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[Tunnelvisionary]

alternativista, on 25 January 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

travelzd, on 25 January 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

OK so this will generate a ton of pro diet-causes-acne people responses... but I ve been inyour place- doing crazy diets that dont work- and I think I need to share what I and my aethetician and dematologist all agree on(DRS and trained professionals): diet does NOT cause acne...certain things can make it worse but it doesn't cause it. ok?

Crazy diets don't work. That is true. And you shouldn't do crazy diets. What you should do is eat plenty of real, whole nutrient dense foods, more anti-inflammatory foods than inflammatory, in blood sugar stabilizing meals that don't include anything you have an intolerance to. And that is good for every health condition and it retards aging. Because that is how humans should eat. Anything else, is crazy.

I love this response when people say the phrase "crazy diets"

[AutonomousOne1980]

limpbizkitfan, on 25 January 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

autonomousone1980: I didn't say that the fight is not worth it, I will still eat healthy for the rest of my life but, I am just saying that I don't think eating super healthy is going to clear my acne 100%...I notice I am breaking out less but, is it gonna go away all together?

I am quiting my super restriction diet and am going to eat overall healthy, so I don't get any nutrient deficiencies or other health issues. Do I think this healthy way of eating will clear my acne? No. I'm scared inside thinking my face is gonna explode w/ breakouts the next few weeks and just get worse.
For some reason, I think if i eat only lettuce and raw salad willl clear me and if i eat overall healthy, high nutrition and healthy fats and meat im going to start breaking out...it's weird.


But the breakouts that i have now might be from my kefir? Since iread on the label it has regular milk AND cultured milk, and milk is suppost to be the worst thing in the world for acne.

i agree, an overall sensible diet would be best.

i apologize if i sounded like i was accusing you of giving up.

i agree, acne is sensitive to dairy products, i manage this issue by eating only two pieces of string cheese perday supplying 400mg of calcium, in addition to 600mg calcium phosphate supplements, i use the brand posture d and i buy it from swanson vitamins, it is very similar to the natural calcium in milk, i have tried all other forms of calcium supplements and this one just works best while the others make me feel strange, ive tried citrate and carbonate, and then realized when i got all my calcium from cheese that was when i felt the best, which prompted me to look for anything that was the most similar to milk, and milk contains calcium phosphate, just like the supplement.

[bobbi364]

There is a cure for acne, but not everyone will be successful, because almost everyone's cure will be different. I did cure my acne, has been 6 years, no new acne. People sometimes grow out of acne, as in cure it, because DHT/testosterone decreases in the blood as one ages, this eliminates most acne problems, however, this is not the case with everyone.

[alternativista]

limpbizkitfan, on 25 January 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

I am just saying that I don't think eating super healthy is going to clear my acne 100%...I notice I am breaking out less but, is it gonna go away all together?

You haven't given it enough time. And I don't mean the cabbage only diet. I mean, cutting out/reducing sugar, grains, dairy, hydrogenated/trans fats and processed foods in favor of real, whole nutrient dense foods?

limpbizkitfan, on 25 January 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

I am quiting my super restriction diet and am going to eat overall healthy, so I don't get any nutrient deficiencies or other health issues.

Good. You should not go on a cabbage only diet except perhaps as a temporary fast. I gave you a list of nutrient dense foods with more than enough calories to which few people have an intolerance for.

And do you even know what healthy is?

[limpbizkitfan]

^^^ Yeah i had enough time on my hands to read about what's healthy. So far this is what I cam to conclusion:

-organic meat, organic organ meat.
-Fish (clams, oysters)
-raw sesame seeds
-ground flax seeds
-avacados
-fruit (exclusing citrus) & limited fruit consumption
-baked vegetables w/ coconut oil (excluding midnight shades, and starchy vegetables)
-small amounts of raisins & dried fruit
-homemade fermented vegetables
-zinc suppliments
-2 to 3 Liters of water per day
-vegetable soup with bone broth & meat broth.
-EVOO
-green leafy vegetables for a raw salad w/ lemon and EVOO & pepper
-boiled greens (the really fibrous, dense ones)

And cut out: Grains, gluten, dairy, wheat, soy, eggs, corn, starch, midnight shades, sugar, and oil (besides coconut & EVOO).
*But I don't really like eating meat, it kinda makes me feel sick so I would probably avoid meat and suppliment with B complex. I like fresh tasting clean stuff like fish, vegetables, and fresh fruit.

This is healthy right?

[dreamingofclearskin2011]

LOL at your "interests"...

