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[wenc3160]

I am new to the board and I have a few questions if anybody help. I have sebaceous cysts for three years now all in a localized area. I have been to four (4)!!!! dermatologists and nothing they have perscribed has helped. The last dermatologist I went to recommended eight treatments of dermabrasion which did absolutely nothing but put me further in debt (put in cc) than what I already was. She perscribed Tazarac but my insurance denied the claim. I liked it because it helped with the oily problem all over the face. I thought no big deal, I'll pay for it myself. HA!!! the script was $144 so I told the pharmacist not to fill it. Anyway, I have ordered glycolic acid and super copper peptide serum which has helped tremendously. I also order the TCA peel but am now afraid to use it after what I have read others say about it. My question is that has anybody use it without "down time" or would you recommend just doing the peel in sections if "down time" is not available?
Also, I started tanning to get some color before I do the TCA peel so that I can go without makeup (since that is taboo) for atleast 10 days. Is there a harm in tanning when just doing sections of the face?

[White]

i dunno what a sebaceous cyst is? care to enlighten?

Have u tried manuka oil ?

that always murdered my cysts fast but it smells like shit

[wenc3160]

i dunno what a sebaceous cyst is? care to enlighten?

Have u tried manuka oil ?

that always murdered my cysts fast but it smells like shit

secaceous cysts to my knowledge are like white nodules deep in the skin that occur from a clogged pore. they do not have a head on them and can take forever to come to the surface. when they are new they are like a little ball under the skin but spread into the surrounding pores. I don't have just one, but what a call a colony. glycoli acid is good at making them come to the surface but they are like still attached deep into the dermis and cause scarring when you try to pick them out.

What is manuka oil and where could I find it?

[White]

I ordered mine from manukaoil.com or .org i forgot.

google it because im not exactly sure what it is, all i know is it has antiviral/anti bacterial properties and when i put it on my spots it killed them pretty quick.

but it really smells bad but i think its good to have around for those sebaceous cysts.

[retaly]

i dunno what a sebaceous cyst is? care to enlighten?

Have u tried manuka oil ?

that always murdered my cysts fast but it smells like shit

secaceous cysts to my knowledge are like white nodules deep in the skin that occur from a clogged pore. they do not have a head on them and can take forever to come to the surface. when they are new they are like a little ball under the skin but spread into the surrounding pores. I don't have just one, but what a call a colony. glycoli acid is good at making them come to the surface but they are like still attached deep into the dermis and cause scarring when you try to pick them out.

What is manuka oil and where could I find it?

thats what u got?

if yes im trying to find a solution for that for the last 7 years...
that makes my depressed, i cant stand it anymore, i wanan die when i find new one like this
i got about 10...
my derm prescribed me vitamin a peels and differin, but it didnt help
im sooooooooooooooo depressed from that crap...
i wanna know how to prevent new ones as well..

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[LabGirl81]

thats what u got?

if yes im trying to find a solution for that for the last 7 years...
that makes my depressed, i cant stand it anymore, i wanan die when i find new one like this
i got about 10...
my derm prescribed me vitamin a peels and differin, but it didnt help
im sooooooooooooooo depressed from that crap...
i wanna know how to prevent new ones as well..

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You think those are sebaceous cysts??? Those are tiny whiteheads. That is a very mild case of acne you have. Nothing some gentle exfoliation coldn't clear up. If you want to go the perscription route retin-a micro of differin would work wonders. By the looks of it you don't even need to used BP, your acne is non-inflammatory....

Sebaceous cysts aren't even acne. They aren't cystic acne lesions. They are a type of keratin cyst. is a closed sac below the surface of the skin that is filed with a fatty white, semi-solid material also known as sebum. My mother never had acne, but has had sebacous cysts. They aren't red and inflamed like acne cysts, and she saus they don't hurt (acne cysts hurt like hell). She used to get them drained or extracted.
A cotrizine injections doesn't help this type of cyst...... Sebaceous cysts can occure with or with out acne lesions present......They aren't considered "acne"

[retaly]

thats what u got?

if yes im trying to find a solution for that for the last 7 years...
that makes my depressed, i cant stand it anymore, i wanan die when i find new one like this
i got about 10...
my derm prescribed me vitamin a peels and differin, but it didnt help
im sooooooooooooooo depressed from that crap...
i wanna know how to prevent new ones as well..

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You think those are sebaceous cysts??? Those are tiny whiteheads. That is a very mild case of acne you have. Nothing some gentle exfoliation coldn't clear up. If you want to go the perscription route retin-a micro of differin would work wonders. By the looks of it you don't even need to used BP, your acne is non-inflammatory....

