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[Philip Ridley]

Indeed, many allergies, acne, things like that, begin at the gut level. Personally, my acne came from lactose intolerance, which I resolved with raw milk, because it provides the probiotics and enzymes the body needs to digest lactose. Others who have worse guts than me may need to completely cut out dairy and move towards the full GAPS diet initially. Natasha explains how you can slowly introduce dairy. For example, she begins with ghee and then introduces fermented milk like kefir.

The initial part of the diet is restrictive, but that is a detox period where the gut and your good bacteria are restored. As you work your way along the diet, more and more foods are introduced. Even if you do not go down the full GAPS diet, you can always introduce aspects of it one by one and you should experience major improvements.

At the end, most foods can be consumed, but you can never return to highly processed, refined foods for prolonged periods. This is about wholefoods consumed in the traditional manner, which our bodies are capable of processing correctly.

For more on traditional diets, I'll post yet another video for you!

Edited by Philip Ridley, 25 November 2011 - 06:22 AM.

[myheartsholistic]

Philip Ridley, on 25 November 2011 - 06:21 AM, said:

Indeed, many allergies, acne, things like that, begin at the gut level. Personally, my acne came from lactose intolerance, which I resolved with raw milk, because it provides the probiotics and enzymes the body needs to digest lactose. Others who have worse guts than me may need to completely cut out dairy and move towards the full GAPS diet initially. Natasha explains how you can slowly introduce dairy. For example, she begins with ghee and then introduces fermented milk like kefir.

The initial part of the diet is restrictive, but that is a detox period where the gut and your good bacteria are restored. As you work your way along the diet, more and more foods are introduced. Even if you do not go down the full GAPS diet, you can always introduce aspects of it one by one and you should experience major improvements.

At the end, most foods can be consumed, but you can never return to highly processed, refined foods for prolonged periods. This is about wholefoods consumed in the traditional manner, which our bodies are capable of processing correctly.

For more on traditional diets, I'll post yet another video for you!

Well said.

[tim12]

Really interesting thread! I've decided to make my own bone/meat broth for the first time, it's going to be a grueling 6 hour wait to try it out What's this about microwaves destroying foods though, anyone have credible proof of this?

[moonbase]

I haven't watched the vids, I dont imagine it contains much I dont already know.. i've exhausted the WAPF research long ago. But my perspective on microwavesd is that they do not heat evenly, and to fully heat something parts will become over heater and over cooking is known to destroy many beneficial compound. Some people get a little loopy on it being cancer causing etc etc. but I like to keep it simple. With that said, I dont use microwaves.

Edited by moonbase, 25 November 2011 - 04:00 PM.

[dejaclairevoyant]

Yeah I haven't had a microwave since 2007 or so... I thought going without one would be this big inconvenience but I barely even noticed the difference. It really doesn't take any longer to re-heat something on the stove verses the microwave. You only really miss out on microwave dinners and crap like that which is stuff we shouldn't be eating anyway.

[tim12]

I see I see, I find that I don't use a microwave much mostly because the food doesn't taste good The chicken broth turned out pretty awesome, didn't have as much bones as I would have liked, but it was a fair amount of joint/bones. Adding in a bunch of eggs to the bowl of broth made it somewhat like egg drop soup, one of my favorite Chinese dishes. I'm more of a beef kinda guy, so I'll ask my co-op butcher if they have joints & bones etc. It'd be really fun to try and make a GAPS/Paleo inspired Pho broth, gotta do some research on the ingredients!

Edited by tim12, 26 November 2011 - 03:29 PM.

[Tunnelvisionary]

I finally got around to watching these videos and they were very enlightening to say the least. They mesh in pretty well with your recommendations moonbase, yet I noticed the doctor in your video did believe in candida. I thought that was interesting.

Anyway, it gave me a lot of good information about the importance of gut health, how useless the government recommendations are, and how they are based off getting profits for farmers rather than actual science. The principles of healthy eating in traditional diets were also really interesting to learn about. It's amazing that all these diets were so different (indicating that there isn't just one way to heal yourself with diet). Yet there were unifying principles among them.

The effects of eating right, especially early on, were astounding. I always wondered how humanity has survived throughout the ages, because it seems like people were ALWAYS dying off of some disease, or things like tooth decay. I had impacted wisdom teeth, which is apparently common nowadays, and I thought, how could mother nature be so careless as to give us all impacted teeth? How could we ever manage ourselves with that kind of burden as cavemen? That would be so painful. But the people in the video all had straight, white teeth and enough room for them to grow. They all looked so happy. Then they compared it to their modern counterparts, who started eating more "civilized" foods and the differences were unbelievable. They looked so unhealthy, and in so much pain from their suboptimal diet. The American woman from the 1930's looked so healthy, happy, and beautiful...naturally. She looked like a model without using things like makeup or fancy clothes.

