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[TheMedic]

First post on this site, been watching it for years.

Here is my vague experience; specific foods in my case seem to be the trigger. Seeing as how breakouts turned into something horribly traumatizing, I decided not to do experiments on what causes break outs and what doesn't. For me, a break out brings back some raw pain. Flash backs I wouldn't care to think about, I'm sure some of you know this all too well.

Problem with my techniques is deficiency, I get so limited on foods that other parts of my body are probably suffering. So what have I found triggers acne?

1. Mangoes
2. Oranges + Orange Juice(But not minute maid or tropicana...NO idea why.)
3. Nuts
4. Seeds
5. Tons of different fruits(not sure on veggies)
6. Some milk. For example a jar of organic kefir, and my back will break out in huge pus filled cysts. But I've gotten away with chugging two leters of chocolate milk 1% skim a day for months on end with absolutely no breakouts. Butter I haven't found causes problems.
7. DHEA hormones(played around with them when I was twenty one, shouldn't screw with hormones until you're an adult.)
8. Meats MAYBE(Skin has been clear for months but I just got my first facial cysts in over tears.)
9. Constipation always makes things worse. Nuts, seeds, legumes, certain fruits and veg are natorious for blocking me up.
10. Tap water MAYBE(still playing with this concept. Again, I don't like to experiment much it's still heavy trauma for me to see a big cyst pop up.)

List goes on, I'm making my self post now so I'll be forced to come back.

I've lived on bags of potato chips, packs of cigarettes, beer, soda pop and chocolate milk for months with not a single breakout. Don't let this discourage you though from doing good diets, I don't know any certainties on why this happens. You could find my methods would destroy your skin, I wouldn't be suprised oh the headaches of complexity. I'm sure my controversial findings will stir the pot with some though. Been on the most hardcore organic diets you can imagine, raw vegan(regular + 80/10/10), fruitarian, raw meat eating, vegetarian, and had dirty cysts all over my face. Done around five or six fasts, one thirty days. Anti parasites, anti biotics, face creams, colonics, coffee enemas, zinc therapy, chelation therapy(had to stop made be extremely sick), iodine therapy, thirty liver flushes, TCM, candida, cannabis oil, high dose vitamin C, Rife, zappers #!&% you name it. Hell the only thing I didn't do was drink my own urine. lol. None of it cured nothing, and my belief is the acne flared up and down from random diet triggers but the root cause? It didn't even dent it. However only one thing came from all of this, that to this day I appreciate... one to two bowel movements a day. That's pretty sweet, as long as I don't eat high ingredient foods.

Right now I'm going to figure out whats causing these new cysts, could be something to do with high protein or ingredients in the animal fat. Oh and I did that whey diet thing, didn't work. There is some Science happening here and I just can't put my finger on it. It's a group of specific triggers, but the root cause is probably something more ancient. As far as what is actually happening without serious Scientific investigation I can't really know. But I've pondered on the concept that bacteria reside in control in the skin, specific food ingredients seep out of the intestines and distribute based on exit points in the intestinal track. So if it leaks out in certain flow areas, it will end up distributing based on where it exits, the type of material it is and where ever it deposits in the skin it allows a minor infection to occur. Hormone relation would add a lot of complexity to this, damage to the adrenals by poisons, damage to the livers detox pathways, damage to the thyroid maybe. Immune system responses, inflammation occurs ect you know the rest. Distribution patterns in the blood stream are widely known. You got like one kind of toxic metal that will concentrate more in one organ than the other. You got one drug that will be excreted by the kidneys and not the liver so on and so fourth. I've also pondered on tiny little particles carrying none sepsis inducing bacteria through the bloody stream, maybe fungi.

Another one of my theories on the root cause is we did this to our selves a long time ago. Something like we went digging in the Earth, made and cleaned weapons with poison, screwed our genes around, got infected with viruses, bacteria, parasites, created a constant cycle of exposure to toxic elements ect. One day it will be cured, but as of this moment all we got is treatment. So many things I've thought about, but really it's not as important as finding something that bloody works. Who gives a crap how it works, as long as it works and doesn't mutate our sperm and ovaries producing mutant freaks...mutant freaks is always a bad sign in science. lol.

