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Posted 18 April 2004 - 03:07 PM

I am still using the Super Cp Serum daily, going on 9 months.

I have had at least a 40% improvement in this time. I think i will continue getting improvement but I need to bring my exfoliation up a notch.

I will continue using this product and i recommend it.

VERY SLOW process, but i feel my results are very permanent and it saves me the embarrassment of going from doctor to doctor for treatment.

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Posted 18 April 2004 - 03:27 PM

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I am still using the Super Cp Serum daily, going on 9 months.

I have had at least a 40% improvement in this time. I think i will continue getting improvement but I need to bring my exfoliation up a notch.  

I will continue using this product and i recommend it.

VERY SLOW process, but i feel my results are very permanent and it saves me the embarrassment of going from doctor to doctor for treatment.


I used the Super CP Serum a few times this week and left it on for a couple of hours before washing it off. It still made me break out but just a little. I am thinking of just using this a couple times a week and washing it off like I do with the Pure Deming gel. If I leave this on overnight my skin just cannot handle it.

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Posted 18 April 2004 - 05:44 PM

Does anyone know why CPs can break some people out? — and especially the super CPs?

What is the ingredient that causes the eruptions — the copper itself?

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Posted 18 April 2004 - 07:10 PM

The regular CP Serum doesn't break ME out, but the SUPER CP Serum does. I guess it must be the Salicylic Acid in it (and yet, when I have used other SA products in the past, I never broke out. I just don't get it...)

I thought I was upgrading when I moved to Super CP after using the regular CP for several months, but I don't call getting my first new pimples in 3 or 4 years, "upgrading". sad.gif I guess I'll have to go back to the Regular CP serum. I wanted to hasten my results and I thought the latter product was improving things too slowly but now I see that's a lot better than what's been happening to my skin lately with the Super CP.

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Posted 18 April 2004 - 08:17 PM

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The regular CP Serum doesn't break ME out, but the SUPER CP Serum does. I guess it must be the Salicylic Acid in it (and yet, when I have used other SA products in the past, I never broke out. I just don't get it...)

I thought I was upgrading when I moved to Super CP after using the regular CP for several months, but I don't call getting my first new pimples in 3 or 4 years, \"upgrading\".  :(  I guess I'll have to go back to the Regular CP serum. I wanted to hasten my results and I thought the latter product was improving things too slowly but now I see that's a lot better than what's been happening to my skin lately with the Super CP.


Yes, same here. I used the regular CP for over a year and a half, religeously. The regular CP didn't break me out and when I 'upgraded' to the Super CP, by skin would get something almost like a rash (red and irritated with clogged pores) and I would break out. At this point, back in August, I discontinued the CPs and started using Kinerase and noticed my skin jump started a healing process. So my skin looked better when I stopped the CPs completely.
I don't know why the Super Serum breaks everyone out... maybe it's the reaction between the salicylic acid and copper in the way they are combined in the serum... it's hard to say (salicylic acid on it's own never broke me out).
I guess I don't want to give up hope in the copper peptides. I truly cannot say whether or not they work.
I hope more people will post their updates.

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 01:57 AM

I use it all over my face and it doesnt irritate my face. I also use Retin-A 1% cream and my face does get irritated when I use the retin a too much. I was wondering if it is too strong to use all over the face over the long term.

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 04:22 AM

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The regular CP Serum doesn't break ME out, but the SUPER CP Serum does. I guess it must be the Salicylic Acid in it (and yet, when I have used other SA products in the past, I never broke out. I just don't get it...)

I thought I was upgrading when I moved to Super CP after using the regular CP for several months, but I don't call getting my first new pimples in 3 or 4 years, \"upgrading\".  sad.gif  I guess I'll have to go back to the Regular CP serum. I wanted to hasten my results and I thought the latter product was improving things too slowly but now I see that's a lot better than what's been happening to my skin lately with the Super CP.


