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#21 Spotthedifference

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:18 AM

My face isn't sore any more. It feels better to the touch, not sure it's looking any better though.

Edited by Spotthedifference, 05 November 2012 - 04:26 AM.


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Posted 26 August 2012 - 02:33 PM

I've got a few tiny little white heads on my cheeks and hair line since I've not been picking at my skin. Turns out most of my acne is the non inflamed kind when left to it's own devices, which doesn't look quite as bad as the big red lumps I'd inflict on it from broken skin.

I've put some lemon juice on my hyperpigmentation today. It seems to have gone down a little bit.

Edited by Spotthedifference, 05 November 2012 - 04:25 AM.


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Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:54 AM

Ok, so I've realized a few things since my last update. I went about a week or so without doing anything to my skin to see what it's like in it's natural state.

Here are some things which make the acne worse:

Shea butter. It's a wonderful substance that smells like forests and makes your skin glow, but it's just too heavy for my face, and it gave me lots of clogged pores. It's a fantastic lip balm and great for sore cracked heals though.

Coconut oil. It makes my hair glisten, gets rid of my mum's keratosis pilaris on the back of her arms, my dog loves to eat the stuff, it's completley natural (like the shea butter), a great lipbalm, grew back my eyebrows when they got over waxed and plucked, gave me very long strong eyelashes, it's a fantastic body moisturizer and basically useful for more things than I can mention. But it clogs up my pores something terrible when left on for longer than a few minutes. It does help active spots, but it spreads really easily, so sleeping in it isn't a good idea for me.

Topical green tea. It soothes the skin well, but it forms like a film over the skin which doesn't let my pores breathe if I try to leave it on for longer than half an hour.

Topical lemon juice. The same problem as the green tea. This is easily remedied by only leaving it on for a short while and washing it off of course.

Holika and Holika Petite BB clearing cream. As much as this is fantastic coverage, natural looking makeup, it really does sink right into your face - and the pores on my cheeks don't like it. At. All.

Hormones. I really can be doing the same thing with my skin and it'll be amazing or horrible depending on what time of the month it is.

Dry skin. My skin has a few moments of getting really oily just lately, something which has never happened before. I think the oil is just making it's way to the surface now whereas it was getting stuck in the pores before.

Picking. It spreads the bacteria, makes my face sore and makes everything look ten times worse. I just can't stand having visable white heads!

Artificial chemicals. I didn't realize how red they made my skin until I stopped using them. It's a lot less sensitive now that I've stopped.

Over loading on treatments. I never gave my poor skin a rest before.

Hair products. If I let my hair touch my face when it's dripping with product then it's break out time. I'm still using the products, but keeping them off my face.

Wearing makeup during physical activities. Yeah, this one's a no brainer I guess.

Here are some things that have helped make it better:

Drinking green tea. Pure, unrefined, just on it's own green tea. Man is it gorgeous and good for you. I can't even tell you how many things this has helped with, including acne inflamation.

Going long periods of time without makeup. Yes, this one definitley sucks, but it's helped.

Being outside. A couple of minutes sun exposure has helped, but I'm not risking being outside too long without some SPF. I'm pale as anything and I burn like a lobster. Skin cancer - no thankyou.

Fruit and vegetables. I used to hate them, but now I get sulky if I've not had any in a while. Helping out your over all health can never be a bad thing.

Drinking lots of water. I drink A LOT during the day, especially an hour or so before bed. It helps a lot with skin hydration.

Keeping my hands clean. I do this anyway, but I've been making an effort to touch my face only with clean hands. It doesn't make a *huge* difference to be honest, but it doesn't hurt either.

Exfoliating often. I was kind of inconsistent with my exfoliating before - exfoliating infrequently and roughly. If I use sugar to exfoliate every three days or so with moderate pressure I get the best results.

Zinc. Oh, what a wonderful mineral. It's increased my skin healing times by about half, and I'm adjusting to it rapidly.

Honey, cinnamon and lemon juice masks. I use a combination of these different things depending on what I'm experiencing. All three things bring down inflammation after a picking episode.

Calcium Bentonite clay and apple cider vinegar masks. They really dry out actives and reduce clogs.

Sleeping with nothing on my face. As my mum says, 'your skin was made to heal itself'. I use over night treatments sparingly now, and let night time be my skin's chance to breathe.

