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[sasch12]

creeeature, on 01 May 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Hi Sasch12, it's been awhile - Have you gone back to the Naturopath more since you originally posted? I just got back from my third visit with the Naturopath. It has been an interesting journey. In my first visit, we decided to do the allergen elimination test, so no wheat, corn, rice, dairy for three weeks, and then I added one in one at a time. I think I saw a bit of a reaction from all of them, which is unfortunate, since I enjoy eating all of them.

On my second visit, we decided to do some blood tests including a finger-prick blood test for allergies. She also gave me fish oil, calcium-magnesium, ashwaganda (ayurvedic herb for stress), and various homeopathic things.. one for my liver, one for adrenals, etc.

The blood test is tremendously helpful! Anyone who goes to a Naturopath should do one, I think. It gives you a full, accurate picture of what's going on. It was pretty expensive since I don't have insurance, but I found it to be worth it so far. I have a slight iron deficiency, and a severely low vitamin D deficiency. Most of my hormones were pretty balanced. Through the allergy test I learned that while there aren't any foods that are red-flags that I should completely avoid, cheese and wheat came up as my biggest issues, so she recommended that I eliminate them completely.

One thing that I thought was unusual but interesting is that she tested different sound frequencies that resonated with my body, so I am supposed to listen to a particular frequency for like a minute every day for a few weeks. This is probably the most out-there concept to try to grasp, but I'm kind of out-there, hehe - so I'm going with it for now!

I'd be interested to hear what your progress has been now at this point! Hope things are well!

sasch12, on 13 February 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

creeeature, on 13 February 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

I am about to see a naturopath in the next two hours! I think it's a really good idea to get something personalized. I've had acne since age 12, and I turn 27 on Sunday. It was just in the last few months that I finally started doing more research into acne after just using BPO FOREVER. It just makes so much sense that acne depends on so many different factors. I abruptly stopped using BPO in August, and eventually I had the worst breakout ever, which also coincided with a lot of stressful things in my life. But now I'm finally taking steps with my diet, and using natural remedies and it seems to be making a difference already. I'm finally considering minerals and acidity vs base, etc. The naturopath I'm seeing soon had a free 15 min consult with me, and she said that it could depend a lot on food, so we're going to take a look at food intolerances, but it also seems like stress is a huge link, so we're going to look at my hormone levels.

I guess it would have made more sense for me to comment on this after my appointment- hopefully I will remember to check back here and I'll let you know how it went and if it's worth it.

Thanks for the response! I am excited to hear what suggestions the naturopath makes for you. I decided to go see one and my first visit is tomorrow afternoon. If you decided to start a log, feel free to send me the link. I started my own log under the nutrition section and plan to update with pictures and hopefully progress (going into this with a positive attitude). Feel free to stop by. Hoping for the best for both of us!

Creeeature, it sounds as if you're on the right path! We sure do have to jump through a lot of hopes don't we?

Like you, i did an allergy and an intolerance test and tested positive for dairy, wheat, eggs, oats and string beans. Everything else seems to be a safe food. I have cut out all those things for a couple of months and i'm not so sure if they have an effect on my acne as i am doing other nutritional stuff as well as topicals. I do miss eggs though and occasionally cheese so once my acne stabalizes, i'll test. I don't expect to be 100% clear and i refuse to live my life avoiding certain foods 100% (junk food being the exception) so we'll see how that goes. I followed up the 1st visit with a second with my naturopath and the supplements that i list in my sig are what i am currently taking. I have only recently added Quercetin to combat allergies in the air (keeping my fingers that this works as i have been really ill the past 2 weeks and have not been able to exercise). I may or may not pay for a third visit, especially if my acne improves and my doc has seen improvement in my a1c levels (re: prediabetes).

How is your acne these days? Hey, if a method works for you, go for it, no matter how weird it sounds. I think dairy and wheat cause lots of people issues especially since many of us eat it upwards of 3 times a day...no worries though, i found that after the first few weeks, i was able to abstain and not feel tempted - there are so many substitutes for dairy and wheat free options so......

Hoping to hear more about your progress

[dejaclairevoyant]

Seems like a crazy amount of money to spend for stuff you could do for yourself, but if you feel you can't, and you have the money, I don't see why not. It's important to note that most of us probably don't have that sort of money though.

The way I feel is; educate yourself. That naturopath is just a regular person who has educated themselves. You don't need to go to school to get an education. If you learn enough, eventually you will know as much as the naturopath does, and by then you will probably not need one anymore because you'll have already found your answers.

I know a few naturopaths and we are pretty much on the same page about everything. They don't seem to be aware of much that I haven't learned on my own about food and herbs and the body over the years. We all have things to learn from each other but that's true of everyone, not just doctors... I can't imagine spending 400$ just to see them, but I probably would have felt differently had I been rich at the beginning of my path to curing my skin.

