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[Supremeone]

Just had a few questions.

I have lemon juice in a bottle, is that the same as a freshly squeezed lemon? What is the conversion rates? 1 fresh lemon is like a few tblspoons?

3 minutes cleansing thing. Did you mean like over a kettle of boiling water?

i know you recommended the emu moisturizer thing, but is using something like aloe vera oil or jojoba oil good?

What is the significance of using baking soda and also the egg white/lemon mix?

Also why is it good to take saw palmetto, olive leaf extract, oregano oil, and garlic tablets?

Also you recommended taking Total EFA. I heard taking flax seed oil is very important, like you're supposed to take 8,000 iu's or something a day. Does this provide all of that?

Another question I have is you say to get one of these multivitamins (DermaMed or perfecil), but then you go on and say get like 1000mg vitamin C and 50mg zinc, 200ug selenium, and 200ug chromium. Wouldn't a multivitamin cover most of that? Or I would have to buy a separate supplement for all of those listed.

About the chicken portions. What kind did you have in mind? Like a chicken leg or breast? Or chicken nuggets/patties?

For the vitamin A and E amounts, how exactly do you take those. I don't really know much about taking liquid supplements except via tablespoons. But you just say like Vitamin A (15,000 IU's), how much does that entail?

Finally, you said like eat 4 raw egg yolks or something. Isn't it bad to eat raw things, couldn't you get salmonella poisoning? I've like never eatten anything raw before :o

I'm planning on trying this regimen just wanted to clear a few things up so its less overwhelming hehe. It would seem like I'll have to buy a load of stuff online. Hopefully not super expensive though.

[rowan]

Hey Anthony,

Just want to say you look great. Im so happy for you! Your regimine is extensive and I am glad that it has worked for you and hopefully others.

I appreciate all your work. I can tell that you are passionate about keeping the skin healthy and that you do alot of research.

Have you ever thought of becoming a Derm? You seem perfect for the job!

Good luck

[m1n1]

Hey Antony, I just read your regime today and it sounds promising. However, right now I don't think I'll be able to do anything that requires me to eat just apples for three days straight. I am only fifteen years old and underweight for my height. I don't think I would have enough energy to get through the day with just apples.

Is there another program you could recommend?

I do drink two liters of water a day, and try to incorporate as much fruits and vegetables as possible. I also take a multi-vitamin supplement that has Vitamin A, C, D, E, B6, B12, Thiamin, Niacin, Folic Acid, and Pantothenic Acid. In addition, I am also on dynacin prescribed by my dermatologist. My acne has gotten so much better since I started doing this, but I think I could further improve my diet and reap more benefits.

I didn't start having severe acne until last year, probably because during the summer I soaked in the sun without any sunscreen. Ugh, so dumb. But my skin has gotten alot better from the acne medication and much improved diet. However, my skin is still very oily with a few blackheads and red pimples. I also have some minor scaring in the cheeks and alot of red and dark marks. I hope they will fade with time, but I'm not a very patient person.

I've tried the topical program before for four days because I have heard that it greatly speeds up the healing process. I think the baking soda and apple cider vinegar helped with some of the dark marks, but it kind of irritated my skin and new pimples started showing. I'm not consistent with the baking soda and vinegar though, I'm afraid that if I do it everyday that I'll start breaking out. Oh yeah, I'm also not using the egg mask with lemon juice, I have tried the egg mask before with the yolk, and it broke me out so bad. I'm really scared to do the egg mask even though it is only using the whites.

Do you have any suggestions?

[carmina16]

hey anton

where can i buy that kind of organic..

so ill go to super market and ask for organic golden apples??

so thats the green one.. uhmmm.. so excited

[Solipsist]

antony - thanks for posting your success with us. i really hope your clearing continues!

i would definitely give this regimen a try, but i'm a bit concerned (as m1n1 is) about my weight. i have a very, very hyper thyroid and as of right now i'm an 18 year old male, 6'4 and around 135. i have a very crazy appetite to match my metabolism and the apple factor sounds like suicide for my body type - perhaps you can shed some light on this, oh guru of all things bodily?

thanks in advance!

