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Ugly skin disease, on 30 November 2011 - 01:29 AM, said:

I recently read that the creator of this diet has been lying about his identity.. it really turned me off to this diet.

I have to opinion about that because I never read it from a reliable source.

Edited by OlympusMons, 30 November 2011 - 02:39 PM.

[Beaksauce]

Hi, I am trying this diet right now.... and i have to ask you a few questions

1) For the 1st few days, did all of your acne come to a head all at the same time? For me it is overwhelming and kind of depressing. I feel like an ogre.

2) When does this initial explosion heal up?

* I know you are probably going to ask if i am doing the diet correctly. I am on day 4. I only eat fruit, extra virgin olive oil, and egg yolks so far.

I am definitely eating enough calories ( I have calcuated it).
I eat the fruit with avocado and orange juice with olive oil ( to make sure the sugars are digested slowly - not high GI)
I eat the egg yolks by themselves (4 or 5) - I was already eating egg yolks and was therefore used to them. and I wait at least 2 hours before doing anything physical after the egg yolks.

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Beaksauce, on 01 December 2011 - 10:59 PM, said:

Hi, I am trying this diet right now.... and i have to ask you a few questions

1) For the 1st few days, did all of your acne come to a head all at the same time? For me it is overwhelming and kind of depressing. I feel like an ogre.

2) When does this initial explosion heal up?

* I know you are probably going to ask if i am doing the diet correctly. I am on day 4. I only eat fruit, extra virgin olive oil, and egg yolks so far.

I am definitely eating enough calories ( I have calcuated it).
I eat the fruit with avocado and orange juice with olive oil ( to make sure the sugars are digested slowly - not high GI)
I eat the egg yolks by themselves (4 or 5) - I was already eating egg yolks and was therefore used to them. and I wait at least 2 hours before doing anything physical after the egg yolks.

1) Yes, that happens to everyone who starts this diet. It's the sebum of the clogged canals coming up. You just gotta go through it... shouldn't be that hard, since in a few more days you'll be very, very clear... so a few days of ogre-like acne should compensate for that

2)You're in day 4... I guess more 6-10 days and it should heal 100%.

Ok, seems to me that you're doing everything right!
Just be patient again.. what's a few days of pimples compared to months/years, anyway?

Just a question: do you like egg yolks alone?
You can add white sugar to them.
Or you can also mix them in fruit juices (can't use blenders, they heat up protein). Egg yolks are also a fat source, have 28% fat. You can still add olive oil, too.
The only thing you shouldn't eat after animal foods is fibrous foods. You can eat juices and oils (and white sugar), which are very low fiber.

Edited by OlympusMons, 02 December 2011 - 05:47 PM.

[Scootah]

Do you eat egg yolk with or without sac?

[OlympusMons]

Scootah, on 03 December 2011 - 04:48 PM, said:

Do you eat egg yolk with or without sac?

Without.

[Scootah]

Hey OlympusMons,
I am on this diet for about 4 days and I would like to ask you a few questions if you don't mind.

1) Can you show us in Wai nutrition calculator what exactly do you eat on your average day, when and how much fruits and oil contain one meal?

I have issue with how much fat can I eat a don't get acne. 2 days back I ate with every sweet fruit avocado or a lot of oil and it seems, that a lot of oil gives me pimples on my face.

2) Did you have issue with acne on your neck and upper back?

When my diet contains vegies, organic meat, lentils and all that "healthy stuff" I don't have issue with acne on my neck and upper back. But my face is more oily, bumpy and don't look good. Now after few days on Wai diet I no longer have need to wash my face every day twice like I used to have and overall my face looks much better but my neck, places behind ears and upper back is full of new pimples which I had long time ago when I ate junk food.

My diet looks like this:
2 liters of OJ with 8 tablespoons of OO.
About 1 liter of water.
I just started so now only 3 egg yolks which I eat without a sack every evening before I go sleep.
About 5 apples and 5 mandarins which I don't eat with fat because I am afraid of too much fat -> acne.

Tell me please what do you think.

[OlympusMons]

Scootah, on 04 December 2011 - 04:31 PM, said:

Hey OlympusMons,
I am on this diet for about 4 days and I would like to ask you a few questions if you don't mind.

