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#21 DarkDragoon

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 09:15 PM

I really hope I don't grow moobs.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 09:45 PM

View PostDarkDragoon, on 23 January 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

I really hope I don't grow moobs.

Taken from webmd, there are claims that are not backed up from reliable sources about several side effects, which are breast tenderness, it will not grow moobs. Saw palmetto is LIKELY SAFE for most people. Side effects are usually mild. Some people have reported dizziness, headache, nausea, vomiting, constipation, and diarrhea. Some people have reported that saw palmetto causes impotence. But these side effects do not seem to occur any more often with saw palmetto than with a sugar pill.There is some concern that saw palmetto might cause liver or pancreas problems in some people. There have been two reports of liver damage and one report of pancreas damage in people who took saw palmetto. But there is not enough information to know if saw palmetto was the actual cause of these side effects.Special Precautions & Warnings:Pregnancy and breast-feeding: Saw palmetto is LIKELY UNSAFE when used during pregnancy or breast-feeding. It acts like a hormone, and this could be dangerous to the pregnancy. Don’t use during pregnancy or breast-feeding.Surgery: Saw palmetto might slow blood clotting. There is some concern that it might cause extra bleeding during and after surgery. Stop using saw palmetto at least 2 weeks before a scheduled surgery.

View PostDarkDragoon, on 23 January 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

I really hope I don't grow moobs.

Taken from webmd, there are claims that are not backed up from reliable sources about several side effects, which are breast tenderness, it will not grow moobs. Saw palmetto is LIKELY SAFE for most people. Side effects are usually mild. Some people have reported dizziness, headache, nausea, vomiting, constipation, and diarrhea. Some people have reported that saw palmetto causes impotence. But these side effects do not seem to occur any more often with saw palmetto than with a sugar pill.There is some concern that saw palmetto might cause liver or pancreas problems in some people. There have been two reports of liver damage and one report of pancreas damage in people who took saw palmetto. But there is not enough information to know if saw palmetto was the actual cause of these side effects.Special Precautions & Warnings:Pregnancy and breast-feeding: Saw palmetto is LIKELY UNSAFE when used during pregnancy or breast-feeding. It acts like a hormone, and this could be dangerous to the pregnancy. Don’t use during pregnancy or breast-feeding.Surgery: Saw palmetto might slow blood clotting. There is some concern that it might cause extra bleeding during and after surgery. Stop using saw palmetto at least 2 weeks before a scheduled surgery.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 09:55 PM

View Postbobbi364, on 23 January 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:

View PostDarkDragoon, on 23 January 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

I really hope I don't grow moobs.

Taken from webmd, there are claims that are not backed up from reliable sources about several side effects, which are breast tenderness, it will not grow moobs. Saw palmetto is LIKELY SAFE for most people. Side effects are usually mild. Some people have reported dizziness, headache, nausea, vomiting, constipation, and diarrhea. Some people have reported that saw palmetto causes impotence. But these side effects do not seem to occur any more often with saw palmetto than with a sugar pill.There is some concern that saw palmetto might cause liver or pancreas problems in some people. There have been two reports of liver damage and one report of pancreas damage in people who took saw palmetto. But there is not enough information to know if saw palmetto was the actual cause of these side effects.Special Precautions & Warnings:Pregnancy and breast-feeding: Saw palmetto is LIKELY UNSAFE when used during pregnancy or breast-feeding. It acts like a hormone, and this could be dangerous to the pregnancy. Don't use during pregnancy or breast-feeding.Surgery: Saw palmetto might slow blood clotting. There is some concern that it might cause extra bleeding during and after surgery. Stop using saw palmetto at least 2 weeks before a scheduled surgery.

View PostDarkDragoon, on 23 January 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

I really hope I don't grow moobs.

Taken from webmd, there are claims that are not backed up from reliable sources about several side effects, which are breast tenderness, it will not grow moobs. Saw palmetto is LIKELY SAFE for most people. Side effects are usually mild. Some people have reported dizziness, headache, nausea, vomiting, constipation, and diarrhea. Some people have reported that saw palmetto causes impotence. But these side effects do not seem to occur any more often with saw palmetto than with a sugar pill.There is some concern that saw palmetto might cause liver or pancreas problems in some people. There have been two reports of liver damage and one report of pancreas damage in people who took saw palmetto. But there is not enough information to know if saw palmetto was the actual cause of these side effects.Special Precautions & Warnings:Pregnancy and breast-feeding: Saw palmetto is LIKELY UNSAFE when used during pregnancy or breast-feeding. It acts like a hormone, and this could be dangerous to the pregnancy. Don't use during pregnancy or breast-feeding.Surgery: Saw palmetto might slow blood clotting. There is some concern that it might cause extra bleeding during and after surgery. Stop using saw palmetto at least 2 weeks before a scheduled surgery.

It's from webmd so you kno 'moobs' is a legit word~

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 11:17 PM

yea, umm, just get a little bit, it may or may not help you out. dont go taking supplements or anything, or megadosing.
our bodys need alot more then omega 3 to run correctly. im sure the threads you read have overemphasized the importance of omega 3. its not as important as something like calcium and phosphourus or magnesium, those minerals play so many huge roles in the body.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 11:58 AM

the word moobs was written by me, not WebMD, dont be silly

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 03:01 PM

LOL...

but seriously i did get a bigger one from taking saw palmetto.. i had to quit cause i was going up in pants sizes..Posted Image

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 08:31 PM

I'll spare too much background and just say that I know DHT is most of my problem...terrible cystic acne and hair loss began at the same time and have persisted. It's like all of a sudden, at 20.5 years old, something turned on in my body and told it to make more testosterone (though a hormone panel said my testosterone is normal), convert more testosterone, or be more sensitive to DHT! I'm coming up on a year since my hair and skin went so downhill, and while my hair looks okay, I've still got the red scars on my face and receding hairline to prove it...

I decided to try and inhibit DHT with 320mg of saw palmetto a day. My hair chilled out a little bit and I saw fast, dramatic improvement in my skin. (Also, my boobs increased a full cup size, which was a lot of fun I will say.) I was very happy, even though I was gaining some weight.

But about 3.5 weeks in, I was noticing that my mind felt really cloudy. It is hard to explain, but I totally understand what it means to have brain fog now. I have never felt so out of sorts. After 4 weeks, I went off the saw palmetto (and sadly, my boobs are back to normal).

It's been proposed by some that inhibiting 5-alpha reductase (type I or II or both, I'm not sure) may impair cognition. I sure can't explain specifics, but 5-AR and DHT do have a role in cognitive processing. So it appears that some people, what percent I sure can't say, may experience this god-awful brain fog from inhibiting 5-AR. Some men who've taken Propecia for male pattern baldness have complained of fogginess.

Mine subsided once I stopped taking the saw palmetto, but sometimes I feel like I'm still not as sharp as I should be.

Just wanted to share my experience. I'm looking deeper into the connection between diet and acne now (reading The Clear Skin Diet), and hopefully through eating and eliminating the right things and supplementation I can improve my situation.




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