[carmina16]

Hey anthon are u there....

where can i buy organic golden apples?

is this really works??


in what week u can feel it works(pls understand my english pls) ^_^

can i only do the fast & flash

im current 16 years old turning to college(my first step to college)
can i use this while having College i mean.. in school days..???

u know my acne seems improving.. but i want best result..
coz today i only eat fruit vegetables water and orange juice...
it help a little bit.... but i think ur program will do the best thing for me so.. pls help me pls!!!... ^^

[carmina16]

folow up question... ^^

about the liver somting flush????

can u explain it for me ..

i canot understand english well^^

thx again.. pls answer my other quetion maybe ill try this.... next week!!..
excited but... scared about getting hungry....

[carmina16]

can i do only the flash & flash??

[igotmyphilosophy]

Uhhhhh.... I wasn't sure where to put this question, since it is in regards to your Korean friend in Toronto with severely cystic acne and about your program, but anyways, did you/have you recommended your program to him? Has it worked? How is he doing? Generally, I mean, like can he gracefully handle having acne ? Because I am in complete awe of people who do....

Anyways, let us know whats up,
i.g.m.p.

[Antony]

Just had a few questions. 

I have lemon juice in a bottle, is that the same as a freshly squeezed lemon?  What is the conversion rates?  1 fresh lemon is like a few tblspoons? 

3 minutes cleansing thing.  Did you mean like over a kettle of boiling water?

i know you recommended the emu moisturizer thing, but is using something like aloe vera oil or jojoba oil good?

What is the significance of using baking soda and also the egg white/lemon mix?

Also why is it good to take saw palmetto, olive leaf extract, oregano oil, and garlic tablets?

Also you recommended taking Total EFA.  I heard taking flax seed oil is very important, like you're supposed to take 8,000 iu's or something a day.  Does this provide all of that?

Another question I have is you say to get one of these multivitamins (DermaMed or perfecil), but then you go on and say get like 1000mg vitamin C and 50mg zinc, 200ug selenium, and 200ug chromium.  Wouldn't a multivitamin cover most of that?  Or I would have to buy a separate supplement for all of those listed. 

About the chicken portions.  What kind did you have in mind?  Like a chicken leg or breast?  Or chicken nuggets/patties? 

For the vitamin A and E amounts, how exactly do you take those.  I don't really know much about taking liquid supplements except via tablespoons.  But you just say like Vitamin A (15,000 IU's), how much does that entail? 

Finally, you said like eat 4 raw egg yolks or something.  Isn't it bad to eat raw things, couldn't you get salmonella poisoning?  I've like never eatten anything raw before :o

I'm planning on trying this regimen just wanted to clear a few things up so its less overwhelming hehe.  It would seem like I'll have to buy a load of stuff online.  Hopefully not super expensive though.

- do not use lemon juice in bottle, contains E-number preservatives (see label) for shelf-life which prevent absorption and are in nutritional and especially cleansing effect very different from a fresh squeezed lemon, takes just extra 1 minute to slice and squeeze lemon (get lemon squeezer $5 USD if if not already have one), this makes a big diff

- 3 mins steaming face over bowl or sink into which you've poured water just boiled in a kettle, towel draped over your head like little tent to trap steam, very relaxing! you will love it and included properly as part of rest of cleansing regimen within days you will see great results

- aloe vera & jojoba are good alternatives, i will add them as such in the program, i know that emu oil can be hard to find

-baking soda exfoliates (should use gently, as described) to remove dead skin cells otherwise they clump up atop and around sebum-sticky pores potentially blocking them causing acne; egg/lemon mask-- the albumin in egg white tightens and refines pores, the protein, carotenoids, b vitamins and vitamin A enriches skin, the lemon mildly helps dissolve sebum in pimples (as does vinegar) and lightens inflammation

- saw palmetto: helps balance androgens; olive leaf/oregano/garlic: antibacterial and improves acne-related body function in every imaginable way, esp great for cystic acne and/or digestive issues/candida

