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#41 microbiek

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:20 PM

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Yeah 2 weeks is all it took for me, I am 20 by the way good guess! The thing is before now I haven't gone a solid 2 weeks like this since I was 16! o.0


Yea id be the exact same, on day three myself; its not as tough as i thought but still tough. I reckon once you get to a certain point you're over the hump and it gets easier.

Can I ask when you started noticing improvements? I have mild to moderate acne but just around my mouth (or goatee area)..I've read that masturbation is related to forehead acne but still hoping this works!

dandantheman...where do you get spots if you do go over the once a week limit?

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:55 PM

Most of the time it's my face, neck, shoulders, back. Usually on one side of my body or the other, but sometimes very close to the spine, which is annoying. Occasionally near my butt (whoa TMI) and in places where light does not enter.

If I go twice in one day, or 2-3 consecutive days, I tend to get deeper acne, like cysts or nodule type things that are impossible to deal with.

If I do it 2-3 times per week, but spaced out throughout the week, it slightly delays it. But if I keep up that every-other-day pattern for a few occasions, it doesn't take long for the acne to storm my skin like Seal Team Six. Usually it's anywhere from 1-3 days afterward when I either start to notice it develop, and maybe 2-4 days to be at its worst. Once I hit the 6-9 day mark (and I've cooled my jets on the sex) it's all gone and healed up (or nearly there).

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 01:07 PM

Also, Toom, just thought I'd add: My entire high school and college experience was ruined by this. I used to masturbate every single day. I bought into the whole idea of it being a stress-reliever and thus perfectly OK to do daily without any repercussions. Well, the repercussion was that I was always embarrassed to do anything, to go out places, to hang out with friends, etc. because I felt like my acne made me seem more juvenile. And thinking about it so much made me feel even more juvenile, and like I was less than other people, or not worth all that fun stuff. It was a cycle that I didn't know how to break because I wasn't really aware of it. It drained my mental energy and just made me feel sedate all the time (the post-orgasmic effect of less testosterone, more oxytocin, etc.).

What is unfortunate for us is that society is in this whiplashed knee-jerk phase about sex. Anybody that tries to recommend moderating sex is assumed to be a religious nut case, a puritan, or a prude. The ideal held up on a pedestal is that we should fornicate daily in all sorts of wild ways - anything less is to not be reaching our full sexual potential. All of this stuff, which I'd love to believe and act on, I can't because now I know that temporary abstinence is the only thing that strongly reverses my acne and keeps it at bay. But what is more is that it has opened my eyes to another viewpoint where sex is still really important but doesn't override everything else in my life.

The most interesting case of this, for me, was a dermatologist lady who, upon hearing my situation, more or less threw her hands up in the air and said "We just don't know enough about this topic yet." (It could have just ended there, but...) she then gave me a prescription for Minocycline, and told me "don't worry about the ejaculation, just do as the spirit moves you". I don't expect a dermatologist to know everything, but after situations like this I really do get kind of irritated when people say our situation is invalid because no dermatologists have studied and acknowledged it conclusively yet.

And Ukulala, I don't mean any offense, but as guys on this issue we can't really speak for women, and women really can't speak for us. The hormonal and physiological differences between men & women are not negligible, and to complicate things both genders are complicated and diverse in and of themselves. What you mentioned about sex being normal and natural I completely agree with, but your surprise and shock is something I see often on these forums, especially from the womenfolk. And I'm not trying to call you out specifically, so I hope you don't take it personally. I just want people reading these discussions to realize that this is indeed valid, and what we think about sexuality doesn't trump the realities of how some of our bodies respond to it. Most people apparently don't have this problem, but for those that do, trust me - we're not anti-sex. We see all the hyper-sexualized messages out there and feel like we're missing out to some degree. But at the same time, this has opened doors to a lot of other ideas, like how to control my own hormones & moods, how to build anticipation with my partner, how to really enjoy sex without getting bored with it from doing it all the time, and how to tap into extra energy & drive & motivation I didn't know I could have.

Anyway... carry on dudes.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 10:52 AM

Words of wisdom right here. Some people don't understand that masturbation can be a real problem for some of us. Not just for acne, but our entire well being.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 10:59 AM

Yessir, it affects other things to.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 11:36 AM

I'm trying this.

I started losing my hair when I turned 20 years old, and every time I lift weights my skin gets worse a week later.
Plus, I also have enlarged prostate.
It seems like I have to much DHT in my body.

I'm on day 6.