Frequent warm then cold showers. Showers actually reduce the redness of my skin somewhat, not to mention significantly reducing the clogged pores on my back and chest. I did of course take showers before, but I need one pretty much every day at the moment, whereas in the past it's been every couple or three days.

Regular exercise. I go to the gym six times a week now for my health, but it seems to help with acne too, though I rarely build up a sweat (I work hard, but I've never sweated much).

A positive outlook. If I'm thinking less about my skin it seems to get a bit better. This may just be a placebo effect but hey, I'll take what I can get.

Things that haven't made a difference either way.

Dairy. I can drink milk and eat cheese all day or never, it doesn't change anything. Topical milk has helped with skin softness though.

Sugar. I ate So. Much. Sugar. not long ago at a party. My skin was no different the next day. I don't typically eat a lot of sugar anyway though.

Evening Primrose oil, agnus castus, Vitamin B complex, DIM plus, Vitamin C, Multi vitamin, Omega 3 fish oil. I take all of these for different reasons to my acne: they help with hormone regulation and immunity boosting, but they don't do much for my acne.

Edited by Spotthedifference, 05 November 2012 - 05:02 AM.


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Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:16 AM

My current regimen

Yes, another one. I'll settle down eventually, promise.

AM

Drink one/two cups of green tea.

Drink several cups of water (I don't count, I just drink as much as I can without adverse side effects).

Take Vitamin B complex, agnus castus, Evening Primrose Oil, Multi vitamin, Vitamin C, DIM plus, Omega 3 Fish Oil.

Splash face with warm/hot water. Lather up Peppermint soap bar (from 'New Dawn' shop on Ebay) on wet hands and rub all over face. Leave on for two minutes. Splash face with warm'hot water to remove the soap then splash face with cold water to close up the pores. Pat skin gently dry with a clean towel.

Apply a very very small amount of Bio Oil if the skin is feeling too dry.

PM

Spend an hour at the gym.

Have a shower. Exfoliate everywhere on the body to prevent clogged pores. Shave. Exfoliate again to ensure hairs grow back properly and don't get ingrown. Let warm water drum over acne affected areas. Rinse shaven areas with cold water to reduce inflamation from shaving.

Take zinc supplement during tea time.

Drink another cup of green tea.

Drink more water.

Splash face with warm/hot water. Lather up Peppermint soap bar (from 'New Dawn' shop on Ebay) on wet hands and rub all over face. Leave on for two minutes. Splash face with warm'hot water to remove the soap then splash face with cold water to close up the pores. Pat skin gently dry with a clean towel.

On Occasion

Twice a week - mix up calcium bentonite clay and apple cider vinegar using plastic utensils. Apply to face, leave on for an hour/an hour and a half/until dry. Take off with wet cotton wool balls. Apply a tiny amount of Bio Oil as a moisturizer. I do this in the PM after washing so that the minerals in the mask stay on my skin.

Every three days - Wet face with cold water. Dab wet finger tips into white sugar. Rub finger tips over the face with moderate pressure in circular motions to exfoliate. Wash off with cold water. Pat skin dry with clean towel. I do this in the PM so that my skin isn't then vunerable during the day.

Whenever I've picked at my skin - Mix together honey and cinnamon. Apply to affected areas. Leave on as long as possible (usually about an hour) then rinse off and pat skin dry with a clean towel. I do this either in the AM or PM.

When my face is dry - Use a pure honey mask. Leave on for as long as I feel like it. Rinse off. Pat skin dry with a clean towel.

When I get red marks - Apply neat lemon juice to the affected areas. Apply cinnamon powder over the top whilst still wet. Allow to sit for half an hour to a minute. I do this in the PM as lemon juice increases sun sensitivity.

When I have large, inflamed, open wound type lesions - Apply salt water. Leave on for 15 minutes then rinse. Pat skin dry with a towel. This one stings like a mother, but it really does sort out those weeping, horrible sore spots.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:07 PM

My skin is looking a lot better today. I think it's mostly because of my hormones (the moment mother nature came knocking my spots started shrinking, and have been doing so ever since) but my regimen seems to be helping too.

Right now I'm mostly dealing with dry flaking skin and red patches on the areas where spots have just healed, a few non angry actives (mostly on my left side) and a few left over clogged pores on both cheeks. There's also a random bright red active right in the middle of my forehead where I never usually get them, but next to my eyebrows is clear, as is my jaw, chin, inbetween my eyebrows, my nose, around my mouth and the rest of my forehead.

