Urine therapy...
#201
Posted 11 August 2009 - 06:39 PM
#202
Posted 14 August 2009 - 04:03 AM
And to clear up 'Labgirl'...
"Actually urine is a waste product. It's the product of out bodies' excratory systems...."
Yes. Yes it is. Just because the internal organs don't want it, it doesn't mean the external ones don't.
An example is fertilizer. I'm sure eating chicken shit won't help us. But it helps plants thanks to the nitrogen and phosphate. Each organ craves different nutrients.
"chemically there isn't much in urine would could cure acne.......the slight antimicorbial action and the excess of water soluble vitamins don't do much......the solutes in urine are just that solutes.....in water....."
Urine is just constituted of vitamins. And if you knew what solubility meant, you'd know it was a good thing. You mention that urine is mostly made of water. Well thanks to the excremental hypothesis of the quasi-superficial epidermal, it will filter the 'solutes'. If it were fat soluble, then it wouldn't go as far, like your somewhat-inefficient retinoid derivatives.
"Water soluble molecules have a hell of a time pasing through the epidermal lipid barrier......fat soluble molecues penetrate with greater ease......so exactly what does applying to to skin do????"
But that's the point. The barrier removes the covalent bond with water. A nice, clean filter.
"That's where the good stuff is......lipid soluble metabolites like the metabloites of vitamin A, like trans- retinoic acid, cis-9-retinoic acid, cis-11-retinoic acid, and cis-13-retinoic acid (Isotretionin) are found in feces.....not urine.......But who in their right mind would put feces on their face???...... "
The good stuff? Oral retinoids will yank your neurotransmitters 5-hydroxy-tryptamine, norepinephrine, dopamine, epinephrine, GABA, acetylcholine, and all the rest considerable amounts for the rest of your life. Providing you're at the threshold limit for it to work on you. Thyroid levels go down, which slows metabolism. Synapses shrink to pathetic sizes, hence the migraines. I won't bother going further.............
OMG!!!!! Frist of all the epidermis doesn't filter out solutes from solution.....they say in solution and the solution must pass through the epidermal lipid barrier, since water and water soluble molecules can't pass though the lipid barrier easily they need to pass through the corenocytes of the stratum corneum......which have thick cell envlopes that make penetration almost impossible.........Um and when I said "good stuff" I was referring to topical and oral retinoids.......retinoic acid blows allantoin out of the water in efficiency........
Alanine, total ..... 38 mg/day
Arginine, total ..... 32 mg/day
Ascorbic acid ..... 30 mg/day
Allantoin ..... 12 mg/day
Amino acids, total ..... 2.1 g/day
Bicarbonate ..... 140 mg/day
Biotin ..... 35 mg/day
Calcium ..... 23 mg/day
Creatinine ..... 1.4 mg/day
Cystine ..... 120 mg/day
Dopamine ..... 0.40 mg/day
Epinephrine ..... 0.01 mg/day
Folic acid ..... 4 mg/day
Glucose ..... 100 mg/day
Glutamic acid ..... 308 mg/day
Glycine ..... 455 mg/day
Inositol ..... 14 mg/day
Iodine ..... 0.25 mg/day
Iron ..... 0.5 mg/day
Lysine, total ..... 56 mg/day
Magnesium ..... 100 mg/day
Manganese ..... 0.5 mg/day
Methionine, total ..... 10 mg/day
Nitrogen, total ..... 15 g/day
Ornithine ..... 10 mg/day
Pantothenic acid ..... 3 mg/day
Phenylalanine ..... 21 mg/day
Phosphorus, organic ..... 9 mg/day
Potassium ..... 2.5 mg/day
Proteins, total ..... 5 mg/day
Riboflavin ..... 0.9 mg/day
Tryptophan, total ..... 28 mg/day
Tyrosine, total ..... 50 mg/day
Urea ..... 24.5 mg/day
Vitamin B6 ..... 100 mg/day
Vitamin B12 ..... 0.03 mg/day
Zinc ..... 1.4 mg/day
[In 1975, one of the founders of Miles Laboratories, Dr. A.H. Free, published his book Urinalysis in Clinical Laboratory Practice]
Have fun finding a medication with that amount of ingredients for the same price.
