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#61 dilemma

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Posted 20 August 2003 - 12:17 PM

Hey, this is more of an emu oil question rather than copper peptide one but I hope someone can help me. I just received my first bottle of emu oil from Skin Biology and I tried it on my face. The thing is... it has a very peculiar smell. The best way to describe it is that it has rather a "funky" smell. Is it supposed to smell this way or did I just get a bad bottle? Maybe I am a bit sensitive but it really does bother me and I am thinking of wearing perfume to bed :D/ if this really is the genuine emu oil smell.

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Posted 20 August 2003 - 12:45 PM

Hey Denise, Maya and everyone...
Okay, I just ordered some of that manuka honey gel, as well as a couple perfume samples and things. I like all the products that you have recommended that I use (jojoba oil, emu oil, CP serum, Super CP serum)... However, I did a 'patch test' of that salicylic acid peel and holy guacamole... thank god it was just a patch test... I don't know how many people's skins will be able to tolerate that peel... I did it under my lip on my chin and its pretty much bordering on scabby right now... lol.... Anyway... I am going to dillute the peel next time as Denise suggested and do a patch test with that.
Denise... how are you doing on the 'sebacious hyperplasma?' (Impacted whiteheads)... Does the salicylic peel help with those? What do you think works best? I have that stuff on my chin and by my nose....
Also... the emu oil I use, I bought really inexpensively from a company that operates through e-bay. It is just pure emu oil. Do you think one emu oil is superior to another (I was thinking of getting the Skin Biology brand next time).... ?
Thanks!

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Posted 20 August 2003 - 01:31 PM

Dilemma... Yes the EMU oil has unique scent to it... If im correct The Skin Bio EMU oil is pure.. and remember EMU is a type of bird, an Ostrich if im correct.. So naturally its not going to have the most pleasat smell.. Hehe ":)

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Posted 20 August 2003 - 03:05 PM

Scorpion: the hyperplasia lesions are slowly going away through aggressive exfoliation, but check this out. When I got my first round of needling done, I wanted to see if Lilian could "needle" them away. Well, I'll tell you what happened. I got her to needle some of the most stubborn ones and when they scabbed over and the scabs fell off, they were still there. BUT CHECK THIS OUT!. In three months, they have totally gone away! :D/ :D/ :D/

I think that there were some that have slowly gone away over the past year or 18 months that went away due to all the peels I was doing. My derm basically said that Retin A, peels, exfoliation, etc...was the only thing that would get rid of them, but that it would be over time. I found that to be true for many or some of them, but certainly not all of them. Like I said, the stubborn ones that I got needled are pretty much gone now, 4 months after they were needled. As you know, they are in clusters, and I had some clustered on my forehead that were STUBBORN! Those are the ones that are gone now. I might get some more needled and then continue with the Retin A and peels, which pretty much continues the disappearing act.

I hope that helps!!

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 01:26 AM

Dilema - I've got used to the smell - it doesn't bother me at all. I think the skinbio emu oil is superior, it has added good ingredients and it is very pure and peroxide free (so it states).

I am having some success with the supper copper peptides and retin-a mix - doing the combination once a day and somtimes twice. Also, doing lactic peels regularly. I also tried some high % glycolic straight into the pits (as in the TCA cross method) and left them longer than suggested - some slight scabbing appeared (which I wanted) - and that does seem to have caused enough of a minor injury to raise the pitted areas. Will continue to do this. I feel pretty confident that this combination should help a lot, even without needling or subcision - although the use of many methods seems to produce the best results.

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 06:49 AM

Does Emu oil cause breakouts????... I would love to try it but I feel like EVERYTHING breaks me out...

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 07:14 AM

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Does Emu oil cause breakouts????... I would love to try it but I feel like EVERYTHING breaks me out...

In my opinion - NO!!! It's fantastic for acne prone skin.

