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Posted 27 March 2006 - 02:10 AM

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The only thing I know for sure at the moment is that biochembabe used it for 10 minutes everyday, and had very good results.

YUP! I no longer have any pimples at all. I went to Africa for a month and didn't take my lamp. It was 6 weeks until I used the lamp again and I began to break out like I had before. However, it only took 2 weeks for 10 minutes daily again to see the same results I saw last year when using the lamp for 3 months. Now I'm clear again and down to only 5 minutes of use.


Hey Boichem, did you ever try the suggested 15-20 mins every other day? eusa_think.gif

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 12:58 PM

Has anyone ever tried the acne mahine? It's a kind of light therapy, I'm not sure exactly what is does. www.acnemachine.com

The site looks a little suspicious, but their product is approved by the FDA, and it is pretty cheap, considering what is says it does.

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 01:48 PM

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Has anyone ever tried the acne mahine? It's a kind of light therapy, I'm not sure exactly what is does. www.acnemachine.com

The site looks a little suspicious, but their product is approved by the FDA, and it is pretty cheap, considering what is says it does.

Nothing on the site gives me personally any faith that it works.

What makes you say it's approved by the FDA, I didn't notice it saying that anywhere?



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Posted 27 March 2006 - 02:35 PM

Hi guys,

I got my lights from naturebright on Friday. I started to use them twice daily (15 mins in the morning and 15 mins at night). I haven't had new breakouts so far, and the redness of my face is fading (of course I just see a very small change).

I was on Benzaclin, Taz, and Bactrim, although I told my derm that proactive gave me acne! (before I just had a couple of very tiny pimples on my forehead that would come and go, and they were not even red; but after I used proactive for a couple of months I got acne all over my face). Nonetheless, I followed her treatment for about 4 months, but my skin was not getting better at all. In fact, the medicines were irritating my skin and causing redness all over. So I decided to stop her treatment on March, which was a great decision! Inmediately my face started to clear up by itself, and my marks started to heal much faster. Right now I just wash my face with a cleaner with SA (I use aveno's in the morning and clinique's at night), and I spot treat with the aveno spot treatment. I am so happy my face is not getting red anymore and that I'm not getting rashes because of the BP!!!

Anyways... I like using the lamps. I put them on my nightstand and I lay down on my bed for 15 mins facing the lamps (remember to wear your protective glasses and close your eyes). Hope to have a clear skin in couple of weeks smile.gif

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 03:57 PM

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Hi guys,
Hope to have a clear skin in couple of weeks smile.gif

That's really overoptimistic.

You should get slightly better skin almost right away (the red light helps with healing), but the majority of the visible improvement doesn't happen for 6 weeks; and then your skin should be noticeably improved and then will continue to improve till you're past the 3 month point. As a rough rule of thumb people get ecstatic at the 6 week mark onwards.

Atleast, that's what's going to happen if you're in the 80% that see decent improvements. And another 10% see some improvement.



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Posted 27 March 2006 - 04:01 PM

It should be time for me to be ecstatic any moment now. lol

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 01:02 AM

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Hey Boichem, did you ever try the suggested 15-20 mins every other day? eusa_think.gif


Nope. I was so bad about using it like it was recommended. I fell asleep at least twice while under the lamp last year and even though I used it everyday, I never used it for the same amount of time each day... and I didn't rotate my head the whole time; I just switched my positions 3 times to get the front and sides. I'm not good at following directions, but hey..it still worked.

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 01:34 AM

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Hey Boichem, did you ever try the suggested 15-20 mins every other day? eusa_think.gif


Nope. I was so bad about using it like it was recommended. I fell asleep at least twice while under the lamp last year and even though I used it everyday, I never used it for the same amount of time each day... and I didn't rotate my head the whole time; I just switched my positions 3 times to get the front and sides. I'm not good at following directions, but hey..it still worked.


I'm a bit the same to be honest, but i've tried to stick to some sort of regimen with them. I was using them every second day but i've switched back to every day because of some info Wolfy gave me. Also because i've been having a breakout the past few days. I'm under alot of stress and haven't been getting much sleep so i'm not surprised, but i just want to get 10 mins of them every day for now. It's not three months yet, and i'm bloody glad because i don't want to lose faith in this. neutral.gif

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 01:49 AM

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I'm a bit the same to be honest, but i've tried to stick to some sort of regimen with them. I was using them every second day but i've switched back to every day because of some info Wolfy gave me. Also because i've been having a breakout the past few days. I'm under alot of stress and haven't been getting much sleep so i'm not surprised, but i just want to get 10 mins of them every day for now. It's not three months yet, and i'm bloody glad because i don't want to lose faith in this. neutral.gif

If you're under a lot of stress, I reckon you can do up to 10 mins twice a day with your lamp.

But how long have you been on it so far GTO? Less than 8 weeks isn't it? Your skin should be better right now, but there's still a way to go.

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 01:54 AM

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I'm a bit the same to be honest, but i've tried to stick to some sort of regimen with them. I was using them every second day but i've switched back to every day because of some info Wolfy gave me. Also because i've been having a breakout the past few days. I'm under alot of stress and haven't been getting much sleep so i'm not surprised, but i just want to get 10 mins of them every day for now. It's not three months yet, and i'm bloody glad because i don't want to lose faith in this. neutral.gif

If you're under a lot of stress, I reckon you can do up to 10 mins twice a day with your lamp.