Could you do me a favor and tell me exactly what each of those substances does to the skin (nevermind the fact that most of them can't penetrate beyond the upper layers of the stratum corneum)....and exactly how each of those actully influences comedo formation and sebum production.........
And they seen to be in such a low concentration ....how in the world would they do anything?.........and I dount that that list is all that urine contains........it depends on if you smpke or drink alcohol.....injest caffine......and how much water you drink.....whatever medications you are on and you diet in general.......
I know what retinoids do....but I'm not sure about all that other stuff....(I have put allantoin on my skin.....it helps heal wounds).....Please explain.......
K thanks....
Why chat about all this mumbo jumbo scientific shit in an alternative treatment post? I don't even suffer from acne and I use piss on my face because it makes your skin look great. The bottom line is, piss is free and does a great job for just about everything. The only reason it isn't commercially recognised is because it would put so many people out of a job. Think about your GP - Is he/she going to say "Hey, use piss on your face, it's really effective and doesn't cost a thing" or are they going to say "Use this retonoid for however long then come back and see me ... because I know it will hardly work and you are making sure I get paid my 80k a year"? It's kind of a no brainer in my opinion. And anyway, back to the real point, why come onto this lads post just to slate him and what he does?
#203
Posted 14 August 2009 - 10:03 AM
Well I'm glad for you that it's working. But I would still never try it. Just like you probably wouldn't ever try pee. No point trying to convince each other.
I honestly don't know why people feel the need to say something rude or negative about it. It's almost as though it actually makes them mad that we're trying something that they can't wrap their heads around. Thanks for sticking up for us, lol.
#204
Posted 14 August 2009 - 10:24 AM
I've been using UT for about a week now. My skin feels so soft
Some of you may know that I've tried the caveman regimen. It DOES work, and I DO consider this part of an all-natural regimen. The reasons why I'm not going through all the flaking and rashes is because A) I'm too much of a wuss, and B) I'm a girl, and I feel extremely self-conscious. So I'm not abandoning it.
Anyway, I have extremely sensitive skin. I broke out and got chemical burns when I finally got so frustrated with my very mild yet stubborn acne and used a harsh product, and ended up with moderate acne all over my face. My skin has always been this way. Every day I drink a lot of water and moisturize everywhere, yet I can be driving, and if the A/C is blowing on my hands, they can dry out severely.
Crazy, huh?
Well, Urine is both beneficial and pH balanced, so no harm done.
I find it more and more bearable to drink as the days pass, and as long as I keep my diet clean and low sodium, it has little flavor. The crap from the water we drink is filtered in our bodies and the toxins are removed through our feces, so urine is purer than water. It also hydrates significantly better.
I apply fresh urine several times a day on days that I stay home. I will decrease application as time goes on and before I go back to school.
This is probably the most disgusting part of the regimen, and it's only optional. I think it speeds the process.
Basically, I take 2 c of Urine and boil it down to about 1/4-1/8 consistency. The smell is appallingly disturbing, but it's worth it.
At first your skin will look worse. This is the purging most people experience around the 2 week point, but accelerated. That's what happened to me.
How do I know that my skin was purging and not breaking out?
-They were all old zits coming to a head
-My skin still somehow managed to glow
-Blackheads on my nose are practically disappearing
I won't say this will cure me, or that it will cure you, because I don't want to jinx it or jump the gun xD But I still feel pretty good about it.
#205
Posted 15 August 2009 - 08:56 AM
Background, I am in my 40s have very bumpy skin and get a few additional hormone caused pimples twice monthly. They are generally under the corners of my mouth and on my temples and upper back. I have very sensitive skin and cannot use most acne products or aggressively wash. I use Cetaphil only.
