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#1 tross87

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 03:36 PM

Long post tldr at bottom.

Hey all, I don't post here much but I've been lurking for quite a while. I found out about blue light treatments from Tria ads awhile ago and since then I've found some better looking companies. Tria forces you to have to buy a cartridge every month or so, so it ends up costing a lot. I guess my acne would be considered mild but it used to be a lot worse so I have some scars and would like to buy a product that also allows the use of red light to help with that.
I seem to respond well to the sun and since these things are both light I'm very hopeful that it'll do me some good, I read the faq and think these ones looked the best.

edit: I can't get the links to show for some reason but they are,
Lumiport
Acne lamp
Tanda

Sorry just paste them into google they're the first ones that come up.

The lumiport is the same price as the acnelamp handheld models but smaller. On the other hand it is able to switch into blue, red or both at the same time where as the acnelamp can only do both at the same time as far as I know. Using both at the same time seems a little gimmicky to me, I'd prefer using blue and red separately. The acnelamp does seem better built though, does anybody know if the led heads are interchangeable?

And then there's Tanda, I was looking at the professional model although I'm unsure of the differences between it and the prestige besides what I'm about the mention. The Tanda does not use a cartridge like the Tria does but it says the led heads last for 10,000 3 minute sessions for the professional and 6,000 for the prestige. I did the math for the professional and it would last about 500 hours, this translates into almost 21 days of being on 24/7. At first I thought this was just a way to suck more money from a customer like the Tria cartridge system but I noticed Acnelamp also offers replacement heads, so is it reasonable for the leds to lose their effectiveness after being used this long? These things are 75-100 dollars each so I want to know if it's just a money making scheme.

I'm leaning towards the Tanda even though it is the most expensive by far since I would have to buy the actual package and then also buy the other color head. I'm pretty sure it doesn't come with both. I'd like to hear what people think and any personal experience with any of these or others would be appreciated. Also I want to know about combining blue and red lights, it just seems like a gimmick and like it would have a different effect on the skin since it is an entirely different color?

tldr: which blue/red light product should I buy?

Edited by tross87, 30 April 2011 - 03:41 PM.


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Posted 30 April 2011 - 04:31 PM

I was just reading this on Science Daily

I guess I need to get caught up on the light/laser methods. I, personally, would probably have a professional do it, but I know that's got to be ridiculously expensive.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE (MG2011 @ Apr 30 2011, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was just reading this on

I guess I need to get caught up on the light/laser methods. I, personally, would probably have a professional do it, but I know that's got to be ridiculously expensive.

Yeah, too rich for my blood.

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Posted 01 May 2011 - 10:42 AM

I just ordered two bulbs from Light-therapy-LED.com, one blue and one red and blue. Thankfully I don't suffer from full on acne but have always had problems with spotty skin, tired of all the overpriced skin creams and scrubs, like the idea of killing the bacteria at source before it causes problems.

£22 each and free postage, bargain.

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Posted 01 May 2011 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE (stvn758 @ May 1 2011, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just ordered two bulbs from Light-therapy-LED.com, one blue and one red and blue. Thankfully I don't suffer from full on acne but have always had problems with spotty skin, tired of all the overpriced skin creams and scrubs, like the idea of killing the bacteria at source before it causes problems.

£22 each and free postage, bargain.

I wonder if they work as well as the more expensive products, what are you planning to use the bulb in? I can't tell exactly how big they are from the pictures. They look like a good option too though, certainly cheaper than the rest.
I still want to learn more about combining the red/blue lights if anyone has any experience with them.


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Posted 02 May 2011 - 12:24 PM

QUOTE (tross87 @ May 1 2011, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (stvn758 @ May 1 2011, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just ordered two bulbs from Light-therapy-LED.com, one blue and one red and blue. Thankfully I don't suffer from full on acne but have always had problems with spotty skin, tired of all the overpriced skin creams and scrubs, like the idea of killing the bacteria at source before it causes problems.

£22 each and free postage, bargain.

I wonder if they work as well as the more expensive products, what are you planning to use the bulb in? I can't tell exactly how big they are from the pictures. They look like a good option too though, certainly cheaper than the rest.
I still want to learn more about combining the red/blue lights if anyone has any experience with them.


