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[moonbase]

Foreword: As i've been clammering that your acne is due to damaged body (the gut) and what you need to eat is food that is easy to digest to fix your body from the inside out. I know a WAPF chapter lead personally and she was talking to someone at her shop about the GAPS diet - and this intrigued me so I started reading into it and wow - this doctor really knows what she's talking about. Anyone who wants a cure for there problems should definitely look into this diet. Not just the "allowed foods list" but to actually order the book and follow each stage. This is by far the most health restorative diet i've ever come across.


With that said - anyone with persistent acne, and other issues should check this out. This diet has healed many "incurable illnesses".



First, watch this:


Then take a looks at this:
http://gapsdiet.com/


Hippocrates: "All disease begins in the gut"

Edited by moonbase, 08 November 2011 - 09:26 AM.

[Elvin83]

The Gapsdiet are pretty much like the Candida diet, except it includes fruit, though only as a snack and not a meal.

It differs from your high fruit, low fat diet quite a bit.

I am a bit confused, which one do you recommend?

Elvin

[captainsunshine]

Elvin83, on 08 November 2011 - 10:50 AM, said:

I am a bit confused, which one do you recommend?

The Paleo Diet.

[dejaclairevoyant]

I tried that but never made it past the first stage. It was how i leaned that I have a reaction to any sort of meat broth or stock.

[moonbase]

Elvin83, on 08 November 2011 - 10:50 AM, said:

The Gapsdiet are pretty much like the Candida diet, except it includes fruit, though only as a snack and not a meal.

It differs from your high fruit, low fat diet quite a bit.

I am a bit confused, which one do you recommend?

Elvin

This is worlds different than the candida diet. The candida diet is hogwash and usually makes people worse of. This is for information purposes - if people are interested (Which you should be). This has a lot in common with my diet - easily digestible food. I am in the progress (i'll finish it sometime) of reworking my post with more details (the essentials will be staying the same) - just a little more logical in thought.


Yes Paleo is what I recommend - though paleo has been assumed to be high fat, but paleo is just avoiding modern foods (last 10k years).




@Deja - Did you make your own bone broth from scratch?

[borie88]

I totally agree with this diet, but it has stopped working for me ever since I got my appendix out and was on antibiotics last year. I guess the appendix is supposed to repopulate the gut when it is cleared due to diarrhea and other conditions, making that even worse. I have read about some people clearing out their whole digestive tract of bacteria with an antibiotic called rifaximin, which does not enter the system. Could this work if I took probiotics after the antibiotic intervention? I have also heard of fecal transplants, but that is pretty gross, so I would rather do the antibiotics.

[myheartsholistic]

moonbase, on 08 November 2011 - 09:15 AM, said:

Foreword: As i've been clammering that your acne is due to damaged body (the gut) and what you need to eat is food that is easy to digest to fix your body from the inside out. I know a WAPF chapter lead personally and she was talking to someone at her shop about the GAPS diet - and this intrigued me so I started reading into it and wow - this doctor really knows what she's talking about. Anyone who wants a cure for there problems should definitely look into this diet. Not just the "allowed foods list" but to actually order the book and follow each stage. This is by far the most health restorative diet i've ever come across.


With that said - anyone with persistent acne, and other issues should check this out. This diet has healed many "incurable illnesses".



First, watch this:


Then take a looks at this:
http://gapsdiet.com/


Hippocrates: "All disease begins in the gut"

Hello Moonbeam! This is what I have been saying in like every post! LOL
I have been following the GAPS/SCD diet protocol for some time now. I told you it goes into extensively about the starches as well. It is scientifically backed.

captainsunshine, on 08 November 2011 - 10:58 AM, said:

Elvin83, on 08 November 2011 - 10:50 AM, said:

I am a bit confused, which one do you recommend?

The Paleo Diet.

The GAPS DIET is VERY VERY close to the PALEO diet. I follow the GAPS diet yet use many Paleo cookbooks, the only differences are very minor such as chocolate and cocoa are allowed on paleo and they are not on GAPS as well as certain starches are not allowed such as sweet potatoes/yucca etc. Otherwise they are pretty much similar.

If the GAPS diet seems to difficult for the intro diet (the mainly soup broth stage) you can start at FULL GAPS (which is basically Paleo esq) except a few more restrictions. You can still have fruit, veggies, meat, honey, coconut flour, almond flour etc.

[moonbase]

Gaps is one way to do it, but certainly not the only way. I believe this is a solid system but very extreme. Acne isn't autism... In my many many thousands of hours of study have came to the conclusion that different things work for different reasons. A lot of it ties to blood sugar regulation as I made in my flagship post. Once you regain that everything gets easier.

Bottom line: You think there is only one way to do everything.... When you fully understand the system from different perspectives you realize things are not quite as straight forward and "simple" as you once thought.

Edited by moonbase, 23 November 2011 - 11:32 AM.

