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[sasch12]

k3tchup, on 04 February 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

k3tchup, on 03 February 2012 - 09:41 PM, said:

sasch12, on 03 February 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

dejaclairevoyant, on 01 February 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

Yeah I agree if you can eat sweet potatoes they help so much. I've only recently added them back in after a long time eliminating anything that could possibly be messing up my gut. No bad reactions so far, I am pleased.

If it were me I'd just eliminate all the high's and moderates, if you're going to do it you might as well clear out anything that could be harming you and start from scratch.

Bummer about the eggs... I eat them a lot and don't think they are that good for me either. They feel inflammatory. But I haven't gotten around to cutting them out yet.

I am working towards that but i am overwhelmed as it is with a lot of things happening in my personal life so i am starting small changes AKA all the highly inflammatory things. I eventually want to eliminate the moderate stuff as soon as i can (i actually will try quinoa oats as a substitution for oats and see how i like it). As i am prediabtic, i am also watching my carbs so i have to go easy on sweet potatoes. I have begun to read 'The Clear Skin Diet' and it really repeats a lot of the information that i have learned her, but i like it so far. The authors are adamant that diet does affect health but also acknowledges that diet is not the only contribution to acne and that it may best be implemented with other things such as stress reduction, exercise and sometimes even topicals. Sticking to my eating patterns so hopefully in a month i will notice patterns and/or positive changes.

k3tchup, on 03 February 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

well good advise, overwhelming.

my 2 cents in this matter: if you eat something and wake up and see you have a negative reaction WHILE using topicals or whatever your using and werent breaking out before then thats your cue. confusing i know. Like me i broke out and then wonder why. Well i ate this and then i wonder well im using this topical and that can lead to break outs but it shouldnt after being on it so long. Confusing and missleading.And for someone who exercises alot then i have to add in that it could have been caused by that as well.

So you just have to experiment on a personal basis. Example in this to would be to observe what type of break out you had. My experience is this: If i eat peanut butter i know the next morning i will have whiteheads. I try to minimize my exposure to peanut butter then.. because of this learn behavior. Same with eating oranges, though i can tolerate some orange juice. V-8 juice i cannot drink because i will break out, i experimented with that twice. However i can eat real tomatoes and everything else on the ingredient list just fine.

So it becuase a science experiment. I hope and pray the best of luck to you. I dont mean to provide the wrong info, or confuse anyone. It becomes a personal fight because only u know your body and you just have to learn unfortunately the hard way.

Thanks for the encourgement and kind suggestions. I try to analyse to see if there is a correlation to foods and the type of pimples i get but the issue is that i break out EVERYDAY! Sometimes big, sometimes small and my diet is pretty consistent so its hard to pinpoint what is contributing to this. I am not thrilled with the topicals but like everything else, i think time, patience and finding something that works for me is the key. I'll definitely keep looking and try to stay positive. Health wise though, i feel GREAT!!!!

yea i understand. you dont know whats up or down if your breaking out everyday. its like you dont even want to eat anything. ive been there. again topicals helped some in this situation. stay away from bp and go for more "natural" healing. tea tree oil and stuff in that line.

and good luck.

Well i started tretinoin in November of last year. I never had any initial break outs, no irritation or anything.
Results? It has helped i would say some what( I mean it is only 3 months into use) but im not sure if its the "bees knees" like everyone says it is. Sure i can tell a big difference in my smile, and my skins "plumpness". It almost feels fake imo because ive never had such thick cheeks and a good smile lol. its hard to explain.

But for the past weeks now ive been wondering if its sort of breaking me out. Early January i applied it to my chin and broke out. Took me weeks to get that under control. Now certain areas where ive concentrated more on have done the same, but more in the sense of small bumps. Like clogged pores in a way. These spots have been clear for months but the slight marks remain hence the use on that area.

All in all my regimen is working but i might be d/c tretinoin. I quit differin too because i felt it was causing break outs and i read up on that it could.

I tend to browse the EDS forums and it looks like i might try copper peptides as the are suppose to do what tretinoin dose but better.

oh and i must say i feel bad, almost ashamed, because im basically using antiaging products as if im some 40yr old woman trying to erase the signs of aging and more.WHen im only 21 and guy.. but they work. Now im kinda obsessed with the idea of staying young LOL

Ive been told before that i dont look 21 but that was before all this mess... now i wana stay that way.

Lol.....isn't it amazing to have to think about such things at this age? But seriously, hold on to youth because once it goes, it goes. I feel the same way about my regimen - is it irriating the skin? is it healing or helping? That is why i am focusing on nutrition too cause i strongly beieve that topicals can only take us so far. I plan on looking into the Paleo Diet that seems to be all the rage on here. A lot of people seem to have had good results from it. My only concern though is that i am trying to gain weight (in muscle form) so i am scared that paleo will have the opposite effect. I guess i need to read up on it some more - i hear it does wonders for blood sugar (another wonderful issue that i have the privelage of having).