400$....jeez man. Maybe I should become one.

Edited by dejaclairevoyant, 02 May 2012 - 08:39 AM.

[4Fours]

dejaclairevoyant, on 02 May 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

Seems like a crazy amount of money to spend for stuff you could do for yourself, but if you feel you can't, and you have the money, I don't see why not. It's important to note that most of us probably don't have that sort of money though.

The way I feel is; educate yourself. That naturopath is just a regular person who has educated themselves. You don't need to go to school to get an education. If you learn enough, eventually you will know as much as the naturopath does, and by then you will probably not need one anymore because you'll have already found your answers.

I know a few naturopaths and we are pretty much on the same page about everything. They don't seem to be aware of much that I haven't learned on my own about food and herbs and the body over the years. We all have things to learn from each other but that's true of everyone, not just doctors... I can't imagine spending 400$ just to see them, but I probably would have felt differently had I been rich at the beginning of my path to curing my skin.

400$....jeez man. Maybe I should become one.

With that line of thinking you might as well have your roommate learn about dentistry so he can give you a free root canal. Naturopaths are licensed health-care practitioners who have a doctorate; you can't just hang a shingle on your front door and call yourself a Naturopath. Do you really think you can learn everything they have learned in their years of med school, residency and in their practice?

Plus, no matter how much you learn, it doesn't add up to the ability to spot patterns or to trouble shoot tough, complex cases. Even if you learn all the facts, it tends to be the counter intuitive relationships between all of the systems that aren't talked about on internet articles. I think for people without complex cases, it must seem like the internet has it all written down.... but when the case is really tough, you finally see how deep the naturalpaths knowledge goes.

Go ahead and become one, and after you go through all the schooling, you will realize that maybe there was more to this Naturopath thing than you thought.

I'd rather invest in the most important thing in life... MY HEALTH... and spend my time doing things I love.

Edited by 4Fours, 08 May 2012 - 01:57 PM.

[dejaclairevoyant]

Did you miss the part where I said, if one could afford it, I don't see why not?

It's not about choosing to invest or not invest. These things are not an option for someone like me. People with money probably have all sorts of options to play with. People without money have to figure out how to do things on their own.

[thisisnothollywood]

the discissions totally up to you, personally for me it was a waste of time, I spent almost $300 and then she wanted me to buy her book and her herbal teas and her creams, was going to come to just over a thousand dollars, so I nebver went back./ If u do your own research online, check out some of the posts here etc, I am sure you could do just as good a job!

[dejaclairevoyant]

^Thank you...that's kinda the point I was trying to make.

I have a hard time trusting that anyone who would charge someone in need of healing $3-400. That is just raping people for their money and unless youre a millionare that is really going to hurt. My friend who is a naturopath told me everything she knows about healing for free--that is a real healer, someone who really wants to help people.

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Do you really think you can learn everything they have learned in their years of med school, residency and in their practice?

I didn't answer this before but actually, yes. Yes I can. You have no idea the extent of my learning, what I've done or how long I've been on this path so you couldn't possibly judge how my own abilities compare to those of one of these people.

Edited by dejaclairevoyant, 09 May 2012 - 08:39 AM.

[4Fours]

thisisnothollywood, on 08 May 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

the discissions totally up to you, personally for me it was a waste of time, I spent almost $300 and then she wanted me to buy her book and her herbal teas and her creams, was going to come to just over a thousand dollars, so I nebver went back./ If u do your own research online, check out some of the posts here etc, I am sure you could do just as good a job!

That's too bad, it sounds like you went to a shady one. I've never felt ripped off by mine, and she's never tried to sell me any books.

dejaclairevoyant, on 09 May 2012 - 08:38 AM, said:

^Thank you...that's kinda the point I was trying to make.

I have a hard time trusting that anyone who would charge someone in need of healing $3-400. That is just raping people for their money and unless youre a millionare that is really going to hurt. My friend who is a naturopath told me everything she knows about healing for free--that is a real healer, someone who really wants to help people.

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Do you really think you can learn everything they have learned in their years of med school, residency and in their practice?

I didn't answer this before but actually, yes. Yes I can. You have no idea the extent of my learning, what I've done or how long I've been on this path so you couldn't possibly judge how my own abilities compare to those of one of these people.

I'm going to quote George Bernard Shaw here: “Never wrestle with a pig—you get dirty and the pig likes it”

[Thehoper]

That price really sucks, come on now I would have had a long talk to her about that lol. I would love to be a naturopathic doctor myself, and before all else comes helping people. We live in a struggling economy, I would feel guilty charging someone 100 bucks for a visit.

None the less good luck all.