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[Liquid_Ocelot]

Hi, i've been experimenting with home made Platelet Rich Plasma combined with Derma stamp. I made another thread documenting my results but it's getting pretty long now.

To sum up my results as briefly as possible, i've discovered that PRP does indeed shorten recovery times after using a 1.5mm derma stamp compared to using other topicals such as Vitamin C etc....

In October I used PRP for the first itme (applied topically after needling) and my skin was more or less completely recovered within 3 days. In December I had another treatment, this time without PRP, using only manufactured topicals such as Vitamin C, Growth Factor Serums and such, and it took the usual 5 days to recover. However this prolonged recovery may be due to other factors, I can't be 100% sure at this point.

I will do another treatment within the next month, hopefully this will establish whether PRP is worth the effort.

One difference for this latest treatment will be the addition of Thrombin. Basically when you apply PRP you need to add something to activate the Platelets which in turn releases growth factors. In October I had used 10% Calcium Chloride which is a rather mild activator, Thrombin on the other hand will immediately activate the Platelets and accelerate healing and remodelling of the skin. This is the theory anyway.

Will post results here, negative or positive. Wish me luck.

[Liquid_Ocelot]

Hi guys, will go ahead with the treatment next week. One minor change, i'm going to use something called the 'Dermapen' this time instead of my usual derma stamp. It's pretty much the same thing but automated. A video of it being used with Platelet Rich Plasma of all things -



Will let you know my thoughts on both the Dermapen and the effects of needling PRP into the skin.

[neuroticwaif]

Hey LO,

Good luck. That dermapen looks great. I went to the website but they only sell to drs and acupuncturists. Where are you getting yours, the cost, etc?

Thanks in advance.

[Liquid_Ocelot]

neuroticwaif, on 19 March 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

Hey LO,

Good luck. That dermapen looks great. I went to the website but they only sell to drs and acupuncturists. Where are you getting yours, the cost, etc?

Thanks in advance.

To be honest I don't think the Dermapen is necessary to get results, it's essentially the same thing as a derma stamp, just automated. I only bought it 'cos I have cash to spare right now.

It cost me around 500 euros including shipping and a batch of disposable needle heads. I bought it from a spanish website.

[Liquid_Ocelot]

Did the treatment last night, and i'm really really happy with the way it went. The creation of the PRP went smoothly and i'm really liking the dermapen. This has been the most thorough needling treatment i've done so far. You get a lot more even coverage and it's also less painful than a derma stamp. Saying that, it is a luxury and I only recommend it over the derma stamp if your wealthy and money isn't an issue.

And regarding PRP, this is the first time i've used a proper activator (Thrombin) so i'm looking forward to the results. My skin seems to be healing nicely already, mostly just redness, not many blood spots.

Essentially what i've applied is Platelet Gel (PRP mixed with Thrombin) and Fibrin Glue (PPP mixed with Thrombin). Both pretty common wound healing protocols. I'm not sure why it's isn't more widely used for scar treatments, must be the inconvenience of drawing the blood etc...

Will update in a couple days.

[Nope.avi]

How much have you spent on this, roughly?

[Liquid_Ocelot]

About £800 start up, would be considerably less if I used a derma stamp instead of the dermapen but I can afford it right now.

[Zante]

I don't suppose that, being so thorough, you have photos?

[Liquid_Ocelot]

Well I have no before shots so i'm not sure how beneficial they will be. I'm also paranoid about someone recognizing me. I will consider close-ups after my next treatment.