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Posted 21 August 2003 - 12:49 PM

Maya...
Funny you said that about applying the glycolic into the pits for a 'CROSS' effect.... when I did the patch test from the salicylic acid peel on my chin (too BIG of a patch test) it burned the hell out of my chin which still has a thin scab or a thick layer of skin bunching up... not yet ready to peel off and it's crimson red and itches like hell..... [-( Lol...
Anyway, I had the same idea myself... that I was gonna apply the salicylic acid into a few of my icepicks, pits or scarred pores (yes I have it ALL and its atrocious) instead of the TCA as an 'experiment.' I don't want to walk around with too many scabs though, so I am gonna go easy on this one! Because...I'm finally enjoying being almost free of acne....
Let us know how the glycolic 'CROSS' procedure works for you and I'll let you know how the salicylic works for me.....
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Posted 21 August 2003 - 02:11 PM

Scorpion and Maya: Excellent thinking, chickies!!!! :D

Maya, I truly believe that the SUPER serum is truly a miracle. I'm glad you are seeing results.

I'm about to do another salicylic peel this weekend, as it's been 5 weeks since I've done one. I always see such great results after one of those combined with the Super serum, and I never ever thought I'd see those scarred pores improve!! I just thought I'd have them forever, to be honest. I cannot believe the improvement I have with the peels and Super serum!

You guys be sure to let the board know if that really works.

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Posted 22 August 2003 - 09:56 AM

Hi Maya--that's an EXCELLENT idea to simulate the cross method with the glycolic peel! Do you apply it with a Q-tip and rub it in, or just dab it on?

Hi Denise--I'm glad that you are continuing to see such great results; VERY encouraging to everyone! Do you apply the Super CP directly after you rinse and dry from the peel?

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Posted 22 August 2003 - 10:12 AM

Ebby, I apply the Serum everyday ofcourse, and I do apply it right after a peel as well.

If you read the information about the copper peptides on the SB site, they are very explicit that you SHOULD apply copper peptides after invasive procedures because they literally help the skin regenerate and heal. Also, if you read testimonies from people who have had bad experiences with peels and laser surgery, the copper peptides help tremendously. Kit from Asia at Voy had a problem with redness from his Exoderm and the copper peptides cleared it right on up after a few weeks, I think.

When I had the TCA, I noticed that after I had peeled, that I was still red as the dickens. I then thought about applying the copper peptides and the redness immediately decreased dramatically over the next 4-5 days. It's a *HEALING* solution, so it's smart to apply it right after a peel to facilitate healing. With scars, it seems to generate collagen production after a peel.

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Posted 22 August 2003 - 10:19 AM

Denise...Thanks so much for the info. I will definitely do that the next time I do a peel!

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Posted 22 August 2003 - 11:24 AM

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Hi Maya--that's an EXCELLENT idea to simulate the cross method with the glycolic peel!  Do you apply it with a Q-tip and rub it in, or just dab it on?

I applied it with a Q-tip straight into the pits.

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Posted 22 August 2003 - 12:53 PM

Thanks Maya....I think I'll give that a try!

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Posted 22 August 2003 - 05:10 PM

Thanks everyone for helping me with the emu oil "smell" question. Guess I'll just have to get used to it because I like the oil a lot. I had no idea it actually came from the bird. I wonder what part of the bird the oil comes from... :-k

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Posted 22 August 2003 - 09:33 PM

The Emu bird has a hump on its back filled with fat... they melt that fat down and that's how they get the oil.
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Posted 22 August 2003 - 10:04 PM

i heard the Oil Came out of the Buttocks? Like as a dispeners for oil..















































































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J/k :D

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 01:43 AM

I thought the oil came from the big emu eggs which can get to be quite large. I noticed my emu oil is grainy and when i rub it over my scabs, it isn't a good feeling.

I just hope they don't kill any of these birds prematurely to get the oil.

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 02:39 AM

Could anyone tell me which of peels is suitable for 1st time user with asian skin?? Glycolic, lactic or ??

Appreciate yur advice

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Posted 23 August 2003 - 09:04 AM

Just an observation. I thought my skin could take super cp serum early after the needling but obviously it can't. I forgot that the super cp contains salycalic acid in it and it obviously was too harsh for the area creating more scabs. I will go back to the reg cp and after 2 weeks or so start using super cp once a day then move up to 3 a day as my skin becomes used to it.





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