. Unbelievably, I thought, it did not break me out! But the thing is, stupid me, is that I continued medications and such, so until I finally figured this most simple regimen, I was still breaking out. I really really cannot believe how I am not breaking out right now. Even if I use all these kinds of creams such as sun-block and chinese creams, I do not break out. Even if I just use water throughout the day, I do not breakout. Even if I sweat, I do not breakout. Cool huh. A once depressed me is now happy. I just hope that my red/brown marks would fade really really really soon.
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Jan 14 2005, 08:06 PM
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boobs Group: Veteran Members Joined: 22-October 04 |
QUOTE(jan carlo @ Jan 13 2005, 02:18 AM) THIS WILL, AND IS PERFECT FOR MILD AND MODERATE ACNE ONLY. SORRY PEOPLE WITH SEVERE ONES. IT'S JUST YOUR CAUSE OF ACNE IS DIFFERENT FROM PEOPLE WITH MILD AND MODERATE. For severe ones, accutane is the perfect solution. Accutane however, is not that effective on mild and moderate cases (I think). Those are the cases where even after using accutane, acne comes back. It is because you have already ruined your skin from strong medications that your skin is already acne prone. Medications: BAD. [right][snapback]451446[/snapback][/right] i stopped reading there. 1) accutane is effective on all types of acne, more so on less severe cases.. look at jessica simpson, she HAD mild acne and then she went on accutane. 2)by medications do you mean bp, sa, or tetracycline? well no duh medications wear off, ur not a genius 3) your new here, dont make a miracle post
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Jan 14 2005, 08:16 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 8-January 05 |
QUOTE(Pika @ Jan 14 2005, 07:06 PM) i stopped reading there. 1) accutane is effective on all types of acne, more so on less severe cases.. look at jessica simpson, she HAD mild acne and then she went on accutane. 2)by medications do you mean bp, sa, or tetracycline? well no duh medications wear off, ur not a genius 3) your new here, dont make a miracle post [right][snapback]453521[/snapback][/right] Well, you don't know what else I said because you stopped reading. I said (I think) on the Accutane thing. And also, later on, I also posted that it's just my hypothesis regarding Accutane. I am not new here. This screenname is new, but I have been here for many months. I just changed screenname and made it more personal rather than just a callsign. Anyways, like I said (you would have read this if you continued on) "I know this works for many people and it's where I learned this. If you don't believe this, I don't care so posting arguments and bashing me will get you nowhere. I already wasted time typing all this to spread a method that would save many of us, and I really do not want to type anymore. Do this method, or don't do this method, I don't care. If you do this and quit because of lack of courage and patience, then I don't care. If you think this is scientifically impossible, then I don't care. If this worked for you, I don't care, but spread the good news for other people too. All I care about is the time I wasted for writing all of these, and my own face. Good luck everyone." But whatever, don't do it, then don't do it, sucks for you. I know a lot of people who have accidentally followed this regimen, and worked, but discontinued because due to lack of courage and not noticing that he or she has not breaked out from this regimen. I am 95% clear now because of this regimen. I mean, what am I still doing in this site? Acne.com? I don't have acne anymore, because of this regimen. Well, guess what, I am doing people a favor of passing on this secret, old knowledge that would cure their acne without medications. I mean, not really cure, but prevent acne. Alright, I really think I shouldn't have put the Accutane thing. I'll take that sentence off.
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Jan 14 2005, 09:48 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 6-December 04 From: San Diego, California |
QUOTE(jan carlo @ Jan 14 2005, 07:16 PM) But whatever, don't do it, then don't do it, sucks for you. I know a lot of people who have accidentally followed this regimen, and worked, but discontinued because due to lack of courage and not noticing that he or she has not breaked out from this regimen. Just a thought. Maybe work on your grammar a little more and people may listen to what you're saying. Back to the topic. I've been on the regimen for, let's say, a little over a month. I think I have made some gains but I am just wondering, is putting BP on my face in the long run going to ruin it for me. Am I going to become BP dependent, never be able to go a day without applying it, or continue to have this irritated lizard like skin on my neck? Also, is my PIH never going to fade (look in my album to see what I'm talking about). Is the regimen smart for the longrun? |
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Jan 14 2005, 10:22 PM
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Veteran Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 26-October 03 |
In the long, long run, anything with oxide in it will not be good. You're skin will age faster and you'll look older than you really are. It's a tradeoff, do BP now and hope that you grow out of it in a few years, or do it for decades and pay the price later.
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Jan 14 2005, 10:50 PM
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![]() back from the dead Group: Veteran Members Joined: 21-July 04 From: East Coast USA |
QUOTE(jan carlo @ Jan 12 2005, 08:23 PM) Benzoyl Peroxide is a temporary acne prevention. However, if it works for you, then sucks for you since you'll be depending on it forever. [right][snapback]451450[/snapback][/right] just like I'm forever dependent on soap, shampoo, moisturizer, sunscreen... let's not forget tooth paste! |
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Jan 15 2005, 09:02 AM
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Jon Carlo - those tips u gave, i've been doing it for some years now (though i still eat a bunch of chocolates every now & then)
I'd been suffering s.e.v.e.r.e acne like forever.. it runs in my family. All my brothers suffered the same. I have had my friend staring at my face and actually told me that she would rather kill herself if she had my problem - I was so stressed out and drastically quit all the medications! Cuz they weren't helping either. Well that was over 5 years ago! And yes, i still had breakouts of big ol' cysts, papules, white heads, etc.. all those bad acnes .. gradually tamed down. As time goes by, the less i worry = less breakouts. Right diets & exercises sure help! Now, i've been doing the vinegar/lemon regimen for almost a month and it helps a lot with complexions and does a real gr8 job preventing breakouts (after a week or 2) as the vinegar/lemon resets skin pH to normal. Now, i only have one small mild acne instead of bad ones..So this works EVEN for those with severe acne problems... Yep, it TAKES TIME, Patience & persistence i also came across a web giving tips for making your own mild cleanser by mixing honey and milk! Ppl with SLS sensitive might want to try this |
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Jan 15 2005, 11:31 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Joined: 25-May 04 |
Jan Carlo, ever think that this worked for you because you grew out of your acne? I didn't get acne bad at all until I was about 16 years old. Since then it became gradually worse until I started using medications which helped to tame it. Now I know for a fact that if I stopped using these medications and only used water, I would have a horrific breakout, and no matter how many months I waited, it wouldn't go away. This is because I am genetically predisposed to acne. My father had severe cystic acne, and my mother also had bad acne when she was young. Anyways the point is that you probably are just one of those lucky enough to have grown out of it at a young age. Besides, I wouldn't be declaring my acne miraculously cured if I were as young as you
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Jan 15 2005, 01:15 PM
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boobs Group: Veteran Members Joined: 22-October 04 |
why would you go from being noticed in the community, and just make a new sn?
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