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[Jenya]

I had my 1st treatment with Dr. Sire in California. He mentioned he has been having great success with this treatment, and hopefully after 6-8 treatments we can get the scar elevated at skin level.
After the injection the skin raised creating a bump that lasted 30 min. After the swelling subsided I experienced complete scar revision for an entire week. When all the saline subsided the scar didn't go back as deep as it previously was.

I am sure many of you have read threads about saline injections, for those who are new here is a bit about the procedure:

The solution does not act as a filler but as a treatment. The initial response is similar to a filler, and the scar is elevated with the surrounding tissue, but it only lasts one week.
Saline is injected into the depressed acne scar, which causes stretching of the fibrous bands and mild collagen stimulation. Part of the saline solution remains in the scar and part of it gets absorbed by the body. Multiple treatments are necessary to accomplish optimum improvements. Injections are usually performed every 2-3 weeks - series of 6-8 treatments.
There is commonly a 50-80% improvement on the scarring. There is little "downtime" and the patient will not appear "treated." As the patient continues treatment, he or she will notice the tissue becoming softer and easier to inject and expand. The results are excellent after the initial treatments and the maintenance schedule has been established.

Dr. Sire did say you can do these once a week for maximum improvement. If one can get 10-15% with each injection, a series will produce great results. It is a gradual process but the results are permanent, since the effect of saline is to stimulate fiborblasts to remodel new collagen.

[nazzy19]

how much does this procedure cost???

[Jenya]

The injections were 50$.

When I asked Dr Sire if I needed a filler like collagen or fat he replied that we need to TREAT the scar and wake up our own collagen rather then to fill it with a filler and come back every so often to refill.

[trieditall]

I'm definitely interested! I've watched the saline injections threads and even tired it myself a few times. I can't say I have had much of a result but my technique may not be correct. Did you actually go to CA? It sounds as if maybe your nurse friend did the injections for you--? Can you tell me how many times you actually penetrated the skin? like for an indent the size of a dime? Also, on one thread I read that you should insert the needle on the outside of the scar at a slant in order to inject under the scar--on another, I read you should inject in the center of the scar.

I live in the midsouth and I don't think traveling to CA multiple times for several treatments is feasible. Also, there are always those people here that say saline injected could not possibly provide perament correction. I would be very interested in your response to my questions and your results.

Thanks for posting!

[Jenya]

Dont bite your tongue Jen. Wow you flew ran or hitchhiked from NY to Kalifornia, 10 out of 10 for dedication sometimes I cant even go from the loungeroom to the bedroom.

Haha Thanks Pete! But I was in LA for a wedding and decided to give saline a try. It worked out great because I had perfect flat skin for that entire week. I am in LA quite often, wish I knew about Dr. Sire sooner.

To be quite honest I was very skeptical of the procedure myself but after reading peoples success stories decided to go for it. What do I have to loose? So many people on this thread complain how nothing helps, some spend $700 per Subcision, but something as cheap and easy as this they wouldn't try.

[chrisy]

Are you experiencing any improvement so far? Have any scars disappeared? Or is it too soon? I've read for some it takes more than 3 treatments, but others see improvement with the first injections.

I just reread your first post. It sound like your only treating 1 scar. What type of scars are you treating?

Good luck.

[Jenya]

Are you experiencing any improvement so far?  Have any scars disappeared?  Or is it too soon?  I've read for some it takes more than 3 treatments, but others see improvement with the first injections. 

I just reread your first post.  It sound like your only treating 1 scar.  What type of scars are you treating?

Good luck.

Its really too soon to tell.....I have a pretty deep, dime size depression.
Results are different for everyone, but I feel the more treatments I have the better I will be able to tell the improvement.

It might take 6-8 treatments. 6 to 12 weeks, depending how far apart I want to space them.

[animegirle]

I will post technique that Dr. Sire dictated to the nurse soon to answer trieditall's question.

I am interested in this as well. Since I am a nurse I might have to pull out my needles and go to work.

I actually have a breast biopsy scar I would like to test this on. There are a couple of tiny pitted areas in it that might benefit. Maybe that would give me an idea on how it would work with facial scars. I will be happy to report my experimentation and progress.

[Jenya]

I am interested in this as well. Since I am a nurse I might have to pull out my needles and go to work.

Great....would be curious to hear your results

[Jenya]

Yes I was in Cali and Dr. Sire did the injections. His office performs this treatment on many people...However as you know everyone reacts differently.

Saline injections acts sort of as a chemical subcision by lifting the dermis to allow for new collagen production.


TECHNIQUE

•If any one is interested in the technique PM me

[Jenya]

Well, technique is definitely very important.

Had my 2nd set of injections, this time the swelling subsided almost immediately, there was no swelling or bruising....and didn't produce the same reaction/result as the time Dr. Sire did them. I don't think she was as aggressive. Maybe the tissue responded differently the 2nd time. Will try again in a few days, Im sure with time the technique will improve....

Can anyone share their post injection experience? For how long do you experience complete scar revision?
Maybe scorpioness can share her experience?

[trieditall]

Jenya, Thanks for the info! I may try again in the future.

Good Luck and please keep us posted.

[Jenya]

Yeh I will keep you guys posted if anyone is interested.

The 3rd set of injections went very well, the results were similar to Dr. Sire's. I do notice some improvement, but its still too soon to tell. It does seem that the topography of the scar has changed.

[eternallyhopeful]

Keep us posted. I am trying to get my derm in Australia to do this; am keen to hear about your results.

[OursFan]

Great information! Please keep us posted on your progress.

[trieditall]

Delta, He is with a group called Advanced Skincare MedCenter in Fullerton, CA. Please keep us posted if you find out any additional info.

[Jenya]

eternallyhopeful
I had a hard time persuading my derm to do these, and just ended up asking a friend. Dr. Sire is extremely nice, you can ask your derm to give him a call, Im sure he will have no problem in telling your derm his technique.

delta force operators
He is in Fullerton, CA.
http://www.advancedlaserdermatology.com/index.php

[Jenya]

Hi guys,
Some of you have been emailing me for my update, so I thought I would post it here.
I have to say that I was really skeptical of this procedure at first.

But as time went I really began to notice improvement. It has been 3 month and I had 7 treatment.
I would say the improvement is 30%-40% its really hard to put a percentage on these things.

And I must add that I had a very lage/deep depression, for shallow scars it should work really well.
Now the scar is not as deep and not as noticeable as before. I do hope to get more improvement as time goes by.