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[sinashgh]

Good luck on your acne. Hope you suffer more.

lol... funny as hell but thats not cool bro.. its too harsh.. i dont actually wish Cbfag worse.. i hope he eventually gets over his acne too and can enjoy good things in life except just wanting attention on a fuckin internet message board.

[ann0yablepn0y]

what does dan think about this regimen?

[Calavera]

about 3 weeks ago i stopped using BP on the middle of my face (stopped using it on my forehead months ago because there was no acne) and it went fine.. last week i stopped using BP all together and within a week i got a massive breakout on my nose, below my nose, and my jaw.. not had anything like it since before i used BP alltogether and it makes me fee like crap :/

not shure if i should try it again.. maybe use silyaci acid oppose to BP ?

id really like to have no bleaching effect as i want to grow my hair and have a beard

[claud]

I have a question. I'm doing the Sacylic Acid only. What could subsitude with that? SA is gentle than BP.

[sinashgh]

yo xxGoody, i see i have a pm from u... probably talkin about same crap so you know what man.. I'll deal with you in the pm so we can keep this discussion flame-free from now on and get it back on-topic like Calavera did.

peace

[bananas]

everyone has theories of why acne forms and what ways to reduce it. Try it if you want... don't try it if you don't believe it will work. It's all up to you. No one's forcing anyone to try anything. Message boards are free for people to post their opinions, suggestions, questions, concerns, whatever, to improve acne. There's really no need to respond especially to debunk someone's theory when they themself haven't even tried it. who knows... every person's post of a "regimen" (including this entire site) may just work for one of you. some work for others some don't.

I myself have personally stopped using anything but Eucerin Pore Purifying Foaming Cleanser once every couple days. I chose this particular cleanser because it only has like what? 5 ingredients? less chance of irritation. This still dried me out so i'm using it maybe once every 3 days or so. That's the only thing I apply on my face. I used to use moisturizer with face wash everyday but now i'm reducing it to the bare minimum. Give it at least 4 weeks (seems ideal, no?) to see results before you change your personal regimen.

[jan carlo]

Thanks Calaveras, Claud, and Bananas for actually putting this thread on topic.

Alright. Now that everything's *kinda* back to normal, I just wish to have no more crap post, so Goody, cbfag, and etc who just wants to flood the board, I'm kindly asking to PLEASE don't. *someone has to lower the gate, and I'm being mature about it, so it's going to be me*

[jan carlo]

shut up u fag, don't mention me on your shit. I hope that's not your pic

Then get out of here. Dude, I wouldn't know even know you and there would be no trouble if you didn't post crap, eminem-wannabe. That's my pic a a few years back, and since I don't have a digital camera, then I can't update it.

[jan carlo]

about 3 weeks ago i stopped using BP on the middle of my face (stopped using it on my forehead months ago because there was no acne)  and it went fine.. last week i stopped using BP all together and within a week i got a massive breakout on my nose, below my  nose, and my jaw.. not had anything like it since before i used BP alltogether and it makes me fee like crap :/

not shure if i should try it again.. maybe use silyaci acid oppose to BP ?

id really like to have no bleaching effect as  i want to grow my hair and have a beard

But no acne on the forehead huh? Then why were you putting BP on your forehead if it has no acne? After I stopped BP, I also got a massive breakout. I mean, it's massive, and even the pimples are massive - I have never had anything like it before. Then, after a week, I started using vinegar. Vinegar helped A LOT, because lucky me, majority of those massive pimples are whiteheads, and that because of Vinegar, it pulled all of them out. So in like three or so days, those big pimples are just red marks. So, after that, I continued vinegar. I was still breaking out though, but just a bit. After a month or so, my breakouts have been suppressed.

I did not breakout with huge pimples, but small ones, I did. Those damn small ones are like gremlins spreading all over my face. It's not allergy, I know that. So, like after 2 or so months of using vinegar, I started to just use water. I won't explain how I decided to go to vinegar, and then how I figured out water, but after I did water, I did not break out with small pimples. Also, not even with BIG ONES. However, recently, because I ate pizza three days on a row, which crosses my "line," I broke out, with two big ones and like 3 small ones. Now, they're gone. DIET definitely is a strong factor on me. However, after that, I got no breakouts. It's been a week or two of no breakouts.

HOWEVER, RED MARKS ARE NOW THE PROBLEMS!

Honestly, I haven't used salycilic acid, but I recommend it to be used as spot treatment only, and just the big ones.

But you know what, it's better to not use any medications at all. Just start with vinegar. Use it for a month or two. Read the whole thread called "OMG...something something" on the red marks section of this forum. It has a lot of infos about vinegars and testimonies. I read the whole 30+ pages, which took me like an hour or two. Great stuff.

Alright, Good luck Calavera!