Come to think of it, my cousins in Pakistan all exhibit these features too. No orthodontistry, dentistry, the don't shower every single day, yet they have straight, white teeth, great skin, they smelled 'different' but not awful.

I remember learning about how some people in Europe didn't bathe except for one day of the year (in the middle ages!). Everyone used to think that that was so nasty, and they probably smelled so bad, and were so gross looking. How did these people even look at each other? They must have been filthy. Well, even now, I still think a year without a bath is too long, but maybe they were kept cleaner than we thought thanks to their diet. Maybe in today's society if someone didn't take a shower for a year, they would be in terrible condition.

But I digress. With the right diet, it seems things like orthodontists, optometrists, and doctors are not nearly as necessary as they are today. Which scares me a little, considering that's the career path I'm on right now...

It seems that a vast majority of our issues can be healed with good gut health. Since switching my diet, when I got 'sick' like usual when the weather starts to change, I didn't get a fever and it was extremely mild. The resulting runny nose which usually lasts for 4-5 days afterward is starting to disappear in 2 days.

So much interesting information, now that I'm on break I have more time to research and finally have time to really make significant dietary changes on top of the ones i've already made!

Edited by Tunnelvisionary, 14 December 2011 - 12:15 PM.

[limpbizkitfan]

Can I do this diet if im gonna have surgery soon? I'm going to be on pain killers and under anesthesia for a few hours and this diet says no to drugs but the surgery is medically neccessary, so what do I do?!!! Is my acne just gonna be here forever?

[dejaclairevoyant]

Of course you can... Why would you not be able to do any certain diet and have surgery?

[Tunnelvisionary]

Why be in a hurry to start it? I wouldn't recommend simply jumping into the intro diet, because it's very strict and intensive in the intro, which can last from a few days, to months depending on the severity of the condition. Being that your problem is most likely acne caused by intolerance and mildish digestion problems (MAYBE, I'm not a pro at this stuff yet) the intro diet woud probably be on the scale of a few days to a few weeks.

I say, don't worry about going on any specific diet, like GAPS until you're healed and you've really researched this stuff. In the meantime, just relax before your surgery. There's nothing wrong with taking medicines when you really need them. You're not going to have acne forever, unless you're the type of person that doesn't really like to read posts and instead wants to complain (because there are actually a few of those types of people around here )

Gradually introduce different aspects of this diet (or any diet) step by step, one by one, while still eating what you normally eat.

[limpbizkitfan]

Thanks!! I guess I need to research more about this diet but it seems really similar to paleo...i dont think it's restrictive since you get to eat meat and soup

[alexisc]

Really interesting ideas here! I watched the first video on "Gut and Psychology Syndrome" and it definitely meshed with some of the health problems I have been dealing with throughout my life. A few months ago I developed severe daily migraines and ear pain as well as vertigo and other symptoms. One of the main things I read for migraine was to start an elimination diet to see if certain foods are the cause. It's pretty similar to a GAPS diet. My acne had started coming back since my last round of Accutane a year ago and what I noticed is that on this diet my skin stayed clear! I do take preventative medication for my migraines but I still get them if I cheat on the diet. If I stick to the diet though, I live migraine/pain-free as well as acne free.

I think it takes a long time to heal your gut depending on how damaged it is. For myself, I have taken way too many rounds of antibiotics in my lifetime (not for acne though, other health issues.) Now that I have been paying close attention to what I'm eating it's actually shocking to see how much we are destroying ourselves as a human race by what is considered "normal" food. People think I'm a fanatic and a nut for eating as healthy as I have been for the past few months, but I've already started to notice changes in my energy levels and mood to name a few. I need to add in probiotics slowly and have also been taking oil of oregano as an anti-fungal.

People are going to need to start changing their diets and lifestyles soon because we are killing ourselves! One thing in the video that really clicked with me was how fast anything you put on the skin is absorbed into the bloodstream. Coconut oil or tamanu oil are great moisturizers, yet society tells us we should go spend $60 on the new "it" cream to make our problems go away. And it is filled with damaging chemicals that are just going to make our problems worse. When you go to the grocery store and start reading labels it is overwhelming. Everything has genetically modified corn syrup or corn starch, sugars, msg etc.

I think people need to (and lot's are starting to) wake up and start questioning the lies we have been told by society on what is considered "normal." I have no problems being looked at as a fanatic if I live a long, happy and healthy life. And I think all of these solutions are only going to become more mainstream as time goes on. Eat healthy, address health issues naturally, use natural beautifying things provided by nature, and think positively.

