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[frenchman]

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Edited by frenchman, 26 August 2011 - 11:29 AM.

[Vanbelle]

Surfactants also strip the lipid layer of the skin, which disrupt the acid mantle and lead to overproduction of sebum and natural cell turnover. Sebum and over-accumulation of dead skin cells within the pore create comedones.

Beyonce doesn't wash her face. I call it, the "Sasha Fierce" method (or water-only, but that sounds better ).

Edited by Sarah., 07 August 2011 - 01:46 AM.

[don't got milk]

GAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! LOVE this post! The basic idea here is to live healthy and avoid synthetic chemicals, eh?

Yeah, right when I switched back to fluoride-containing, added sugar toothpaste and garnier shampoo, I noticed I broke out more. And when I used commercial body washes (through the roof with synthetic chemicals and surfactants) I had a great deal of body acne. Now, I use all natural Dr. Bronner's (totally organic, nothing synthetic) and some acv/tea tree oil. Lo and behold, body acne dissapeared.

Quitting facial wash for me is risky, since I always initially break out from it (although I'm sure if I stuck it out, I'd improve), and since college is right around the corner, I'd feel safter sticking to it. But I really like these ideas. I just got all natural toothpaste, no sugar, no fluoride, and no SLS. I'm quitting garnier, and might go to baking soda and acv.

My diet's safe, no milk, limited sugar, no common allergens. So I'll do part of step one, all of steps 2-5, and post back with some results

[radikal]

@frenchman
your hypothesis (separate hyperkeratosis from lipid metabolism) does not explain acne prior to the introduction of industrial surfactants. Acne is documented from antiquity.

[bryan]

Surfactants also strip the lipid layer of the skin, which disrupt the acid mantle and lead to overproduction of sebum and natural cell turnover.

Do you know of any scientific evidence to support the claim that surfactants lead to overproduction of sebum, or is that just one of those persistent rumors on acne.org that refuse to die a natural death?

[frenchman]

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[frenchman]

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[Xaphan]

Good luck avoiding synthetic compounds in this day and age.

[radikal]

Apolipoprotein A-I is the major protein component of high density lipoprotein. So acne genetics seems to be related to altered lipid metabolism.

I've become convinced of the same recently, following a number of different leads. Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inborn_error_...ipid_metabolism

I'm suspecting this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnitine_pal...e_II_deficiency
or this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium-chain_...nase_deficiency

let's see if we can come up with a testable hypothesis which fits *all* available facts; have you studied biochem to a point where you can make sense of this?
Check out this thread, pointing in the same direction:
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/cleared-a...rs-t288705.html

Edited by radikal, 14 August 2011 - 07:47 AM.

[frenchman]

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Edited by frenchman, 26 August 2011 - 11:28 AM.