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[Natalie5511]

Hi in this picture these are fairly new indentations on my right cheek caused by another breakout " sign" the rest of my face is covered also in ice picks/boxcar scars on my left side this is actually mild compared to the rest of my face as it has a bit of clear not scarred skin around it, not sure if the picture does it any justice, i have tried A LOT to treat my other scars based on my financial situation, dermarolling worked on a few scars making them fairly shallower over a matter of months however it also created some more! maybe a slightly blunt/out of shape needle i'm not sure but it was deffo the dermaroller!! i have done a skin culture peel 4000 which actually really diminished a few and also made them shallower and less red, even ridding the most shallowest of pock marks! massaging the area three times a day, ipl which again did take away some of the redness....But these new ones are slightly more stubborn nothing seems to take away the redness or even the illusion of making them appear softer, i could cope with some scars but when my face is covered in them and last year i had perfect skin its well just damm depressing...i wish i could stop obsessing and just get on with it but i cant seem to get it out of my head i have good and bad days..positive/negitive/positive/negative... even last year when i had a few spots id think my skin was awful ohhh if only i could go back to that time and kick my ass for thinking it when there was nothing wrong..i totally overused soaps/cleansers and st ives exfoilaters i think that greatly contributed to my break, but i just want to feel comfortable in my own skin again, also i used bp regime on my skin to rid my spots but the areas i used it on have pock marks now, so i'm very cautious of trying things but yet i feel i have to, grrr what would be the best option for getting rid of this ? Thanks in advance

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Edited by Natalie5511, 02 February 2012 - 01:04 PM.

[Chelsea87]

I think benzoyl peroxide is not such a great product for acne. Sure it will clear
U up at first my skin didn't break out for a good two to three years
After starting proactiv and I thought it was a godsend but.....the summer when I turned20
Poof all of a sudden I had the worst breakout of cystic acne you could ever see
Both my lower cheeks were covered in cysts they went away after a couple months
But now I'm left with ice pick and boxcar scarring. A couple of years ago I had
Laser treatment with a palomar laser that did absolutly nothing terrible I even think
It caused some ice pick scarring on me. Then I tried injections with microdroplet silicone
I thought it looked a little better and was happy but looking at my skin lately I realized
I'm still scarred I'm so frusterated but I am looking into punch grafting or excisions
As. My next thing to try .look for surgons in your area that perform punch techniques that
Would be your best bet.

[DRaGZ]

Chelsea87, on 11 January 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

I think benzoyl peroxide is not such a great product for acne. Sure it will clear
U up at first my skin didn't break out for a good two to three years
After starting proactiv and I thought it was a godsend but.....the summer when I turned20
Poof all of a sudden I had the worst breakout of cystic acne you could ever see
Both my lower cheeks were covered in cysts they went away after a couple months
But now I'm left with ice pick and boxcar scarring. A couple of years ago I had
Laser treatment with a palomar laser that did absolutly nothing terrible I even think
It caused some ice pick scarring on me. Then I tried injections with microdroplet silicone
I thought it looked a little better and was happy but looking at my skin lately I realized
I'm still scarred I'm so frusterated but I am looking into punch grafting or excisions
As. My next thing to try .look for surgons in your area that perform punch techniques that
Would be your best bet.

Wow...that's just...terrible misinformation.

BP has been long proven to be an effective treatment for treating active acne. Perhaps you didn't keep up the regiment, perhaps some environmental factors exacerbated the acne afterward.

As for the other things you talked about, anecdotal evidence does not helpfully contribute towards a larger understanding of how to treat acne scars.