[alternativista]

sasch12, on 04 February 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

I plan on looking into the Paleo Diet that seems to be all the rage on here. A lot of people seem to have had good results from it. My only concern though is that i am trying to gain weight (in muscle form) so i am scared that paleo will have the opposite effect. I guess i need to read up on it some more - i hear it does wonders for blood sugar (another wonderful issue that i have the privelage of having).

It may or may not do wonders for your blood sugar depending on what and how you choose to eat. Whether or not you choose to follow paleo or any other diet, what you need to do is eat mostly real, whole nutrient dense food. More anti-inflammatory than inflammatory. Avoid high glycemic load meals, drinks and snacks. And avoid anything that you have an intolerance for.

You should also look into intermittent fasting which has shown to improve insulin sensitivity. http://www.acne.org/...he-way-to-do-it

[sasch12]

alternativista, on 04 February 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

sasch12, on 04 February 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

I plan on looking into the Paleo Diet that seems to be all the rage on here. A lot of people seem to have had good results from it. My only concern though is that i am trying to gain weight (in muscle form) so i am scared that paleo will have the opposite effect. I guess i need to read up on it some more - i hear it does wonders for blood sugar (another wonderful issue that i have the privelage of having).

It may or may not do wonders for your blood sugar depending on what and how you choose to eat. Whether or not you choose to follow paleo or any other diet, what you need to do is eat mostly real, whole nutrient dense food. More anti-inflammatory than inflammatory. Avoid high glycemic load meals, drinks and snacks. And avoid anything that you have an intolerance for.

You should also look into intermittent fasting which has shown to improve insulin sensitivity. http://www.acne.org/...he-way-to-do-it

I agree 100% As of now, i have cut out oats (will substitute it with quinoa). I will give it 2-3 weeks to see if i notice a difference in how much i am breaking out. So as of now, no oats, dairy, gluten, and egg whites (will likely severly limit egg yolk too). Can you give me a guesstimate when i may notice a difference if those foods are triggering inflammation in me?

[wicky]

Im very interested in everything Sasch has said and done. I too have done many of the things she has and not had results. The only difference is I have done it for over a year now. Ive learned alot on this forum almost too much at times. It has consumed every waking moment of my life. I need to find a reason for why my skin does what it does. I have been to countless derms, spas, and naturopaths, allergists, and nutritionists. I have rosacea with very large pores. I have been treating my redness and veins with 3 Vbeam Lasers sessions..Its only helped slightly. I changed my diet in November of 2010 and rid myself of as many carbs as I could. No dairy, sweets,, or processed foods. I only ate meats, some fruits and veggies...I was basically starving myseld to rid myseld of the daily borage of red bumps and hive like welts that I would get. I have been journaling about my skin for 10+ years and still do not know what my skin needs or likes. I cannot find a cleanser or moisturizer that helps with the dryness but doesnt cause my chin to clog with thousands of mini clogs. I started noticing in the summer of 2010 that I was getting these weird red bumps that would show up mostly on the lower half of my face. I was determined to find a connection to food as the cause. I am still searching. I had an allergist do the typical skin pricking and blood draw but everything came back negative. I then found a food intolerance test online where you sent a hair sample and they determine thru your DNA what your intolerant to. Everything I thought I was allergic to like gluten or tomatoes (all based on my journaling) came back negative. What came back postive was everythiing I was eating in the way of good replacement foods to the crappy diet I was once consuming. I was eating hummus, eggs and limited oats to replace gluten and dressings and sauses. I was following a candida diet as I have developed sebhorreic dermatitis and found the only way to get rid of this was thru drastic diet changes. By now i have lost 40lbs and couldnt cut anything else out. I didnt know how accurate this hair sampling was but it was all I had to go on. Well everyone I've talked to since as said its bogus..Its similar to drug testing when they test your hair for different drugs in your system. Well thats what kind of happened to me.

So here I am over a year later still trying to figure out what breaks me out and why I have this rashyness on the side of my face for several months now despite being on a good diet. I do occasionally cheat and have an almond cookie (gluten free) but i cannot find living a life like this worth it. My naturopath wants me to have another allergy test which is $180 but its the IgG vs the one they do in the drs office which is IgA I believe. He says this the one in the drs office is for immediate reactions and they dont test for the delayed reactions. I just dont know what direction to go anymore. I even tried low dose accutane from October to January (20mg once a week) and only made my sebhorrea worse. Every day is a struggle to get up and function because I cant live like this. I need to find something that works..can anyone offer me any advise about why diet didnt help me at all? Also Sasch, where did you do your tests from?

Here are the supplments I take right now. Im not taking any fish oil as I found every time I took one I got a massive hive/welt on my jawline. I keep experimenting with this and it still happens...

Taking:

Multivitiamin

Zinc 50mg

Evening Primrose Oil (3x a day)

Vitamin A&D

Vitamin C

Vitamin E

B-Complex

1tsp of B6

[AutonomousOne1980]

as you mentioned in your signature, you take 5000iu vitamin d consider taking less vitamin d, taking it in pill form is not something we are accustomed to evolutionarily speaking, and may give you mild toxic effects, consider taking no more then 1000 iu per day.

you should also consider taking a magnesium supplement, read about its connection to blood sugar control and benefits for diabetics.

