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[OlympusMons]

FSAS, on 29 October 2011 - 06:59 AM, said:

thankyou for that info I'll definitely look into it. I suppose it's frustrating to read a lot of contradicting ways out there. Especially when things like green smoothies are so praised and even for clearing people. Vegetables are full of nutrients :/

Well, in most people green smoothies can actually get them better of their acne because that's right, they are full of nutrients, and even having lots of anti-nutrients, they have a lot less anti-nutrients (and a lot more nutrients) than all the junk and cooked foods we eat nowadays.

FSAS, on 29 October 2011 - 06:59 AM, said:

do people stay on the wai diet forever? or is it a say 2week - 2 month thing?

Some people stay on Wai Diet forever. There are people in our board that have been on it for like 10 years. I am on it since Feb2011, and in the last 5 months I haven't eat not even 1 bite of any non-Wai food. That's because non-Wai foods really don't feel like food to me anymore, and I no longer would eat them unless there wasn't anything else. The health benefits are extreme, and extremely evident!
But it's your choice. If you just wanna get acne clear, you don't need to stay on diet forever. You only gotta do it for 2 weeks (no nuts, no more than 100g of animal food per day). After these 2 weeks you will be 100% or almost 100% clear. Then, you can start adding 1 munch food at a time, and wait 3 or 4 days to see whether it gives you acne or not. With these experiments, you begin deciding how clean you want your skin to be, because you'll know what causes you pimples and what doesn't. Google free acne book to know more about this.

FSAS, on 29 October 2011 - 06:59 AM, said:

Wouldn't fruit be very similar to veggies? I'm not sure I can eat fish and eggs raw haha >.<

Fruit isn't similar to veggies. It's a lot easier for us to digest and a lot richer in nutrients (specially carbs and fats).
About raw fish and raw egg yolks, it's a matter of habit. Ever tried sashimi? Ever tried raw egg yolks with sugar? It's really tasty!

FSAS, on 29 October 2011 - 06:59 AM, said:

upon some research I've noted the words grains and plants keep getting repeated, would the word plant really just mean like things like spinach and the likes of that or are things like carrots and say tomatoes a no no?

Veggies are everything that isn't typically fruit, except tomatoes, cucumbers, avocados and olives. These are the only veggie-fruits you can eat.

FSAS, on 29 October 2011 - 06:59 AM, said:

I also read elsewhere that berries werent meant for human consumption because "they were meant for birds" or something like that.

You can eat berries as long as they're not poisonous or of hard digestion. I get extremely well with strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, etc.
But be careful with non-organic berries, and even organic, since they have no skin, so you can end up ingesting a lot of chemicals/toxins/etc.

FSAS, on 29 October 2011 - 06:59 AM, said:

There are some really overwhelming things out there especially when everywhere you read it says to eat veggies, berries and to limit fruit to only a few pieces a day :/

Yes, this diet's paradigm is quite opposite to what most people actually think. That's why I'd really like everyone in the world to be on this
diet only for 2 weeks, and I guess that at least a big part of them would certainly change their opinion

Edited by OlympusMons, 30 October 2011 - 09:14 AM.

[OlympusMons]

amy91, on 29 October 2011 - 10:46 PM, said:

Wai diet may help and may not. But it's definetly not for someone who's underweight! I'll visually disappear with my 5'8'' and 110 lbs.

You wouldn't lose weight in Wai Diet if you'd keep sipping fruit juices with a little olive oil thought the day. Because juices and oils contain very little fiber, so that they won't full up your stomach, and at the same time contain lots of calories (and nutrients).
1L of orange juice + 60g of olive oil contain 1000kcal, for instance!
Still, I don't think you're underweight, in terms of health. I think you're model-weighted (I don't know you so I'm obviously joking).

[luckycat]

captainsunshine, on 30 October 2011 - 05:30 AM, said:

luckycat, on 29 October 2011 - 02:43 PM, said:

I am simply trying to ride it out, rather than resort to pills, but all of the signs point to--------> hormonal changes in my case.

Personally, I think you're doing the right thing. It's best to find other avenues toward clear skin, before going down the medication route.