But how long have you been on it so far GTO? Less than 8 weeks isn't it? Your skin should be better right now, but there's still a way to go.


It's exactly 8 weeks today actually. It is definately better that when i started. I'm just unsure as to whether my skin will keep improving after 3 months usage, or if that will be its peak. eusa_think.gif

You don't think twice daily would be too much exposure?


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Posted 29 March 2006 - 02:17 AM

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If you're under a lot of stress, I reckon you can do up to 10 mins twice a day with your lamp.

But how long have you been on it so far GTO? Less than 8 weeks isn't it? Your skin should be better right now, but there's still a way to go.

It's exactly 8 weeks today actually. It is definately better that when i started. I'm just unsure as to whether my skin will keep improving after 3 months usage, or if that will be its peak. eusa_think.gif

Your skin will continue to improve after 3 months; and it should be about twice as good by then. At this point I would expect you to still breakout, but the breakouts should be fewer and clear up somewhat more quickly.
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You don't think twice daily would be too much exposure?

No, should be perfectly fine. I should leave a few hours between treatments though.

But you don't have to do twice a day, once a day for 10 works. But twice a day is good if you're under extra stress.



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Posted 29 March 2006 - 12:32 PM

I do 15 mins twice a day (one in the morning and one at night). But you have to check the instructions of your lamps.

I have less than a week and I see an amazing improving on my red marks (but seriously an amazing difference; I wished I had pictures). I also use twice a day the Aveno treatment for red marks, so I guess is a combination of the red lights and the Aveno cream. The lamp I use (naturebright) is great because you set the time and it turns off by itself, so it doesn't matter if you fall asleep.

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 03:55 PM

[quote name='Wolfy' date='Mar 29 2006, 06:17 PM' post='1053087']
Your skin will continue to improve after 3 months; and it should be about twice as good by then. At this point I would expect you to still breakout, but the breakouts should be fewer and clear up somewhat more quickly.
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Okay, that makes me far more optimistic. The breakout have been somewhat smaller, but more noticable is the faster healing. I had quite a large pimple that would generally stay inflamed for around 1-1.5 weeks. It's flattened out in 2-3 days. eusa_dance.gif

I think i'll try twice daily next time i get quite stressed.

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 04:13 PM

does it matter washing your face before or after? and will other lights diminish the effectiveness? sun or tv or lamp being in the room?

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 05:32 PM

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does it matter washing your face before or after?

If you're wearing any coverup makeup, you should wash before; otherwise, I don't think it makes much difference.
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and will other lights diminish the effectiveness? sun or tv or lamp being in the room?

No, no effect at all.



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Posted 03 April 2006 - 11:26 AM

hi there, great info on the blue/red light theropy system wolf, iv purchased a home use light system to try out myself. Was just wondering how well this would work for me because i usually stay clear on the current regimen and BP gel has been a great help for me, however i suffer a lot from bleached fabric/hair. If someone can stay clear on BP regimen do they stand a good chance of staying clear using these lights daily, because as the research states the lights work just as well as BP if not better? Or is it a completely different form of treatment. I understand blue light and BP are both antibacterial treatments, but do they fight the bacteria the same way or differently? I know every person is different, but any info or personal opinions on how the lights would work for me would be great smile.gif

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 12:34 PM

I'm looking at getting either the Verilux HappySkin for $189 or the Sci/Art Dichro-Acne-Blue + Dichro-Healing-Red. Which is better>

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 05:13 PM

Assuming that both products use the same light frequency, its just a case of which has the most bulbs attached to it and which has a longer life. Also look for one with reflective mirrors behind the lights, i assume they both do. If they both look roughly the same, go with the one you can trust more, i.e u know others use. I myself am using Beauty Skin Acne Light, been using the lamp for 5 days so far and its looking promising. I used to use BP with great success and this lamp is doing the job just as good so far, and is also giving my face a more natural look. I no longer have to worry about bleached clothing/towels hair biggrin.gif . However its still early days so ill keep you all updated in the coming weeks lol.gif I got my lamp from Androv Gbr
£199 with free delivery. It was dispatched immediately and i recieved it after 3 days. So i can recommend this one. The dermalux lamp is also an option, i know people on here have had great results with it. However i found their customer service to be very poor, after ordering 3 weeks ago. I received no invoice or confirmation and phoned up about 10 times to find out what was going on, and got no where each time, they kept saying they would phone back but never did. When they finnally did ring back i canceled because i had just ordered the beauty skin lamp. Anyways this isn't like a topical cream which has different ingredients, the lamps all work the same, just go with one you can trust.

Grow_To_Overthrow it must be 9 weeks now, hows it looking?

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 05:23 PM

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Assuming that both products use the same light frequency, its just a case of which has the most bulbs attached to it and which has a longer life.

Twice the number of bulbs aren't going to make your acne twice as good though; it just means you only have to sit infront of it for half the time.



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Posted 08 April 2006 - 04:54 PM

i've been using the sci/art system for a few weeks and it has worked great so far. Breakouts have reduced a lot.

Plus, i think i found out where you can get the sci art bulbs for cheap...
blue
http://www.bulbman.com/index.php?main_page...roducts_id=7380
red
http://www.bulbman.com/index.php?main_page...roducts_id=7383

gaffer grip
http://www.smithvictor.com/products/detail...nm=GAFFER+GRIP+

i'm still a little iffy about the safety of using these flood lights on your skin.........but those are the exact same ones sci/art uses.





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