Natalie5511, on 04 January 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

Hi in this picture these are fairly new indentations on my right cheek caused by another breakout " sign" the rest of my face is covered also in ice picks/boxcar scars on my left side this is actually mild compared to the rest of my face as it has a bit of clear not scarred skin around it, not sure if the picture does it any justice, ive tried ALOT to treat my other scars based on my finacial situation, dermarolling worked on a few scars making them fairly shallower over a matter of months however it also created some more! maybe a slightly blunt/out of shape needle im not sure but it was deffo the dermaroller!! ive done a skin culture peel 4000 which actually really diminished a few and also made them shallower and less red, even ridding the most shallowest of pock marks! massaging the area three times a day, ipl which again did take away some of the redness....But these new ones are slightly more stubborn nothing seems to take away the redness or even the illusion of making them appear softer, i could cope with some scars but when my face is covered in them and last year i had perfect skin its well just damm depressing...i wish i could stop obsessing and just get on with it but i cant seem to get it out of my head i have good and bad days..positive/negitive/positive/negative... even last year when i had a few spots id think my skin was awfull ohhh if only i could go back to that time and kick my ass for thinking it when there was nothing wrong..i totally overused soaps/cleansers and st ives exfoilaters i think that greatly contributed to my break out and also loosing my brother in afghan didnt help maybe stress/upset/lack of sleep im not sure, but i just want to feel comfortable in my own skin again, also i used bp regime on my skin to rid my spots but the areas i used it on have pock marks now, so im very cautious of trying things but yet i feel i have to, grrr what would be the best option for getting rid of this ? Thanks in advance

We cannot tell you this because we are not licensed dermatologists or plastic surgeons.

I would suggest you go visit a dermatologist and ask for his/her opinion. Our suggestions would simply be shooting in the breeze.

Also be aware that different doctors have different opinions, even on what they believe to be fundamental standards.

[Chelsea87]

Um my information wasn't far off regarding benzoyl peroxide
I used it for years under the assumption it would always keep me clear!!!
Wrong ! First of all benzoyl peroxide is very bad to use on your skin long term
It makes you hundreds of chances more likely to get not only skin tumors
But skin cancer and that's with sunscreen it increases free radical production and
Decreases moisture levels two things that lead to premature aging. If she is stll having
Active breakouts she look into accutane . And then look into punch excisions and
Punch grafting with laser for her scars.

[DRaGZ]

Chelsea87, on 11 January 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Um my information wasn't far off regarding benzoyl peroxide
I used it for years under the assumption it would always keep me clear!!!
Wrong ! First of all benzoyl peroxide is very bad to use on your skin long term
It makes you hundreds of chances more likely to get not only skin tumors
But skin cancer and that's with sunscreen it increases free radical production and
Decreases moisture levels two things that lead to premature aging. If she is stll having
Active breakouts she look into accutane . And then look into punch excisions and
Punch grafting with laser for her scars.

There is absolutely, positively no research that suggests that topical application of OTC or prescription-strength benzoyl peroxide can lead to any form of cancer. That is blatant misinformation, and I wish you would not try confusing people that way.

Benzoyl peroxide works by killing the acne bacteria that settles into your pores and causes outbreaks. It does not work if you, for some reason or another, exacerbated the situation by applying something that clogged your pores or added more bacteria to your face (e.g. you kept touching it, a helmet strap kept rubbing up against it, etc.)

BP also does not work for everyone, that is also a well-documented trend. But it's also well-documented that it's an extremely effective topical treatment for acne outbreaks.

Please, stop spreading misinformation, there's enough of that out there, and it does not help when people start posting anecdotal evidence as though it supercedes years and years of well-documented research.

Additionally, given your blatant lack of qualification, I suggest you don't give more treatment advice. Nobody here on this message board is qualified to give advice on how to treat acne scars, the best we can do is post stories on what did and didn't work for us, personally.

Again, to the OP, I strongly suggest you talk to a board-certified dermatologist or plastic surgeon.

Edited by DRaGZ, 11 January 2012 - 06:04 PM.

[Natalie5511]

If only it was that easy, i have been tomu doctors numerous times and asked him to refer me to a dermatologist in my area he has not done so after so long of trying, and i also saw different doctors! I understand where they are coming from "ive seen worse " still its not the point, i should have a right as much as others! I live on a island with only one way in/out so id have to travel to get any sort of treatment done even the most simple they dont even do anysort of facial peels where i am, im not in a situation where i can blow all my wages on treatment at the moment so until then im trying to get an idea of what may have worked/or made it worse that is similar to this, i understand obviously a dermatologist would know best but in my situation im unable to get one at moment so im asking for views of people who know best the " acne sufferers" , also in regards to chelsea's post i agree to an extent i feel that bp did clear my skin, but for a price of prolonged redness and higly sensitive so even the smallest spot left indents also i seem to have developed a few faint lines from use but saying that i did highly overuse it in my imparience on some areas, so that could be it....i did used to squeeze the crap outta spots last yr befor i used bp and befor they were that bad and never once did i get a scar!