[Chestercool]

limpbizkitfan, on 25 January 2012 - 07:32 PM, said:

^^^ Yeah i had enough time on my hands to read about what's healthy. So far this is what I cam to conclusion:

-organic meat, organic organ meat.
-Fish (clams, oysters)
-raw sesame seeds
-ground flax seeds
-avacados
-fruit (exclusing citrus) & limited fruit consumption
-baked vegetables w/ coconut oil (excluding midnight shades, and starchy vegetables)
-small amounts of raisins & dried fruit
-homemade fermented vegetables
-zinc suppliments
-2 to 3 Liters of water per day
-vegetable soup with bone broth & meat broth.
-EVOO
-green leafy vegetables for a raw salad w/ lemon and EVOO & pepper
-boiled greens (the really fibrous, dense ones)

And cut out: Grains, gluten, dairy, wheat, soy, eggs, corn, starch, midnight shades, sugar, and oil (besides coconut & EVOO).
*But I don't really like eating meat, it kinda makes me feel sick so I would probably avoid meat and suppliment with B complex. I like fresh tasting clean stuff like fish, vegetables, and fresh fruit.

This is healthy right?

@dreamingofclearskin

everybody had bacteria on the face, its normal, you can find P.acnes on a baby skin, you can have acne under control with dans regimen for example, which destroys 99.9% of bacteria, but its not against the main factors

That seems a good diet, you can add sweet potatoes, yams, quinoa, amaranth, etc. If you just eat this food its going to bore you, dont be afraid to cook, if you dont enjoy your food you are not going to have a good mental state. You can try different healthy recipes. For example, today i ate a traditional food which i found interesting, im so lucky my mom cooks really good, it was bolined chicken, many vegetables were added to give it taste, the rest of my family ate it with rice, except me, i added sweet potatoe and white yams. It was delicious, you gotta enjoy your food.

ps: try sweet potatoes with some honey...delicious

[limpbizkitfan]

Chestercool, on 25 January 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

limpbizkitfan, on 25 January 2012 - 07:32 PM, said:

^^^ Yeah i had enough time on my hands to read about what's healthy. So far this is what I cam to conclusion:

-organic meat, organic organ meat.
-Fish (clams, oysters)
-raw sesame seeds
-ground flax seeds
-avacados
-fruit (exclusing citrus) & limited fruit consumption
-baked vegetables w/ coconut oil (excluding midnight shades, and starchy vegetables)
-small amounts of raisins & dried fruit
-homemade fermented vegetables
-zinc suppliments
-2 to 3 Liters of water per day
-vegetable soup with bone broth & meat broth.
-EVOO
-green leafy vegetables for a raw salad w/ lemon and EVOO & pepper
-boiled greens (the really fibrous, dense ones)

And cut out: Grains, gluten, dairy, wheat, soy, eggs, corn, starch, midnight shades, sugar, and oil (besides coconut & EVOO).
*But I don't really like eating meat, it kinda makes me feel sick so I would probably avoid meat and suppliment with B complex. I like fresh tasting clean stuff like fish, vegetables, and fresh fruit.

This is healthy right?

@dreamingofclearskin

everybody had bacteria on the face, its normal, you can find P.acnes on a baby skin, you can have acne under control with dans regimen for example, which destroys 99.9% of bacteria, but its not against the main factors

That seems a good diet, you can add sweet potatoes, yams, quinoa, amaranth, etc. If you just eat this food its going to bore you, dont be afraid to cook, if you dont enjoy your food you are not going to have a good mental state. You can try different healthy recipes. For example, today i ate a traditional food which i found interesting, im so lucky my mom cooks really good, it was bolined chicken, many vegetables were added to give it taste, the rest of my family ate it with rice, except me, i added sweet potatoe and white yams. It was delicious, you gotta enjoy your food.

ps: try sweet potatoes with some honey...delicious

true true, enjoying your food is the #1 thing. But the things I listed taste good to me...you don't like baked veggies w/ coconut oil? It tastes sooo good. 100x better than steamed veggies taste wisse.
I don't even need sweet potatoes, I'm fine without it, and plus I don't want to take any chances...
I've had quinoa, its suppost to be a complete source of protein...but it looks like a grain which is really offputting when your trying your hardest to avoid all grains, I know it's TECHNICALLY a seed but stillll it looks like rice!! lol.

dreamingofclearskin2011, on 25 January 2012 - 08:06 PM, said:

LOL at your "interests"...

Hahaa but it is the truth!

[alternativista]

The best way to cook those vegetables is to steam them, btw. Or quick saute/stir fry. Not boil and bake. And flax seeds are great for some, but make others worse, so watch for that.

Chestercool, on 25 January 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

ps: try sweet potatoes with some honey...delicious

ugh! Why do people want to add sugar to an already sweet food? Try them with a spicy seasoned salt and olive oil. Or cinnamon.

Edited by alternativista, 26 January 2012 - 06:52 AM.

[dreamingofclearskin2011]

yes try cinnamon on the sweet potato^ it will be your new favorite dish i promise!

