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[freeliving]

Oh so this is your cure. Funny, I did the same thing only with major diet changes and I got clear too. I much prefer cold showers, now, over hot.

Oh yes indeed, I live in a very hot and humid state and I work outside all day so yes cold showers please. There has been several people on this forum that it has worked for as well and it works for other people I know personally, not saying it works for all but yeah similar to your story. I eat pretty healthy now and avoid fast foods, I maybe eat fast food or out once a week.

[helliotion]

It has been said to also build will power and I think it gives us a great resistance against the temptation of junk food. I heard it's also great for anti-aging, I'm rather excited looking so much younger than everyone my age when I start getting old.

Edited by helliotion, 31 August 2011 - 05:48 PM.

[valley32]

gosh, i hope no one really takes this post seriously

doing nothing? yeah right

this can only lead to severe problems

[freeliving]

gosh, i hope no one really takes this post seriously

doing nothing? yeah right

this can only lead to severe problems

Umm, no I am very serious and that's why I came here to share my experience. Why would you bad mouth that, don't be rude. And it isn't just me, there are plenty of other people as well.

Edited by freeliving, 31 August 2011 - 06:08 PM.

[helliotion]

gosh, i hope no one really takes this post seriously

doing nothing? yeah right

this can only lead to severe problems

Freeliving told you to take cold showers without cleansers or any topical treatment. That's not nothing. That's what I do but with a healthy diet, I'm clear now. I think this is a good path to take.

[helliotion]

gosh, i hope no one really takes this post seriously

doing nothing? yeah right

this can only lead to severe problems

Picture this scenario, Adolescent begins to get acne, Adolescent buys many different topical treatments with varied results but no successes, Adolescent matures and hormones level off not knowing that that was what was causing his acne originally, the now 20ish year old continues to buy and use topical treatments unbeknownst that his acne is only still active b.c. of some allergic reaction to his topical treatments and that if he would only stop using them his skin would clear.

[valley32]

sorry, but i disagree

maybe if you have an occasional zit here and there, this would work, and it wouldn't even be this, its probably genetics, some people just do not get acne at all!!!


but if your acne is moderate to severe - you seriously think water will make it better??? allowing the infection to progress will ruin your skin without doing anything

if water is the key, you don't think medical doctors would recommend this?

this post is so irresponsible!

[helliotion]

Definitely the cheapest and easiest solution. It's not the thinking that water will make it better, it's that the treatments we use excessively or they do more harm than good to our skin and that if they were there some of us could get clear. Obviously, this won't work for everyone, only a select few.

[freeliving]

sorry, but i disagree

maybe if you have an occasional zit here and there, this would work, and it wouldn't even be this, its probably genetics, some people just do not get acne at all!!!


but if your acne is moderate to severe - you seriously think water will make it better??? allowing the infection to progress will ruin your skin without doing anything

if water is the key, you don't think medical doctors would recommend this?

this post is so irresponsible!

Did you not read my post? I explain sebum and the acid mantle and I read that in many books and letters by dermatologists. It works for me and it very much could be genetics, but as seeing the results work for people I know and see everyday and people on blogs rant and rave about it so yeah I believe it can work for others as well. You shouldn't be so rush to judgment, who knows maybe it could work for you?

Just look at that huge list of ingredients you are putting on your face in the morning and night, did you ever consider that is unhealthy and unnatural for the skin? Genetics did not make you who you are so you could mix all sorts of exotic materials together just to wash your face.

Edited by freeliving, 31 August 2011 - 07:56 PM.

[alternativista]

sorry, but i disagree

maybe if you have an occasional zit here and there, this would work, and it wouldn't even be this, its probably genetics, some people just do not get acne at all!!!

but if your acne is moderate to severe - you seriously think water will make it better??? allowing the infection to progress will ruin your skin without doing anything

if water is the key, you don't think medical doctors would recommend this?

this post is so irresponsible!

