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Posted 07 November 2007 - 07:38 PM

I just try and like it but it make my skin all irritated for a few days, I bought the needling machine from MYTCAPEEL.COM

I prefer the TCA cross method, after one application I saw 40% results on my scars. I buy it from EZPEEL.NET there are also great in answering emails and questions. They have a new peptide serum does anybody has try it yet?

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Posted 08 November 2007 - 03:44 AM

QUOTE(macoforyou @ Nov 7 2007, 07:38 PM) View Post
I just try and like it but it make my skin all irritated for a few days, I bought the needling machine from MYTCAPEEL.COM

I prefer the TCA cross method, after one application I saw 40% results on my scars. I buy it from EZPEEL.NET there are also great in answering emails and questions. They have a new peptide serum does anybody has try it yet?

Maco


no one here will buy from your site..mytcapeel.com sell shit.. like you. fucking spammer



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Posted 11 November 2007 - 06:02 PM

DOes anybody knows of anyone who does skin needling using a tattoo gun in SIngapore?

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 11:00 AM

I have been using the clearskin 0.75 home use skin and scalp roller for a few weeks. Of course it takes months to see results. But my skin already looks better ( not the scars, that take months of course).

I use 302 drops only after I roll. I know that there has been comments about 302's claims regarding it's effectivness on acne scars in the past. But I must say that these drops really do make your overall non-scarred skin look much better. Much more so than any of the other topicals I have used in the past. And I have used them all, beleive me.

302 is adament that chemical peels, and the home versions of the same, are damaging in the final anyalasis to the skin becuse these procedures, done with chemicals, thin out the skin and make the scars harder to treat. I was doubtful of this clam becuase it went against all of the prevaiing wisdom. But whatever you beleive the fact is that the 302 drops have been the best topical I have ever used. For one, they took away all of the uneven skin tone I have always been cursed with. It's good for any lines and wrinkles. as for acne scars, the jury is out. But I am hoping in conjunction with the skin and scalp roller it will help. James

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 06:30 PM

Hello,
I have a few questions. First off, does anyone know where I can get this done in NC or TN? Also, how are the results from doing it yourself? What supplies would I need and any instructions?
Thanks,
Jamie

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE(fzappa @ Dec 9 2007, 11:00 AM) View Post
I have been using the clearskin 0.75 home use skin and scalp roller for a few weeks. Of course it takes months to see results. But my skin already looks better ( not the scars, that take months of course).

I use 302 drops only after I roll. I know that there has been comments about 302's claims regarding it's effectivness on acne scars in the past. But I must say that these drops really do make your overall non-scarred skin look much better. Much more so than any of the other topicals I have used in the past. And I have used them all, beleive me.

302 is adament that chemical peels, and the home versions of the same, are damaging in the final anyalasis to the skin becuse these procedures, done with chemicals, thin out the skin and make the scars harder to treat. I was doubtful of this clam becuase it went against all of the prevaiing wisdom. But whatever you beleive the fact is that the 302 drops have been the best topical I have ever used. For one, they took away all of the uneven skin tone I have always been cursed with. It's good for any lines and wrinkles. as for acne scars, the jury is out. But I am hoping in conjunction with the skin and scalp roller it will help. James



Fzappa what are the 302 drops - I've not heard of them?

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 10:42 PM

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 02:11 AM

bump

I just did needling for a second time but don't really see anything but i'm planning on getting fraxel soon.

Just curious if this would have any effect on the first three at all???

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 03:57 AM

QUOTE(tgan3 @ Nov 12 2007, 12:02 AM) View Post
DOes anybody knows of anyone who does skin needling using a tattoo gun in SIngapore?


Don't think anyone in Sg will do it for you. but maybe you can try Sloane clinic... they do dermaroller treatment. 6 sessions for S$1,750. I am asking them some questions before I do it though, mainly to make sure that it's good enough.

Like all treatments in Singapore, I suspect this might be too mild to be effective...

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 02:59 PM

Hmm, does anyone know of doctors / perm. make-up artists who dermaroll in California (More specifically, Southern California)?

