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#21 bryan

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:29 AM

Ok, so what are the arguments AGAINST this entire thread?

You and Bryan seem pretty sure that anti-androgens will solve oily skin issues for a lot of people. So why not we all (males and females) just take saw palmetto and call it a day?


Actually, I'm also a poster on a completely different hair-loss forum, and one of my buddies over there was raving to me about how well the oral spiro he uses to reduce sebum works, and I promised him that I'd say something about it over here on acne.org. I have absolutely no idea how well something like saw palmetto would work for this purpose.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 05:55 PM


If you would like the effects without the feminization... take a NON-ESTROGENIC anti-androgen such as

Flutamide (prescription)

Natural over the counter (recommended dosage for males 300mg-1000mg a day).
Saw palmetto
Stinging nettle
Pygeum
Pumpkin seed oil


Ok, so what are the arguments AGAINST this entire thread?

You and Bryan seem pretty sure that anti-androgens will solve oily skin issues for a lot of people. So why not we all (males and females) just take saw palmetto and call it a day?

/devil's advocate


Because while this thread is very informative and makes plenty of good points, much of this is speculation and anecdotal reports/studies. There has been very few clinical, large scale, and long term studies done on anti-androgens, especially natural/herbal supplements. That's the reason why if you look up saw palmetto or stinging nettle, nearly every claim it makes concerning its effects begins with "It may..." or "Studies show a correlation with..." or "It is believed to work by...."

There's so much that goes into the equation when it comes to your hormone levels and what effect they have on you that modern medicine has yet to fully understand how some of the processes work. If oily skin or hair loss was so easily fixed by modifying perceived hormonal imbalances, then these sort of problems (hair loss and complexion issues) would have been solved and documented as such. While spiro does work for women, there's not much out there about men taking it.

If anti-androgens consistently reduced oily skin or cured hair loss with few side effects, pharmacuetical companies would be the first ones to let us know because that would mean massive profits for them. What we are doing on this thread is self-diagnosing issues without a biology/medical degree (I assume, I could be incorrect and if anyone does please correct me). And while I don't either, I do understand that not every bodily mechanism follows the same sort of linear cause and effect that we are giving it. Any time you attempt to change your hormone levels without medical supervision, you take a gamble. You might have good results, and you might not. I'd love to see some large scale studies that prove good results without dangerous side effects.

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Regardless, fascinating information here and definetly some ideas/techniques that should be researched and looked at more. This thread has given me quite a few questions for my dermatologist the next time I see him LOL I've got lots of new ammo now and it's going to be one heck of a conversation Haha

Edited by CBIOT13, 17 October 2012 - 06:02 PM.

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Here's A Few Acne.org Threads Of Mine You May Find Useful/Interesting (updated 7/25/13)

-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:57 PM

hi to all acne.org users i am from chile and i have a particular question about accutane, recently i start a treatment just for my oily skin with 10 mg per week, and i just take 1 pill, but i am starting to get headaches and dizzines, my question is, at 10 mg dose per week can i get some problems to my health, or is just something common , sorry about my grammar!!

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 02:43 PM

Hi oilskinchile, click on this link below and it will take you to a thread that explains some frequently asked questions about Accutane. http://www.acne.org/...accutane-users/

If you have more questions or don't feel well, you should check with your doctor

Edited by CBIOT13, 18 October 2012 - 02:55 PM.

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Here's A Few Acne.org Threads Of Mine You May Find Useful/Interesting (updated 7/25/13)

-- DIY Apple Cider Vinegar Toner http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/324606-flakydryoily-skin-try-this/

-- How to Ice Inflammed or Picked at Cysts http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327532-acne-redness-removal-trick/

-- Milk of Magnesia Uses http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/329385-ways-to-use-milk-of-magnesia-for-oily-skin/

Other Threads Worth Looking At

-- Oily Skin Research Thread: This shows some of our previous efforts and explains the mechanisms behind oily skin.

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/326345-oily-skin-research/

-- My failed but enlightening experiment going the "less is more" route, aka "The Caveman Routine"

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/327898-a-minimalist-approach-for-oily-skin/

 

 

 


#25 piwitron

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 12:52 AM


If you would like the effects without the feminization... take a NON-ESTROGENIC anti-androgen such as

Flutamide (prescription)

Natural over the counter (recommended dosage for males 300mg-1000mg a day).
Saw palmetto
Stinging nettle
Pygeum
Pumpkin seed oil


Ok, so what are the arguments AGAINST this entire thread?

You and Bryan seem pretty sure that anti-androgens will solve oily skin issues for a lot of people. So why not we all (males and females) just take saw palmetto and call it a day?

/devil's advocate


On my own experience Saw Palmetto pills taken every goddamn day for a month, increasing the mg input did NOTHING for me.

I say it's BS.

#26 brian1987

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 11:30 PM

http://www.aknicare.co.uk/science.php
anyone tried this before? I''ve just ordered the cream! hopefully it works in reducing my sebum production!