Actually, the part about not using harsh cleansers and topicals is good advice. It just is highly unlikely enough to clear you. There are many more factors involved in acne and bacteria is about the least important. It's not where you should focus your efforts. However, your skin is meant to have an acidic layer that inhibits any microbes. But you wash it off everytime you use an alkaline soap or cleanser or apply topicals and don't restore it by applying something acidic. This is the reason so many people use diluted ACV. Even water is slightly alkaline, but your skin can recover from that quickly. Not so much with the soap.

And no, medical doctors would not recommend that just like they don't recommend healthy diet and lifestyle which is the key.

[freeliving]

sorry, but i disagree

maybe if you have an occasional zit here and there, this would work, and it wouldn't even be this, its probably genetics, some people just do not get acne at all!!!

but if your acne is moderate to severe - you seriously think water will make it better??? allowing the infection to progress will ruin your skin without doing anything

if water is the key, you don't think medical doctors would recommend this?

this post is so irresponsible!

Actually, the part about not using harsh cleansers and topicals is good advice. It just is highly unlikely enough to clear you. There are many more factors involved in acne and bacteria is about the least important. It's not where you should focus your efforts. However, your skin is meant to have an acidic layer that inhibits any microbes. But you wash it off everytime you use an alkaline soap or cleanser or apply topicals and don't restore it by applying something acidic. This is the reason so many people use diluted ACV. Even water is slightly alkaline, but your skin can recover from that quickly. Not so much with the soap.

And no, medical doctors would not recommend that just like they don't recommend healthy diet and lifestyle which is the key.

Very good points indeed. Although I have no idea where you are seeing or saying it is highly unlikely it will clear your skin? Have you tried it?

I am here to help people, but I can only do so if you have factual things that say it is bad to do this or that and even at that I am still clear so IDK. I just think a lot of people brainwash themselves with this whole regiment business and think something so simple and easy could never ever work in a million years. That sounds like when NASA spent a shit load of money on a pen for space, while the Russians just simply used a pencil.

[ayla]

very few people in *this* forum use topicals, or the regimen. Most of the posters here advocate healthy diet, exercise, and clean body/face care products. 'Clean' meaning free of harmful and unnecessary chemicals.

It's unlikely that switching to chemical free skin care alone will clear a person, unless their acne is solely a topical allergy. Most people's is, unfortunately, not.

Edited by ayla, 31 August 2011 - 08:43 PM.

[alternativista]

Very good points indeed. Although I have no idea where you are seeing or saying it is highly unlikely it will clear your skin? Have you tried it?

I am here to help people, but I can only do so if you have factual things that say it is bad to do this or that and even at that I am still clear so IDK.

I have tried it and have already told you so. And I have not said it is bad to do this. I have said the opposite very clearly many times and have been advising it for a very long time. It's well known here and followed by many people. You have not brought any new information to the table.

It is unlikely to clear people because the bacteria/infection stage is the least important stage and factor in acne formation. First the pore gets clogged due to our tendency towards hyperkeratinization and chronic silent inflammation that causes cells to be malformed in the first place, not exfoliate freely, stick together and clog the pore. This is stimulated by hormones such as IGF1 which is in dairy and is also produced in the body stimulated by insulin. Excess IGF1 is stimulated by excess insulin which is stimulated by a high glycemic diet. Inflammation is stimulated by high glycemic diets, omega 6 EFAs, hydrogenated/trans fats, and anything you have an intolerance for, while not consuming enough anti-inflammatory foods to counter the effect. Stress also causes inflammation by causing the release of certain hormones. Which is why stress is a factor. Sleep and physical activity play important roles in how well your body manages sugar, stress, times the release of hormones, etc.

And very few people you are talking to here use this 'regimen business' so I don't get why you keep bringing it up. You are arguing about things no one is saying.

Edited by alternativista, 31 August 2011 - 09:03 PM.

