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#21 jan carlo

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Posted 15 January 2005 - 02:18 PM

QUOTE(Kimpossible @ Jan 15 2005, 08:02 AM)
Jon Carlo - those tips u gave, i've been doing it for some years now (though i still eat a bunch of chocolates every now & then)  biggrin.gif

I'd been suffering s.e.v.e.r.e acne like forever.. it runs in my family. All my brothers suffered the same. I have had my friend staring at my face and actually told me that she would rather kill herself if she had my problem - I was so stressed out and drastically quit all the medications! Cuz they weren't helping either. Well that was over 5 years ago!  smile.gif

And yes, i still had breakouts of big ol' cysts, papules, white heads, etc.. all those bad acnes .. gradually tamed down.

As time goes by, the less i worry = less breakouts. Right diets & exercises sure help!  smile.gif
Now, i've been doing the vinegar/lemon regimen for almost a month and it helps a lot with complexions and does a real gr8 job preventing breakouts (after a week or 2) as the vinegar/lemon resets skin pH to normal. Now, i only have one small mild acne instead of bad ones..So this works EVEN for those with severe acne problems... Yep, it TAKES TIME, Patience & persistence wink.gif

i also came across a web giving tips for making your own mild cleanser by mixing honey and milk! Ppl with SLS sensitive might want to try this  cool.gif

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THIS IS COOL! WOW. Congratulations. So, well, I guess I should change it to that it would also work for severe acnes! YUP, it just takes time, patience, faith, and courage. That's all folks, and your acne's soon gonna fade away.

About your mild acne. Hey, guess what, my mild acne faded to no bumps and acne growing for just a month. It is because I switched from vinegar to water. Vinegar is the best on cysts and big acnes. It is actually the best on prevention of BIG ACNES AND BIG CYSTS, but is kinda worse on preventing small mild acne. However, once you've been using vinegar for many months and have noticed that you rarely get BIG ACNEs and BIG Cysts, then it is time to switch to water. For a two or so weeks, you face would be kinda the same, and for the next two weeks, you'll still notice that your face would still be the same, and for the next few months you'll notice that your face would still be the same, and suddenly, you look at the mirror one morning and you'll see your face CLEAR!

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Posted 15 January 2005 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE(cbfog @ Jan 15 2005, 10:31 AM)
Jan Carlo, ever think that this worked for you because you grew out of your acne? I didn't get acne bad at all until I was about 16 years old. Since then it became gradually worse until I started using medications which helped to tame it. Now I know for a fact that if I stopped using these medications and only used water, I would have a horrific breakout, and no matter how many months I waited, it wouldn't go away. This is because I am genetically predisposed to acne. My father had severe cystic acne, and my mother also had bad acne when she was young. Anyways the point is that you probably are just one of those lucky enough to have grown out of it at a young age. Besides, I wouldn't be declaring my acne miraculously cured if I were as young as you  rolleyes.gif

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SORRY. I know it's hard to wake up and know that you're destined to have severe acne. Try accutane. That has helped a lot of people with your type. Well, if you remember, I said something like this:

"THIS WILL, AND IS PERFECT FOR MILD AND MODERATE ACNE ONLY. SORRY PEOPLE WITH SEVERE ONES. IT'S JUST YOUR CAUSE OF ACNE IS DIFFERENT FROM PEOPLE WITH MILD AND MODERATE. For severe ones, accutane is the perfect solution. Is this method a Miracle method? Nope, but it absolutely works! (This is a generalized statement. This may or may not work for you, depends on the level of your acne.) Here, read my post."

Most people with acne, actually, a huge percentage of people who have acne are just prone to having mild, because of hormonal changes during puberty, pregnancy or whatsoever. So, those are temporary breakouts that would last for many months. However, just months, and maybe a few years (for puberty people). But they're not destined to have acne forever. Now, the problem is, out of paranoia, they use all these medications and stuff. As a result, MORE ACNE!

It is basically like a cycle - a horrible one. YOU HAVE ACNE -> YOU PUT MEDICATIONS -> HELPS A LITTLE, BUT MAKES YOUR SKIN EVEN MORE PRONE (SO AFTER YOU STOP THE MEDICATION, YOU'LL GET MORE ACNES).

Ever noticed or heard that some people who have used ProActiv or Benzoyl Peroxide, just after two or so months, their face becomes worse than before?

But about your case, Accutane is the perfect solution. Talk to people who have used accutane. Their skin are great now.