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 10:03 AM

Well, I'm on my 3rd DermaRoller session (in about 3 months) and I've spent close to $1500 including peptides (NeoCutis PSP and Mitochondria Nutmeg (Matrixyl Hyaluronic Acid)). The doc used a 1.5mm needle and was very aggressive with it. So far, I noticed, that my skin improves 1-3 weeks after each session and then the improvements subsides. The initial improvements are about 30% due to regeneration and tightening of the skin. But this will go away after 3 weeks to about 0-10% improvement. Perhaps I should wait another month to make a better judgement, but let me tell you, I've taken close to 100 pictures between 2nd and 3rd session (taken 40 days in between), and most of the time I honestly can't tell the difference which was before or after - it all depends on the lighting and angle which the picture was taken. Still there is one or two picture I think my skin tone improved about 5-10%. But nothing definitive and nothing major. Though people have said my overall complexion has improved. I don't know how much, if any, the after procedure products contributed.

If you have alot of deep crater scars like I have, don't expect much improvements with DermaRoller. But interestingly, the doc used a single thin needle and poked around one my larger scar on my nose and it has improved about ~25% permanently. It has softened it up and filled in about 25%. I think this method resembles a subcision or something.

Before I began my needling, the doc told me that I'd need 6 sessions to achieve 50% improvement I so much desired. But after 1/2 way through, I'm kind of disappointed with the progress. At this pace, I don't think my skin will ever improve to my goal. I'm guessing at most 6 sessions will improve my skin about 10-15% because I'm seeing like 0-10% now after my 3rd session. So given the cost, I don't think I will do another 3 sessions. My skin needs alot more aggressive treatment to get rid of all the scars, or at least make them look more tolerable. So now I will wait about 6 months before deciding on either dermabrasion or laser.

To be fair, I think needling has its uses (probably tones/tightens your skin and get rid of very small scars) as I see some success stories here. But for me, I don't think it is a very effective method when it comes to many deep acne scars. The theory looks very promising, but the results leaves me with little to be desired. But then again, I've only done 3 sessions in 3 months. Perhaps collagen rebuilding will continue for the next several months, but I highly doubt that it will improve my scars anymore noticeable than it is now. In fact, I think that what little collagen generated to fill the scars will most likely breakdown overtime. Sigh.....


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Posted 28 January 2008 - 10:20 AM



i think you must wait..
are you dermarolling 1 time a month? the general protocol say 1 session in two months.


where your doc use the single needle, did appear a scab the following days?

hi



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Posted 28 January 2008 - 11:20 AM

QUOTE (fzappa @ Dec 9 2007, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
302 drops have been the best topical I have ever used....as for acne scars, the jury is out.


Yeah, there was a lot of hype around here when the 302 drops first hit the market. This initial buzz quickly subsided when people began realizing that the drops don't do anything. I myself used the drops as well. I used them for months and they never did anything. Then I used them again after a needling session (like dermarolling) and they were still ineffective.

In my opinion, 302 drops are quite possibly one of the biggest scams in the topical scar treatment product lineup out there.

The website used to show pictures of a woman with severe sunken scars in the before picture and then with absolutely perfect skin in the after picture. I never had any change to even the smallest of my scars.

I am just warning you to be very very wary of this product.

Cheers

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE (ghet @ Jan 28 2008, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think you must wait..
are you dermarolling 1 time a month? the general protocol say 1 session in two months.


where your doc use the single needle, did appear a scab the following days?

hi



Yes, the doc said best result is once every month. And yes, there was scabbing the following day for the single needle.

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 07:56 AM

QUOTE (claisen @ Jan 28 2008, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ghet @ Jan 28 2008, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think you must wait..
are you dermarolling 1 time a month? the general protocol say 1 session in two months.


where your doc use the single needle, did appear a scab the following days?

hi



Yes, the doc said best result is once every month. And yes, there was scabbing the following day for the single needle.



ok, so what ciro say about needling seem to be the right..if you scab you will obtain more improvments.






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Posted 27 April 2008 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE (caesar2 @ Dec 9 2007, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (fzappa @ Dec 9 2007, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been using the clearskin 0.75 home use skin and scalp roller for a few weeks. Of course it takes months to see results. But my skin already looks better ( not the scars, that take months of course).

I use 302 drops only after I roll. I know that there has been comments about 302's claims regarding it's effectivness on acne scars in the past. But I must say that these drops really do make your overall non-scarred skin look much better. Much more so than any of the other topicals I have used in the past. And I have used them all, beleive me.