-flaxseed IUs: The Total EFA gives you everything you need; it's the best

- it's deliberately extra supplementation on top of the multivitamin; i have thoroughly researched and triple-checked all of this with several doctors and respected, medically certified naturopaths alike, and it's all perfectly safe. if you have any doubts don't hesitate to ask your GP about supplement doses, though unfortunately doctors actually tend not to know much about how much vitamin C is safe to take on a daily basis because they never learned anything about prescribing vitamin C in medical college! however, that information IS out there and it is actually very easy for you to look up if you don't trust me because I guess after all I'm just dude on the internet right?! taking the supplements just as I advise has been borne out by experience as the best way to get results; with time if you find all the supplementing tedious you can taper the doses and even cut out supplements to see how your skin stays clear-- once you're clear as you want to be, keep cutting back the supplements till you notice a change in your skin. once you really clear up and stay clear for at least a few weeks without breakouts, you can get into a sort of maintenance mode, getting more rigorous again if you see your acne comin back at ya

-chicken: any chicken EXCEPT fried; raw chicken breast/leg cooked in oven ideal; processed breaded kind in microwave if you must but this is REALLY cheating buddy-- you'd better make up for it by doing everything else 100%!

- raw eggs yolk totally fine, especially if (a) taking also probiotic esp primal defense AND (b) eggs are free range. rate of salmonella even in your regular supermarket egg yolks is actually estimated at approx less than 1 in 10,000-- and extremely rarer in free range eggs, to say nothing of your gut being virtually impervious to salmonella if you have a good acidophilus population courtesy of probiotic supplements; if still very worried you can if you absolutely must fry the eggs but this oxidizes important nutrients and spoils the most healthful effectsl; championship boxers and bodybuilders routinely eat raw egg yolks every day for years and years and have no problem; if you're still really worried about it you can cook them but this ruins the point

-the IUs per each tablet/capsule for all vitamins/supplements are on the labels and you can preview all this info online or in a store before buying so you can work out how much to buy from the program directions. so for example you see 400IU vitamin E twice daily and look at the bottle in the store or online and see that it contains 100 caps of Vitamin E, each one 400IU (usually the case), and so you know this bottle will last you 50 days.

-expense of supplementation: this is the one part of the program that's really going to cost you money beyond what your used to spending (i.e. already spend money on food and my diet actually saves you money; cleansing regimen DEFINITELY saves you money). the supplements you buy in the big bottles may seem pricey but actually there's enough in each bottle, taken at the doses I suggest, to last you at least 2 months, sometimes more. A good idea is go around to my linked sites online or at your local health store/s with my program for a shopping list and write down the best price for each supplement. Then see how much the quantity of the product in question is in terms of how it will last you using it as I advise (see my vitamin E example above). in a few minutes with a calculatore you can now predict how much it will all cost altogether for several months and even a year, bearing in mind that once you are clear you can being tapering down the doses if you want to see if you stay clear, then mabe even cutting out supps to see if youre still OK

GOOD LUCK SUPREMEONE! And good lord you ask more questions than a Gestapo agent.

Hey Anthony,

Just want to say you look great.  Im so happy for you!  Your regimine is extensive and I am glad that it has worked for you and hopefully others. 

I appreciate all your work.  I can tell that you are passionate about keeping the skin healthy and that you do alot of research.

Have you ever thought of becoming a Derm?  You seem perfect for the job!

Good luck

thank you so much rowan; i really appreciate that; have thought about it, maybe, will see after i finish my undergrad in literature and philosophy; really heading more into writing and acting now but dermatology has clearly been quite a passion; just glad to help others, and dan kern's story on this site about a friend giving him a copy of a self-help book telling him the key to success and happiness is doing whatever is the best way YOU can help others really inspired me, so thought i'd throw in my own 2 cents here at acne.org. thanks a lot for your support!

Hey Antony, I just read your regime today and it sounds promising. However, right now I don't think I'll be able to do anything that requires me to eat just apples for three days straight. I am only fifteen years old and underweight for my height. I don't think I would have enough energy to get through the day with just  apples.

Is there another program you could recommend?

I do drink two liters of water a day, and try to incorporate as much fruits and vegetables as possible. I also take a multi-vitamin supplement that has Vitamin A, C, D, E, B6, B12, Thiamin, Niacin, Folic Acid, and Pantothenic Acid. In addition, I am also on dynacin prescribed by my dermatologist. My acne has gotten so much better since I started doing this, but I think I could further improve my diet and reap more benefits.