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Posted 15 January 2005 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE(blackbirdbeatle @ Jan 14 2005, 09:22 PM)
In the long, long run, anything with oxide in it will not be good. You're skin will age faster and you'll look older than you really are. It's a tradeoff, do BP now and hope that you grow out of it in a few years, or do it for decades and pay the price later.

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You are right on track blackbirdbeatle. My father, who is a doctor, told me that. And when he found out that I am using Benzoyl Peroxide, he got so mad at me, and yelled at me, and also gave me a huge lecture about Peroxides and stuff and talked about Hydroxyl Peroxide and anything with Peroxide, and told me that if he sees anymore Benzoyl Peroxides in the house, he'll throw it away.

That was before though. Like months after I stopped BP.

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Posted 15 January 2005 - 02:35 PM

QUOTE(Pika @ Jan 15 2005, 12:15 PM)
why would you go from being noticed in the community, and just make a new sn?

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Because I am annoyed with my old screen name since it is a kiddie and geeky screenname. I first signed up with that screen name because my GameFaqs.com account is also that same screen name. Now, I just made it more personal and more me. I know it is a stupid move, but I am grown up now biggrin.gif

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Posted 15 January 2005 - 03:59 PM

I would just like to say that I think you could make a great living doing informercials. Anyways, I wouldn't say my acne was ever SEVERE, but it would go through cycles of getting better, and then a lot worse. Retin-A is the only thing that's ever helped. I've never considered it severe enough to where I think I need Accutane, then again I know that just water would never work.

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Posted 15 January 2005 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE(cbfog @ Jan 15 2005, 02:59 PM)
I would just like to say that I think you could make a great living doing informercials. Anyways, I wouldn't say my acne was ever SEVERE, but it would go through cycles of getting better, and then a lot worse. Retin-A is the only thing that's ever helped. I've never considered it severe enough to where I think I need Accutane, then again I know that just water would never work.

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Cool. What does one do when doing Informercials? Never heard of that type of job. Can you give me an example?

About your severe acne, read this post. I really don't have much information and knowledge about severe since I haven't experienced it. However, read this post from Kimpossible:

"Jon Carlo - those tips u gave, i've been doing it for some years now (though i still eat a bunch of chocolates every now & then)

I'd been suffering s.e.v.e.r.e acne like forever.. it runs in my family. All my brothers suffered the same. I have had my friend staring at my face and actually told me that she would rather kill herself if she had my problem - I was so stressed out and drastically quit all the medications! Cuz they weren't helping either. Well that was over 5 years ago!

And yes, i still had breakouts of big ol' cysts, papules, white heads, etc.. all those bad acnes .. gradually tamed down.

As time goes by, the less i worry = less breakouts. Right diets & exercises sure help!
Now, i've been doing the vinegar/lemon regimen for almost a month and it helps a lot with complexions and does a real gr8 job preventing breakouts (after a week or 2) as the vinegar/lemon resets skin pH to normal. Now, i only have one small mild acne instead of bad ones..So this works EVEN for those with severe acne problems... Yep, it TAKES TIME, Patience & persistence

i also came across a web giving tips for making your own mild cleanser by mixing honey and milk! Ppl with SLS sensitive might want to try this"


Also, you really should try Accutane. I mean, even Jessika Simpson did it. How's Retin-A by the way? Never used that product. Do you still have existing acne?

My point for this topic is to make you independent from medications which are bad in the long run. Very true really.

And also, about your post,
"but it would go through cycles of getting better, and then a lot worse"

That's exactly what medications have as an effect. I think I said this in one of my posts. I've experienced that soo many times, and also, people I know who have been using medications are like that too. That is because medications prevent acne, but damages your skin somehow, which then causes acne.

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Posted 15 January 2005 - 04:28 PM

Nevermind. I searched for infomercials stuff. Well, anyways, I wouldn't do it because it is a declining business. People who watch tv, are now on the internet, so those TV ads are pretty useless. I've been thinking of a nurse or a doctor because I like helping people and saving their lives. I am really confused. I am a high school senior right now. Also, I've been thinking of going into computer programming because I am good at them and have made over 200 programs. Also, I would like to be like in the entertainment business, like host a show or something because I love doing that and very good at it, that's why I am a part of our schools' ASB, which does the entertainment, events, activities, and stuff at our school. I am totally confused about my future career. So many interests, that's why.

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Posted 16 January 2005 - 03:36 PM


you sound so confident and definitive in your preeching yet you're so uneducated on the subject....

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Posted 16 January 2005 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE(name1237895 @ Jan 16 2005, 02:36 PM)
you sound so confident and definitive in your preeching yet you're so uneducated on the subject....