302 is adament that chemical peels, and the home versions of the same, are damaging in the final anyalasis to the skin becuse these procedures, done with chemicals, thin out the skin and make the scars harder to treat. I was doubtful of this clam becuase it went against all of the prevaiing wisdom. But whatever you beleive the fact is that the 302 drops have been the best topical I have ever used. For one, they took away all of the uneven skin tone I have always been cursed with. It's good for any lines and wrinkles. as for acne scars, the jury is out. But I am hoping in conjunction with the skin and scalp roller it will help. James




Fzappa what are the 302 drops - I've not heard of them?

Caesar2



Hi,
I've been using the clearskincare 0.75mm (96 pin) roller for about 18 months (for the last 6 months I just do a once a week (or once a fortnight maintenence treatment), I'm really happy with my results. I've been using mine with their Copper Peptide Serum, it's great stuff. I use it twice daily after cleansing with their glycolic gel cleanser. It seems to control my occaisional breakouts as well as continuing to treat my scarring and being a great ageing treatment. They also have a really good glycolic microdermabrasion cream, this has been integral in controlling breakouts.

Anyway, here's a link - http://stores.ebay.com.au/Clearskincare-acne-scar-hair-loss


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Posted 27 April 2008 - 08:12 PM

QUOTE (fang @ Apr 27 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (caesar2 @ Dec 9 2007, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (fzappa @ Dec 9 2007, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been using the clearskin 0.75 home use skin and scalp roller for a few weeks. Of course it takes months to see results. But my skin already looks better ( not the scars, that take months of course).

I use 302 drops only after I roll. I know that there has been comments about 302's claims regarding it's effectivness on acne scars in the past. But I must say that these drops really do make your overall non-scarred skin look much better. Much more so than any of the other topicals I have used in the past. And I have used them all, beleive me.

302 is adament that chemical peels, and the home versions of the same, are damaging in the final anyalasis to the skin becuse these procedures, done with chemicals, thin out the skin and make the scars harder to treat. I was doubtful of this clam becuase it went against all of the prevaiing wisdom. But whatever you beleive the fact is that the 302 drops have been the best topical I have ever used. For one, they took away all of the uneven skin tone I have always been cursed with. It's good for any lines and wrinkles. as for acne scars, the jury is out. But I am hoping in conjunction with the skin and scalp roller it will help. James




Fzappa what are the 302 drops - I've not heard of them?

Caesar2



Hi,
I've been using the clearskincare 0.75mm (96 pin) roller for about 18 months (for the last 6 months I just do a once a week (or once a fortnight maintenence treatment), I'm really happy with my results. I've been using mine with their Copper Peptide Serum, it's great stuff. I use it twice daily after cleansing with their glycolic gel cleanser. It seems to control my occaisional breakouts as well as continuing to treat my scarring and being a great ageing treatment. They also have a really good glycolic microdermabrasion cream, this has been integral in controlling breakouts.

Anyway, here's a link - http://stores.ebay.com.au/Clearskincare-acne-scar-hair-loss

Fang, you could at least be a little more discrete when posting your spam.

Quoting an old thread and posting something that has nothing to do with the quoted posts. All just to post the link to your ebay store.

As some users have said before, stop spamming.

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 11:27 PM

I AM NEW ON THIS SITE, AND HAVE BEEN READING ALONG,
I HAD BAD ACNE IN MY EARLY 20'S. STARTED OFF USING THE STIVIA CREAMS IN DIFFERENT STRENGHS TO GET RID OF THE RED SPOT MY ACNE LEFT AFTER THEY HAD GONE DOWN- MIND YOU I NEVER SQUEEZED THEM.
THEN AFTER A WHILE I LOOKED INTO SKIN NEEDLING AS THE DOCTOR I WAS SEEING HERE IN SYDNEY WAS DOING IT.