Hey Scootah!
Ofc not, I'm here for it

Scootah, on 04 December 2011 - 04:31 PM, said:

1) Can you show us in Wai nutrition calculator what exactly do you eat on your average day, when and how much fruits and oil contain one meal?

What I eat in one day varies a lot, and I never count it...
But here's what I ate in the last 24 hours, for example:


RDA: FDA Men, 19-24yr (177cm/70in, 72kg/160lb)

Your selection:
[Item 1] 3units of Avocado (Persea americana), California, [1],
[Item 2] 225g (grams) of Chicken egg yolk (Gallus domesticus), raw, [1],
[Item 3] 50g (grams) of Sugar, granulated [1][2],
[Item 4] 700g (grams) of Banana (Musa X paradisiaca), [1],
[Item 5] 700g (grams) of Mango (Magnifera indica L.), [1][2],
[Item 6] 40ml (milliliters) of Olive oil (Olea europea), [1].

Weight:.................................2230.45g

Nutrients...............................Quantity..............RDA

Energy..................................3338.89kcal .....2900.00kcal
Carbohydrate.............................372.86g ..............?g
Fat......................................201.10g ..............?g
Protein...................................59.44g ..........58.00g
Water...................................1578.21ml .............?ml
Fiber.....................................54.83g ..............?g

Vitamins
Vitamin A, RE (Retinol Equivalent)......4409.59mcg ......1000.00mcg
-Beta-carotene..........................8318.00mcg ............?mcg no data:1,4,6
Vitamin B1, Thiamin........................1.72mg ..........1.50mg
Vitamin B2, Riboflavin.....................3.19mg ..........1.70mg
Vitamin B3, Niacin/Nicotinamide...........17.84mg .........19.00mg
Vitamin B5, Pantothenic acid..............16.54mg .............?mg
Vitamin B6, Pyridoxine.....................7.30mg ..........2.00mg
Vitamin B8, Biotin.........................0.00mcg ............?mcg no data:1,2,4,5,6
Vitamin B9, Folic acid...................902.04mcg .......200.00mcg
Vitamin B12................................6.99mcg .........2.00mcg
Vitamin C, Ascorbic acid.................298.60mg .........60.00mg
Vitamin D................................333.00IU ........400.00IU no data:3
Vitamin E.................................28.31mg .........10.00mg
Vitamin K..................................0.00mcg ........70.00mcg no data:1,2,4,5,6

Minerals and trace elements
Calcium, Ca..............................477.84mg .......1200.00mg
Iron, Fe..................................17.29mg .........10.00mg
Magnesium, Mg............................499.04mg ........350.00mg
Phosphorus, P...........................1533.34mg .......1200.00mg
Sodium, Na...............................180.03mg .............?mg
Potassium, K............................7366.96mg .............?mg
Zinc, Zn..................................10.59mg .........15.00mg
Iodide, I.................................11.20mcg .......150.00mcg no data:1,2,3,4,6
Selenium, Se.............................113.90mcg ........70.00mcg no data:1

Total sugar...............................49.95g ..............?g no data:1,2,4,5,6
Glucose....................................5.95g ..............?g no data:1,2,4,6
Fructose..................................18.20g ..............?g no data:1,2,4,6
Sucrose..................................112.95g ..............?g no data:1,2,4,6
Lactose....................................0.00g ..............?g no data:1,2,4,5,6
Starch.....................................0.00g ..............?g no data:1,2,4,5,6

Fats
Fat, saturated............................41.67g ..............?g
Fat, monounsaturated.....................112.44g ..............?g
Fat, polyunsaturated......................24.07g ..............?g

Omega-3 fatty acids
18:3 n-3, linolenic acid (LNA).............1.55g ..............?g
20:5 n-3, eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA)......0.02g ..............?g
22:5 n-3, docosapentaenoic acid (DPA)......0.00g ..............?g
22:6 n-3, docosahexaenoic acid (DHA).......0.24g ..............?g

Cholesterol.............................2882.25mg .............?mg

I take the fruit-fat connection very strictly. I never eat fruits alone. Always add 1gram of fat for each 2gram of carbs. Sometimes I even eat fat alone (like avocados alone, egg yolks only with a little white sugar, etc) because I love fat, and my body asks a lot for it (probably cause I'm quite sedentary).