[Antik]

Eggs are the most nutrient packed food on earth. Unless ur allergic, why would you eliminate them ?

[limpbizkitfan]

Antik, on 26 January 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

Eggs are the most nutrient packed food on earth. Unless ur allergic, why would you eliminate them ?

Because I read some people may be intollerant to them. But, I have been eating eggs for breakfast for the past two days and haven't had any new breakouts yet...so maybe i am not intolerant, i just have to wait and see.

alternativista, on 26 January 2012 - 06:49 AM, said:

The best way to cook those vegetables is to steam them, btw. Or quick saute/stir fry. Not boil and bake. And flax seeds are great for some, but make others worse, so watch for that.

Chestercool, on 25 January 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

ps: try sweet potatoes with some honey...delicious

ugh! Why do people want to add sugar to an already sweet food? Try them with a spicy seasoned salt and olive oil. Or cinnamon.

In my case, eating them baked is a lot healthier because when I steam them, it tastes so bland that I get hungry for crap like cookies. OR I just want to add some kind of unhealthy dressing on top to add flavor. Baking it adds a lot of flavor so I feel really satisfied after eating it and it won't cause me to go off my diet and eat cookies.

I think taste is more important than the health aspect of steamed vs baked...because there is only a tiny bit of health difference. Both of them are super healthy but, one of them taste 100x better and can heighten your overall quality of life because you enjoy what your eating.

Baked veggies > Steamed veggies.

& thanks, I decided to not buy flaxseeds, I think I will just buy fish instead, like oysters or clams.

Edited by limpbizkitfan, 26 January 2012 - 04:50 PM.

[sen1]

dreamingofclearskin2011, on 26 January 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

yes try cinnamon on the sweet potato^ it will be your new favorite dish i promise!

Sweet potatoes with almond butter + cinnamon is also delicious. I sometimes add melted dark chocolate too lol

Edited by sen1, 26 January 2012 - 05:08 PM.

[limpbizkitfan]

sen1, on 26 January 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

dreamingofclearskin2011, on 26 January 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

yes try cinnamon on the sweet potato^ it will be your new favorite dish i promise!

Sweet potatoes with almond butter + cinnamon is also delicious. I sometimes add melted dark chocolate too lol

that sounds nasty. I can't imagine puttting chocolate on top of sweet potatoes lol

[sen1]

limpbizkitfan, on 26 January 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

sen1, on 26 January 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

dreamingofclearskin2011, on 26 January 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

yes try cinnamon on the sweet potato^ it will be your new favorite dish i promise!

Sweet potatoes with almond butter + cinnamon is also delicious. I sometimes add melted dark chocolate too lol

that sounds nasty. I can't imagine puttting chocolate on top of sweet potatoes lol

Pure dark chocolate is pretty bitter so it goes well with it imo. Regular chocolate probably wouldnt taste very good as it'd be too sweet. I also throw on blueberries, forgot about that

Edited by sen1, 26 January 2012 - 07:09 PM.

[sasch12]

limpbizkitfan, on 25 January 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:

I came to the realization that acne vulgaris is a permanent skin condition. Once you have it, it's there to haunt you for life. I think all the ppl on here claiming they got clear...are all either lying or dillusional.

I don't think it's possible for someone who has acne prone skin to be clear longer than a week. Much less get clear and stay clear for the rest of their life.



No matter how healthy I eat, I still get breakouts. Creams and lotions don't work and accutane only lasts a year, water fasting is just a temporary fix.
All I have been eating is fruits and vegetables and lots of water and I'm still getting breakouts!! How could I be "intolerant" to vegetables?!!!!! It's nott logical.....I can't go the rest of my life eating this way or I will die from anorexia, malnutrition, or nutrient defficiencies.

I agree with some things that you said and disagree with others. As far as we know, acne has no cure, just as diabetes has no cure- you can keep your sugar in check with diet and you will have a normal blood range but it doesn't mean you're cured, same with acne, if you want to stay fairly clear, you gotta stick with your regimen (be it diet, topicals, caveman - whatever works for you)

I however disagree with your blanket statement that diet does not have ANY effect on acne. You've been on your diet for less than a month so how do you know if it's working or not. 1 month, 2 months or sometimes 3 months is not enough time to gauge if something is the absolute end all and be all. Also, bear in mind that what is healthy for other people's body may not be healthy for yours so even though vegetables are good for us, you may be intolerant to come kinds of vegetables. Take the time to do your research and play around with a realisitic diet before you decide to throw in the towel. It's a hard process but for a better quality of life ( skin/body), it needs to be done.

I am 1 month into diet changes and my acne has gotten waaaaaay worse but you know what, my body feel incredible so i will continue to play around with foods to see if i can identify my triggers. I've also taken a food sensitivity test so hopefully that will point me in the right direction.

Good Luck in your continued search