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[dirtymanjames]

Basically if I dont put moisturizer on my face is really dry yet through out the day it gets really dry oily and shiny which really bugs me . If I put moisturizer on my skin won't be dry at all at first but it makes my face look redder , shinier , and after about 2 hours my face will be somewhat try again and feel really oily and look shiny... Is there a way I can keep my skin moist and smooth , yet not get really shiny skin? Im male btw , 17 yrs.

[dirtymanjames]

Sounds like dehydrated skin that is also reacting poorly to the moisturizer. IF it makes your skin more red, it's likely irritating your skin.

I can't tell you what to use, because there is no way to tell you what will work for your skin - you just have to look up brands and reviews.

But what do you cleanse your face with? Dehydration is almost always from using harsh products. So if anything you have is medicated or has a strong lather, stop using it for a while, see what happens.

Uhm I use doctor prescribed Delacin-T, but uhm I use Cetaphil moisturizer

[dirtymanjames]

Delacin-T is a medicated product. Which means that it's likely causing the issue. It might even be causing the redness, not the moisturizer.

# Dalacin T solution contains propylene glycol which may cause skin irritation.
# Dalacin T lotion contains cetostearyl alcohol which may cause skin reactions such as dermatitis.

I'd recommend that you stop using it for a while, just use the lotion. See what happens. If you need to use it, use it only on areas that are actually broken out. If this doesn't help, then Cetaphil is obviously just not for your skin. There are reviews on this website if you want to check them out. I can't recommend anything because all lotions I've tried have not absorbed at all, leaving me with the same dry/tight yet oily finish. But I know that some of that has to do with how I'd cleanse my face, as my cleansers have all been drying/stripping/irritating in some way.

Okay , thanks for the help. Im only on the Dalacin-T until the end of January I believe so I can handle it until then , hopefully once I'm off it my skin isn't so dehydrated.

[Cubed]

dehydrated skin is no joke. try using niacinamide until the skin condition gets better. niacinamide products include olay regenerist, total effects, and definity. also nia 24 (but it is very expensive). you can also make your own with some niacinamide powder from vitamin shoppe and some water or aloe vera gel/juice. niacinamide stimulates the production of ceramides, fatty acids, and i think cholesterol in the skin. which are all essential in keeping water in the skin and from keeping your skin from going on oil over drive. some other ingredients like linoleic acid helps but it's hard to get a stable source of that stuff because once that stuff goes rancid it aint no help to anybody. grapeseed oil is high in it and safflower oil....but like i said, once it goes rancid it will definitely cause acne...it becomes poreclogging...but linoleic acid has an almost immediate effect...but you need continuous use of it to be beneficial...but my skin looked immediately better after using grapeseed oil for the first time...niacinamide has helped immensely with my oil production. i used to look like connect the dot face...now my skin is just oily but somewhat dewy. i still have crepey lines but it's getting better i think with continued use...i've used niacinamide for about 1 and half now. 2 months in february. but niacinamide is more of a short term product like i said because word around town is that it may stop an enzyme called sirt 1 from working which is supposed to help with slowing down aging. so just use it until your skin gets better and then treat your skin better after it's healed. NO SOAP. no harsh products. NO ALCOHOL ON FACE. no drying products. that will take away precious lipids. FLAX SEED OIL also helps. i read on pub med that it helps reduce Transepidermal water loss by like 10% after 8 weeks which can only help I say...so try it but flax goes rancid pretty quickly too so get a high quality brand from like whole foods or something that they have in a cooler...keeping it cool keeps it fresh...oxygen and light destroys the beneficial stuff

hope this info helps because yes, i have dehydrated skin, yes i have been battling it for years, yes i think i know what i'm talking about

l-lactic acid also stimulates ceramide production but it might take longer....

Edited by Cubed, 19 January 2011 - 01:49 AM.

[bryan]

niacinamide stimulates the production of ceramides, fatty acids, and i think cholesterol in the skin. which are all essential in keeping water in the skin and from keeping your skin from going on oil over drive.

"Oil", as in sebum? Are you trying to resurrect the old idea that a lack of moisture in the skin stimulates sebum production?

[Cubed]

niacinamide stimulates the production of ceramides, fatty acids, and i think cholesterol in the skin. which are all essential in keeping water in the skin and from keeping your skin from going on oil over drive.

"Oil", as in sebum? Are you trying to resurrect the old idea that a lack of moisture in the skin stimulates sebum production?

oh well, when the skin barrier is not working properly i'm sure the skin gets oilier because that's what happened to me...but i guess oilier skin can be caused by other things. my skin, before niacinamide, used to look like connect the dots throughout the day with oil, now it doesn't look like that...it took about 1 month and 19 days but it doesn't look that bad anymore idk im just going off my own experience

[wicky]

how much niancinamide are you taking a day? I just started taking it last week and im taking 500mg twice a day.my skin is exactly how you described...oily underneath and dry on top...This creates many clogged pores to the point where i have to pick them out individually with a tweezer..sorry to be gross..They're all like llittle grains that i have to pull out and when its dry its really bad...They never seem so bad when im moistuized but i cant find something my skin agrees with...

[bryan]

oh well, when the skin barrier is not working properly i'm sure the skin gets oilier because that's what happened to me...but i guess oilier skin can be caused by other things.

I've done a fair amount of reading over the years in medical textbooks and journals about issues having to do with how the sebaceous glands work, and I don't recall ever seeing anything about them acting in response to some other specific condition, like levels of moisture or dryness in the skin, how much the skin is being washed, etc. The only things I know for sure that they react to is levels of sex hormones, including both androgens and estrogens, and the drug Accutane, of course. Anything else that I see people making claims about as increasing or decreasing sebum production, I automatically find pretty suspicious and doubtful.

[Cubed]

oh well, when the skin barrier is not working properly i'm sure the skin gets oilier because that's what happened to me...but i guess oilier skin can be caused by other things.

I've done a fair amount of reading over the years in medical textbooks and journals about issues having to do with how the sebaceous glands work, and I don't recall ever seeing anything about them acting in response to some other specific condition, like levels of moisture or dryness in the skin, how much the skin is being washed, etc. The only things I know for sure that they react to is levels of sex hormones, including both androgens and estrogens, and the drug Accutane, of course. Anything else that I see people making claims about as increasing or decreasing sebum production, I automatically find pretty suspicious and doubtful.

ok sir, i don't really know about all that. i just wanted to stop the dryness underneath and that's what i am working towards. that's fine all your research is great..so yeah...thanks