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[jan carlo]

So you've been using BP right? And it *kinda* suppresses acne, but makes it keep coming back right? And that your family doesn't have acne on their genes, ya? Well, you know what? You're far from destined to have acne. When did you get acne? And at that time, were you paranoid about it and started using medications, creams, and etc such as BP? Now, they're still there right?

Haha, you're the perfect example of someone who's not destined to have acne, but because of medications and stuff, you're getting acne. You and me are perfect examples.

Stop the medications right now!

But wait, of course, everyone, after stopping their medications right away, will breakout. I did.

That's why you stop in a gradual process: use vinegar instead of BP.

Then after a month, or even just weeks, as long as no more acne exists. You're talking about big acnes right? Not just tiny bumps? Because if you're "mild/moderate" acne are just tiny bumps that has your skin color, then don't even go to vinegar because vinegar is worse at preventing tiny bumps. Just go with water or a gentle cleanser like Cetaphil.

Again, of course you'll break out after stopping BP, but only for a while. The great thing about it is that you'll break out only for a week or two, but then after that, it will stop and you won't have to use BP anymore, therefore, preventing further damage to your skin. As a result, your "mild/moderate" acne that you think you have, will be gone. All that will be left are red marks, which are no problem at all.

So, what do you have to do now? Stop BP and start with vinegar to minimize breakouts. Now, after you have no more breakouts, stop vinegar immediatly, then start with just Water or a gentle cleanser like Cetaphil.

There you go, have fun.

[johns]

Yeah I'm quitting BP. I bought Dan's BP gel and I'm going to use it as a spot treatment/back-up every 2 or 3 days at night.

[jan carlo]

No offense for Dan, but BP as a spot treatment is bad too. Guess what, two of my biggest scars are from BP! DAMN! I really hoped I haven't used BP. BP are just worse on healing. It suppresses building up of new skin cells, therefore, SCARS!

[jan carlo]

Can you explain how you put vinegar on your face?  How long do you put it on, what do you put it on with, do you rinse it off, etc..?  Will my face be red after I put the vinegar on?

There's a 33-page thread on RED MARKS section of this forum, so I think you should read that. But I'll make long explanation short, Vinegar was initially proven to reduce red marks. Of course, to some people, this didn't work. However, after many of us used it, we all noticed that it has been sucking up the white stuff from whiteheads in just a few days, which is great because we don't have to pop them and produce scars. Now, that's one great thing we accidentally discovered. Now, next, well, I don't know to the rest, but Vinegar has been suppressing new acnes, although not perfect, but it still is great because it doesn't damage our skin like BP or so, therefore, less BIG pimples, and less acne overall.

Alright, for how to apply vinegar. First, you must cleanse your face, I advice, just water, hottish, but not very hot water. Swipe your face for like 5 gentle seconds. Then, after that, pat your face dry with a towel, then wait for a minute, then apply DILUTED vinegar (either Apple Cider or Rice) using a cotton to ACNED AREAS ONLY! That's important, only on acned areas. Then, just leave it on. It will, or might sting you, depending on your skin. If it stings you, use it only once a day, like at night time. If it doesn't, feel free to use it twice. Remember, that if you have no more big acnes after using vinegar for a week or three, then immediately stop it, and just start with water because from that point on, it will worsen/roughen your skin. Or a best alternative is a very very gentle cleanser such as Clearasil. I recommend water since it's free and as 90% as effective as Clearasil.

There you go.

K, have fun!

[Oneoftheguys]

I tried a lot of different medications and came to the same conclusion you did. I quit doing anything for a long time. My ache went away, but after a month if came back bad and I started using meds again. Should I have waited longer to see if the second outbreak would disappear?

[jan carlo]

There could be a lot of factors why it came back. Remember, DIET certainly affects acne. Also, maybe you stopped medications, but you still aggravate your skin like picking, touching, over-washing, etc. I am certainly sure it's your DIET though because me too, my acne went away, but then after Christmas, it came back because of all those candies. However, that only lasted for a few days, and now, they're gone. It's all the red marks that's left, which still sucks though.

I don't know what to answer your question because I don't have any visuals or stuff but remember this though, if you start with medications now, you'll forever be with them. How about you remember why you stopped medications at the first place, and also, remember what happened? Acne went away right? How about now that you're in medications, acne's still there right?

Alright. Good luck!

[jan carlo]

I have a new theory! Read my first post, and scroll all the way to the bottom of that post.

[Humf.]

what to do about shaving?

[jan carlo]

I don't know about shaving much really cuz I'm 17 and not really growing that much hair, haha. I am, kinda. Best way: Electric Shaver. ALSO, it's important that if you have acne on your hair area, DO NOT shave them. I mean, it's better to have facial hair than for them to see your acne or red mark. IRRITATION IS (one of) THE CAUSE of acne.

[cbfog]

Jan Carlo you sure know how to beat a topic absolutely to death.

[jan carlo]

Slow brain here, wadda ya mean?

[Carl]

Jan Carlo you sure know how to beat a topic absolutely to death.

Haha yeah, but he knows what hes talking about, unlike most.

[ComputerTechMan]

how is water supposed to cleanse ur face. oil and water dont mix...that's why we have to use a medium such as soap. water alone can't remove the trapped dirt and oil.