Yes, same here. I used the regular CP for over a year and a half, religeously. The regular CP didn't break me out and when I 'upgraded' to the Super CP, by skin would get something almost like a rash (red and irritated with clogged pores) and I would break out. At this point, back in August, I discontinued the CPs and started using Kinerase and noticed my skin jump started a healing process. So my skin looked better when I stopped the CPs completely.
I don't know why the Super Serum breaks everyone out... maybe it's the reaction between the salicylic acid and copper in the way they are combined in the serum... it's hard to say (salicylic acid on it's own never broke me out).
I guess I don't want to give up hope in the copper peptides. I truly cannot say whether or not they work.
I hope more people will post their updates.



Scorpion_Vixen, I guess you and I are in the same boat. I wrote to Dr. Pickart about it and he answered me in very vague terms (something like, "We're sorry to hear of your dissatisfaction, however, are there any other changes in your skin routine that might also be responsible for the breakouts...?")

I think I better just discontinue the use of my (nearly full) bottle of Super CP Serum.

Scorpion_Vixen, I'm glad that Kinerase is helping you. Can I ask: is it appropriate for use on super-oily skin? I would be willing to add it to my regimen and give it a go, but I hesitate trying new things with my post-Accutane oily skin. If you think it would be okay, can you please tell me what brand you use and where I can purchase it? Thanks, and I hope you keep getting good results with it.

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 04:29 AM

Hey John biggrin.gif

I too broke out from the super CP. I was fine with the regular, and like you, thought I was updating to a superior version .. but I just had horrible pimples from it. Now I am very wary of SA in any product.

The kinerase is available from many places ... but it's very cheap from eaby. There's a cream and lotion version (the lotion is better for oily skins/warmer months and the cream is supposedly better for dryer, mature skins/cold climates). I've used the cream, found it OK, but am now waiting for my kinerase lotion from ebay to arrive.

Buy the sample/trail sizes first, they last quite a long while, that way, if you don't like it, not too much money down the drain! (Thank God for ebay!!)

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 05:55 AM

Well that sucks, I just ordered both the CP and the Super CP, and got the Super Cop (as a bonus free thing). I have been using a SA wash for a long time and I did break out at first with the SA (badly) but things are SO much better, maybe I wont have such a bad time with it. What about the exfol serum doesnt that have SA in it too? Has anyone broke out from that as well? Has anyone tired his protect and restore stuff?

Kinerease broke me out and I used the lotion. It wasnt a bad breakout just some clogged pores here and there, but I was also using it twice a day for like three weeks. Myabe I should have throwen it out. Win some lose some.

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 06:45 AM

Thanks, Maya, I'll check out the Kinerase lotion on eBay. In the meantime, maybe I'll also go back to the regular CP Serum. I think it made my skin look better (healthier color and texture). Hey, how were we to know that the Super CP would be problematic and such a bummer (for some of us)?

Did your final scab go away yet?? smile.gif Wow...20 + days...You deserve some kind of medal! =D>

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 06:45 AM

It's strange, because the regular routine of exfol serum (2% salicylic acid) followed by CP serum seems to be fine, yet when the products are mixed for the Super CP serum the problems start.

I think the Super CP serum has a stronger percentage of Copper which is possibly the main culprit.

Perhaps using the regular serum all over the face and the super CP as a spot treatment may be better?

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 07:00 AM

Everyone is different. If that's what works for you, go for it!

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 08:21 AM

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Did your final scab go away yet??  smile.gif  Wow...20 + days...You deserve some kind of medal!  =D>


Yes, a couple of days ago! looked pretty horrible when the scab came off - very deep and very large .. but all of a sudden (today being day 22) it's started to fill in. It does take time to see improvements though. I am making a photo journal of this 1 scar (what an interesting life that I have) - will give it a couple more weeks and hope for a gold medal!

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 09:29 AM

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Everyone is different.  If that's what works for you, go for it!




I was just wondering aloud. Never actually tried the Super CP, but am curious as to why it causes people to break out.

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 09:31 AM

Denise, you've had some good results with CPs, haven't you?

Do you still use them? And what's the most effective routine you've used with them?

Just that some say they have no effects even after a year, yet others say they've seen some pretty significant improvements.