I started using urine on my face 5 days ago, at a time when the end of the month zits were expected and a bad mid month break out was just clearing. It has also been quite a bit warmer this week than previously.
I chose to pee right on a cotton pad and apply it directly to my face. Very simple. I do this in the evening only. The first two nights, I was conscious of it being there and washed it off after a few minutes. After that I just left it there and went to bed.
I find it to be slightly drying and need to use a lot of lip balm even though I am careful to keep it away from my mouth. I dont smell it at all, wet or dry and dont smell it in the garbage can either. (where I throw away the pads after use)
I fully expected to come back here and say I found zero benefit. The pimples that were almost gone cleared up completely, and no new zits have emerged except for one on my chin that has decided to retreat. Some of the little bumps have turned into hard balls and cleared.
My face isnt completely clear but there is noticeable improvement. I intend to continue at least a couple of weeks.
#206
Posted 15 August 2009 - 08:01 PM
Background, I am in my 40s have very bumpy skin and get a few additional hormone caused pimples twice monthly. They are generally under the corners of my mouth and on my temples and upper back. I have very sensitive skin and cannot use most acne products or aggressively wash. I use Cetaphil only.
I started using urine on my face 5 days ago, at a time when the end of the month zits were expected and a bad mid month break out was just clearing. It has also been quite a bit warmer this week than previously.
I chose to pee right on a cotton pad and apply it directly to my face. Very simple. I do this in the evening only. The first two nights, I was conscious of it being there and washed it off after a few minutes. After that I just left it there and went to bed.
I find it to be slightly drying and need to use a lot of lip balm even though I am careful to keep it away from my mouth. I dont smell it at all, wet or dry and dont smell it in the garbage can either. (where I throw away the pads after use)
I fully expected to come back here and say I found zero benefit. The pimples that were almost gone cleared up completely, and no new zits have emerged except for one on my chin that has decided to retreat. Some of the little bumps have turned into hard balls and cleared.
My face isnt completely clear but there is noticeable improvement. I intend to continue at least a couple of weeks.
Congratulations!!! Good luck and keep us posted!
For my own little update...
I woke up this morning with almost all of my existing acne as only tiny little pustules.
So little inflammation!
This might be the answer. I think I'm past the purge, and for clear skin maybe?
#207
Posted 15 August 2009 - 09:59 PM
UPDATE: I'm going to start this again real soon. During the winter break I will do a 2-week urine fast. So yeah 14 days of nothing but drinking my piss. I've done it for 10 days before but this time I will be MUCH more mentally prepared. I'll try to keep a log.
Edited by PeePotteryPete, 03 October 2009 - 05:35 PM.
#208
Posted 16 August 2009 - 05:11 PM
Urine has cures for some things we don't even know urine cures yet. I'm glad to see someone is trying this. Let me know how it goes.
#209
Posted 17 August 2009 - 10:02 PM
#210
Posted 18 August 2009 - 12:56 AM
#211
Posted 11 September 2009 - 09:15 PM
Many high profile people us UT and I wouldn't knock it. Many Brazilian MMA fighters use it, including Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva. Two of the best in my opinion.
#212
Posted 12 September 2009 - 01:24 PM
Two of the best...period. I'm glad to hear two of my biggest sports heroes are all for UT. Also one of my favorite commentators, Joe Rogan, has done UT. When I say UT (urine therapy), I mean actually drinking your own piss btw.
I've been doing this on and off but I'm definitely gonna go at it again, with more focus and energy! But nowadays I do UT strictly for health benefits and spiritualism.
Edited by PeePotteryPete, 12 September 2009 - 01:48 PM.
