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Posted 21 May 2006 - 01:02 AM

http://www.oratin.com/kw_overeating_causes_acne.htm

Too much protein, too much carbs, too much fat - it doesn't matter which one, but too much of anything produces too much energy, and if it's not used up right away, it goes into sebum production.

Makes as much sense as any other theory I guess. From personal experience, I can see how this is possibly true.

By the way, working out (sore muscles) are good for acne, because left-over energy goes into restoring the muscle tissue.

If you sit at home all day - eat less than you would if you were working physically all day.

All the other stuff (candida/"bad" protein/dirty colon/glycemic index) all contributes to the problem, and can be used as guidelines for a healthy diet, but it seems that over-eating is the MAIN problem in my opinion and experience.

Like the Buddhists say: don't eat when you're not hungry, and stop eating your meal while you're still a little hungry (70% full)

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 01:08 AM

i dont agree with the diet + acne corrolation
BUT
i do agree with teplo 100% here, i have a fast metabolism and i do find if i eat more and i do nothing
my skin seems more likely to pop a pimple up for me.


this thread might become very interesting if we can get other peoples experiences on it!

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 01:17 AM

It also comes back to the idea that back in the caveman days, it was hard to get food, so people had to do physical work all day, and didn't have a lot of foods every day.

Same reason why people in 3rd world countries don't have acne - they're too poor to stuff themselves all day while sitting at home and watching TV.

I lived in France for a summer and ate small meals 2-3 times per day. No acne at all. I'm sure the sun/sweating/relaxation/constant walking contributed to it too, but the small meals were the key. When I didn't have a meal, I had a candy bar, and still no acne.


For a few months now I've been eating 100% organic, vegetarian raw food, and I still have acne, because I eat HUGE amounts of this food, in order not to feel hungry. I had less acne when I ate small McDonalds meals 2 times per day.

Here's what I think we should be eating: SMALL, BALANCED meals. Small amount of fat, protein, carbs, in equal amounts. Chicken breast sandwich on a roll with lettuce and tomato for example.

Eat the meal before physical activity, not before going to sleep.

I'm sure someone can calculate exact numbers of how much protein/calories your body uses per day, but I don't know how one would do that.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 01:19 AM

i only thought about this lastnight, i had a few slices of pizza at my friends flat as me an all the boys were gettin drunk an watching trash tv.
anyway i had eaten a slice an was pickin up the second and no1 else had finished 1st
an ALLL of em got clear skin an i just thought
" i wonder if because i seem to eat fast, taht might contribute to my acne problems... hmmm... na im jus drunk"

hehe
but maybe there is some truth there man.
especially after your experiences in france!

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 01:31 AM

here's my example "France" diet:

Morning: ham and cheese sandwich

then I went walking around Paris all day, eating ice cream and ham and cheese sandwiches when I got hungry.

Evening: yogurt, ham and cheese sandwich, fruit

evening walk


When to eat complex carbs (pasta, rice, bread): 1 hour before physical activity

When to eat simple carbs (ice cream, candy, chocolate): during physical activity


I guess it's the same thing they tell fat people: JUST EAT LESS!!

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 01:40 AM

i just want to emphasise not to starve yourself for the desperate people that want to get rid of their hated acne
as it wil give you much worse things to worry about rather than just acne.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 01:51 AM

QUOTE(Dami4n @ May 21 2006, 01:40 AM)

i just want to emphasise not to starve yourself for the desperate people that want to get rid of their hated acne
as it wil give you much worse things to worry about rather than just acne.

well... yea.. I've tried fasts many many many times. Tried one today actually, but then I went to a party, got drunk and ate a bunch of crappy food a few hours after the fast's start.

Basically, make your body use more energy: if you sit at a desk all day, then work out at the gym a few times per week, so your muscles hurt a little. Then your body will be using energy to repair your muscles.

