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[carpenter newton]

when you say that some people have had the scars get worse, exactly what do you mean by worse? I'm having the procedure performed next month and if there is a chance of it getting worse, I'd rather live with the scars I have.

Thanks

[Dazarooni]

Carpenter, don't let that put you off. Ask the derm/doc for some before and after pics and ask them what type of improvement you can expect. You'll be fine, and after repeated treatments you will notice definite improvement as this procedure is excellent for ice-pick scarring and boxcars.

[Gurra]

Day 10 update - I am trying not to jump up and down and shout yipee....

But OMG - some of the pits look really so much smaller - I mean, the larger ones actually look 20-30% less deep/less wide. I am not seeing things.. and surely it's not swelling?? I'm wearing some mineral makeup - and where some of the small pits would still be apparent, now, under the makeup, they are flat and invisible.

There are/were around 6 more pits that I was going to ask Dr Chu to excise in January ... now I'm looking at them.. and I think they are too small to excise. Can you believe that?

OK, just rationalised - it is NOT swelling - even 10 days after procedures like needling or subcision.. I did not get this type of improvement.

I will say that using the puredeming intense gel and mandelic serum from day 7 has been fantastic - the pits don't even look too red. I have actually pushed the puredeing stuff into each pit and made sure it was soaked in it.. and left it for 1-2 hours - I really think it is helping seal the wounds and pumping things up.

I really think this is the solution for me. I can't wait to do this again now.

Well, I don't quite understand how you can see improvement so fast. Correct me if I am wrong but should not the scar be bigger in the beginning when you have put acid in it. The acid "burns down the walls and floor" of the scar. What am I missing?

[Gurra]

Have anyone experience from buying from http://www.mytcapeel.com/page/page/1612489.htm ??

It seems like a serious page, but you never know.

[bsarora]

Hi there...
I am considering going to Dr. Rappaport for the treatment of rolling scars. wanted to know how did it go with you. Are you satisfied with your results? Please reply back here or to barora@gmail.com.
Thanks

I just read this entire thread *whew*

I want to have this done. I would love to do it myself, but I would never forgive myself if something negative happened. Therefore, I am going to see Dr. Rappaport for a consultation as he is the only M.D. in the PA-NJ area that does this, at least he is the only one I've heard of...

I may have subcision as well. I have to see what he says. I wish he wasn't so damn expensive

I've decided to forgo the dermabrasion unless I find out I am not a candidate for other procedures. I just couldn't live with myself if I got dermabrasion as my first scar revision procedure-I can always get it later if I need it as a last resort, or if Dr. R says my scars are more amenable to it.

[Dazarooni]

Hi there...
I am considering going to Dr. Rappaport for the treatment of rolling scars. wanted to know how did it go with you. Are you satisfied with your results? Please reply back here or to barora@gmail.com.
Thanks

I just read this entire thread *whew*

I want to have this done. I would love to do it myself, but I would never forgive myself if something negative happened. Therefore, I am going to see Dr. Rappaport for a consultation as he is the only M.D. in the PA-NJ area that does this, at least he is the only one I've heard of...

I may have subcision as well. I have to see what he says. I wish he wasn't so damn expensive

I've decided to forgo the dermabrasion unless I find out I am not a candidate for other procedures. I just couldn't live with myself if I got dermabrasion as my first scar revision procedure-I can always get it later if I need it as a last resort, or if Dr. R says my scars are more amenable to it.

I haven't had treatment with Dr Rapaport but i have read on more than a few occasions on this board that he is very good at subcision and i think you'll be in good hands.

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Have anyone experience from buying from http://www.mytcapeel.com/page/page/1612489.htm ??

It seems like a serious page, but you never know.

finally finished reading all the posts on this thread... phew!!!

anyway, ya, has anyone bought tca from mytcapeel? seems that many have bought from bettercomplexions but y is the acid so cheap? can't help feeling suspicious about the products...

thanks for reply!

[Dazarooni]

Have anyone experience from buying from http://www.mytcapeel.com/page/page/1612489.htm ??

It seems like a serious page, but you never know.

finally finished reading all the posts on this thread... phew!!!

anyway, ya, has anyone bought tca from mytcapeel? seems that many have bought from bettercomplexions but y is the acid so cheap? can't help feeling suspicious about the products...

thanks for reply!

I replied to the same question you asked on a different thread.

Yes, i have tried 100% TCA from mytcapeel.com and it is strong stuff. Be careful with it.

[hehe_haha_hoho]

Have anyone experience from buying from http://www.mytcapeel.com/page/page/1612489.htm ??

It seems like a serious page, but you never know.

finally finished reading all the posts on this thread... phew!!!

anyway, ya, has anyone bought tca from mytcapeel? seems that many have bought from bettercomplexions but y is the acid so cheap? can't help feeling suspicious about the products...

thanks for reply!

I replied to the same question you asked on a different thread.

Yes, i have tried 100% TCA from mytcapeel.com and it is strong stuff. Be careful with it.

dazarooni : thanks so much for your reply! gonna place my order now... but i'm ordering from a seller on ebay, who's from the company.. pray it's the same kind of tca.

[Monn79]

Hi, I've read this thread but I am still unsure. When you apply TCA into your scar - you do it once or more ? Some of you do it only once and say that the second time may be dangerous. Some of you do it twice or more. And how many seconds toothpick with TCA should be into the scar? 2,3 more?
I know that I don't have to neutralize, that the scabs are formed 2-5 days later, that the redness can vary depending on person, that the scars very often look worse before they look better. Am I correct?