I didn't start having severe acne until last year, probably because during the summer I soaked in the sun without any sunscreen. Ugh, so dumb.  But my skin has gotten alot better from the acne medication and much improved diet. However, my skin is still very oily with a few blackheads and red pimples. I also have some minor scaring in the cheeks and alot of red and dark marks. I hope they will fade with time, but I'm not a very patient person.

I've tried the topical program before for four days because I have heard that it greatly speeds up the healing process. I think the baking soda and apple cider vinegar helped with some of the dark marks, but it kind of irritated my skin and new pimples started showing. I'm not consistent with the baking soda and vinegar though, I'm afraid that if I do it  everyday that I'll start breaking out. Oh yeah, I'm also not using the egg mask with lemon juice, I have tried the egg mask before with the yolk, and it broke me out so bad. I'm really scared to do the egg mask even though it is only using the whites.

Do you have any suggestions?

hi there: if anything makes you react badly or doesn't work for whatever reason, just drop it. if it doesn't work for you it doesn't work, so just drop it. usually it's best to give it at least a few days first, but if it's proving so "violently" counterproductive than accept it and move on to what does work. there's enough here to cover all the basees

a simpler program: i totally understand where you're coming from because weight (my relative leanness at 6'2" and 70kg, and of course a guy) is a big deal for many of us and some of us do worry about losing it. you can always do the rest of the program without the fast-flush but I'd really like you to do it and here's how: do the fast-flush but for you I would say do it on a long weekend or break when you can afford to more or less chill out for the 3 days, second- eat as many apples as you possibly need to so you simpy don't feel hungry; you WILL have cravings for rich, sugary, chocolatey foods but this is very different from feeling empty as opposed to full; you feel these cravings because, amazingly, you will realize just how conditioned both psychologically and nutritionally you've become to these snacks, even if you don't usually eat them. I rarely ate them before my first fast-flush and was amazed at how much i was fantasizing about candy bars i hadn't eaten in years. it's quite incredible. as a teenager you have a very high metabolism and a nutritionally demanding body hence your technically underweight bodymass index right now, so i will repeat only do this flush when you have time all to yourself and don't ahve to go running around, and also be sure to eat as many apples as you could possibly desire so that you simply don't ever get hungry. In the meantime, it might be a good idea to get a head start on the cleansing regimen. Good Luck!

antony - thanks for posting your success with us. i really hope your clearing continues!

i would definitely give this regimen a try, but i'm a bit concerned (as m1n1 is) about my weight. i have a very, very hyper thyroid and as of right now i'm an 18 year old male, 6'4 and around 135. i have a very crazy appetite to match my metabolism and the apple factor sounds like suicide for my body type - perhaps you can shed some light on this, oh guru of all things bodily? 

thanks in advance!

hi Solipsist; see comments above, also if you are very very concerned about your weight you can if you must also add in lots of cucumber and celery on top of all the apples; also bear in mind the ironic but medically obvious nature of the traditional sudden/short-term calorie-restriction diet-- almost everyone who does them quickly enough puts on all that weight and often even more after stopping the diet, because the metabolism (yes even someone like yours) goes into survival mode more efficiently and protectively converting and storing fats in your body from the food you eat. So after the apple fast when you move into the anti-inflammatory diet you will actually gain weight from it more easily than if you just started eating the anti-inflammatory diet right now. I totally appreciate your concern though. Have you seen a doctor about your thyroid? also some supplements are very good for hyperthyroidism such as b vitamins and EFAs (both covered in the program)-- Black Cohosh is also VERY good (search on any of the linked vitamin sites in the supplement section) for overactive thyroid. If you're worried about your BMI for your height then you want a high-calorie high-protein diet (that won't cause acne): my diet is best I've found. If it works for you then you can also add in good quality whey protein shakes (http://www.bodybuilding.com)and several cans of tuna and see if your skin is still ok-- this will go along way for weight, combined with 3x weekly weightlifting. Take care and let me know how it works out for you.