Sorry for the spelling mistakes on my iphone sneakily at work

[Natalie5511]

Just started a muac tca 12.5 today on that exact area with the indentations ill post pictures in a few days.. i took a few once the tca was on and it " frosted " and ill do some of the peeling process and end result, Ive heard some good things about this so i hope it takes away some of the redness and maybe makes them appear softer.

[DRaGZ]

Natalie5511, on 12 January 2012 - 03:16 AM, said:

If only it was that easy, i have been tomu doctors numerous times and asked him to refer me to a dermatologist in my area he has not done so after so long of trying, and i also saw different doctors! I understand where they are coming from "ive seen worse " still its not the point, i should have a right as much as others! I live on a island with only one way in/out so id have to travel to get any sort of treatment done even the most simple they dont even do anysort of facial peels where i am, im not in a situation where i can blow all my wages on treatment at the moment so until then im trying to get an idea of what may have worked/or made it worse that is similar to this, i understand obviously a dermatologist would know best but in my situation im unable to get one at moment so im asking for views of people who know best the " acne sufferers" , also in regards to chelsea's post i agree to an extent i feel that bp did clear my skin, but for a price of prolonged redness and higly sensitive so even the smallest spot left indents also i seem to have developed a few faint lines from use but saying that i did highly overuse it in my imparience on some areas, so that could be it....i did used to squeeze the crap outta spots last yr befor i used bp and befor they were that bad and never once did i get a scar!

Sorry for the spelling mistakes on my iphone sneakily at work

If you can afford it, don't wait for a referral and just go directly to a dermatologist. If they have a competent enough staff, they'll wrangle up the necessary documentation to get your insurance to cover further visits. If you don't have insurance that will cover it anyway, then just go see a dermatologist, waiting for a referral is only so you can get coverage.

[Natalie5511]

Well i did my MUAC TCA peel 12.5 and i gotta say it is fantastic it has certainly got rid of most redness in the indents and for sure shallowed them even further and smoothed them out its crazy how fantastic it has worked, its nearly 3 weeks ago since i did this and it looks better than ever, i'm going to continue to do a few more spaced out a month or so to continue the improvement!!! Just updated a few pics

[mrjarjarbinks77]

Natalie, let the acne pass, get your skin tone and complexion better, and if you feel the desire to get scar treatment, do so but, I don't think you need anything for it. It really isn't bad. As a guy, I wouldn't even notice it.

[rachyon]

I am so happy for you! I really can see a lot improvements on the indentations. I have pretty much the same skin as yours,you give me so much hope.Please keep us updated!

[Natalie5511]

Hi raychon, the indentations have pretty much gone now i have to say! ive have done 2x tca peels on them got a good frost so nice peel, then for the last 2 months ive been applying a skin culture 4000 spot peel on the indentations and them only not the surrounding skin! its given texture back and took away browness/redness and its amazing how shallow they are, they are noticible in certain angles and lighting but im so happy with the improvement 95% gone, ill post a picture this week to compare,  I pretty much avoid the sun at the moment and have for months unless its out to work cos of all the peels and have neutrogena 100 spf ! Lol better to be safe right. Im just fortunate that they were not to deep! What have you been using ? Are yous scattered all over or in just one area?  

[rachyon]

Natalie5511, on 24 April 2012 - 04:53 AM, said:

Hi raychon, the indentations have pretty much gone now i have to say! ive have done 2x tca peels on them got a good frost so nice peel, then for the last 2 months ive been applying a skin culture 4000 spot peel on the indentations and them only not the surrounding skin! its given texture back and took away browness/redness and its amazing how shallow they are, they are noticible in certain angles and lighting but im so happy with the improvement 95% gone, ill post a picture this week to compare, I pretty much avoid the sun at the moment and have for months unless its out to work cos of all the peels and have neutrogena 100 spf ! Lol better to be safe right. Im just fortunate that they were not to deep! What have you been using ? Are yous scattered all over or in just one area?