I don't necessarily recommend going nuts on stripping things out of your diet. Then again I'm seeing some of your photos people and you know you got to do something. Some of you are really in pain, it's terrible to see. In my case I've managed to have long periods of remission, unfortunately the damage was done. I was able to tone down my acne and ended up realizing through all that time my nerves had been fired up too much. Came out with stress disorders, bipolar, OCD, GAD...hell I went into it with ADHD and that didn't help at all. I'm sure some of you know, after around three or four years it's kind of like '%#!@ the mirror, I ain't looking no more. Don't want to see my face rotting.' I still wash my hands and feel horror when I look up the mirror, and some days I look up and my skin is perfectly normal but...my body and brain haven't forgotten. Can we go through worse? Sure...you can get kidnapped, raped then sent through a buzz saw but that ain't none of our business. Deal with the pain in front of us. Is some dirtbag really going to tell us to get used to our pain? To hell with those scumbag swines, you think those dirt balls helped me in my life? Hahaha. You think those swine actually do much good for the Earth? Nah, they just hang back and drive the pain deeper. Forgiveness I suppose...they know not what they do right? lol.

Anyway...I wouldn't recommend anyone do what I did, but I'm sure with all the crazy adventures I've been on the clues to figuring solid dietary treatment(for some people) exists.

It's been so long since I've had these deep cysts, but I HAVE been venturing out of my diet range which is...always how this starts. I remember many months back I got hooked on Gyro on a pita, Tzatziki and all. OH the big dirty bastard that jumped up on my nose. lol.

Finally, I remember when my whole face was coated in cystic acne and some TCM guy told me I would have to change my diet. He was right...but also wrong. The diet he would have gotten me on wouldn't have solved the issue, the crazy insane bloody painfully torturous diet that I've been finding slowly through trial and error...well it's working. Most people wouldn't have found what I did...as most people aren't insane like me.

I don't do creams no more, no medications, no supplements just food abstinence. When these two cysts vanish, I'll report back. I think I’ll keep a food diary for some of you, let you see how much I don’t eat. What triggered me to come here was I just hadn't felt the pain of acne for a while. Then I got these dirtbags on my flesh and remembered that... deep hurt. I drop in here and see how bad some of you are doing. Some of you are in a flesh torture chamber...when I was at my worst it was grams of weed and sniffing speed, ecstasy, chugging the 26's ect to make me forget. Ten long years of acne...some periods better some periods worse. Going to think on this for a couple of days.

[Victorious D]

Hey, I read all of that and I feel you. Even the part where people are trying to tell you to just get over it, though I don't resent them that much. It's really that pervasive feeling of helplessness that sucks the worst, when you've up and down scouring the earth for the answer to why these stupid spots are on your face and nothing is clear. Going to bed thinking it looks slightly better and then waking up to an even more inflamed face with the same shit from before except worse is terribly frustrating. And when you have places to go, people to see?

How old are you? Was Accutaine on the list of stuff you tried?

[TheMedic]

Hey, I read all of that and I feel you. Even the part where people are trying to tell you to just get over it, though I don't resent them that much. It's really that pervasive feeling of helplessness that sucks the worst, when you've up and down scouring the earth for the answer to why these stupid spots are on your face and nothing is clear. Going to bed thinking it looks slightly better and then waking up to an even more inflamed face with the same shit from before except worse is terribly frustrating. And when you have places to go, people to see?

How old are you? Was Accutaine on the list of stuff you tried?

Hey man, twenty two now. Acutance was something a dermatologist said I absolutely needed to be on. When I saw the side effects of the drug I concluded I didn't want that road. Don't blame others for walking it though.

Forgot to mention something. When people say to us, "It could be worse." Remember that odds are, you could go through a warzone and after all that still be horrified by your skin condition. You may forget about it during serious times, but I'm willing to bet many would look in the mirror again and the same pain would come back. Just one of those things that ninenty nine percent of people no matter what they have been through, will be very unhappy with.

[TheMedic]

Hey, I read all of that and I feel you. Even the part where people are trying to tell you to just get over it, though I don't resent them that much. It's really that pervasive feeling of helplessness that sucks the worst, when you've up and down scouring the earth for the answer to why these stupid spots are on your face and nothing is clear. Going to bed thinking it looks slightly better and then waking up to an even more inflamed face with the same shit from before except worse is terribly frustrating. And when you have places to go, people to see?