Sebaceous cysts aren't even acne. They aren't cystic acne lesions. They are a type of keratin cyst. is a closed sac below the surface of the skin that is filed with a fatty white, semi-solid material also known as sebum. My mother never had acne, but has had sebacous cysts. They aren't red and inflamed like acne cysts, and she saus they don't hurt (acne cysts hurt like hell). She used to get them drained or extracted.
A cotrizine injections doesn't help this type of cyst...... Sebaceous cysts can occure with or with out acne lesions present......They aren't considered "acne"

thats what im telling you i got them for years... inever had acne.. only excessive oil production, blackheads and regular whiteheads once a year. this one 'aint painful, they'r in the same color of the skin, they'r soft, and i got them for YEARS and i saw 2 new ones year ago, really small ones, out of nothing... my derm told me its from clogged pores, douno im all confused and i hate them so much, i wish i could remove them somehow without scarring, my derm gave me vitamin a , retin-a, differin, tried all of them, nothing damn helped but i liked differin cause it removed some blackheads i had and made my skin more smoother, now i gonna use green cream level 3 for good period of time to smooth my skin and keep it in good shape maybe also try to remove this damn oil production but those things u see here... i think they'll never disappear from themselfs douno what to do

P.S. : i already got few surface small scars from playing with my skin, removing blackheads and stuff... hopefully green cream will fix it after year of work

[LabGirl81]

You don't look like you actually have acne. They look almost like milia, but arent white (that I can't really see from the picture). If they stay there for like years without changing they could be tiny sebaceous cysts.....but sebaseous cysts eventually get bigger as more sebum accumulates.....sebaceous cysts are hard, like little grains of sand....

They could be milia which are soft, but usually appear lighter than surrounding skin the skin.....milia never go away, unless properly extracted by an incision in the skin (they do not ccur inside pores, but under the epidermis)....milia are tiny cysts filled with keratin.....

Whatever they are they won't disappear by themselves....if they are sebasous cysts you can have them drained or extracted.....milia can be removed by an incesion in the top layers of skin and puhed out.....
I'm suprised that retin-a didn't do anything, even if they were sebaceous cysts they should have resolved on retin-a.....

If they were clogged pores or whiteheads the retin-a would have resolved them, which is making me think you are dealing with something other than acne......

By the way you have great skin.....I wish my skin looked like that.....

[beentheredonethat]

If it is actually a sebaceous cyst (epidermal cyst), none of the prescriptions in the world will help. They must be surgically extracted whole.

[LabGirl81]

If it is actually a sebaceous cyst (epidermal cyst), none of the prescriptions in the world will help. They must be surgically extracted whole.

Retin-a can thin the epidermis enough for the contents of the cyst to be squeezed out or extracted through the opening of the sebaceous follicle, but unelss all of it's contents are removed, they easilycan return.....but aren't they usually much larger.....

those actually look like they could be milia (one of them looks white in the picture)....

Milia cannot be squeezed out or extracted through a follicular opening, because they do not occur insde the sebaceous follicles, but rather between the layers of keratinocytes in the epiderms.....I got a few of these near my eyes......they will never ever go away.....they've been there for 13 years......

[retaly]

You don't look like you actually have acne. They look almost like milia, but arent white (that I can't really see from the picture). If they stay there for like years without changing they could be tiny sebaceous cysts.....but sebaseous cysts eventually get bigger as more sebum accumulates.....sebaceous cysts are hard, like little grains of sand....

They could be milia which are soft, but usually appear lighter than surrounding skin the skin.....milia never go away, unless properly extracted by an incision in the skin (they do not ccur inside pores, but under the epidermis)....milia are tiny cysts filled with keratin.....

Whatever they are they won't disappear by themselves....if they are sebasous cysts you can have them drained or extracted.....milia can be removed by an incesion in the top layers of skin and puhed out.....
I'm suprised that retin-a didn't do anything, even if they were sebaceous cysts they should have resolved on retin-a.....

If they were clogged pores or whiteheads the retin-a would have resolved them, which is making me think you are dealing with something other than acne......

By the way you have great skin.....I wish my skin looked like that.....

i think i got this sebaseous cysts because when i took vitamin a + differin, one of them got smaller, now its got again bigger, but thats only one, rest stayed the same... i dont think i got milia but i got this cysts for
about few good years.
i didnt use retin-a/differin each day.. only 3-4 times a week...
one thing for sure, its not acne, i got excessive oil production that caused my blackheads and this damn cysts also it could happened from a skin trauma - i've extracted blackheads in the past and that another reason could trigger it. thing is how the hell can i deal with it, i've had enough with it

should i try what wenc3160 tried? glycolic acids? i afarid from that ..