[myheartsholistic]

DejaClaireVoyant, on 08 November 2011 - 10:59 AM, said:

I tried that but never made it past the first stage. It was how i leaned that I have a reaction to any sort of meat broth or stock.

Meat broths are very healing, you most likely had a detox reaction. You have to use homemade broths.

moonbase, on 23 November 2011 - 11:31 AM, said:

Gaps is one way to do it, but certainly not the only way. I believe this is a solid system but very extreme. Acne isn't autism... In my many many thousands of hours of study have came to the conclusion that different things work for different reasons. A lot of it ties to blood sugar regulation as I made in my flagship post. Once you regain that everything gets easier.

Bottom line: You think there is only one way to do everything.... When you fully understand the system from different perspectives you realize things are not quite as straight forward and "simple" as you once thought.

It is not just for Autism-lol. It is for healing the gut plain and simple. If you have ever spent anytime on any GAPS forums you will see there are people there for many different reasons as well as acne, eczema, psoriasis, crohns etc. People use this diet to heal the gut. The intro phase is extreme, however not everyone needs to start at the intro diet, the Full GAPS diet is more like a Paleo type diet and is not extreme. For those who do choose to start with the intro, if you only have Acne and NOT Autism than you may only need a day or two on the intro diet which isn't that hard. No not everything works for everybody that is true as we all have unique gut flora and unique circumstances, I do think we all pretty much agree that the way to health is through the gut. I personally merge both the Specific Carbohydrate Diet and the GAPS diet, everyone ultimately has to make tweaks to find what brings them healing, although the end result is always the same. Heal the gut, restore health.

[captainsunshine]

myheartsholistic, on 23 November 2011 - 11:30 AM, said:

The GAPS DIET is VERY VERY close to the PALEO diet. I follow the GAPS diet yet use many Paleo cookbooks, the only differences are very minor such as chocolate and cocoa are allowed on paleo and they are not on GAPS as well as certain starches are not allowed such as sweet potatoes/yucca etc. Otherwise they are pretty much similar.

It depends which version of the Paleo diet we are talking about. I follow Cordain's, where Chocolate and cocoa is not allowed. It's Mark Sisson and his 'Primal' diet that has diluted Paleo to some extent. He has this 80/20 rule which I'm not really in favour of personally.

[myheartsholistic]

captainsunshine, on 23 November 2011 - 12:23 PM, said:

myheartsholistic, on 23 November 2011 - 11:30 AM, said:

The GAPS DIET is VERY VERY close to the PALEO diet. I follow the GAPS diet yet use many Paleo cookbooks, the only differences are very minor such as chocolate and cocoa are allowed on paleo and they are not on GAPS as well as certain starches are not allowed such as sweet potatoes/yucca etc. Otherwise they are pretty much similar.

It depends which version of the Paleo diet we are talking about. I follow Cordain's, where Chocolate and cocoa is not allowed. It's Mark Sisson and his 'Primal' diet that has diluted Paleo to some extent. He has this 80/20 rule which I'm not really in favour of personally.

Interesting, I have to be quite honest I am not all that savvy with differences in the Paleo world. I do however love my Paleo cookbooks. I will have to look up Cordains, sounds like it may be even closer to what I follow. Thanks for posting this.

[dejaclairevoyant]

It wasn't a detox reaction. I believe I am allergic. Chemicals are released when you cook stock for a long time, and while most people wouldn't be sensitive to them--I am. I also don't react well to chicken or turkey meats in general.

And yes, it was homemade broth and I've tried it multiple times. I only eat things that were made from scratch by me.

[captainsunshine]

myheartsholistic, on 23 November 2011 - 12:29 PM, said:

Interesting, I have to be quite honest I am not all that savvy with differences in the Paleo world. I do however love my Paleo cookbooks. I will have to look up Cordains, sounds like it may be even closer to what I follow. Thanks for posting this.

Cordain was the original pioneer if you like, or at least, he was the first to produce a Paleo guide to acne anyway. I believe the chocolate eaters go for a high cocoa based dark chocolate because they feel it's mostly plant, 85% or more cocoa is the best, and apparently the higher the cocoa the lower the sugar. If I could find a 100% cocoa chocolate I may be tempted myself, but since the ones on the shelves are full of stevia, or xylitol and other stuff I don't touch, I leave well alone.

Edited by captainsunshine, 23 November 2011 - 12:42 PM.

[Philip Ridley]

Hi guys. Here are samples of Dr. Natasha's talks from the 2011 Wise Traditions Conference:



Lots of other videos also available at:
- http://www.westonaprice.org/london

Edited by Philip Ridley, 23 November 2011 - 12:47 PM.