How old are you? Was Accutaine on the list of stuff you tried?

Yeah, taking a look at your photos I can see how that would be painful. It's not horrible, but as usual bad enough to trigger your mind to meltdown. Doesn't look like your flesh is damaged though, which is a good thing if you can finally find the solution you're looking for.

[TheMedic]

Okay, acne is healing I'm pretty sure it was either the canned minutemade OJ or the large amounts of beef I was eating. There is that protein theory which I don't think is fully true, some would claim it would be the hormoans in the meat. My theory? If it was the meat, then I think it was something in the fat. Possibly a combination. We'll see, I'll report back.

[psych0sis]

Okay, acne is healing I'm pretty sure it was either the canned minutemade OJ or the large amounts of beef I was eating. There is that protein theory which I don't think is fully true, some would claim it would be the hormoans in the meat. My theory? If it was the meat, then I think it was something in the fat. Possibly a combination. We'll see, I'll report back.

Thanks for the update, keep us posted

[TheMedic]

Okay, acne healed up. My diet while I was breaking out was lots of fatty cuts of steak, synthetic fruit popsicles, frozen juice out of the can, chocolate milk, shreddies. Stopped eating all the steak, popsicles and frozen juice. No idea which was making the flare occur. Right now I drink about two leters of chocolate milk a day, and I get maybe a cyst here or there on my shoulders and back. So weird. All in all though for some reason this kind of dairy doesn't make me break out. Now organic kefir as I said before, holy crap my back turns into a fire pit.

Edited by TheMedic, 19 June 2011 - 08:57 PM.

[Timehealsall]

holy crap man... reading your post i really feel for you.

So basically, you do not eat anything at all in order for your skin to heal the acne??

I am going on a 80-20 alkaline acidic diet for a few weeks and than performing a liver flush via apple fast and pineapple fat (epsolm salts etc etc). What do you think about that? Should i do it?


GL man

[TheMedic]

holy crap man... reading your post i really feel for you.

So basically, you do not eat anything at all in order for your skin to heal the acne??

I am going on a 80-20 alkaline acidic diet for a few weeks and than performing a liver flush via apple fast and pineapple fat (epsolm salts etc etc). What do you think about that? Should i do it?


GL man

I don't think you should do the liver flush. There is no literature that explains what is happening during a flush, there is no proven understanding of it. A lot of people get way sicker doing liver flushes, you can get a benefit here and there but the risk of doing these radical protocalls is you could end up with acne compounded with other strange physical symptoms that most likely won't be showing up on blood panels. A lot of these alternative protocalls are not snake oil bogus claims, their witch doctor medicine that can end up making you better in one way and sicker in another. As far as diets go just remember to get the range of nutrients plus vitamins and enough calories. Unless you're becoming suicidal over your acne. If that's the case then either take some meds and get some therapy to cool off or do a gradual elimination diet. However...if you're a youthful ADHD sufferer then most likely you will screw up an elimination diet, lol. Personaly I don't think about nutrients ect. Which could end up hurting me in other ways. But remaining dominant over my acne condition allows me to remember I overcame a bunch of fake scientific religious bought and paid for zealots.

So again, the alkaline diet maybe alright for a few weeks it shouldn't be too bad. Liver flushing, unless you're desperate then stay clear of them. That is until a real doctor/researcher/scientist comes along and refuses to believe his professors and dogmatic lunatic colleagues and finds a way to really explain everything that is happening. Oh yes...and he will also need to be a...billionare. rofl.

...and of course I'm not a doctor. This is just my none profession unlicenced opinion and none of this should be taken for valid medical advice. You should speak with your family physician on these matters...and hope your family physician is not a brain dead brain washed egomaniac.

Edited by TheMedic, 21 June 2011 - 12:10 PM.

[TheMedic]

Update: eating lots of pumpkin pie. It tastes so good. Breaking out slightly. I'm also feeling apprhensive and very fundamentalist like. I think I would be the perfect candidate for the twinky defense.

[TheMedic]

I haven't posted in a while but I wanted to update...nothing has changed. I can turn my acne on and off still to this day. Chocolate milk and shreddies people that's how I do it. I'm in complete control.