Scootah, on 04 December 2011 - 04:31 PM, said:

I have issue with how much fat can I eat a don't get acne. 2 days back I ate with every sweet fruit avocado or a lot of oil and it seems, that a lot of oil gives me pimples on my face.

That's very unlikely to be cause of fat, but if you think that is, just listen to your body and try to eat a bit less fats.
Anyway, it's soon to tell WHAT exactly still gives you pimples. Only after day 15 we will be able to tell what. By now, the sebum is still coming up from previously clogged canals, so it's normal that you're getting pimples - this happens to everyone who starts this diet.

Scootah, on 04 December 2011 - 04:31 PM, said:

2) Did you have issue with acne on your neck and upper back?

Never in the neck, but I had some mild acne in my shoulders and in my chest. It completely went away after week 3.

Scootah, on 04 December 2011 - 04:31 PM, said:

When my diet contains vegies, organic meat, lentils and all that "healthy stuff" I don't have issue with acne on my neck and upper back. But my face is more oily, bumpy and don't look good. Now after few days on Wai diet I no longer have need to wash my face every day twice like I used to have and overall my face looks much better but my neck, places behind ears and upper back is full of new pimples which I had long time ago when I ate junk food.

That's just probably what I said before - you're in the stage of the diet (until day 15) where the sebum is coming up from previously clogged canals. It's like the "cleaning" stage. You'll be getting new pimples for a couple more days, a week max, and then by day 15 it should be all clear, so don't worry And give it time.

Scootah, on 04 December 2011 - 04:31 PM, said:

My diet looks like this:
2 liters of OJ with 8 tablespoons of OO.
About 1 liter of water.
I just started so now only 3 egg yolks which I eat without a sack every evening before I go sleep.
About 5 apples and 5 mandarins which I don't eat with fat because I am afraid of too much fat -> acne.

Tell me please what do you think.

Seems alright to me!
Just try to vary fruits, from day to day, so you can make sure you get enough nutrients.
It's ok to eat without fat 5 apples and 5 mandarins a day, in my opinion, as long as you don't eat them all of a sudden (causing blood sugar spikes).

Good luck! Keep us updated

Edited by OlympusMons, 05 December 2011 - 07:11 AM.

[Scootah]

Hello OlympusMons,

Thank you for answering all my questions. I have been on this diet for 9 days now and I wanna share with all members of acne.org my progress and results so far. Also I have a few next questions for you OlympusMons, which interest me for next successful being on this diet

Day 4
My diet looked exactely like I describe it in my last post so 1 liter of OJ with OO, apples, mandarins and 3 egg yolks at the evening.

Day 5
I woke up and I had one new medium zit on my forehead and one big red on my chin...zits like this I didn't get in like 5 last months on normal Paleo diet so last day I had to eat something wrong. I am suspecting the egg yolks because in the past every time I try ate eggs my face looked next day worse but I was eating then tons of other stuff so I though now it will be ok. Is it possible to get acne from egg yolks? Am I sensitive on them?
Anyway I decided to change way how I eat, what I eat and how much I eat for one meal. So I went to a store and buy tons of fruits, olive oil and wild-caught frozen salmon. I get back home and decided that now I will eat 8-10 small meals through a day -> 1 meal every hour. The meal will contain 4 small pieces of fruit (2 small mandarins, 1/4 of avocado, 1/3 of big banana) and 2 tablespoons of olive oil.
I was a little bit worried of too much fat but it shows that fat is not what cause me acne.
So now I ate through the day about 16 small mandarins, 16 tablespoon of olive oil, 3 big bananas and 2 avocados and 60g of salmon.

Day 6
I woke up and looked in a mirror and...my skin looked flawless. No new big zits, no oily skin, only 2-3 tiny white heads which you pop up and they disappeared, bumps under my skin are disappearing too. I was so happy so I continued with exactly same diet like last day.

Day 7
My skin is again much better than last day. Acne on the neck and back is fading. I decided to try some other fruit so I put in meal not mandarins but 2 kiwis. That was mistake...I don't know if kiwi gave me on the end of the day medium pimple on my neck and few whiteheads on the face with little of bumps or fact that I eat more sugar in one meal.