[jan carlo]

Haha yeah, but he knows what hes talking about, unlike most.

Haha. True. And Thanks.

[jan carlo]

how is water supposed to cleanse ur face.  oil and water dont mix...that's why we have to use a medium such as soap.  water alone can't remove the trapped dirt and oil.

You gotta read my first post, and following posts on this topic since I believe I kinda explained it, but I'll explain it again.

...but you know what? You're right, water and oil don't mix, but using soap and water, irritates your face, making it more prone to acne. I really don't know how it's cleansing our face. It could be, or could be not, but that's why I recommended HOT WATER, but not too hot, because things dissolve more in hot water. That's why tea is recommended to be put on hot water.

My point on making this topic though is to not about cleaning your face. Acne is not caused by dirt really, unless you work on coal mines. Acne is, for the most of us, are caused by our own doings - our own paranoia of eliminating them that we use as much things as we can, even by BP alone, that's already too much.

Well, I don't want to explain my whole thing again, but just read it. I don't have a microscope or anything to check if water is cleansing our face or not, but whatever. If it works, it works.

Also, my point of bringing water up is that IT IS ENOUGH, by itself to prevent acne.

Of course, switching directly to WATER is not good because, well, it's like stopping medications instantly. That's the cause why I recommend a transition product, which could be anything, just as long as it's less damaging than the medication. Vinegar is a good transition product. I can't think of anything else besides vinegar though.

[jan carlo]

PERSONAL UPDATE:

I may sound hypocritic because I am the one stating about this prevention from acne, and I still have acne, although very mild, but I FREAKING CAN'T CONTROL MY DIET!

The Pizza, the Chocolate Fudge Cake, the Soda, the Chocolate, the... ugh.

Well, I ate pizza two days in a row, and guess what, ACNE GALORE!

TWO DAYS OF PIZZA - TWO BUMPS OF ACNE

Hate it.

Alright, I promise to control my diet from this day on.

I really don't know, but going from moderate acne to like mild with only a few bumps left makes me even more careless because it seems that I am free now and could do anything I want, therefore, BAD DIET.

DIET TRULY AFFECTS ACNE - REMEMBER THAT! LEARN FROM ME!

[cbfog]

on noes. 2 zits are teh hell

[jan carlo]

...2 zits, plus a million red marks, plus the risk of getting scarred, plus a few more zits that just popped up a while ago because of the pizza I ate today...

Well, that's hell.

[cbfog]

Unless you took that greasy pizza and rubbed it all over your face, I find it hard to believe that one meal of pizza would cause you to break out with more than one or two tiny zits.
Why don't you post some pictures so everyone can see how well your water only regimen is working?
I hardly ever eat greasy food and I break out anyways. I can drink beer and eat fried chicken all weekend and not get any zits, and then the next week get like four zits out of nowhere and I have been living like a Hindu ascetic eating only rice, bread, and water. Maybe some cheese

[jan carlo]

Ya, I know it's hard to believe it too, but you know what, your skin and mine's, are different, and my skin is more prone to acne, therefore... wait, I posted something like this. Here, read this:

"Alright, I have discovered something from experience, observation, collection of data, forums, people, etc. Wonder why you inherit acne form your parents? Well, no, you don't inherit acne from parents, but rather, their skin type. Acne is not inherited. No one in this world has a skin that is totally immune to acne, and no, not even the clear people you see today. Why so? It is because their skin type is one that is very strong from acquiring acne. Many of us who have acne are fated to have them because our skin is not strong enough, therefore, a little disturbance into our skin, such as hormonal changes, diet, and etc that alters our skin will make us breakout. This is why DIET very much affects acne. Well, why is it that even though you eat a box of chocolate and still not breakout while everything else makes you break out? Well, everyone has some kind of line, which depends on the strength of their digestive system, that they cannot cross. What I mean is that everyone can eat chocolate, sweets, etc, just as long as they don't cross that line because once you cross that line, then that's when what you eat affects your acne. The thing is: EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT LINES. This is why some people believe that diet does not affect acne at all. It is because they haven't crossed that line yet, which is maybe because of the effectiveness of their digestive system or etc. If you don't believe this, how about you try eating a room full of chocolates, that would for sure cross anyone's line."

That was on my first post. I just recently added that.

I ate 5 or 6 pieces of pizza, plus soda today, and that definitely caused some bumps to pop up. Some people actually breakout even by a few pieces of chocolate bars.

I got no pictures with me, but it really won't do anything because I never take close up pictures, because I had bad acne in the past so there's nothing really to compare it to.

Don't make your skin a model and generalization for everyone else's skin, because we all have different skin types, different metabolism rates, different hormonal balance, and etc. What works or is bad for you may or may not work for someone else so stop posting bullshit, just for the sake of making useless arguments.

"on noes. 2 zits are teh hell"
-what the hell is that?!

Also, DIET is just one factor of causing acne, so if you think your diet is optimum, but you're still getting acne, how about you examine everything else you do daily. Maybe it is you after all that wipes greasy pizza, or in your case, your "greasy" hands from masturbating, on your face. Maybe that's what causes your acne, so you better stop that if you want clear skin.

By the way, Masturbating has no relation with acne. However, masturbating, and wiping off the liquid on your face might cause acne because it clogs up pores .