I'll put them in an ordinary desktop lamp, one with a flexible stem so I can adjust it towards my face. There are a few more affordable blue light devices on Ebay appearing now, but these ones have the right 415nm 660nm wavelengths - if they work great if not I am not out of pocket for more than a few Clearasil facial scrubs I would of been buying anyhow.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 01:30 AM

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I'll put them in an ordinary desktop lamp, one with a flexible stem so I can adjust it towards my face. There are a few more affordable blue light devices on Ebay appearing now, but these ones have the right 415nm 660nm wavelengths - if they work great if not I am not out of pocket for more than a few Clearasil facial scrubs I would of been buying anyhow.

http://www.homephototherapy.com/acne/image...ish-journal.pdf
Not sure if you're interested in learning differences between using blue, blue/red separately or blue/red combined but I found that article which sheds some light on it, and you're the only one really responding XD. They don't specifically say if they used a separate or combined blue/red light but they did conclude that using both instead of just blue was more efficient.

I hope the bulbs are as bright as they say they are on the site, I'm pretty certain I'm going to go ahead and get one of them, I'd rather a handheld type thing because it is more convenient but screw paying an extra 200+ for convenience. Now I just have to decide on a lamp and whether to get a separate blue/red or a combined one.
Maybe the one they link on the site, I checked some other lamps out on the same site they linked and;
http://www.lampsplus.com/products/pro-trac...ght__63413.html
Do you think something like that would work? Wtf powers those, I'm probably just not thinking because it's late but does it run on batteries?
I'm not sure how to find out what it would fit in.

Edited by tross87, 05 May 2011 - 01:33 AM.


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Posted 05 May 2011 - 11:29 AM

You can get twin bulbed lamps, so I might get one of those and have both going at once as that seems to be the best method. Until they arrive I won't know how bright they are or what type of area they cover. The spotlight idea looks good to increase the brightness, want the light to go deep not just bounce off the surface.



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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:51 PM

My BLUE BULB has arrived and I am very happy with it, has a purple tint to it. I can certainly see a difference in skin tone - after using every scrub and cream for God knows how many years light therapy really does give instant results. I also find shaving with a razor isn't so awful either - usually I would be covered with scrapes and get lumpy spots from ingrown hairs, the light really does heal things faster. Waiting for the RED bulb to arrive.

The bulb is small but well made and for £20 and free postage is good value for money by comparison to every other device I have seen.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:46 PM

Woops I thought I answered to your last post, I think I mightve closed the browser before hitting add reply on accident.
I'm glad it's working for you and I can def relate with the razor thing except for the ingrown hairs, I've only ever had one of those but it did leave the biggest scar I have and it was pretty horrible.

I'm puzzled on how it'll fit into most lamps since it looks shaped like a saucer compared to the pear shape of a normal bulb, how does that work?

I was going to get the dual colored bulb but after noticing that only 11 of the leds on it are blue, I decided to go for the full blue one instead. I'll have to wait until a friend of mine pays me back for some $ I lent him though and then I can get the red one next time I get paid and I'll be good to go.

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 06:30 AM

QUOTE (tross87 @ May 11 2011, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Woops I thought I answered to your last post, I think I mightve closed the browser before hitting add reply on accident.
I'm glad it's working for you and I can def relate with the razor thing except for the ingrown hairs, I've only ever had one of those but it did leave the biggest scar I have and it was pretty horrible.

I'm puzzled on how it'll fit into most lamps since it looks shaped like a saucer compared to the pear shape of a normal bulb, how does that work?

I was going to get the dual colored bulb but after noticing that only 11 of the leds on it are blue, I decided to go for the full blue one instead. I'll have to wait until a friend of mine pays me back for some $ I lent him though and then I can get the red one next time I get paid and I'll be good to go.



It's an easy fit, it looks huge on the website but it's actually quite small in reality. Gives good coverage though, depends on how close you have the bulb to your face - I like it very very close so the light gets right through the skin and kills that scummy bacteria. biggrin.gif




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Posted 11 May 2011 - 09:28 PM

Yup I think every light product recommends it to be close. Well I ordered a blue bulb, hopefully it wont take too long.

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 05:29 PM

I use the TandaZAP and I actually really like it. I have definitelly seen an improvement in my skin since using it. It combines blue light with heat and vibration, it's also only $50.

The only problem is that it is so small so you only use it on certain areas at each 2 minute interval. It's a great spot treatment though.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 09:55 AM

omnilux clear u , its stronger than all of those other ones




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