I will let you know how it goes.

Elvin

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 02:56 PM

Dandan -- I really appreciated that response. Well articulated.
I certainly don't mean to judge anyone; live and let live, and, as I keep saying, if it works for you, awesome.
Guess that's just my perspective.
But glad you've found your way!

(And I must say that building with a partner should be an awesome thing for ANYONE - regardless of how they react to masturbation. :))

Cheers.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:25 PM

I know it's hard for people to understand because it is a totally different life style. It was difficult for me to accept at first but once I saw all the benefits from it, I never even second guessed it.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:34 PM

This is extremely hard, day 4 has just begun, had a relapse with a girl but I should be able to reach 2 weeks now. I'm hoping I get over the hump pretty soon. Think i'm having a slight purging moment too? Don't suppose that happend you guys at all?

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:48 PM

View Postmicrobiek, on 05 February 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

This is extremely hard, day 4 has just begun, had a relapse with a girl but I should be able to reach 2 weeks now. I'm hoping I get over the hump pretty soon. Think i'm having a slight purging moment too? Don't suppose that happend you guys at all?

There absolutely is a purging during this time, as your skin and body get back the normal hormonal levels. There will never be healing without inflammation, so purging is a good thing.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 07:11 PM

View Postbobbi364, on 05 February 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

View Postmicrobiek, on 05 February 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

This is extremely hard, day 4 has just begun, had a relapse with a girl but I should be able to reach 2 weeks now. I'm hoping I get over the hump pretty soon. Think i'm having a slight purging moment too? Don't suppose that happend you guys at all?

There absolutely is a purging during this time, as your skin and body get back the normal hormonal levels. There will never be healing without inflammation, so purging is a good thing.

Ah I see..was worried for a while. So hard to know if it was a coincidence or not. Hope it heals in the same timeframe as tooms haha!

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 08:02 PM

View Postmicrobiek, on 05 February 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

View PostFrom 05 February 2012 - 06:48 PM:

View PostFrom 05 February 2012 - 06:34 PM:

This is extremely hard, day 4 has just begun, had a relapse with a girl but I should be able to reach 2 weeks now. I'm hoping I get over the hump pretty soon. Think i'm having a slight purging moment too? Don't suppose that happend you guys at all?

There absolutely is a purging during this time, as your skin and body get back the normal hormonal levels.  There will never be healing without inflammation, so purging is a good thing.

Ah I see..was worried for a while. So hard to know if it was a coincidence or not. Hope it heals in the same timeframe as tooms haha!

Time frames will be different in each individual, but it is a good sign when you see old blemish resurface as white heads, that is a sign of healing.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 08:19 AM

View Postmicrobiek, on 05 February 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

This is extremely hard, day 4 has just begun, had a relapse with a girl but I should be able to reach 2 weeks now. I'm hoping I get over the hump pretty soon. Think i'm having a slight purging moment too? Don't suppose that happend you guys at all?

It is ridiculously hard to start with and I still only go 4 days sometimes. It's like the smoker saying quitting is easy I have done it a 1000 times

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View PostToom, on 02 February 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:


Yeah 2 weeks is all it took for me, I am 20 by the way good guess! The thing is before now I haven't gone a solid 2 weeks like this since I was 16! o.0


Yea id be the exact same, on day three myself; its not as tough as i thought but still tough. I reckon once you get to a certain point you're over the hump and it gets easier.

Can I ask when you started noticing improvements? I have mild to moderate acne but just around my mouth (or goatee area)..I've read that masturbation is related to forehead acne but still hoping this works!

dandantheman...where do you get spots if you do go over the once a week limit?

Hey I noticed drastic improvements over even a one week timescale. If its not working short term for you don't bother. Probably not worth it. If you do notice changes like I did welcome to unwanted celibacy Lol.

It's like when I spent 3 months burning my face off with bp because people were telling me it can take that longto work. If it doesn't change over the week fuck it, wank away.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:13 PM

View PostToom, on 09 March 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

View Postmicrobiek, on 05 February 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

This is extremely hard, day 4 has just begun, had a relapse with a girl but I should be able to reach 2 weeks now. I'm hoping I get over the hump pretty soon. Think i'm having a slight purging moment too? Don't suppose that happend you guys at all?