THE FIRST TIME I HAD IT DONE, IT WAS AMAZING THE IMPROVEMENT.
SINCE THEN I HAVE HAD IT DONE BOUT 4 TIMES.
NOW I FEEL LIKE I HAVE VERY SIMILAR SIDE AFFECTS TO SOMEONE ELSE THAT HAS WRITTEN ON THIS SITE.
ALTHOUGH MY PITTING HAS INPROVED, I HAVE BEEN LEFT WITH A LOT OF ROLLING SCARRS FROM THE NEEDLING, NOT SURE IF THE LAST TIME I GOT IT DONE, THE DURATION WAS TOO LONG, MAYBE TOO AGGRESSIVE FOR MY SKIN.
ALSO HAVE A LOT OF HTPERPIGMENTATION.
I JUST WISH I DIN'T GO BACK THAT LAST TIME.
IN THE MORNING MY SKIN LOOKS BETTER AS SOMEONE ELSE WROTE, BY NIGHT AND IN A CERTAIN LIGHT, LIKE IN MY CAR REAR VISION MIRROR, IT LOOKS REALLY BAD.
OF A NUIGHT THOUGH, IT LOOKS GREAT!


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Posted 30 April 2008 - 11:53 PM

[quote name='insecuritey' date='May 5 2007, 04:13 PM' post='1839893']
Its really sad how this same time last year ('06)... this board was majorly popular
and now... no one's here on this board reading/responding...
I wonder, what the hell could have possibly come out thats better than needling??????

that is beyond me

trust me, i am a connoisseur when it comes to the pain, angst & the almost all the experience in the world when it comes to acne & acne scars.

back to needling
i went back to Frank at Transitions for my third needling session. ofcourse no one at work knows why i took time off from work, nor do they need to. (except my close friends)

it was almost a 7 hour round trip, but worth every minute.
my dad was like "why did you needle again, i thought ur scars were gone"
i cant wait to heal & evaluate my scars!
my dad oughtta know i am a perfectionist. so if i can achieve 99% improvement. why not??

its not like fraxel where your skin looks raw 12 calendar months after getting it done

Frank is officially a part of my life, whether he likes it or not.
he's totally invited to my wedding, or any major celebration of that sort.
that is the impact he's had. plus, it doesnt hurt that he's genuinely a nice guy, smart, & talented. He's not cold blooded like 99% money hungry crook doctors.

why doesnt anyone notice how cruel doctors are, all you have to do is tune in on those stupid plastic surgery shows.... doesnt anyone notice that plastic surgeons are butchers with a liscense to tell you more is wrong with you than meets the eye??? woman goes in for a face lift... and is told she needs 12 procedures. WTF

so yes = needling is TRUE micro wounds to the skin which TRULY accelerates proper healing, NOT fraxel that sells itself on that principle. i'd know. my multimillionare boss burns her daughters face with fraxel, she's yet to achieve results opposed to raw skin.

HI I'M FROM SYDNEY,
LOVE YOUR ATTITUDE! HAVE HAD NEEDLING MYSELF 4 TIMES, AND SO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO FEL HORRIBLE BOUT YOUR SKIN LOOKING BAD!

THE 4TH TIME I HAD IT DONE, I THINK SHE WENT A LITTLE TO HARD!
MY SKIN LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN STILL SEE THE ROLLING SCARRS,

DID THIS HAPPEN TO YOU AT ALL

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Posted 10 May 2008 - 10:16 AM

HI I'M FROM SYDNEY,
LOVE YOUR ATTITUDE! HAVE HAD NEEDLING MYSELF 4 TIMES, AND SO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO FEL HORRIBLE BOUT YOUR SKIN LOOKING BAD!

THE 4TH TIME I HAD IT DONE, I THINK SHE WENT A LITTLE TO HARD!
MY SKIN LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN STILL SEE THE ROLLING SCARRS,

DID THIS HAPPEN TO YOU AT ALL

Hey there Lee
Just in luck b/c I havent been on here in 'least 8 mons...
Hmmm, the impression I get is that
your skin did NOT inflame, b/c she went too rough???
...
I distinctly remember that after needling
Immediately -- I get SO swollen, my skin looks like I have not one acne scar
HOWEVER, in days time -- when the skin starts to heal itself, the rolling (etc) scars do reappear
and when they finally have settled, they have a filled-in appearance,
b/c the needling has had its effect. which is permanent (2-3 + wks later)

hope that helped
boy I really need to see Frank, why'd I have to move 1100 miles from him
gahh!!





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