Day 8
I retourned to the exactly same type and quantity of fruits like on the day 5 and 6.

Day 9 (today)
My skin looks again perfectly...but I have issue with dryness of my face skin. I would like to use some moisturizer on my face. I was thinking about using olive oil...what do you think OlympusMons? Doesn't I get pimples from using olive oil like moisturizer?


Recommendation for everone - TRY THIS DIET!!! I tried every diet at this forum (low glycemic, organic meat + vegetable only, vegetarian, vegan,...) and it seems that only Wai diet works for me. Key is eat little bit of food very often. I feel more energetic through a day. I remember how I was falling asleep at a class about 6pm and don't have energy for party after class. Evening studying was no way for me - I was too tired but now I do things to school till 11pm. Another benefit is that I feel with more energy is my mood much better....I am so excited


At the end few other questions for you OlympusMons :

1) When do you eat meat? At the evening or a little of every meal? Do you eat other meat than salmon or tuna?

2) Do you know what alcohol is the least harmful for skin? I read that Way said that vodka is. Tell me please what is your opinion on alcohol. New Year's Eve party is comming and I don't wanna wake up with a lot of pimples on my skin

3) Day 5 + Day 9 questions

4) *Edit* One more question - is it possible to get fat on this diet? Like if I was eating 4000 calories through the day every day but only from fruits, olive oil and raw meat.

I am so glad that I finally found the right diet...

Edited by Scootah, 09 December 2011 - 05:26 AM.

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Scootah, on 09 December 2011 - 05:01 AM, said:

Hello OlympusMons, Thank you for answering all my questions. I have been on this diet for 9 days now and I wanna share with all members of acne.org my progress and results so far.

Hey Scootah!

Thank you for your feedback!

Scootah, on 09 December 2011 - 05:01 AM, said:

I am suspecting the egg yolks because in the past every time I try ate eggs my face looked next day worse but I was eating then tons of other stuff so I though now it will be ok. Is it possible to get acne from egg yolks? Am I sensitive on them?

I don't think it was from the only 3 egg yolks.

What orange juice have you been drinking?
Store bought orange juice is pasteurized, and therefore can make you pimples.
Even worse than pasteurization, most brands like tropicana keep their juice up to one year, and then use flavor packs to give it flavor. Complete rubbish, so always do your own juice at home.

Scootah, on 09 December 2011 - 05:01 AM, said:

I get back home and decided that now I will eat 8-10 small meals through a day -> 1 meal every hour. The meal will contain 4 small pieces of fruit (2 small mandarins, 1/4 of avocado, 1/3 of big banana) and 2 tablespoons of olive oil. I was a little bit worried of too much fat but it shows that fat is not what cause me acne. So now I ate through the day about 16 small mandarins, 16 tablespoon of olive oil, 3 big bananas and 2 avocados and 60g of salmon.

The "slowest" you can eat, the better, but you don't need to be that scrupulous about your meals.
Just eat whenever you want, as long as you always eat fruit/juices with some fat.

16tbsp of OO, that's ok to eat but you don't need that much hehe! Try eating 1g of fat for each 2g of carbs. Use WaiDiet calculator for this.

Scootah, on 09 December 2011 - 05:01 AM, said:

I don't know if kiwi gave me on the end of the day medium pimple on my neck and few whiteheads on the face with little of bumps or fact that I eat more sugar in one meal.

It's still too soon to tell... you're still on the stage of diet (until day 15) were you might be getting new pimples whatsoever.

Scootah, on 09 December 2011 - 05:01 AM, said:

I was thinking about using olive oil...what do you think OlympusMons? Doesn't I get pimples from using olive oil like moisturizer?

No, oils, unlike what most people say, won't give you pimples when used as moisturizers. You must use little tough, like 1 fingertip for the whole face.

Sure you can use OO, but make sure it's top quality.
You gotta try it to know if you get on well with it.
But you should also try coconut oil. We think it's the best oil for skincare, and lots of people on the diet use it.
I can't use any oil, because my burned skin is very sensitive, but I get wonderful moisturizing results with pure glycerin.