#213
Posted 13 September 2009 - 04:54 AM
there is some BP in the regimen i am on now, and i haven't much results. pretty standard for any type of facial products i use *sigh*.
edit - how do i go about starting this? doing some googling there seems to be differences of opinions. should i drink my urine in the morning (all of it or some? add anything to it?) and apply it to my face?
when i do that do i let it sit and soak in and not rinse it off at all?
does the smell linger?
would i be able to cloak it with my aftershave moisturizer?
should i drink urine twice a day, morning and evening? apply it twice a day to my skin?
anybody who has does this, care to share how you started and what you are doing?
edit 2: i drank urine last night before going to sleep, wasn't too bad, but my morning urine today was ugh didn't drink it. doing some more googling it seems morning urine is the best to drink for urine therapy?
any help is appreciated.
Edited by Asdfqaz, 13 September 2009 - 07:45 PM.
#214
Posted 15 September 2009 - 05:06 PM
Here's my story with UT:
First of all, I have mild to moderate acne (more to the mild side).
I'm currently a freshman in college...but I just started getting acne near the end of senior year (april/may ish). just right in time for prom...
Anyway, I've tried a lot of drugstore cleansers/medication, but that made my skin worse.
Went to the doctor's and she told me I didn't need accutane, so she prescribed minocycline.
Took that for a month. Also used Retin-A with it...
Didn't notice any changes except that the topical gel (Retin-A) made my spots go darker.
By about July, I got really frustrated and decided to look up some home remedies.
Tried the ACV+honey+sugar thing...that didn't work.
Tried the olive oil thing...that didn't work.
Tried the asprin mask...that didn't work.
Finally, I saw Urine Therapy, right here on the acne.org message boards.
My first reaction was like "there is no way I'm going to do that"...
A few weeks later I decided to try it.
I've been using UT for about...2 1/2 months, and I'd say my acne is all gone.
I'll give you my regimen, and then a few quick notes about UT.
My Regimen
1) Wake up
2) Wash face with a mild cleanser
3) Put urine in a small container
4) Put on gloves (lol..I don't know why I do this...it feels cleaner this way)
5) Get makeup remover pads and spread it onto areas that are affected
6) Let it soak in
7) Change clothes, eat breakfast, etc.
8) Rinse off before going out (I sometimes forget to do this step, but no one notices..
9) Come back home, and repeat steps 2-6
10) Before I go to bed, I also repeat steps 2-6
So basically, I do UT three times a day.
I do not drink the urine though...I only use it topically.
Quick Notes:
- I do not have the courage to tell ppl about UT. People have been asking me what I've been using, but I tell them I just changed my diet, got more sleep..etc. which is half the truth
- When on UT, you MUST have a good, proper diet. Cut away all those greasy, fried, microwaveable stuff. And eat lots of veggies. AND drink lots of water.
- I've heard from other ppl that their pee smells. Mine doesn't...and I believe it's because of the clean diet I'm eating
- I've also read from this forum that some ppl on UT might get back lots of acne by week2 (or something) but that never happened to me
- UT doesn't work for red marks, or old acne scars unfortunately...
that's all for now.
I'll add more later if I feel there's something missing.
So don't be afraid people.
Everyone should try it. It's just another home remedy.
And don't get discouraged if it doesn't work for you.
As for me, right now I'm trying to get rid of my red acne marks.
and I hope they go away sooooon.
#215
Posted 17 September 2009 - 12:01 AM
i had to goin ance.orf after google researching urine therapy on the net...
this is how my story goes...
i have been a ance suffer since i was like 12... now im 19 and i gets worse every year i get older!!! (i guess)....anywho!!! i was searchin on the net afta totally giving up with off the counter products an medication perscriped by the doctor...
i hav used for proactiv for a bout a year ... i did kinda work bt didn't take away the acne fully...
yeh so i was saying... so i was serching on the net to find wat i could do naturally to cure ance...
ok i go uni an im broke as shit soo i dn't hav much cash for fancy stuff!! lol
yeh so i can acros some strange stuff that jus mak u say "really!!!" ... like for exmple... potato juice for ance an ance scarring, asprine masks... dermabrasion by egg shells!!! an then i came across urination to cure acne!!! at this point i fort ok wtf!!! BUT BUT!!! i remember ages ago my mum telling me with a laugh that putting urine on ur skin can help ance!! (she rid it in newspaper all the way from asian remedies!!!)... so yeh at first i was one of those people who said "nah that way to gross!!" BUT i was desperate i would have to admit for something that was going to definately work!!! so i went to sleep that night jus thinking about it and if i should really give it a go!!!