[jan carlo]

everyone has theories of why acne forms and what ways to reduce it. Try it if you want... don't try it if you don't believe it will work. It's all up to you. No one's forcing anyone to try anything. Message boards are free for people to post their opinions, suggestions, questions, concerns, whatever, to improve acne. There's really no need to respond especially to debunk someone's theory when they themself haven't even tried it. who knows... every person's post of a "regimen" (including this entire site) may just work for one of you. some work for others some don't.

I myself have personally stopped using anything but Eucerin Pore Purifying Foaming Cleanser once every couple days. I chose this particular cleanser because it only has like what? 5 ingredients? less chance of irritation. This still dried me out so i'm using it maybe once every 3 days or so. That's the only thing I apply on my face. I used to use moisturizer with face wash everyday but now i'm reducing it to the bare minimum. Give it at least 4 weeks (seems ideal, no?) to see results before you change your personal regimen.

So, what's your status now bananas? If anything dries you out, I recommend you to get rid of it, or use it only once a week for exfoliation which would help on red marks.

[jan carlo]

I have  a question. I'm doing the Sacylic Acid only. What could subsitude with that? SA is gentle than BP.

You sent me a PM, and I replied to it. Check your PM.

[ballaballa]

Then get out of here. Dude, I wouldn't know even know you and there would be no trouble if you didn't post crap, eminem-wannabe. That's my pic a a few years back, and since I don't have a digital camera, then I can't update it.

xxGoody317xx = Own3d

[jan carlo]

Um... claud, I'll post my reply to your PM here too so that people may get some knowledge and stuff from it. You wouldn't mind right? Well, here it is:

From me, to claud:

"No, it's ok, it's not a long post. If you want a looong post, read my first post on my thread. You know what I think? Wait, before I say something, read this first. It's from my first post:

"Edit: 1/31/05 DISCOVERY: Alright, I have discovered something from experience, observation, collection of data, forums, people, etc. Wonder why you inherit acne form your parents? Well, no, you don't inherit acne from parents, but rather, their skin type. Acne is not inherited. No one in this world has a skin that is totally immune to acne, and no, not even the clear people you see today. Why so? It is because their skin type is one that is very strong from acquiring acne. Many of us who have acne are fated to have them because our skin is not strong enough, therefore, a little disturbance into our skin, such as hormonal changes, diet, and etc that alters our skin will make us breakout. This is why DIET very much affects acne. Well, why is it that even though you eat a box of chocolate and still not breakout while everything else makes you break out? Well, everyone has some kind of line, which depends on the strength of their digestive system, that they cannot cross. What I mean is that everyone can eat chocolate, sweets, etc, just as long as they don't cross that line because once you cross that line, then that's when what you eat affects your acne. The thing is: EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT LINES. This is why some people believe that diet does not affect acne at all. It is because they haven't crossed that line yet, which is maybe because of the effectiveness of their digestive system or etc. If you don't believe this, how about you try eating a room full of chocolates, that would for sure cross anyone's line."

Does or did your parents had acne like yours when they were your age or a teenager? The thing I formed up above isn't really like proven proven thing, but that's my theory from observations, a bit of research and etc. So, the pills helped clear you? And that DIET definitely affects you? And that now that you don't have the pills anymore, ACNE keeps on coming back. You know, I think that it's not that you have ruined your skin from medications, but you were born with a skin type that's very very prone to acne. I mean, there are a lot of worser cases, but the fact that your birth control pills (which are related to hormone changes), are the only ones that clear you up totally, it's your hormones. From the information you gave me, medications will partially help, but not totally help you. It's your hormones that you need to balance. What time do you usually sleep? Do you eat regularly and healthily? Follow these stuff. I have collected a lot of myths, tips, and advices, have tried many of them, and here are the ones that are perfect:

-First of all, many people have acne and still has acne is because of the irritation and damage medications bring. However, in your case, it's not based on the information you gave me. In your case, you skin type is one that is prone to acne that little imbalances and etc to your metabolism, hormones, or anythign that affects your glands (ie, DIET and etc), promotes acne

Try these stuff that I think would help with the diet:
-Try Liver Flushing. Look for it around here. There's a complete FAQ regarding that. That would without doubt, help you up.
-I believe that late sleep does not affect acne, but stress does. Prevent stress. Don't do unnecessary stuff.
-The water only 2 hour before and after eating is great. You gotta try that
-Green Tea... maybe. Not sure if it would help though.
-At the same time, use vinegar as a cleanser. (it will help prevent whiteheads and cysts, but not the solid red ones)

ULTIMATE CURE: Accutane.

That's all I can say really. I'm not an expert or anything.

I did my best, and I hope that helped a lot.
Some are unbelievable, but try it. It may help you. Try them for a few weeks, and after a month or two and you see no changes, trash them. A month is not enough.

Patience girl is the key. Don't touch your face or even be irritated by it. Patience, and that's all that matters. Without it, you'll be putting crap all over your face again.

Alright, Good Luck. Hope you improve fast."