Thanks. There are certainly days when I just want to break down and take whatever pill will get my skin clear NOW, but I fear creating a new, bigger problem. My system is pretty sensitive, too, so I am hoping it responds easily to natural therapies like anti-androgen herbs and antibiotic foods (garlic).

[Maxine958]

Hi all, new user to this website. Looking for some advice on what to try next!! I never ever had acne as a teenager and then at age of 26 I suddenly developed blister like spots on either side of my mouth on my chin. Was initially diagnosed as a herpes infection but did not respond to aciclovir. Eventually diagnosed as acne and prescribed lymecycline. This controlled my symptoms for about 4 years and then suddenly stopped working. Over the last year and a half I have been prescribed minocycline, courses of erythromycin and topical retinol. Nothing has worked. The spots come up very quickly and are in clusters of small blisters to larger lumps under the skin on either side of my mouth. I am currently on dianette but this isn't working either. Spots are sore and often swell and I can sometimes find it difficult to open my mouth. Spots are really shiny and raw making them difficult to cover up with make up....affects my personal and work life.
Does anyone have any advice?

Maxine

[FSAS]

if acne as a teen is due to crazy hormones does anyone know why this transition happens again or is prolonged as an adult? teen years a very specific when it comes to the body changing i guess its interesting when a lot of people i know that have adult acne never had acne as a teen much like myself, yet it seems like once it happens it just doesnt stop? I wish there was an explanation.. our bodies cant possibly be going through the same phases like in the teenage years?

[captainsunshine]

luckycat, on 29 October 2011 - 02:43 PM, said:

Thanks. There are certainly days when I just want to break down and take whatever pill will get my skin clear NOW, but I fear creating a new, bigger problem. My system is pretty sensitive, too, so I am hoping it responds easily to natural therapies like anti-androgen herbs and antibiotic foods (garlic).

Well take it from me, I've had two courses of Accutane, plus two courses of Doxycycline and the only thing that's worked at the end of all that, is a healthy diet.

[FSAS]

captainsunshine, on 01 November 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

luckycat, on 29 October 2011 - 02:43 PM, said:

Thanks. There are certainly days when I just want to break down and take whatever pill will get my skin clear NOW, but I fear creating a new, bigger problem. My system is pretty sensitive, too, so I am hoping it responds easily to natural therapies like anti-androgen herbs and antibiotic foods (garlic).

Well take it from me, I've had two courses of Accutane, plus two courses of Doxycycline and the only thing that's worked at the end of all that, is a healthy diet.

what changes did you make for your diet ? just curious
I suppose with myself I've always had this worry that either way im using hormonal treatment such as the pill and spiro that my diet will never shine through or because my acne is very hormonal related around that time of the month that cutting out wheat and dairy will never truly help me like it has others (i havent touched that stuff for ages and had no change anyway)

[captainsunshine]

FSAS, on 01 November 2011 - 04:45 PM, said:

captainsunshine, on 01 November 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

luckycat, on 29 October 2011 - 02:43 PM, said:

Thanks. There are certainly days when I just want to break down and take whatever pill will get my skin clear NOW, but I fear creating a new, bigger problem. My system is pretty sensitive, too, so I am hoping it responds easily to natural therapies like anti-androgen herbs and antibiotic foods (garlic).

Well take it from me, I've had two courses of Accutane, plus two courses of Doxycycline and the only thing that's worked at the end of all that, is a healthy diet.

what changes did you make for your diet ? just curious
I suppose with myself I've always had this worry that either way im using hormonal treatment such as the pill and spiro that my diet will never shine through or because my acne is very hormonal related around that time of the month that cutting out wheat and dairy will never truly help me like it has others (i havent touched that stuff for ages and had no change anyway)

I'm ultra strict Paleo. No Wheat, Yeast, Rice, Grains, Dairy, Legumes and definitely no sugar. I had a food intolerance test that told me I had a problem with most nuts, so they're out also, and I generally avoid fruit, save for berries once in a blue moon. Been eating like this for two years. Kind of boring and restrictive, but it's gotten me results.