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Well, it worked for me and many others. Actually, I even am jealous for my sister that she did not repeat the same mistakes I did. She just uses water and even though she's in her puberty period right now, she's not getting much zits. If it worked for me and others, isn't that enough proof to preach something? If it works, and not dangerous, then I have more than my right to provide this information. And how am I uneducated? Give me some concrete facts that goes totally against my subject. I was an acne sufferer for many years, and during those times, I have done countless hours of research and tried many stuff.

Speaking about education, you yourself are uneducated. Look back at your post.

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Posted 16 January 2005 - 10:19 PM

Jan carlo.....Keep spreading your experiences....people are just hating on the fact that this might not work for them...and their doubting that something so simple...can actually work...a lot of it has to do with patience with any treatment you try whether you on bp or trying a more natural approach.

There are a lot of us with mild/moderate acne..fall under that category...Its true, for me anyways my parents and brother never had it...i got acne when i hit puberty..its only on my face..and only in certain spots...its never been severe...and ever since ive been using products on my face, which probably have been irritating plus yrs of picking and squeezing, probably played a part in damaging my skin causing a more stubborn acne.
...i dont want to be do the regimen for years and then build up the mental attitude that ...oh if i get off ill break out...and have to keep at it vigourously forever and end up having to be dependent.
if there are those of you that dont mind doing a 30-40 minute acne treatment more power to you...especially if it is working wonders, but you cant knock something if it worked for someone else and others... some people have more complicated treatments then others....some just need water and patience others need bp, tree oil, SA, laser treatments, trozac and patience.

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Posted 17 January 2005 - 01:19 AM

QUOTE(pecan-ice @ Jan 16 2005, 09:19 PM)
Jan carlo.....Keep spreading your experiences....people are just hating on the fact that this might not work for them...and their doubting that something so simple...can actually work...a lot of it has to do with patience with any treatment you try whether you on bp or trying a more natural approach.

There are a lot of us with mild/moderate acne..fall under that category...Its true, for me anyways my parents and brother never had it...i got acne when i hit puberty..its only on my face..and only in certain spots...its never been severe...and ever since ive been using products on my face, which probably have been irritating plus yrs of picking and squeezing, probably played a part in damaging my skin causing a more stubborn acne.
...i dont want to be do the regimen for years and then build up the mental attitude that ...oh if i get off ill break out...and have to keep at it vigourously forever and end up having to be dependent.
if there are those of you that dont mind doing a 30-40 minute acne treatment more power to you...especially if it is working wonders, but you cant knock something if it worked for someone else and others... some people have more complicated treatments then others....some just need water and patience others need bp, tree oil, SA, laser treatments, trozac and patience.

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Hey, thanks for the support man. Also, it's really true that this method is simple. If someone else posted this kind of method, I wouldn't believe it too because it's just way too unbelievable both scientific and common sense. I am glad though that I figured this method out. Now, I am certainly clear, with just a few left, and red marks all over though. However, red marks are gradually fading. If they don't believe this and have no faith or courage, then tough luck for them. Again, thanks for the support.

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Posted 17 January 2005 - 10:49 AM

First i like to say good tread eusa_drool.gif But something came up to my mind what if ive been using bp for say 3months now i just put it when i see bumps or new pimples so should i stop doing that and start using aloe vera gel instead? I also got those nature cure pills they say it is made by natural products should i keep on taking them? thanks for the help smile.gif



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Posted 17 January 2005 - 05:36 PM

While I don't know about using just water, I do agree with the general principles of this post. Throughout all of my teenage years I have used almost every over-the-counter product for acne, and while some have made mild improvements and some have ravaged my skin, none have completely cured it. It wasn't until the last few months that I finally clued in and realized that perhaps I don't have acne - I just have SENSITIVE SKIN. Using this variety of acne products was wayyyy too harsh on my skin. For about a week now I've been using Dove sensitive skin products, and I love them. They're gentle on the skin, and have left it soft and healthy. The remaining acne is slowly but surely clearing up, and no new spots have formed. Now it's time to tackle the red marks with vinegar!

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Posted 17 January 2005 - 06:16 PM

Well, I've tried all the products and tried nothing. Either way, the acne comes.

There are different types of acne and you have to balance things out so as not to irritate the acne.

Definitely, constant picking on acne spreads the infection and makes it worse.

Poppping acne has to be balanced, and it's hard to know when it will relieve pressure on the inflamed pus or aggravate it more.

Sometimes acne products have ingredients that irritate or cause clogged pores.

Above all, the skin does repair itself and thwart infection over time.