And if TCA touches healthy skin there is always a damage? Or next scar?

[Dazarooni]

Hi, I've read this thread but I am still unsure. When you apply TCA into your scar - you do it once or more ? Some of you do it only once and say that the second time may be dangerous. Some of you do it twice or more. And how many seconds toothpick with TCA should be into the scar? 2,3 more?
I know that I don't have to neutralize, that the scabs are formed 2-5 days later, that the redness can vary depending on person, that the scars very often look worse before they look better. Am I correct?

And if TCA touches healthy skin there is always a damage? Or next scar?

If you're using 100% TCA then it's best to go into each scar once.

When i do my TCA CROSSES i barely touch the scarred area with the sharpened applicator and then i pull the applicator out straight away.

Yes you'll find that when the scabs come off between 6-14 days, they will look very red and raw. However after a few weeks they will have settled down.

If you're using 100% TCA and it touches normal skin then it doesn't necessarily mean that it will result in a scar, however, the risk is high, so it's best to avoid normal skin at all costs.

Don't expect to see dramatic improvements overnight as it won't happen.

Repeated treatments, spaced at least a month apart should give noticeable improvement in ice-pick and boxcar type scars after at least 3 treatments.

Patience is the key here, the whole idea is to gradually improve each scar with each treatment.

[hehe_haha_hoho]

i'm still pretty confused with the post cross care.

before scabbing: moisturise with either neosporin/vaseline jelly/emu oil ===> which is most effective n where can i get it?

during scabbing: do nothing except to be gentle with the scabs.

after scabbing: (here i'm confused..) promote collagen growth with Super CP Serum/puredeming gel/Paula's Choice Superantioxidant/Amino-plex/SupercopX2 (something which i believe lexy is using to great effects, correct me if i'm wrong! ) ===> which is most effective? and again where can i get them?

i'm from Singapore so i'm afraid it may be difficult for me to get some of the products. Or does anyone has any other products to recommend that is not mentioned here...

THANKS A LOT FOR ALL THE HELP!

[Dazarooni]

I have never come across Retacnyl before so i don't want to try and advise you on when you should stop and start using it.

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ok! thanks again and again and again... =) hope i'll receive everything soon~

[link626]

Are fresh RED ice pick scars suitable for TCA Cross? or do you have to wait for them to fade? Cuz my icepicks are forever red...... like the pictures below.

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[Femina Mala Est]

Are fresh RED ice pick scars suitable for TCA Cross? or do you have to wait for them to fade? Cuz my icepicks are forever red...... like the pictures below.

Those don't look much different from one of the before photos of one of the Korean guys from the original CROSS trials, except his were much deeper. How long have you had the scars? Usually redness like that will eventually go away. None of those look very deep or large; you'd probably look damn near perfectly normal if not for the redness.

[link626]

I've had these scars since January 1999. So it's been red for 7 years. They're cystic acne scars. They've faded 50% I guess.

I'd say my red scars are halfway between rolling and icepick.

but still, i'd like them to quickly contract, roll up, and disappear.

[Femina Mala Est]

I've had these scars since January 1999. So it's been red for 7 years. They're cystic acne scars. They've faded 50% I guess.

I'd say my red scars are halfway between rolling and icepick.

but still, i'd like them to quickly contract, roll up, and disappear.

Well, if they've been around that long, you can definitely perform CROSS on them. I have no idea to what extent that will help with redness, but it should help fill them in somewhat. Has your dermatologist ever mentioned why they might have stayed red so long? Are you in the sun a lot? I've had my scars since May '98, and they were red for about five months at most. You can see one on my forehead that is darkened and looks like a mole, and that's the only one that hasn't returned to normal skin color.

What have you tried thus far to fade them? Anything? They might have some advice for you in the red marks forum.

[loki]

Hi, has anyone combined needling with TCA? I think I read that Denise2 has, but with all the pages I have just read it's a blur. If so, how long should you wait between the two? I'm going for my first needling next Thursday. I'm very scared. The only thing I have tried for my scars has been Smoothbeam which was a complete waste of money and the technician didn't hold the wand correctly which led to blisters on the entire left side of my face. After reading more about scars it makes sense to me to have needling done and to perform TCA cross on myself. I am happy that it is also a lot more cost effective than the money the doctors want to ring out of you for unimpressive results. So please, if anyone knows if needling and Cross can be combined how long is recommended to wait in between? Thanks!!

[kingziggy]

I've had these scars since January 1999. So it's been red for 7 years. They're cystic acne scars. They've faded 50% I guess.

I'd say my red scars are halfway between rolling and icepick.

but still, i'd like them to quickly contract, roll up, and disappear.

Well, if they've been around that long, you can definitely perform CROSS on them. I have no idea to what extent that will help with redness, but it should help fill them in somewhat. Has your dermatologist ever mentioned why they might have stayed red so long? Are you in the sun a lot? I've had my scars since May '98, and they were red for about five months at most. You can see one on my forehead that is darkened and looks like a mole, and that's the only one that hasn't returned to normal skin color.

What have you tried thus far to fade them? Anything? They might have some advice for you in the red marks forum.

hey fem,

do you feel that forehead scars are harder to improve on than anything else. i have forehead scars and i've done countless things with little to know improvement. they are the one that bother me most, probably cause they are deeper. combo of chicken pox scars and acne scars.

now on accutane and wanting to try portait or fraxel. have you done anything else on yours other than cross that you felt improved the appearance.

thanks