It is ridiculously hard to start with and I still only go 4 days sometimes. It's like the smoker saying quitting is easy I have done it a 1000 times

View Postmicrobiek, on 02 February 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

View PostToom, on 02 February 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

Yeah 2 weeks is all it took for me, I am 20 by the way good guess! The thing is before now I haven't gone a solid 2 weeks like this since I was 16! o.0


Yea id be the exact same, on day three myself; its not as tough as i thought but still tough. I reckon once you get to a certain point you're over the hump and it gets easier.

Can I ask when you started noticing improvements? I have mild to moderate acne but just around my mouth (or goatee area)..I've read that masturbation is related to forehead acne but still hoping this works!

dandantheman...where do you get spots if you do go over the once a week limit?

Hey I noticed drastic improvements over even a one week timescale. If its not working short term for you don't bother. Probably not worth it. If you do notice changes like I did welcome to unwanted celibacy Lol.

It's like when I spent 3 months burning my face off with bp because people were telling me it can take that longto work. If it doesn't change over the week fuck it, wank away.

Whats the story, Yea fortunately and I guess unfortunately I have noticed big improvements even in the short time scale its unfortunate because as you said its unwanted celabacy...

I first started this around the start of feb and its taken till now to actually go 2 weeks!! on day 13 going into day 14...Its handy now, was very hard at the start but I really dont even think about it that much anymore!

As for the condition of my skin....during the week 1 period I purged so those spots are there and theyre big, other than that though spots that were there beforehand are still visible but going away and I can see red marks going and the overall dept of my acne has decreased if ya get me...

I think i'll go 21-28days which doesnt even seem too difficult a task and then i'll know once and for all...I think the reason it worked for you over two weeks is your spot turnover is prob greater than min, so like when i get one it can hang around for 3-4weeks that why I going to stay celibate for that long :-(

I find myself asking now...would I still stay celibate if I improve by 60/70/80/90% its hard to know but if i get results like you it shouldnt be too hard...and sure you say celibate but you can relapse every 2 weeks or so or as your man bobbii does 1nce a week...

I'll be sure to let ya's know the result...its looking good

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 06:00 AM

View Postmicrobiek, on 10 March 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

View PostToom, on 09 March 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

View Postmicrobiek, on 05 February 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

This is extremely hard, day 4 has just begun, had a relapse with a girl but I should be able to reach 2 weeks now. I'm hoping I get over the hump pretty soon. Think i'm having a slight purging moment too? Don't suppose that happend you guys at all?

It is ridiculously hard to start with and I still only go 4 days sometimes. It's like the smoker saying quitting is easy I have done it a 1000 times

View Postmicrobiek, on 02 February 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

View PostToom, on 02 February 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

Yeah 2 weeks is all it took for me, I am 20 by the way good guess! The thing is before now I haven't gone a solid 2 weeks like this since I was 16! o.0


Yea id be the exact same, on day three myself; its not as tough as i thought but still tough. I reckon once you get to a certain point you're over the hump and it gets easier.

Can I ask when you started noticing improvements? I have mild to moderate acne but just around my mouth (or goatee area)..I've read that masturbation is related to forehead acne but still hoping this works!

dandantheman...where do you get spots if you do go over the once a week limit?

Hey I noticed drastic improvements over even a one week timescale. If its not working short term for you don't bother. Probably not worth it. If you do notice changes like I did welcome to unwanted celibacy Lol.

It's like when I spent 3 months burning my face off with bp because people were telling me it can take that longto work. If it doesn't change over the week fuck it, wank away.

Whats the story, Yea fortunately and I guess unfortunately I have noticed big improvements even in the short time scale its unfortunate because as you said its unwanted celabacy...

I first started this around the start of feb and its taken till now to actually go 2 weeks!! on day 13 going into day 14...Its handy now, was very hard at the start but I really dont even think about it that much anymore!

As for the condition of my skin....during the week 1 period I purged so those spots are there and theyre big, other than that though spots that were there beforehand are still visible but going away and I can see red marks going and the overall dept of my acne has decreased if ya get me...

I think i'll go 21-28days which doesnt even seem too difficult a task and then i'll know once and for all...I think the reason it worked for you over two weeks is your spot turnover is prob greater than min, so like when i get one it can hang around for 3-4weeks that why I going to stay celibate for that long Posted Image(

I find myself asking now...would I still stay celibate if I improve by 60/70/80/90% its hard to know but if i get results like you it shouldnt be too hard...and sure you say celibate but you can relapse every 2 weeks or so or as your man bobbii does 1nce a week...

I'll be sure to let ya's know the result...its looking good

Good to hear, now man up and post some pics!!




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