Honey and cinnamon is so lovely for taking the pain from the spots away and the soap is absolutley amazing. My skin doesn't feel stripped or oily after washing - just clean, and the peppermint has a lovely cooling effect on my skin whilst it's on. I think the PH and sebum balancing thing may be true as I've not had an oily episode since I started using it and my skin feels softer and firmer but more pliable, like I can push clogged pores right out whereas they were lodged in there before.

I reserve judegement on the zinc until I've had the entire 60 capsules (over a 60 day period). Something is speeding my skin healing times up though, and I think it may be that.

I've had no adverse reactions from coming off the chemicals so far.

Edited by Spotthedifference, 06 November 2012 - 05:08 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:54 AM

Nothing much to say today other than that my non acne affected skin is looking glowier, feels smoother and is all around nicer. The acne affected areas feel a little rough - I think it might be due to the dead skin coming off the healing wounds.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:34 AM

I think you look too far into the day-to-day with your experiments and observations.

Dairy. I can drink milk and eat cheese all day or never, it doesn't change anything. Topical milk has helped with skin softness though.

Sugar. I ate So. Much. Sugar. not long ago at a party. My skin was no different the next day. I don't typically eat a lot of sugar anyway though.


I don't think these statements are true, at least, I don't think you should write off these two as culprits just yet.

You should try two weeks off the extra carbs, sugar, and milk. If you're willing to stick with zinc for 60 pills, why wouldn't you try a diet of kale and fish with no dairy/wheat/processedfood for 10 days?

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:14 PM

I think you look too far into the day-to-day with your experiments and observations.

Dairy. I can drink milk and eat cheese all day or never, it doesn't change anything. Topical milk has helped with skin softness though.

Sugar. I ate So. Much. Sugar. not long ago at a party. My skin was no different the next day. I don't typically eat a lot of sugar anyway though.


I don't think these statements are true, at least, I don't think you should write off these two as culprits just yet.

You should try two weeks off the extra carbs, sugar, and milk. If you're willing to stick with zinc for 60 pills, why wouldn't you try a diet of kale and fish with no dairy/wheat/processedfood for 10 days?


Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you, a complete stranger over the internet, knew my skin and what causes my breakouts more than me.

I have had a LIFE TIME of being clear whilst eating dairy and wheat. Even when I started breaking out a year ago dairy and sugar have NEVER made my breakouts any worse. EVER. But clearly because there's been some inconclusive studies on some people that aren't me so all of my past experience is irrelevant.

And EXCUSE ME, *extra* carbs sugar and milk?! Processed food? Who do you think you are to make snap judgements? I have acne, so CLEARLY I eat too much of this stuff. I must stuff my face with rubbish all day then cry about why my skin is terrible. Obviously.

I'll have you know I have a damn healthy diet with little processed food and I exercise like a chipmunk on stimulants. I take insanely good care of myself because I have a few health problems which dictate a necessity to give myself every possible chance. So I admitted to liking my dairy. Dairy has NEVER caused me any problems. And the sugar? That was ONE DAY and a *very* special day at that. It's laughable that you'd accuse me of having a poor diet. Laughable because everybody I know calls me a health freak. If I eat so much terrible things then why am I so damn thin and why have my medical conditions improved so much?

I've *fainted* from eating too little carbs in the past. I had an actual problem with it. I still eat less than the average person my size.

It's against my beliefs to eat fish. I DO eat kale. I don't over do the dairy. Yes, I eat lots of wheat. I know for a fact I'm not intolerant. Processed foods? Short of the very rare slip up on special occasions I essentialy live off vegetables, water. green tea, fruits and white meat now.

And guess what? I still have acne.

So changing your diet worked for you. Please do not go about acting like it is the cure all miricale for everybody and everybody that has acne has a bad diet.

So kindly crash out of my thread the way you just crashed into it. Not that I expect you to have read this post, considering you completley disregarded the reasons that have been MEDICALLY CLARIFIED to cause my acne.

Oh, and the whole insulin resistance thing which you seem to be getting at with the sugar and the carbs? Not got a problem with it. It and PCOS don't always go hand in hand. Go ask my highly reguarded specialist OBYG if you don't believe me.