I heard similar things form a Korean lady who ate very strict meals. She never talked about protein, carbs, etc. but just "energy" in general.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 01:56 AM

yea man i seriously think this is worth thinking about for EVERYONE even if you believe acne and diet isnt linked at all
it does make sense in a strange way.

the corrolation between eating larger meals and not much exercise, but its people with faster metabolisms so they dont gain weight, but instead get some level of acne..



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Posted 21 May 2006 - 02:15 AM

here we go: http://weightloss.about.com/cs/nutrition101/l/blcalories.htm

it's all about calories I guess. The combination of energy derived from fat/protein/carbs.

so since I weigh 120, I need 1,200 calories per day. That's about 3 6" subway sandwiches. Except their stuff is disproportionately high in carbs and sodium (which causes acne).

Salty, sweet and spicy food causes acne for me. For sure. Tested it, tried it, proved it.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 02:19 AM

I got fast metaolism. Hmmm...I didn't exercise for a few days (3 days to be exact) & I sat there eating chocolate and other foods (not saying choc cause acne). I also slept late. The next day I got a pimple or two.

I do think exercise helps & not overeating helps too.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 02:19 AM

yea its wel interesting
i personally find my diet affects my acne.
there is a defo corrolation there for me aswel.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 02:27 AM

The article is definately interesting. Just finished reading it.

Has a few eye openers for me.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 02:29 AM

QUOTE(DonsBall @ May 21 2006, 09:27 AM)

The article is definately interesting. Just finished reading it.

Has a few eye openers for me.


do you have any sort of connection with this donsball?

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 03:07 AM

interesting indeed
Some tips to help u not overeat:
I guess eating 5-6 small meals per day as bodybuilders do is really the best option. Another thing i've noticed is that eating while doing anything else (watching TV) makes you consume alot more food than u should. This happens because you do not only have to feed the stomach, your brain has to record the event of eating food well enough to stop making you think your hungry. Also when you have finished a small meal and think it should have been enough but it isn't, wait for 10-15 mins and see if you are still hungry. I'm not exactly sure why you have to wait these 10-15 mins but I guess it has something to do wih the stomach stretching and making you feel full.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 03:10 AM

my advise is from what i do which is
after a meal il always drink a green tea

it helps get the bad toxins out of your body from the food you ate.
leaving you with a higher good/crap ratio.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 07:22 AM

QUOTE(Dami4n @ May 21 2006, 05:10 AM)

my advise is from what i do which is
after a meal il always drink a green tea

it helps get the bad toxins out of your body from the food you ate.
leaving you with a higher good/crap ratio.


I tend to drink green tea after meals as well for that specific purpose.
As for your over-eating and acne correlation, it's interesting. I'm gona do some research into it.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 07:35 AM

I do overeat sometimes, but I have to say I have found this doesn't increase or decrease my acne... If this were the case how come fat people do not generally have more spots than slimmer people? It doesn't make sense to me... otherwise all fat people would be spotty lol...

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 07:37 AM

na ur not seeing our link here

what we are saying is
some people seem to put on weight if they eat and dont have acne

the other type ie us
dont put on ANY WEIGHT at all (i kno this is true for me)
an simply our pores produce more sebum which increases likelyhood of spots.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 08:37 AM

Fat peoples' bodies choose to deal with extra food or "bad foods" by storing them as fat. People with acne ( it seems most acne with acne are slim with a super fast metabolism), their bodies choose to eliminate excess or allergic foods through the skin instead of as fat.

Personally, this is totally true. I'm allergic/intolerant to dairy, peanuts and, especially, fish. If I eat any of these my face and shoulders break out. WIth fish, just eating 1 salmon fillet can result in 8-10 pimples the very next morning...weird, painful ones that only pop up after eating fish or fish oils...my body cannot digest it for some reason anexcretes it through the skin.

Since making this correlation, I stopped eating fish, taking fish oil and have been 98% clear the last month. So it depends on how *your* body decides to deal with problem foods.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 10:24 AM

I myself am the kind who can eat all I want without gaining fat. When I think about it, arent most (male) acne sufferers thin? Hm..




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