50mg of zinc in a supplement may be too much.

finally, acne and skin disease treatment by dermotologists is based on the knowledge we have of the important role of retinoic acid in skin health, hence all the classes of retinoids they have developed for this business, what most people do not know is the complete science on these substances are derived from carotenoids like beta carotene,lycopene etc. these are from fruits and vegetables. make sure you are getting them in your diet, everyday, not just twice a week.

[sasch12]

wicky, on 20 February 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

Im very interested in everything Sasch has said and done. I too have done many of the things she has and not had results. The only difference is I have done it for over a year now. Ive learned alot on this forum almost too much at times. It has consumed every waking moment of my life. I need to find a reason for why my skin does what it does. I have been to countless derms, spas, and naturopaths, allergists, and nutritionists. I have rosacea with very large pores. I have been treating my redness and veins with 3 Vbeam Lasers sessions..Its only helped slightly. I changed my diet in November of 2010 and rid myself of as many carbs as I could. No dairy, sweets,, or processed foods. I only ate meats, some fruits and veggies...I was basically starving myseld to rid myseld of the daily borage of red bumps and hive like welts that I would get. I have been journaling about my skin for 10+ years and still do not know what my skin needs or likes. I cannot find a cleanser or moisturizer that helps with the dryness but doesnt cause my chin to clog with thousands of mini clogs. I started noticing in the summer of 2010 that I was getting these weird red bumps that would show up mostly on the lower half of my face. I was determined to find a connection to food as the cause. I am still searching. I had an allergist do the typical skin pricking and blood draw but everything came back negative. I then found a food intolerance test online where you sent a hair sample and they determine thru your DNA what your intolerant to. Everything I thought I was allergic to like gluten or tomatoes (all based on my journaling) came back negative. What came back postive was everythiing I was eating in the way of good replacement foods to the crappy diet I was once consuming. I was eating hummus, eggs and limited oats to replace gluten and dressings and sauses. I was following a candida diet as I have developed sebhorreic dermatitis and found the only way to get rid of this was thru drastic diet changes. By now i have lost 40lbs and couldnt cut anything else out. I didnt know how accurate this hair sampling was but it was all I had to go on. Well everyone I've talked to since as said its bogus..Its similar to drug testing when they test your hair for different drugs in your system. Well thats what kind of happened to me.

So here I am over a year later still trying to figure out what breaks me out and why I have this rashyness on the side of my face for several months now despite being on a good diet. I do occasionally cheat and have an almond cookie (gluten free) but i cannot find living a life like this worth it. My naturopath wants me to have another allergy test which is $180 but its the IgG vs the one they do in the drs office which is IgA I believe. He says this the one in the drs office is for immediate reactions and they dont test for the delayed reactions. I just dont know what direction to go anymore. I even tried low dose accutane from October to January (20mg once a week) and only made my sebhorrea worse. Every day is a struggle to get up and function because I cant live like this. I need to find something that works..can anyone offer me any advise about why diet didnt help me at all? Also Sasch, where did you do your tests from?

Here are the supplments I take right now. Im not taking any fish oil as I found every time I took one I got a massive hive/welt on my jawline. I keep experimenting with this and it still happens...

Taking:

Multivitiamin

Zinc 50mg

Evening Primrose Oil (3x a day)

Vitamin A&D

Vitamin C

Vitamin E

B-Complex

1tsp of B6

Wicky i feel your frustration. I am finding out that pinpointing what the EXACT cause of our acne can be a long and treacherous road. I think that diet works for a lot of people but for others, it may not be the IT cause. I have been gluten, dairy free for almost 2 months and i've been off of eggs/oats/anything flagged on my allergy test for a few weeks. My naturopath recommends a detox with green powder and dandelion root (which i will be starting soon) and other supplements to help my stress level/adrenal gland.

I am not looking forward to this journey but i plan to put on a positive attitude, acknowledge when i feel like crap and see the glass as half full. Keep your head up Wicky - we can't lose hope. Feel free to message me whenever

AutonomousOne1980, on 20 February 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

as you mentioned in your signature, you take 5000iu vitamin d consider taking less vitamin d, taking it in pill form is not something we are accustomed to evolutionarily speaking, and may give you mild toxic effects, consider taking no more then 1000 iu per day.

you should also consider taking a magnesium supplement, read about its connection to blood sugar control and benefits for diabetics.

50mg of zinc in a supplement may be too much.

finally, acne and skin disease treatment by dermotologists is based on the knowledge we have of the important role of retinoic acid in skin health, hence all the classes of retinoids they have developed for this business, what most people do not know is the complete science on these substances are derived from carotenoids like beta carotene,lycopene etc. these are from fruits and vegetables. make sure you are getting them in your diet, everyday, not just twice a week.

Thanks for the advice. I tested low for Vit D, hence the high IU. I will also be starting magnesium soon. I am doing everything that i know of to help with acne. The best thing for me now is to keep a positive frame of mind and leave my body to do the rest.