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[PeanutPoppet]

Hi! (my first post )

All was going well with the regimen (just 3 weeks in but starting to see benefits) but have just had the worst ever break out at the tail end of a holiday... painful actually, never this bad! Soooo typical as I have a ball to go to tonight and I just want to hide away... unfortunately my Mum is a guest of honour and I HAVE to be there

I think I do struggle with sun creams on my face so had been extra careful about getting a good one so this was the only product of difference over the last week and a half and all I can think of that can have caused the issue. Could it have caused an issue so quickly?? (It was a bit of a party holiday but that's not exactly a change to my lifestyle at home!

These are the ingredients... can anyone spot anything lurking in there that might be the culprit?

Aqua, C12-15 alkyl benzoate, Octocrylene, Butylene glycol, Isotridecyl salicylate, Butyl methoxydibenzoylmethane, Polyglyceryl-3 methylglucose distearate, C18-36 acid glycol ester, Dimethicone, Butyrospermum parkii butter, Bis-ethylhexyloxyphenol methoxyphenyl triazine, Cetyl alcohol, Titanium dioxide, Phenoxyethanol, Sorbitan stearate, Actinidia chinensis water, Polysorbate 20, Diethylhexyl butamido triazone, Mica, Tocopheryl acetate, Parfum, Acrylates/vinyl isodecanoate crosspolymer, Vitis vinifera seed oil, Sodium ascorbyl phosphate, Alcohol, Sucrose cocoate, Glycerin, Xanthan gum, Dimethyl oxazolidine, Potassium hydroxide, Agarum cribosum extract, Dipropylene glycol, Tetrasodium EDTA, Panax ginseng extract, Sophora angustifolia extract, Manganese dioxide, Ascorbic acid, Methylparaben, Aminomethyl propanol, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Propylparaben, Isobutylparaben, CI 77891.

Thank you!!
Nicky

[NK20]

The Isotridecyl salicylate jumped out at me but I'm no chemist. It's an Iso which can be dodgy but I'd be more concerned with how closely related it is to salicylic acid. It could be overly irritating mixed with the BP. Hold out for a better answer though! There are lots of people on these boards with a great chemical knowledge.

Actually it could just be a normal breakout from the purging action of the BP. I remember getting a horrific one that was really painful and uncharacteristic between weeks 3 and 4 when I first used it. You know your skn though - do you think it wa a purge or excess irritation?

[PeanutPoppet]

Hi Niamh!:) Have to admit it did cross my mind that it might be the nasty, rogue break out that is apparently typical just as you're getting into the regimen!!

It IS uncharacteristic and I'm finding I'm getting horrible lumps under the skin whereas I'm used to having whiteheads that I can deal with pretty quickly... these seem like the blockage is way deep down in the layers of the skin and that they're not going to come to a head any time soon... horrible And the skin on top... well I just look like a burns victim around the area of the spots - fried, brown skin!! I wonder if the Panoxyl is too harsh for me (my skin certainly seems to struggle when I use it twice a day)

I am seriously considering stopping even though I know its early days as my skin is so sore and nasty looking and I think maybe the BP is hardening my spots too and making them last longer than they would normally...

Nicky

Edited by PeanutPoppet, 05 September 2010 - 03:09 PM.

[NK20]

I think you should give it a few weeks... Maybe just do night applications until it's not sore anymore and then build up again. I remember my breakout at that time being very sore and very deep. They never got heads! If you feel like the regimen just isn't for you then maybe you should stop but I'd defo recommend you keep going. Good luck

[PeanutPoppet]

Hi Niamh!:) Have to admit it did cross my mind that it might be the nasty, rogue break out that is apparently typical just as you're getting into the regimen!!

It IS uncharacteristic and I'm finding I'm getting horrible lumps under the skin whereas I'm used to having whiteheads that I can deal with pretty quickly... these seem like the blockage is way deep down in the layers of the skin and that they're not going to come to a head any time soon... horrible And the skin on top... well I just look like a burns victim around the area of the spots - fried, brown skin!! I wonder if the Panoxyl is too harsh for me (my skin certainly seems to struggle when I use it twice a day)

I am seriously considering stopping even though I know its early days as my skin is so sore and nasty looking and I think maybe the BP is hardening my spots too and making them last longer than they would normally...

Nicky

I know I should carry on but I'm finding the condition of my skin compared to what it was like BEFORE I started doing any of this stuff at all very distressing

It's a good idea and yes, I had been using just nightly and I keep trying to go up to twice a day once my skin appears to settle a bit but each time I get contact dermatitis and tight, hard burnt skin on any blemished areas. Yikes!

Maybe one last push...

[NK20]

Go for it! I was very distressed like you and I did stop but my skin just kept getting worse after I quit the Regimen. I think if I had continued I'd be clear by now but I took the tane way out!

[Ellie713]

Two things. I personally found PanOxyl 2.5% very harsh indeed compared to other things I used. I had some difficulty sourcing 2.5% BP at the beginning, and used Proactiv, then Neutrogena on the spot, and then PanOxyl. The PanOxyl burned me so much I had to reduce the amount I was using, although I have read others on here saying it is fine for them. However if you look burned, maybe switching to some other type of BP could be an option, might enable faster progress, and may allow you to use more. The best one I used was Dan's BP, but the Neutrogena was good too, if a tad 'whitening'! lol!

Second, regarding that list of ingredients, Butyl methoxydibenzoylmethane is another name for avobenzone. Dan himself has highlighted this sun block ingredient as probably causing break out problems. I would be suspicious of it.

Best wishes.