[FSAS]

captainsunshine, on 01 November 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

FSAS, on 01 November 2011 - 04:45 PM, said:

captainsunshine, on 01 November 2011 - 03:37 PM, said:

luckycat, on 29 October 2011 - 02:43 PM, said:

Thanks. There are certainly days when I just want to break down and take whatever pill will get my skin clear NOW, but I fear creating a new, bigger problem. My system is pretty sensitive, too, so I am hoping it responds easily to natural therapies like anti-androgen herbs and antibiotic foods (garlic).

Well take it from me, I've had two courses of Accutane, plus two courses of Doxycycline and the only thing that's worked at the end of all that, is a healthy diet.

what changes did you make for your diet ? just curious
I suppose with myself I've always had this worry that either way im using hormonal treatment such as the pill and spiro that my diet will never shine through or because my acne is very hormonal related around that time of the month that cutting out wheat and dairy will never truly help me like it has others (i havent touched that stuff for ages and had no change anyway)

I'm ultra strict Paleo. No Wheat, Yeast, Rice, Grains, Dairy, Legumes and definitely no sugar. I had a food intolerance test that told me I had a problem with most nuts, so they're out also, and I generally avoid fruit, save for berries once in a blue moon. Been eating like this for two years. Kind of boring and restrictive, but it's gotten me results.

thats really good to hear you've had results. did it take long for you to see them? at the moment i dont eat anything mentioned either except for nuts and the sugar from fruit. what type of acne did you have?

[captainsunshine]

FSAS, on 01 November 2011 - 06:14 PM, said:

thats really good to hear you've had results. did it take long for you to see them? at the moment i dont eat anything mentioned either except for nuts and the sugar from fruit. what type of acne did you have?

From having my back, backside, shoulders, and top of my arms covered with acne, it took around 6 months to get completely clear. Fortunately, I only had a few spots on my face anyway, but they went away too. Still get the odd spot here and there, I put that down to being lazy, not exercising and having a stagnant lymph system. Once you get 100% 'clear', you know your acne is manageable, so the odd spot doesn't seem like the end of the world.

[VanceAstro]

FSAS, on 01 November 2011 - 05:37 AM, said:

if acne as a teen is due to crazy hormones does anyone know why this transition happens again or is prolonged as an adult? teen years a very specific when it comes to the body changing i guess its interesting when a lot of people i know that have adult acne never had acne as a teen much like myself, yet it seems like once it happens it just doesnt stop? I wish there was an explanation.. our bodies cant possibly be going through the same phases like in the teenage years?

Elevated growth factors [increased growth hormone signalling] during puberty results in teenage acne. But why does it persists into adulthood? Probably because of genetic make up and "Western life style" [chronic consumption of insulinothropic dairy products, refined sugars, processed grains etc.].

You can read more here: http://piel-l.org/bl...s._2010_Feb.pdf

Edited by VanceAstro, 06 November 2011 - 03:25 AM.

[changedmynamefinally]

intresting topic, gunna bump it up

[FSAS]

VanceAstro, on 06 November 2011 - 03:17 AM, said:

FSAS, on 01 November 2011 - 05:37 AM, said:

if acne as a teen is due to crazy hormones does anyone know why this transition happens again or is prolonged as an adult? teen years a very specific when it comes to the body changing i guess its interesting when a lot of people i know that have adult acne never had acne as a teen much like myself, yet it seems like once it happens it just doesnt stop? I wish there was an explanation.. our bodies cant possibly be going through the same phases like in the teenage years?

Elevated growth factors [increased growth hormone signalling] during puberty results in teenage acne. But why does it persists into adulthood? Probably because of genetic make up and "Western life style" [chronic consumption of insulinothropic dairy products, refined sugars, processed grains etc.].

You can read more here: http://piel-l.org/bl...s._2010_Feb.pdf

thanks for the link

i suppose im just really confused as for someone like me, and i know of a lot of other thats have tried diet changes, even really extreme that haven't helped. I for example have had dairy for years, I dont eat wheat or grains/gluten etc, processes sguar, cut out a lot of fruit and often eat good fats with any fruit , all those general rules and im worse than ever :/ i hate it really its crazy what ive been doing to see some sort of results..even all my tests come back negative :/ the docs really dont wanna see me anymore because they think im mental making up things like candida or leaky gut.
i only started getting acne this time last year (19/yo)
it happened so suddenly, i really just dont understand why :/