Scootah, on 09 December 2011 - 05:01 AM, said:

Recommendation for everone - TRY THIS DIET!!! I tried every diet at this forum (low glycemic, organic meat + vegetable only, vegetarian, vegan,...) and it seems that only Wai diet works for me. Key is eat little bit of food very often. I feel more energetic through a day. I remember how I was falling asleep at a class about 6pm and don't have energy for party after class. Evening studying was no way for me - I was too tired but now I do things to school till 11pm. Another benefit is that I feel with more energy is my mood much better....I am so excited

I had to bold this, and thank you so much for saying this, because it's really the best thing about this diet, imo!
Lots of people in our forum report this kind of benefits!

Scootah, on 09 December 2011 - 05:01 AM, said:

1) When do you eat meat? At the evening or a little of every meal? Do you eat other meat than salmon or tuna?

It's best to eat meat/fish only once or twice a day, because it requires some effort to digest. Evening is best, but day is completely fine too.
Yes, I eat mackerel, other local small fatty fish, and organic grounded beef sirloin.

Scootah, on 09 December 2011 - 05:01 AM, said:

2) Do you know what alcohol is the least harmful for skin? I read that Way said that vodka is. Tell me please what is your opinion on alcohol. New Year's Eve party is comming and I don't wanna wake up with a lot of pimples on my skin

Definitely vodka, cause it's almost only water+ethanol.
All other alcoholic beverages these days go through lots of chemical processes, and get added lots of stuff.

Scootah, on 09 December 2011 - 05:01 AM, said:

is it possible to get fat on this diet? Like if I was eating 4000 calories through the day every day but only from fruits, olive oil and raw meat.

I'd say it's 99.9% impossible. This diet don't provide you any appetite enhancers (substances present in all cooked foods, and often added in packed/junk foods).
These are the cause of overweight - people get physically addicted on food, and so they overeat.
In this diet it's very difficult to overeat. If you'd consume 4000kcal, you'd get very full (I did this a few times). Unless you were very active, and would actually spend these 4000kcal.
Resuming, the absence of taste enhancers will sharply regulate your body's appetite and its demand for energy.

Scootah, on 09 December 2011 - 05:01 AM, said:

I am so glad that I finally found the right diet...

That's exactly what I felt when I was starting, like you, and still feel today

Thanks again!

[OlympusMons]

And glad to see it's going well!

[strax]

I felt great on this diet. I did it for over a month, but maybe i was consuming too many bananas, or too much non-organic fruit, because it didn't help me at all. I did feel really good though, I might go back on it just for the energy and try to treat my acne with supplements

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strax, on 20 December 2011 - 01:22 PM, said:

I felt great on this diet. I did it for over a month, but maybe i was consuming too many bananas, or too much non-organic fruit, because it didn't help me at all. I did feel really good though, I might go back on it just for the energy and try to treat my acne with supplements

Hey strax.

I'm sorry to hear that your acne didn't improve in that time, and at the same time and glad to hear that you felt like that!

If you're acne didn't improve, there are 2 options:
1.) You are one of the very small minority that have strong hormonal unbalance and this diet won't clear up
2.) You did something wrong.

Too much non-organic fruit won't cause acne. It's ok to eat lots of non-organic foods as long as you always peel them, in order not to ingest the pesticides and other residues (99% of this stuff remains in the peels). But even if you were ingesting this much pesticides, pesticides are unhealthy, but won't cause acne.

What you might be doing wrong in something a lot of people do, even I did in the beginning: forgetting to always eat fatty foods when you eat sugary foods.
This will prevent blood glucose spikes, and blood glucose spikes can cause acne in some people. (Too many bananas is ok, as long as you eat some fat with them!)

Again, I'm glad that you felt great on this diet, and I think that's the very reason for doing it. I would challenge you to try it for 2 more weeks, and see if this time you'd get cleared up
If you have any questions feel free to PM me

[strax]

OlympusMon I dont think the sample size has been large enough to draw those 2 stark conclusions about that diet. As far as I know, very few people have actually followed the protocal, so it would be hard to get good numbers on how well it works.