[Tunnelvisionary]

alexisc, on 22 January 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

I think it takes a long time to heal your gut depending on how damaged it is. For myself, I have taken way too many rounds of antibiotics in my lifetime (not for acne though, other health issues.) Now that I have been paying close attention to what I'm eating it's actually shocking to see how much we are destroying ourselves as a human race by what is considered "normal" food. People think I'm a fanatic and a nut for eating as healthy as I have been for the past few months, but I've already started to notice changes in my energy levels and mood to name a few. I need to add in probiotics slowly and have also been taking oil of oregano as an anti-fungal.

People are going to need to start changing their diets and lifestyles soon because we are killing ourselves! One thing in the video that really clicked with me was how fast anything you put on the skin is absorbed into the bloodstream. Coconut oil or tamanu oil are great moisturizers, yet society tells us we should go spend $60 on the new "it" cream to make our problems go away. And it is filled with damaging chemicals that are just going to make our problems worse. When you go to the grocery store and start reading labels it is overwhelming. Everything has genetically modified corn syrup or corn starch, sugars, msg etc.

I think people need to (and lot's are starting to) wake up and start questioning the lies we have been told by society on what is considered "normal." I have no problems being looked at as a fanatic if I live a long, happy and healthy life. And I think all of these solutions are only going to become more mainstream as time goes on. Eat healthy, address health issues naturally, use natural beautifying things provided by nature, and think positively.

Agreed completely with the bolded part. I thought I was being weird until I realized that eating most packaged, processed foods, no matter how many buzzwords are written on the front aren't as healthy as a diet of whole foods, where you know there aren't any crazy additives or preservatives. That stuff really accumulates over time.

Yeah, I think no matter how much big companies may try to paint the picture that you can only live normal lives with their products, people are going to get sick of that, and they're going to look for better alternatives. Then they'll end up surprised, just like I was...after all, who knew that eating real food was good for you?

[Paul25]

I haven't had a chance to watch the videos or give the site a thorough look through yet but i was just wondering what is the reason for keeping fruit out of the diet for a few weeks in the introduction stage? I have terrible digestion and im always eating fruit so i dont know if it is causing me issues. Ive always felt as if fruit is easy to digest so that is why i have always eaten lots of it.

[alexisc]

So I watched the other two videos on primitive diets and then nutrition and all I can say is wow! Thank you so much for posting, I really needed to hear that information. My view on nutrition seems to be evolving quite a bit these days. I'm a vegetarian and have been for 10 years, I don't eat fish or meat and have been avoiding most dairy other than cheese and eggs. I am not getting many nutrients that I need for complete digestion and even though my skin is clear my migraines seem to be even more sensitive to additives than usual.

I'm going to start adding in butter and animal fats as much as a I can. It really bothers me to eat meat but I will make soups from the bones and have never had a problem with eating gravy. Like my Mom has been saying to me for years, animal products really are essential to proper nutrition and digestion because we don't get b12 from anything else and they are good sources of vitamin a and vitamin d. They are also easier to digest than plant products. I'm also going to start fermenting some of my own food to aid the probiotics in establishing healthy bacteria in the gut.

I guess in the end I am thankful that I developed acne, because without it I never would have reached this point in my life where I understand what it actually means to be healthy in this day and age. I never would have spent the time researching health because of my own vanity in wanting perfect clear skin. I have searched and searched for answers and have finally found solid solutions to my health problems. I just can't believe how deluded dermatologists and doctors are, they need to start giving people the right answers, not a pill or cream to make their symptoms go away. Symptoms happen for a reason, they are telling you there is an imbalance in your body and something is wrong.

[Tunnelvisionary]

Paul25, on 23 January 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

I haven't had a chance to watch the videos or give the site a thorough look through yet but i was just wondering what is the reason for keeping fruit out of the diet for a few weeks in the introduction stage? I have terrible digestion and im always eating fruit so i dont know if it is causing me issues. Ive always felt as if fruit is easy to digest so that is why i have always eaten lots of it.

If I recall correctly, fruit is kept out while the gut environment is being healed in the intro diet to keep the undesirable microbes from reproducing too much. Combining fruit with normal meals full of proteins and fats isn't desirable for someone with a sensitive system either, because the methods of digesting carbs and the methods of digesting fat are different. The diet adds fruit back in as a daily snack after the intro I believe.

Also, does anyone know where moonbase went? It's been a long time, he was supposed to update his other thread, but then he disappeared.

Edited by Tunnelvisionary, 23 January 2012 - 07:58 PM.