[moonbase]

myheartsholistic, on 23 November 2011 - 11:42 AM, said:

It is not just for Autism-lol. It is for healing the gut plain and simple. If you have ever spent anytime on any GAPS forums you will see there are people there for many different reasons as well as acne, eczema, psoriasis, crohns etc. People use this diet to heal the gut. The intro phase is extreme, however not everyone needs to start at the intro diet, the Full GAPS diet is more like a Paleo type diet and is not extreme. For those who do choose to start with the intro, if you only have Acne and NOT Autism than you may only need a day or two on the intro diet which isn't that hard. No not everything works for everybody that is true as we all have unique gut flora and unique circumstances, I do think we all pretty much agree that the way to health is through the gut. I personally merge both the Specific Carbohydrate Diet and the GAPS diet, everyone ultimately has to make tweaks to find what brings them healing, although the end result is always the same. Heal the gut, restore health.

You do realise i posted this in an acne forum... thus I do think it would be useful. So how long have you been on your diet?

[myheartsholistic]

moonbase, on 23 November 2011 - 02:04 PM, said:

myheartsholistic, on 23 November 2011 - 11:42 AM, said:

It is not just for Autism-lol. It is for healing the gut plain and simple. If you have ever spent anytime on any GAPS forums you will see there are people there for many different reasons as well as acne, eczema, psoriasis, crohns etc. People use this diet to heal the gut. The intro phase is extreme, however not everyone needs to start at the intro diet, the Full GAPS diet is more like a Paleo type diet and is not extreme. For those who do choose to start with the intro, if you only have Acne and NOT Autism than you may only need a day or two on the intro diet which isn't that hard. No not everything works for everybody that is true as we all have unique gut flora and unique circumstances, I do think we all pretty much agree that the way to health is through the gut. I personally merge both the Specific Carbohydrate Diet and the GAPS diet, everyone ultimately has to make tweaks to find what brings them healing, although the end result is always the same. Heal the gut, restore health.

You do realise i posted this in an acne forum... thus I do think it would be useful. So how long have you been on your diet?

I have been following the GAPS/SCD diet for close to a year now. I started with the intro diet and now follow the full gaps diet which is similar to the Paleo diet except with a few more restrictions. I think ultimately we are here for the same reason. We lived it and now we want to help others. I commend you for that. Gut healing is the basis of health and we are on the same page.

[moonbase]

myheartsholistic, on 23 November 2011 - 10:44 PM, said:

moonbase, on 23 November 2011 - 02:04 PM, said:

myheartsholistic, on 23 November 2011 - 11:42 AM, said:

It is not just for Autism-lol. It is for healing the gut plain and simple. If you have ever spent anytime on any GAPS forums you will see there are people there for many different reasons as well as acne, eczema, psoriasis, crohns etc. People use this diet to heal the gut. The intro phase is extreme, however not everyone needs to start at the intro diet, the Full GAPS diet is more like a Paleo type diet and is not extreme. For those who do choose to start with the intro, if you only have Acne and NOT Autism than you may only need a day or two on the intro diet which isn't that hard. No not everything works for everybody that is true as we all have unique gut flora and unique circumstances, I do think we all pretty much agree that the way to health is through the gut. I personally merge both the Specific Carbohydrate Diet and the GAPS diet, everyone ultimately has to make tweaks to find what brings them healing, although the end result is always the same. Heal the gut, restore health.

You do realise i posted this in an acne forum... thus I do think it would be useful. So how long have you been on your diet?

I have been following the GAPS/SCD diet for close to a year now. I started with the intro diet and now follow the full gaps diet which is similar to the Paleo diet except with a few more restrictions. I think ultimately we are here for the same reason. We lived it and now we want to help others. I commend you for that. Gut healing is the basis of health and we are on the same page.

Paleo has more restrictions. Gaps allows all kinds of neolithic foods once you get past the initial phases. So you can now eat any food you like without consequences? Such as high GI foods, lots of fruit, dairy, grains, potatoes?

Edited by moonbase, 24 November 2011 - 02:31 AM.

[LiveLaughFart]

So I have acne, because my gut is damaged?
So lets say I go on this diet, and get clear of acne...do I need to stay on this diet for the rest of my life? Or when my gut is healed, can it work properly enough to let me eat cake without breaking out?

[moonbase]

Ugly skin disease, on 24 November 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:

So I have acne, because my gut is damaged?
So lets say I go on this diet, and get clear of acne...do I need to stay on this diet for the rest of my life? Or when my gut is healed, can it work properly enough to let me eat cake without breaking out?

Thats the idea.

[LiveLaughFart]

moonbase, on 24 November 2011 - 08:09 PM, said:

Ugly skin disease, on 24 November 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:

So I have acne, because my gut is damaged?
So lets say I go on this diet, and get clear of acne...do I need to stay on this diet for the rest of my life? Or when my gut is healed, can it work properly enough to let me eat cake without breaking out?

Thats the idea.

What would you say you usually eat for dinner? Or in a day, what type of food do you normally eat?