I have scars all over my cheeks and temples, they are ice picks,some rollings most of them are boxcars. They are not very deep but countless tiny holes...You can see my pics in my gallery,I took some pics of my scars under the harsh light, when I get the chance I will post them up.
Did you put the same amount on both indents and the whole face?Thanks in advance and great results!!! I have been off from accutane almost 2 months, but got to wait longer to try TCA peel.

Edited by rachyon, 24 April 2012 - 03:11 PM.

[myskin2012]

rachyon, on 24 April 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

Natalie5511, on 24 April 2012 - 04:53 AM, said:

Hi raychon, the indentations have pretty much gone now i have to say! ive have done 2x tca peels on them got a good frost so nice peel, then for the last 2 months ive been applying a skin culture 4000 spot peel on the indentations and them only not the surrounding skin! its given texture back and took away browness/redness and its amazing how shallow they are, they are noticible in certain angles and lighting but im so happy with the improvement 95% gone, ill post a picture this week to compare, I pretty much avoid the sun at the moment and have for months unless its out to work cos of all the peels and have neutrogena 100 spf ! Lol better to be safe right. Im just fortunate that they were not to deep! What have you been using ? Are yous scattered all over or in just one area?

I have scars all over my cheeks and temples, they are ice picks,some rollings most of them are boxcars. They are not very deep but countless tiny holes...You can see my pics in my gallery,I took some pics of my scars under the harsh light, when I get the chance I will post them up.
Did you put the same amount on both indents and the whole face?Thanks in advance and great results!!! I have been off from accutane almost 2 months, but got to wait longer to try TCA peel.

...wait 4 more months, then maybe you can start doing mild peel, or retin-a to reduce your hyper-pigmentation...mean while gently exfoliate your skin and apply a good amount of moisturizer...take zinc and vitamin to heal your skin...good luck =)

Edited by myskin2012, 24 April 2012 - 05:07 PM.

[rachyon]

myskin2012, on 24 April 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

rachyon, on 24 April 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

Natalie5511, on 24 April 2012 - 04:53 AM, said:

Hi raychon, the indentations have pretty much gone now i have to say! ive have done 2x tca peels on them got a good frost so nice peel, then for the last 2 months ive been applying a skin culture 4000 spot peel on the indentations and them only not the surrounding skin! its given texture back and took away browness/redness and its amazing how shallow they are, they are noticible in certain angles and lighting but im so happy with the improvement 95% gone, ill post a picture this week to compare, I pretty much avoid the sun at the moment and have for months unless its out to work cos of all the peels and have neutrogena 100 spf ! Lol better to be safe right. Im just fortunate that they were not to deep! What have you been using ? Are yous scattered all over or in just one area?

I have scars all over my cheeks and temples, they are ice picks,some rollings most of them are boxcars. They are not very deep but countless tiny holes...You can see my pics in my gallery,I took some pics of my scars under the harsh light, when I get the chance I will post them up.
Did you put the same amount on both indents and the whole face?Thanks in advance and great results!!! I have been off from accutane almost 2 months, but got to wait longer to try TCA peel.

...wait 4 more months, then maybe you can start doing mild peel, or retin-a to reduce your hyper-pigmentation...mean while gently exfoliate your skin and apply a good amount of moisturizer...take zinc and vitamin to heal your skin...good luck =)

Thank you. Some people say 1 year, MUAC website says don't do TCA if I have used Accutane for past 24 months....that's just too long...

scars even with make up powder

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scars even with make up powder

Album: Scars

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Natalie,I took those pictures this week, the light is bit harsh so you can see the scars. Those are even with the make up Tons of red marks with scars...
How deep are your scars? I could tell yours are similar to mine but not so sure, will TCA peel help my scars as much as like you did to yours? thank you.

[acnescars1312]

Try visiting a dermatologist. it will be more effective.

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Edited by acnescars1312, 24 April 2012 - 11:21 PM.