Just a tip, don't try to contradict people about themselves in the future.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:52 PM

I see a very strong amount of denial and defensiveness in your post. For sake of progression, I'm just going to ask you a few questions, and if you answer them, great. If not, I'm sorry to have ever said anything.

But to be fair, please know that I did read your entire thread.


- Exactly how many carbs are you taking in?
- Macronutrients?
- Micronutrients?
- Exact calorie intake for the day?


A medical examination is far from all that you need to diagnose an underlying health problem. If you consider acne to be normal, then that's great. I'm glad you can live with it more than I can.

Fact is, a medical researcher studying diet and health would likely be able to give you more information than any doctor, surgeon, or OBY

I'm 30 years old. Not sure how old you are, but i've been in the same situation. I've eaten wheat and cheese with no problems, until the acne began.



If you want to read this, go ahead. It may not be the solution to your problems, but I am, at heart, trying to help. If you believe I was making a sweeping judgement about you, I apologize.

http://www.acne.org/...cne-connection/

Cleanse with Nubian Heritage African black soap. Wet a towel with warm water, rub black soap on to the towel. Use towel in circular motions to rub the soap in to the face. Allow the soap to dry on the face before rinsing with hands and cold water. Pat face dry with towel.


I forgot to mention that this will likely aggravate your acne in the worst way.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 01:28 PM

And I detect a very self riteous, somewhat obsessive compulsiveness in your posts. Not to mention a self obsession since you seem to think if something worked for you it's definitley the cause of everybody elses problems too.

If you'd read my entire thread you'd know how old I am as well as that I don't use that cleansing method anymore. So get your facts straight before you put your patronizing hat on.

You are a 30 year old man. You're not qualified in teenage female hormones and PCOS like my doctors and you especially know nothing about me or the struggle I go through with my hormones. Well done for trying to play the age card though, considering age is definitley an indicator of experience, just as diet is clearly the only possible cause of acne. The world is entirely black and white like that you see.

I eat healthily and do not need to keep reinforcing that to some older man online. I have enough people in real life to waste my time on. If you saw me in real life you'd instantly know how healthy I am *because you can see it*. You can see it in my healthy immune system, incredibly low body fat percentage and visable muscle mass. I have an incredibly healthy life style and I don't need to prove that to you with exact calorie counting (be warned, that leads very easily to eating disorders. Obsessing ISN'T psychologically healthy).

Acne is 'normal' if you consider 'normal' to be a commonly occuring thing which happens to the majority of people. There are plenty of people my age with my mild acne where I live from a variety of life styles because it happens at our age in our area. Yes, your adult acne is different. But where I live? It's incredibly normal. Common in fact. And most of us grow out of it, just like my family did in their early/mid twenties.

You sound like you need to assert your beliefs everywhere to boost your self esteem, especially since you said you aren't able to live with acne well. Why not? Do you seriously think that a few blemishes on your face are enough to affect your actual life? Tell me, when you look in a mirror and you have a flaw - any flaw, not just acne - does it ruin your day a little? Do you feel like people look at you differently? Do you feel like you've let yourself down?

Because I sure as hell don't. I feel like, hey, it's still me. The people that matter care about me anyway. And a few blemishes won't stop me from making a brilliant impression, because I don't need to look perfect to do that. I know I take care of myself and I always put my best foot foward in this life. That's all that matters. Not some spots that will go away in a few years.

So thankyou, you've been useful in reminding me to stay happy with myself, lest I end up pestering teenage girls on the internet to start counting their calorie intake (you've no idea what a bad idea that is in a time when eating disorders are so prevelant).

So, I'll re-itterate - please leave my thread. I've considered your suggestions and found them irrelevant to me personally. Please stop wasting your time.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:55 PM

I know you commented on my Topic and disagreed.. But have you tried a full on 'acne' diet? Most of them make you keep away from dairy, high carbs and sugars... Idk but good luck to you. Posted Image

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:41 PM

Cheers dude. As I said, I already stay away from high carbs and sugars to manage my PCOS. I need dairy because I get easily defficient in the things that it usually contains. Awesome if it worked for you though, congratulations on that.

I'm on to a different course of treatment now. I went and saw the derm after a horrific picking episode and he's put me on antibiotics and given me Duac cream to try. It's working well enough so far but it's still early days. This log is pretty much irrelevant now anyway.