[jan carlo]

Um... in the previous posts, I may look like I've been talking to myself, but there's this one person posting crap. It looks like he got suspended or something because his messages disappeared.

Alright, now back to the topic.

EDIT: Goody317, maybe instead of posting crap here, maybe you could just read posts and maybe learn something. Lol, now that you have voice, all you can do is read, therefore, I recommend you to read these stuff. Maybe it would help you.

[animegirle]

Everyone in this thread who are launching personal attacks needs to stop. It is fine to disagree with someone's method or acne cure, but fighting and derogatory marks will not be tolerated on this site.

Thank you

[jan carlo]

animegirle, thank you. Finally, security came.

Now that the disruptors are gone, we can all come back to topic.

[sinashgh]

Thank god idiots are gone!

[p_p_pi]

i posted this on another thread but no one seems to be answering, so let me try my luck here.
I have been doing a modified version of jan_carlo's method for 1 week now, I washed my face every other day, sometimes water only, sometimes with soap. And I didnot use vinegar at all.
I had oily skin before my first acne breakout, which is aout 4 months ago. And i am very surprised that after 1 week of stop using bp (i have been using it for a little more than a month), my skin is still peeling and i cannot feel my face produce as much oil as it did before. It has cause me to break out more (but i understand this is going to take a few weeks to see result).
anyway, i have a layer of dead skin on my forehead and cheeks and they are really visible because they are darker and scrambled, and i just cannot get rid of them if i wash gentlely. also, i have tons of "whiteheads" on my chin. i quoted whiteheads because they are not breaking out, but you can just see some whitish stuff sticking out of my skin. What are they? Have u guys experienced this? How do you get rid of them and the dead skin without too much irritation?
thanks in advance.

btw...i am 25 year old asian male if that's helpful.

[jan carlo]

Red Marks

Red Marks are "scars." Not like a scar scar where your skin gets a hole, but it's something acne leaves behind. There's no overnight solution into removing them. Actually, the only way to remove them is peel, and etc. Other ways include bleaching them using hydroquinone or licorice or vitamin C. The safest and most effective method however is TIME. It's better to let them be instead of using all these products and peels which would damage your skin anyhow.

Usually, it takes around 6 to 8 months for those suckers to disappear. Some lucky ones gets theirs disappeared for just like a month or two (i don't know how that's possible, but maybe, they're constantly shedding their skin, like a snake. I mean really, it takes a lot of weeks for a full cycle of skin.)

If they really bother you, use concealers, but only as on the spot treatment, and nothing else. Concealers increase your risk of breaking out, but if you use it as spot treatment, then I think it's safe.

Also, I'm not sure if red marks are dead skin, but they're pigmentation formed by melanin or I think melanin is the pigmentation. They form up on the process of skin repair. So, using hydroquinone, which is slows down the production of melanin, would prevent red marks from getting redder.

Ya, I think they're not dead skin, but rather, melanin production because black people get like black marks instead of red ones, and white people get red ones along with asians, but sometimes, asians get really brown ones. So, they're pigments, because if they're dead skin cells, then we'd all have the same color (ie: black) of marks.

[jan carlo]

i posted this on another thread but no one seems to be answering, so let me try my luck here.
I have been doing a modified version of jan_carlo's method for 1 week now, I washed my face every other day, sometimes water only, sometimes with soap. And I didnot use vinegar at all.
I had oily skin before my first acne breakout, which is aout 4 months ago. And i am very surprised that after 1 week of stop using bp (i have been using it for a little more than a month), my skin is still peeling and i cannot feel my face produce as much oil as it did before. It has cause me to break out more (but i understand this is going to take a few weeks to see result).
anyway, i have a layer of dead skin on my forehead and cheeks and they are really visible because they are darker and scrambled, and i just cannot get rid of them if i wash gentlely. also, i have tons of "whiteheads" on my chin. i quoted whiteheads because they are not breaking out, but you can just see some whitish stuff sticking out of my skin. What are they? Have u guys experienced this? How do you get rid of them and the dead skin without too much irritation?
thanks in advance.

btw...i am 25 year old asian male if that's helpful.

You know what, I had the same experience as you. After using BP, my skin does not produce oil at all, even when I exercise. I believe it has damaged my glands. It has made my skin dry even by just using water. It has been 6 or so months since I've used BP and my skin is still dry. Do you use moisturizers? I believe moisturizers suppress the oil even more because it trains your glands to produce less. But I need to know too, do you use moisturizers regularly?

If you have used a "transition product" like what I said on this thread, then you probably won't get as much breakouts. Vinegar isn't really that harsh and it's like water, except with acetic acid. It will help you prevent your breakouts, and most importantly, those white stuff? I don't know what the hell are those, but they're most likely to be whiteheads so try vinegar on those because Vinegar is great on sucking those white stuff out. Vinegar is like a light, and the moth are those white stuff; the moth gets lured by the light, not knowing that it's committing suicide.

Good Luck!