this pictures are atleast for year+ ago, the shiness 'aint seen here...
believe me pictures are always seems so nice but... when u look good in the mirror u always find things..
this cysts caused me to feel low self-esteem for about 8 years till today i said fuck it, people die from cancer and i got low self esteem cause of damn sebum cysts, but it really upsets me, really, because we'r in 2006 and in all this damn electronic crap there isnt one thing that can remove this damn thing that i see every morning in the mirror!?!?
im going re use differin abit and then move to green cream level 3 for a period of time .. i wanna see if my oil production will decrease, never tried it for period of time, i wanna check it out, sometimes i see myself in a pool, like im all sweating, it sucks, maybe its good for healing and all the skin resistability, but i dont care in 20-30 years..

im ready to pay now
3000$ to get read of my oil production and the damn sebum crap that clogged and got this cysts

[LabGirl81]

Have you talked to your derm about getting them extracted? Just tell him that you know they aren't pimples and that they've been there for years, and that they sometimes enlarge. Just by looking at them a derm might just think they are clogged pores.....a sebaceous cyst isn't a clogged pore, so they won't respond to acne treatment......

The only sure bet to decreace you sebum production is Accutane. But you do not have acne to warrant a course of Accutane, and no derm will give it to you just for oily skin......

I've heard some good things about laser treatment to reduce the size and activity of sebaceous glands.....if you have the money it might be worth it......and talk to a derm about getting them surgically extracted....it's a simple procedure that if done correctly won't leave any scarring.........I have milia near my eyes. They are so tiny and hardly visable, but they're there. I don't feel comfortable having them extracted because the skin there is so delicate........

Like I said....you skin actually looks really good. I can't imaginge what you'd do if your skin looked like mine.....

[retaly]

Have you talked to your derm about getting them extracted? Just tell him that you know they aren't pimples and that they've been there for years, and that they sometimes enlarge. Just by looking at them a derm might just think they are clogged pores.....a sebaceous cyst isn't a clogged pore, so they won't respond to acne treatment......

The only sure bet to decreace you sebum production is Accutane. But you do not have acne to warrant a course of Accutane, and no derm will give it to you just for oily skin......

I've heard some good things about laser treatment to reduce the size and activity of sebaceous glands.....if you have the money it might be worth it......and talk to a derm about getting them surgically extracted....it's a simple procedure that if done correctly won't leave any scarring.........I have milia near my eyes. They are so tiny and hardly visable, but they're there. I don't feel comfortable having them extracted because the skin there is so delicate........

Like I said....you skin actually looks really good. I can't imaginge what you'd do if your skin looked like mine.....

talked... she gave me retin-a + vitamin a pills 50,000units each (i stopped with it), and then differin + vitamin a pills, didnt help. she tried liquid nitrogen on it... nothing.. got peeled the upper layer and nothing happened. actually it is kind of a clogged pores... a clogged pores caused the sebum to stay there and make this sebaceous/epidermis cyst. im going to try GC for period of time year+ and see how it effects the oilyness/smoothness/sebum cyst on my skin.. i never used retin/differin periodically, i used it few days stoppe.d. few days stopped... accutane? nah, accutane will fuckup my skin, its deadly pill, ill suffer and it'll dehydrate me skin, surely will make it smother, but wheni stop, kab00m.. oil back, and crap, this kind of pill also makes epidermis very thin and sensitive in the future thats what i've been told anyway its nuts to use it for me. laser treatment? i heard people remove this with soft laser but only spotly not on all the face, cant take the risk to be a experiment guy... i try this GC.. for period of time... maybe ill try spotly this glycolic acid with Copper Peptides or whatever this thing does but im afarid touching this chemicals i have no idea what is it can do to my skin, if i wrongly put it on another place that is ok it might make me a hole i cannot trust this deadly acids. as my mom always say the more u put stuff on ur face the more u fuck them up..

Yea but u had acne, u lived with it for long time, i each day started to have something.. sometimes its a surface hole... sometimes blackheads, excessive oil, something i wake upa nd see damn sebum cyst, i dont even sleep on a pillow anymore jesus, im acting like a damn idiot because of this oil production and sebum cysts.. i dont care about oil production i can use GC and i wont have blackheads and unclogged pores, i only hate oil production because of this sebum cysts

btw LabGirl81, thank you for replying me... you'r so kind

[beentheredonethat]

Retin-a can thin the epidermis enough for the contents of the cyst to be squeezed out or extracted through the opening of the sebaceous follicle, but unelss all of it's contents are removed, they easilycan return.....but aren't they usually much larger.....

It's not just the contents that must be expelled - it's the entire sac. If any of it remains behind, the cyst will return. Only surgical removal is reliable.

Oh, and sebaceous cysts don't actually occur in a sebaceous gland. Hence, the medical folk now call them epidermal or epidermoid cysts since the previous name was a misnomer. Milia are minature epidermoid cysts and treatment is the same - surgical removal of the entire sac intact. If you use a skin thinning agent, you can remove enough top layers of skin to express the contents of the cyst, and maintain it with the same agent, but the moment you stop, it will return, since you can't get the actual sac that's causing the problem removed with this method..