My problem was that I used to pick on acne which spread it all over my face. mad.gif

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Posted 17 January 2005 - 06:19 PM

Hey memorandum, thats exactly what i did!! biggrin.gif Find a gentle cleanser! Now that i've find the gentlest cleanser, i stick to it & combine it with vinegar/lemon method. The result is just gr8 cool.gif

TheK1d - aloe gel is ok. or u can use manukkah/tea tree oil on spots too wink.gif


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Posted 17 January 2005 - 06:34 PM

Jan Carlo, it's like you just read my mind and typed every word i thought about. I have figured it out also. Also, Studies have found any amount of stress causes acne(Stress about pimples particularly), not just the oil and dirt. When I was a teen i had acne on my forehead, grew my hair out and then my acne stopped, amazing isn't it. So stop worrying about ur pimples and stop noticing them.


PS, Benzoyl peroxide does more harm than good in the long term.

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Posted 17 January 2005 - 07:32 PM

You need to try the NO GRAIN diet from Mercola.com!

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 01:45 AM

QUOTE(TheK1d @ Jan 17 2005, 09:49 AM)
First i like to say good tread eusa_drool.gif But something came up to my mind what if ive been using bp for say 3months now i just put it when i see bumps or new pimples so should i stop doing that and start using aloe vera gel instead? I also got those nature cure pills they say it is made by natural products should i keep on taking them? thanks for the help smile.gif

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You know what? I really cannot help you much because I am only an expert on what I have used, and what I have read about. I don't even know about Aloe Vera, and never tried it because my mom does not want to buy it to me because it's expensive. Also, about nature pills, are they vitamins or supplemental pills? I have heard a lot of good things about it too. Like I said though, this method is not for everyone. However, I believe that this method is perfectly for you because you rarely get bumps or pimples right? All I can give to you as a my basic advice is that BP are really bad on healing pimples. They are good on destroying the bacteria and stuff inside the pimple, but using BP will just increase your risk of having SCARS! I really really regret using BP. Maybe it is just me and my skin, but out of all the years of my acne era, my BIGGEST SCAR came from using BP! Argh! I suggest you stop BP and use Salicylic Acid 2% or Glycolic Acid #%, depending on your skin. Also, if those kind of pimples are big, and whiteheady, Vinegar is the best solution, because ask any of the Vinegar users here how great Vinegar is on sucking out the puss. And as long as you don't pop them while they're barely popable, you won't get scars. By the way, you're welcome.

Also, listen to Kimpossible because she's had worser acne than mine and have tried vast numbers of stuff to cure her severe acne, but also have almost the same theory as mine.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 01:54 AM

Alrighty everyone, I believe that I can state and conclude, just from my experience this week that DIET certainly affects acne. I have eaten about one-half of a whole pizza, and guess what, acne galore. They're just tiny bumps however which will go untrailed in a few days, but whew, am I lucky on not doing medications anymore, because if I was still doing medications, my skin would be so damaged and irritated that those bumps would actually be either whiteheads or big pimples. Anyways, that's my observation for this moment. Remember, DIET affects acne, well, at least for me. This is actually not a generalization, but true, even to all of us. Some people believe that DIET does not affect acne because no matter how much they eat, they don't break out. Well, the thing is, we all have different rates of metabolism and stuff. I said stuff because I dunno the other terms for the other ones and this is just a hypothesis. Well, some people have better metabolism or, correct me with my terms, that their line of breaking out is way farther than some of us, including me. Some actually just needs three bars of chocolate to breakout. Luckily, I am not like that.

Remember though that if you know that you will have an unressistable food party and unfriendly-for-the-face food sometime this month or week, it is very important to not use scrubs, exfoliators, medications, and etc because it would thin your skin, and instead of having just bare bumps, you would actually get whiteheads and big pimples.

I am just speaking from observation, so I am not 100% accurate with my terms and beliefs.

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Posted 18 January 2005 - 01:59 AM

QUOTE(CPANTH123 @ Jan 17 2005, 05:34 PM)
Jan Carlo, it's like you just read my mind and typed every word i thought about.  I have figured it out also. Also, Studies have found any amount of stress causes acne(Stress about pimples particularly), not just the oil and dirt.  When I was a teen i had acne on my forehead, grew my hair out and then my acne stopped, amazing isn't it. So stop worrying about ur pimples and stop noticing them. 
PS, Benzoyl peroxide does more harm than good in the long term.

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Cool! We're like twins, except that only on our beliefs. It's really great to have supporters of this method out there. I really knew this thing works. Also, about the BP, "it's like you just read my mind and typed every word i thought about."





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