Fatty foods with my meals was the main thing that I was doing. Because before the diet, i was doing the exact raw food meat/fruit diet as the Wai, except I wasnt combining them. Infact I have been eating this way for 4 or 5 months. Then I did the Wai diet for over a month where i combined them.

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strax, on 20 December 2011 - 11:26 PM, said:

OlympusMon I dont think the sample size has been large enough to draw those 2 stark conclusions about that diet. As far as I know, very few people have actually followed the protocal, so it would be hard to get good numbers on how well it works.

Ok, it's a plausible opinion. But we don't think that this diet will clear everyone up (except the ones with strong hormonal unbalance) based only on empiric evidence. We also think that based in this diet's biochemistry theory (google freeacnebook). But yes, this is not some kind of scientifically evidence, but from what we've been seeing and from what we believe, it's pretty much what happens. That's why we always say - if you don't believe, try it yourself... and as a matter of fact, I've browsed through the whole forum of this diet (waitalk), and you're the second person that I read that it didn't work.

We'd love to "prove" it scientifically, by clinical studies, or any other kind of studies on people, but only a dermatologist could do this (in order to be recognized by the scientific community), and we still haven't found any interested (guess why...)

strax, on 20 December 2011 - 11:26 PM, said:

Fatty foods with my meals was the main thing that I was doing. Because before the diet, i was doing the exact raw food meat/fruit diet as the Wai, except I wasnt combining them. Infact I have been eating this way for 4 or 5 months. Then I did the Wai diet for over a month where i combined them.

Nice! The you've been doing Wai Diet for 4/5 months, and Acne Sample Diet (the version to get rid of acne) for 1 month!
You must really feel different by now!

But there are a few other things that could have given you acne:
medications
alcohol
irradiated meat
nuts (they give acne to some people)
commercial products used on face (soaps, moisturizers, all of that stuff)
...

Did you make sure to stick strictly to the rules of the acnesamplediet page?

Or maybe you're unlucky to be one of the few people who's got strong hormonal unbalance, but even in this group this diet will make your skin complexion and acne condition much better!

So tell me: this diet didn't help you at all, or just didn't clean you 100%?

Edited by OlympusMons, 21 December 2011 - 12:57 PM.

[OlympusMons]

I got new photos, check my gallery!

Anyone would like to post some photos of their progress here?

[TheMedic]

Yes, I've said before the closest relation and expanation to my experiences is all the information provided in the Wai protocall. It has holes, but it seems to work kick ass!

OlympusMons, on 08 November 2011 - 02:15 PM, said:

captainsunshine, on 07 November 2011 - 04:33 PM, said:

Congratulations. Being strict Paleo, I understand the hardship of following any diet, especially the Wai diet, and especially since February.

Thanks! It was hard, during the first 3 months or something, but after that it became completely natural! It just makes all the sense to me. I really don't feel any difficulty in keeping it. Hard for me would be having to eat cooked foods, now!

iamthat, on 07 November 2011 - 07:35 PM, said:

I just started the same diet with MASSIVE improvements .. I was on the candida diet and got very ill so I decided to fast and go mostly raw. I will post about my adventure soon! Congrats!! If I may ask what do you eat or not eat concerning the raw foods. Also is there any nuts or raw foods that set you off? Do you soak your nuts? Have you tried to have cocoa powder or beans? Your skin looks great btw

Glad to ear about your improvements!
I eat everything that's raw, except raw milk/dairy and raw vegetables. I eat mostly fruit of the season, of my country, and the cheapest I can get because I eat a lot, like 8kg/day. Eat lots of cold-pressed extra-virgin olive oil. I eat lots of free-range eggs (only eat the yolk), frozen organic meat and fresh wild fish. Raw foods that set me off... almost all hehe, specially avocados and raw organic beef, those are taste explosions for me. I don't eat nuts because they are a bit heavy for my stomach, and they give me a few pimples. I never soaked my nuts, that's an indian contraceptive method I think... ahah just joking! I never did, but that shouldn't be bad I guess. Never tried cocoa powder or beans. They're not part of the Wai Diet, cause they have toxins and can't be eaten raw! Did you ever tried those raw?