[retaly]

Retin-a can thin the epidermis enough for the contents of the cyst to be squeezed out or extracted through the opening of the sebaceous follicle, but unelss all of it's contents are removed, they easilycan return.....but aren't they usually much larger.....

It's not just the contents that must be expelled - it's the entire sac. If any of it remains behind, the cyst will return. Only surgical removal is reliable.

k so i rather put a retniol like green cream for year, 2, 3, 4 ... and keep it really small... instead of do surgical remove and take the risk of scaring....

ill try get updated pics so u guys see them... and also see my skin, gimmie 2 days

[beentheredonethat]

With cysts as small as yours, scarring from surgical removal is unlikely. If the cyst is small, they just need to prick the top layer and work the sac of goop out. But if you wait and let them grow, they will need a larger incision to extract, and with larger incisions comes more scarring. Also, if you leave them and do not have them removed, you run the risk of abssess. And nothing leaves a scar as bad as an abssess. I have a terrible scar on my shoulder from a "sebaceous" cyst that just sat there for years, not hurting me at all, until one day it inexplicably became the size of a baseball, very painful and inflamed. No fun.

[retaly]

With cysts as small as yours, scarring from surgical removal is unlikely. If the cyst is small, they just need to prick the top layer and work the sac of goop out. But if you wait and let them grow, they will need a larger incision to extract, and with larger incisions comes more scarring. Also, if you leave them and do not have them removed, you run the risk of abssess. And nothing leaves a scar as bad as an abssess. I have a terrible scar on my shoulder from a "sebaceous" cyst that just sat there for years, not hurting me at all, until one day it inexplicably became the size of a baseball, very painful and inflamed. No fun.

jesus.. you scare the hell out of me i was told that this fat cysts i got are harmless... and i got them for about 7 years.. yes i was hearing a stab at the top to make a open to the pore can get this crap out...
i hope so this abcess or whatever its name wont happen to me cause then ill die hehe...

btw when i took vitamin a 50,000 units pills daily and used differin even that i used it 2-3 times a week i still got 1-2 of the sebum cyst to reduce itself but its re-back to itself...

douno man... maybe i should start with this GC for period of time and with it try spotly this gycolic acid on them... also to find a good cosmetician to make that... its risk, you needa find a good one, anyway ill up soon pics and tell me if we talk about the same thing, although alots of people told me its fat clogged into the pore, btw, thanks for helping me out ..


P.S: btw.. they'r mostly the same size for the last 7 years.. not something that u can notice

[LabGirl81]

Oh my God....I just got it....wow I'm like a totaly ditz (can you say dumb blonde??)...

When you were saying "fat cysts" I though you meant that they were big and fat (as opposed to being small and composed of "fat")......That would be "Special Sarah" for ya.....I though you had some kind of acne dysmorphic disorder.....

I think proper surgical extraction would help you...just a prick at the surface and a good gentle squeeze should get rif of 'em with only a very tiny risk of scarring (almost no risk at all).....

50,000IU of vitimin A a day is pretty much a kin to a toxic dose of vitamin A. You liver converts the vitamin A esters (usually retinyl palimtate or retinyl acetate) into trans- retinoic acid and cis-9-retinoic acid and cis-13 retinoic acid (isotretonin). OD'ing on a vitamin A supplement could be comparable to a micrdosing on Acctuane.......it may shrink upo you sebaceous glands slightly, but can have some dangerous side effects.....

OD'ing on Vitamin A should require the same liver monitering that Accutane users require......

[beentheredonethat]

jesus.. you scare the hell out of me i was told that this fat cysts i got are harmless... and i got them for about 7 years.. yes i was hearing a stab at the top to make a open to the pore can get this crap out...
i hope so this abcess or whatever its name wont happen to me cause then ill die hehe...

Generally speaking, they are harmless, unless they abscess, which is certainly not a sure thing so don't worry too much. I have had three more since the one that abcessed, one was removed and the others are still with me with no apparent issues, but after that first one i want them all out, out, out!

[LabGirl81]

jesus.. you scare the hell out of me i was told that this fat cysts i got are harmless... and i got them for about 7 years.. yes i was hearing a stab at the top to make a open to the pore can get this crap out...
i hope so this abcess or whatever its name wont happen to me cause then ill die hehe...

Generally speaking, they are harmless, unless they abscess, which is certainly not a sure thing so don't worry too much. I have had three more since the one that abcessed, one was removed and the others are still with me with no apparent issues, but after that first one i want them all out, out, out!

My mom had one absess on her face. She had it drained and it left a scar. A tiny little hole in the side of her cheek. The only blemish or scar on her face.....