I know everyone's different, but it always helps to hear a success story smile.gif

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 01:38 PM

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The regular CP Serum doesn't break ME out, but the SUPER CP Serum does. I guess it must be the Salicylic Acid in it (and yet, when I have used other SA products in the past, I never broke out. I just don't get it...)

I thought I was upgrading when I moved to Super CP after using the regular CP for several months, but I don't call getting my first new pimples in 3 or 4 years, \"upgrading\".  sad.gif  I guess I'll have to go back to the Regular CP serum. I wanted to hasten my results and I thought the latter product was improving things too slowly but now I see that's a lot better than what's been happening to my skin lately with the Super CP.


Yes, same here. I used the regular CP for over a year and a half, religeously. The regular CP didn't break me out and when I 'upgraded' to the Super CP, by skin would get something almost like a rash (red and irritated with clogged pores) and I would break out. At this point, back in August, I discontinued the CPs and started using Kinerase and noticed my skin jump started a healing process. So my skin looked better when I stopped the CPs completely.
I don't know why the Super Serum breaks everyone out... maybe it's the reaction between the salicylic acid and copper in the way they are combined in the serum... it's hard to say (salicylic acid on it's own never broke me out).
I guess I don't want to give up hope in the copper peptides. I truly cannot say whether or not they work.
I hope more people will post their updates.



Scorpion_Vixen, I guess you and I are in the same boat. I wrote to Dr. Pickart about it and he answered me in very vague terms (something like, "We're sorry to hear of your dissatisfaction, however, are there any other changes in your skin routine that might also be responsible for the breakouts...?")

I think I better just discontinue the use of my (nearly full) bottle of Super CP Serum.

Scorpion_Vixen, I'm glad that Kinerase is helping you. Can I ask: is it appropriate for use on super-oily skin? I would be willing to add it to my regimen and give it a go, but I hesitate trying new things with my post-Accutane oily skin. If you think it would be okay, can you please tell me what brand you use and where I can purchase it? Thanks, and I hope you keep getting good results with it.

John


Hey John...
I guess Maya answered your questions. :-)
I agree about getting samples of both and seeing what works for you. Kinerase is very matte, not greasy at all, so I would say the lotion or the cream would suit oily skin. I have used both, yet my skin is on the dryer side most of the time (Maya is right though the cream is formulated for dryer skins... and according to the reviews on makeupalley, more people prefer the lotion).
Kinerase will cause some clogged pores if I use it twice a day... I use it once a day and take a break one or two days a week from it. It's definately made a huge improvement in the texture and color in my skin. My scars are fading.... and I don't think I can attribute it to just the Kinerase since I've been doing so much else to my skin.
I do have a tiny bit of the regular copper peptides left... they are old and they smell. They are probably bad. I put it on last night under the Kinerase and so far so good. I am thinking of re ordering the regular CP to combine with Kinerase and EGF. I figure since I never used the CP after a treatment before, that maybe I missed out on the real effects of the serum? I need to build my skin up, and every little bit helps.

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 01:42 PM

Laina: Supercop breaks people out because it has a lot of pore-clogging ingredients. Super serum didn't seem to break me out, but bothers people sensitive to salicylic acid.

I had fantastic results with the super cp serum, but don't use it right now for a very good reason. I'm using the PD R-ALA Gel and Deming didn't make any batches withOUT vitamin c. Since I'm using it twice a day, I cannot use the super cp serum right now, but plan on going back on it when I run out of the R-ALA gel. I love the effects on my enlarged/scarred pores so much that I just don't want to stop using it, and since it has vitamin c in it, I don't want to mix the vitamin c with the peptides. But I will resume using it again.

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 05:29 PM

You use the R-ALA twice a day? Wow! I used to use that stuff everyday, and even I thought that was difficult enough to work in my day...Now I use it 3-4 times a week.

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 06:10 PM

Denise do you know what percentage of salicylate is in supercop?

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 06:17 PM

I bought the super CP serum. I have been using this about 20 minutes :-k after I apply straight white vinegar. I have had no redness or peeling. I wonder if I should be using these together? Anybody doing both, or just applying retin A?
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