About my skin, thanks! I hope it still gets better and thicker with years.
Looking forward to see your adventure's results

Yeah nuts and seeds never did well for me. Bannanas, mangoes and others have also given me issues.

[BaRayRayAllDayDay]

Can I wash my face three times a day with water? I've been washing it just twice and I am still getting pimples...I keep thinking it'll be perfect by tomorrow and it's not happening. I've been on the diet for 5 days...Easter was last Sunday and I ATE terribly over easter, could all these "New" pimples be from all the crap I ate last weekend? I have "Combination Oily" skin...

Thanks,

I have my fingers crossed that THIS is my cure...

P.S. Can I eat like a peach/kiwi & avocado together? LOL cause I just did anyway...

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BaRayRayAllDayDay, on 13 April 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

Can I wash my face three times a day with water? I've been washing it just twice and I am still getting pimples...I keep thinking it'll be perfect by tomorrow and it's not happening. I've been on the diet for 5 days...Easter was last Sunday and I ATE terribly over easter, could all these "New" pimples be from all the crap I ate last weekend? I have "Combination Oily" skin...

Thanks,

I have my fingers crossed that THIS is my cure...

P.S. Can I eat like a peach/kiwi & avocado together? LOL cause I just did anyway...

Sorry, I haven't been coming here in a while!
These new pimples are normal. In the first 2 weeks you will be getting new pimples, even if you do the diet 100%, because the blockem sebum will be "pulled out" of your skin. After 2 weeks, you'll be (and always remain) clear. If you eat crap, back to day zero...!

This will be the cure, believe me. In our forum, I've only read of 1 of 2 persons who didn't suceed, over dozens and dozens of testimonials. This is the real thing. You'll find out by yourself once you get it right over the 2 weeks

Ofc you can eat those fruits together! As long as you do these 2 things:
1)stay 1-2hours without eating after eating fish/meat
2)always eat some fat(olive oil, avocado, nuts, egg yolk) with fruits
you can eat whatever combination of (Wai) foods you want.

[Tunnelvisionary]

I used to be cautious of this diet because of the large amounts of fruits and fruit juices. I jumped on the bandwagon of thinking all sugars in all forms are bad for acne. Added and refined sugars can mess things up, definitely! However, putting fruits in the same category as a cookie because they both have fructose is misguided in my opinion, and I see that now. I love fruits and sugar! They have helped my health so much. My hair line started receding because of low-no carbing it (vegetables are not a great source for calories or carbs) and not eating enough. I'm sure there is a right way to do that sort of diet, but I wasn't doing it, and eating a bunch of fruit is much more satisfying.

I don't have anything against 100% raw, I just cook my meats a little bit. Not afraid of undercooking.

Anyway, Wai diet gets my approval, though I don't really follow it

[OlympusMons]

Tunnelvisionary, on 22 April 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

I used to be cautious of this diet because of the large amounts of fruits and fruit juices. I jumped on the bandwagon of thinking all sugars in all forms are bad for acne. Added and refined sugars can mess things up, definitely! However, putting fruits in the same category as a cookie because they both have fructose is misguided in my opinion, and I see that now. I love fruits and sugar! They have helped my health so much. My hair line started receding because of low-no carbing it (vegetables are not a great source for calories or carbs) and not eating enough. I'm sure there is a right way to do that sort of diet, but I wasn't doing it, and eating a bunch of fruit is much more satisfying.

Yes, sugar is needed for lots of vital functions of the body.
The only way sugar can cause acne is eating a lot at a time, and without fat, by spiking blood glucose levels.
I'm glad you experieced with youself. That's the best way to get things right!

Tunnelvisionary, on 22 April 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

I don't have anything against 100% raw, I just cook my meats a little bit. Not afraid of undercooking.

I see. You should try slow cooked meat then. It's almost as healthy as raw meat, since most of the damage is done at high temperatures (above 90ºC or so). Buy a tajine, it's cheap like 10 €/dolares, you'll be amazed

Or you can also buy a (cheap) dehydrator and dry your meat. It tastes somehow cooked and can be considered raw if you don't go over 60ºC. I always dry my meat lately... so good!

Tunnelvisionary, on 22 April 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

Anyway, Wai diet gets my approval, though I don't really follow it

Nice