Ohhhh an at this point... i was using patato on my skins!!! lolzz i jus explain that actually...
yeh i have acne marks an acne... an researched that potato juice is good for ance...
we hav loads in the house an fort that i mite aswemm as try it so i did... (theres actually a Youtube video that demonstrates how to it, type potato for acne).. if u can't find it let me know an i will look for the link and post it up..
Anywho!!
u get a potato (raw one) ... cuts thin slices of it and rub them on ur faces esp on ur acne areas... prob bout 5 slices.. leave it for 15 mins an then wash an pat dry... i usually do this jus before going to bed...
i did this and noticed that it really work and bort the acne to head.. meaning that i had white heads on my skin were it was red and a pimple was goin to form... i'v been doing this for a while now... prob bout 3 weeks and it kinda works ... so would recommend it ...
yeh so going bak to UT...
yeh soo i fort about the idea of urine and fort wat would i hav to lose and that i should be brave and just try it...
so yes i been trying it now for about 1 week i would hav to say... and would hav to say that makes very nice... it makes it glow... i mean i have acne in certain areas... i don't have it on my forhead at all an in some areas on my cheeks and stuff i don't ... but along my jaw lines have VERY bad acne... so yeh the area that i don't have acne showed much more clarity.. like it evened out my skin...
atm i don't know wat to say about it... i mean it only been a week and i had quite a lot of acne around my jaw line like more has occurred... but i remember something my doctor said to me ages ago when i got some perscribed medicine form him.... he said that it would get a little worse before it gets better because all the pimples that are going to come out like a week later are coming out now... so i guess u hav to be patient...
im very please about coming across this discussion of UT as i wasn't sua if i was doing the right thing of puttin urine on my face !!! so i gives me a sense of hope i guess i could say...
also... can anyone also giv a advice on wat cleanser would be the best to use... atm im not using any cleanser as i was using proactiv bt not anymore... 1/ because its to expensive 2/ it didn't really work .... so im jus currently using a face clothe that i soak with hot water an rub my face with (should i even do that !!
#216
Posted 03 October 2009 - 05:38 PM
http://www.acne.org/urine-therapy-reviews/524/page1.html
Edited by PeePotteryPete, 03 October 2009 - 05:39 PM.
#217
Posted 03 October 2009 - 09:04 PM
I broke out!
My question is... do people normally experience an initial breakout? I tried UT for 2 wks and quit because my acne worsened rapidly. I know it probably takes longer than that to find a solution but I couldn't handle it.
The first morning after I tried it I felt my face and RAN to the restroom because the bumps I had went down!!! But it was all downhill from there.
I haven't done UT in a few nights and my face has calmed down. I really wanted it to be my miracle cure. haha.
#218
Posted 03 October 2009 - 09:12 PM
#219
Posted 05 October 2009 - 02:52 AM
That's when I had really bad acne. It didn't work for me. Just remember, don't eat asparagus while doing this. Unless you like the smell.
#220
Posted 26 October 2009 - 02:30 PM
none of them fully cleared my acne and i have moderate acne and really bad breakouts every month.
i guess i stumbled on using urine for acne on this site so i decided i'd try it since i was soo fed up with everything else.
i've been using it for a week now and my skin is soo much better, pretty much almost clear and i haven't seen it like this in so long, it feels great.
basically i really encourage anyone who has been struggling with it to try it.. fresh urine or one - 3 day old urine works too? even though the smell gets really bad.. but point is it honestly clears up your skin and evens out the tone of it.
i also changed my eating habits.. i stopped eating greasy foods and try to eat an apple a day and stay away from a lot of dairy products.
that might of helped too.
so i definitely recommend this
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