Hey anthon are u there....

where can i buy organic golden apples?

is this really works??
in what week u can feel it works(pls understand my english pls) ^_^

can i only do the fast & flash

im current 16 years old turning to college(my first step to college)
can i use this while having College i mean.. in school days..???

u know my acne seems improving.. but i want best result..
coz today i only eat fruit vegetables water and orange juice...
it help a little bit.... but i think ur program will do the best thing for me so.. pls help me pls!!!... ^^

amazing that you'd only want to do the fast-flush-- most people are willing to do everything else BUT the fast-flush. your english is actually very good! you can buy organic golden delicious apples at any good, large supermarket. if you really can't find them, then normal golden delicious apples are OK. they are green in colour and will say "Golden Delicious" on the sticker/label. you can of course do this at college if you take charge of what eat and don't just eat in the cafeteria. I am in college myself and this has never been a problem for me. Good luck to you!

[Antony]

Uhhhhh.... I wasn't sure where to put this question, since it is in regards to your Korean friend in Toronto with severely cystic acne and about your program, but anyways, did you/have you recommended your program to him? Has it worked? How is he doing? Generally, I mean, like can he gracefully handle having acne ? Because I am in complete awe of people who do....

Anyways, let us know whats up,
i.g.m.p.

hey there. i showed my program to my friend and he said it was too hard for him. i told him that people with really mild acne were so upset about their acne that they were so thrilled when they did the whole program and saw such good results. if their acne was mild, surely it was worth his time for him to try it, right? i guess he's just not as bothered by it. i think he IS bothered by it somewhat, probably more than he lets on, but he must not be bothered by it enough to do the program. anyway, he started Accutane about a month ago I think so hopefully that willl work out for him. thanks for asking.

[carmina16]

when is the first effect of this? after some diarrhea? or after 2weeks flash & flush??
i mean the effect... mean lessen of acne.....

[hazelwilson]

My 14 year old has been using the bp gel along with the beurer softlaser. His skin looks really good. Sometimes his skin was irratatated, but now it seems non-reactive. The two products I think work great together.
Hazel

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when is the first effect of this? after some diarrhea? or after 2weeks flash & flush??
i mean the effect... mean lessen of acne.....
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[hazelwilson]

My son has done the lemon juice thing as well. His best results have been from the beurer softlaser and the BP Gel. He seems to very please with the results and sometimes this treatment can become very expensive.

Uhhhhh.... I wasn't sure where to put this question, since it is in regards to your Korean friend in Toronto with severely cystic acne and about your program, but anyways, did you/have you recommended your program to him? Has it worked? How is he doing? Generally, I mean, like can he gracefully handle having acne ? Because I am in complete awe of people who do....

Anyways, let us know whats up,
i.g.m.p.

[m1n1]

Hurmm, what I am going to try to do is to dirnk the water with lemon juice now. And maybe incorporating the olive oil with lemon juice and see how that works.

Antony, could I use just olive oil and not extra virgin? Is there really a major difference?

[Antony]

Hurmm, what I am going to try to do is to dirnk the water with lemon juice now. And maybe incorporating the olive oil with lemon juice and see how that works.

Antony, could I use just olive oil and not extra virgin? Is there really a major difference?

I myself have experience only with extra virgin olive oil. Anywhere you can buy olive oil you can usually also buy extra virgin olive oil and there usually more or less the same price. Ordinary olive oil is refined and therefore is in theory somewhat less ideal for a cleansing detox thing like this, but if you have to use it it's OK, it should still work perfectly fine. If you prefer, ordinary olive oil should suffice.

[Seanopoly]

Im going to try this, seems very motivating and i feel i can finally make a change in my life. maybe eating those nachoes at school everyday isnt so good afterall...well i really will try and maybe if something does change i will report back, but until then, wish me luck!!

[carmina16]

hey anthon

.. last question i think..

where is the first effect of this thing?? after 2weeks??

[carmina16]

hey anthon...


about that organic virgin olive oil 200ml ill drink it???

where can i found those stuff??

after that wat will happen to me??

CR in the morning??



and about that cleansing program by yours... i cannot understand.. a hot washcloth over my face then cold.... blah blah.. cant understand english well sory...!!!
pls explain it for me thx... simple english only pls...

[sk1927]

I'm giving the fast thing a go and I'm only 4 hours in and already feeling hungry. How long before it starts to work?

Oh and i'm not gay but you look great in your photo. the difference is unbelievable.