[alternativista]

very few people in *this* forum use topicals, or the regimen. Most of the posters here advocate healthy diet, exercise, and clean body/face care products. 'Clean' meaning free of harmful and unnecessary chemicals.

It's unlikely that switching to chemical free skin care alone will clear a person, unless their acne is solely a topical allergy. Most people's is, unfortunately, not.

[Sima]

To the OP:

What is the point of posting the same thing over and over again? You've made it pretty clear that the water-only regimen is great for you and encourage others to do the same. Okay, that's wonderful, but you do realize that you are in the 'nutrition and holistic health' section, right? Routines are water-only, stopping the usage of harsh chemicals, using essential oils to cleanse the face, etc. are all things that have been mentioned on this forum. Why do you feel the need to restate your point in 100 different ways? It all leads back to the same conclusion: you are convinced that if people wash with water and nothing else, their acne will clear. We get it.

[needinghelp]

Also to the OP. MANY of us here DID only used to use water. Acne started somewhere along the lines. Most of us didn't look to treat our acne until we had it. Clearly water cannot and does not keep acne at bay for all people, ESPECIALLY those of us with more moderate to severe cases.

[freeliving]

100 times? You easily over exaggerate. Does this bother you I stated it in replies to people as my answer to their question? Apparently it does. I am trying to share my experience with people, I stated that it will not work for everyone. Should I just leave the forums and not give my opinion. I am not the only one on here that shares the same view, terrific even better.

Did I say this will work for all people?

Edited by freeliving, 01 September 2011 - 04:42 AM.

[freeliving]

To the OP:

What is the point of posting the same thing over and over again? You've made it pretty clear that the water-only regimen is great for you and encourage others to do the same. Okay, that's wonderful, but you do realize that you are in the 'nutrition and holistic health' section, right? Routines are water-only, stopping the usage of harsh chemicals, using essential oils to cleanse the face, etc. are all things that have been mentioned on this forum. Why do you feel the need to restate your point in 100 different ways? It all leads back to the same conclusion: you are convinced that if people wash with water and nothing else, their acne will clear. We get it.

And for the record the moderators placed my post here, it was in a different thread before, so I just rolled with it as they saw fit.

[freeliving]

Also to the OP. MANY of us here DID only used to use water. Acne started somewhere along the lines. Most of us didn't look to treat our acne until we had it. Clearly water cannot and does not keep acne at bay for all people, ESPECIALLY those of us with more moderate to severe cases.

I get it, it doesn't work for you. I have seen this work on people with moderate acne and even one severe acne case, it took them about 3 months to recover their skin back to normal radiant skin. If this never worked for you, when why are you still here? I'd be looking elsewhere for a recommendations.

Edited by freeliving, 01 September 2011 - 04:52 AM.

[needinghelp]

Also to the OP. MANY of us here DID only used to use water. Acne started somewhere along the lines. Most of us didn't look to treat our acne until we had it. Clearly water cannot and does not keep acne at bay for all people, ESPECIALLY those of us with more moderate to severe cases.

I get it, it doesn't work for you. I have seen this work on people with moderate acne and even one severe acne case, it took them about 3 months to recover their skin back to normal radiant skin. If this never worked for you, when why are you still here? I'd be looking elsewhere for a recommendations.

Are you seriously even reading before you reply? Because it does not seem like you know what your replying to throughout these boards. specifically, the "If this never worked for you, why are you still here" comment. What does that even mean? You think that because your little plan didn't work for me I shouldn't be on these boards? People exist in this community to look for solutions and get support from others going through the same thing. I see that you are new here. Many of us are not. Many of us have tried the method that you are posting EVERYWHERE as if you have found a cure. Your cure DOES NOT WORK FOR EVERYONE. I think that's all that some of us are trying to tell you. Not sure why you think that means I need go "look somewhere else for recommendations".... That actually makes no sense whatsoever.