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[Whiskers McCoy]

I'm gonna do this tonight Mike, I think you have hit the nail on the head.

Whenever my skin has become a lot clearer, or looks like it is healing up, I get this weird occurance of thought. I almost think, but what if I stress and break out again. And then I will actually stress that the stressful thought I just had will induce stress hormones in my body causing acne. I think it's a form of self sabotage. My subconscious doesn't believe I am worthy of clear skin so it sabotages my healing. And I think this feeling of unworthyness comes from the years of feeling like crap as a teenager basically(mostly due to acne) *violins boo hoo*. But if I went from age 11 to 17 never feeling good about my physically appearance, being bullied at school because of it, obviously there was some psychological damage there. And I don't think until I heal my self esteem inside and start validating myself as a person inside, that my outside can heal.

Sorry for the long post, just my thoughts on negative manifestation in the subconscious. It's got to come out somewhere, if you have a defeatest attitude, why wouldn't your body start to give up on you?

[annmarie]

As I´ve expected no replies.... People are very skeptical about this.... It doesn´t hurt trying I´m not charging anything, so at least believe my good intentions (smiley with clear skin)

Hi, Firstly I believe what you have written is true in that the methodology of visualisations can produce positive results. Ok now for secondly, I think the idea needs to be posted with just a liitle bit more understanding around how and why it might fail. This is actually really deep shit - why it doen't work straight up or after even years of help. Yes years.
Please understand that I am of the belief that your intentions are good and that it does take a level of courage to be putting things like you have done out there so to speak. It takes the risk to be vunerable to possible attack. Having said that, please try and be gentle with me if you choose to reply.
In a perfect world from a perfect upbringing and perfect people all around us - we would all be positive people. However its not quite like that as I'm sure most people already know. If you are Serena or Venus Williams and your father validates the fact that you will be the No 1 tennis player in the world from a very early age, and then repeats and repeats the same belief to you- it is likely to be so. Great golf, tennis, baseball etc etc players also visualise a perfect shot long before they hit the ball, and more often than not the shot is good.
But if you come from my family, where the parents were badly wounded from their childhood with little belief or hope instilled in themselves - it was near impossible to pass any other message on than the one that was passed on to them. I came from a very violent family and had acne from a young age and (hopefully people will understand) made the situation a whole lot worse by picking at every pustule I had, and then some. Squeezing blackheads made me feel clean and gave me some control over the only thing I thought I could have in my family - my skin. Now I am obviously not that little girl anymore but I have to deal with the fact that that was how it was and that was what I did to survive the trauma of it all. In the end like you are saying really - I had to take responsibility and start the road to healing me and my skin. I understand that not everyone came from my family but nonetheless for me to wake up one morning and start saying affirmations and doing visualisations of something very different to what I knew was almost impossible. Like, realistically theoretically proven to be so. It has taken me over 10 years of intense therapy to do something else - like take care of myself, and it didn't happen overnight. Seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months and years of relentless abuse take their toll and instilled in me the belief that I was not worth very much. To change is to firstly not blame me and be understanding towards me (not just intelectually, but emotionally) that that was the very very best that I could do and that I dont have to be sorry to anyone at all. I was only little. It took a long time but I've come a long long way since then. People need people to hear and understand (like this forum which I am honoured to be a part of in the short time I have been a member). Like you, I want to help and my contribution hopefully is to add to what you have posted - to explain that while it is undoubtedly not impossible to change the way things are through visualisations - it might not be so easy for some. Some self help methods like visualisations are done alone and when you are too hurt, like I was, you firstly need love, empathy, compassion and understanding of the situation before you can just visualise a better outcome. Others have been far more fortunate and have more self esteem and can begin at such a place before others are able to do so.
Lastly I admire your courage in what you posted.
Kindest regards, Ann-marie

[ben90]

To the above post, a very good and insightfull one!

I agree with you that its different for all people, but in some respects, the people who are worst off have the best chance of becoming better than everyone else.

People such as yourself, find it harder to become positive, but it doesnt mean you cant do it! All it takes is an open mind, once you manage to overcome the first steps, it becomes easier and easier, just believe in yourself. The mind is the most powerful thing we have, so much so that there are probably unlimited uses that we cannot control yet, but could with practice and this thread is one of them.

I am happy I have had to deal with spots, because even though I still have them I have built up self control and certain mindsets that I didnt have before, and I know for sure they will be useful throughout the rest of my life. Everyone with the right mindset can become some of the strongest people on the plannet, you just have to have an open mind, and the people who suceed are the ones who bounce back from hard times and eventually become the best.

[JarodG]

I agree with this post, but I don't agree that you should just do 15 minutes a day before sleep. One should also try "walking" meditation where of course focus on where you are going, but your thoughts revolve around your body and soul, pick a certain part of your body, focus on it... also learn to truly release anger and stress, and to reflect on events in your life, not just mull them over and form a bias quickly drawn opinion, it will make everything in life more positive, help heal tons of wounds, and there is science behind stress. It can literally throw off hormones and brain patterns and create excess free radicals in your body which can cause serious damage to every bodily system.

[soosyv]

ignorance is bliss

[JarodG]

Ignorance is bliss if it lasts until you die, and only if death is swift. Imagine, learning the harsh realities of the world as you're slowly dying from cancer, and imagine that if you were only a child.

I've noticed if you talk to someone who talks to other's about a flaw of yours, they won't ever talk about it again if they have any sense of humanity, and if they have no sense of caring or humanity that just furthers the point that their view is based off childish and uncontrolled emotion and should hold no weight. Why should you ignore your flaws, they are a part of you, and you should be proud to be you, because you're not like everyone else, and in truth, it's not a flaw, it's a difference. That doesn't mean that you can't do things that you think would make you feel better, as long as it's not for everyone else. Do something for yourself for once.

I'm not fighting my acne to look better on the beach, although i'd like to be able to show off the year and a half i've put into gym dedication, i'm doing it to get rid of the pain that I physically and mentally have to go through fighting this battle, and i'm also just tired of randomly bleeding through my shirts.

[soosyv]

"Ignorance is bliss if it lasts until you die, and only if death is swift. Imagine, learning the harsh realities of the world as you're slowly dying from cancer, and imagine that if you were only a child."

I really don't understand?

[JarodG]

Say for example you ignore the fact that you could pretty much randomly die at any time.
And imagine that you're scared of death.
Now think about someone who fears death knowing that they can die at any time.
They will be constantly stressed and worried about it.
Now imagine that person was ignorant.
Stress free ignorant bliss!


I was ignorant for a long time, and now i'm learning the harsh realities of the world, and I wish I had started paying attention and thinking a long time ago, because I feel far behind where many other people my age are. I'm 20 and i've made it nowhere, done nothing, and it makes me feel pathetic. Ignorance is most assuredly not bliss for me haha.

[soosyv]

Edited by soosyv, 02 August 2010 - 07:29 PM.