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#41 Davey Boy

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (TeeGee @ May 9 2010, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, Thanks for responding.

I sent a msg to Dan and got the same response from Brandy. i haven't used it for the past 2days and i haven't had any new breakouts. to be honest, i'm really scared of applying it again since it gave me really large red bumps with puss inside. i've never gotten these types of bumps before and they are painful and unsightly. at this point i don't know if i should continue, cuz when i wake up and see these things on my face it's very depressing.


I'd keep going TeeGee. It shouldn't take very long to get through this period of your acne being made worse by the BP. The only time when someone should really consider jacking it in is if they are allergic to it, and it doesn't sound as if you have symptoms of allergy.

It's magic stuff this BP (current problems aside), and once it's working for you, you won't ever want to stop the regimen as your face will be acne free smile.gif

Edited by Davey Boy, 09 May 2010 - 03:57 PM.


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Posted 09 May 2010 - 04:52 PM

I agree with Davey Boy there TeeGee - try and stick with it, you need to give it time. Think of it as the BP purging your skin of the crap that's been lying underneath it! Once you're over this period hopefully things will improve dramatically.

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:14 AM

Hey you guys. Batch 9341 is the one I use myself right now too. I'm having no issues with it. We third party test every batch to ensure adequate amount of BP, and also test each batch for irritancy on actual human skin before sending it out. Regarding the smell, that varies from batch to batch and depending on how fresh the batch is: http://www.acne.org/faq.html#smells

Like Brandy suggested, the place to start is on these links: http://www.acne.org/regimenadvice.php
and http://www.acne.org/biggestmistakes.html Do yourselves a HUGE favor and check them out and really take some time to study what you find.

I have been through this with many people before. It is almost never the product, and is almost always some other variable, such as adding a new cleanser to the routine, eliminating moisturizer, rubbing too hard, getting a sunburn, picking...the list goes on and on. Once you nail down those variables, eliminate them, and get on the Regimen precisely, with only recommended products, people usually clear right back up. Please see the links above, spend some time really studying them, and report back here if you would.

Broken record alert: You'll need to really open your mind when looking at the links above. Be super honest in your responses to the questionnaire, and then take adequate time to look for mistakes/variables. Our minds want to latch on to one thing, and it does us a disservice sometimes. The answer is almost always right there in front of us if we open up to that possibility. I want you guys getting cleared back up, so please keep an open mind and carefully look for other variables.

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:33 AM

QUOTE (Dan @ May 10 2010, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey you guys. Batch 9341 is the one I use myself right now too. I'm having no issues with it. We third party test every batch to ensure adequate amount of BP, and also test each batch for irritancy on actual human skin before sending it out. Regarding the smell, that varies from batch to batch and depending on how fresh the batch is: http://www.acne.org/faq.html#smells

Like Brandy suggested, the place to start is on these links: http://www.acne.org/regimenadvice.php
and http://www.acne.org/biggestmistakes.html Do yourselves a HUGE favor and check them out and really take some time to study what you find.

I have been through this with many people before. It is almost never the product, and is almost always some other variable, such as adding a new cleanser to the routine, eliminating moisturizer, rubbing too hard, getting a sunburn, picking...the list goes on and on. Once you nail down those variables, eliminate them, and get on the Regimen precisely, with only recommended products, people usually clear right back up. Please see the links above, spend some time really studying them, and report back here if you would.

Broken record alert: You'll need to really open your mind when looking at the links above. Be super honest in your responses to the questionnaire, and then take adequate time to look for mistakes/variables. Our minds want to latch on to one thing, and it does us a disservice sometimes. The answer is almost always right there in front of us if we open up to that possibility. I want you guys getting cleared back up, so please keep an open mind and carefully look for other variables.




DEAR DAN KERN
today i woke up with my rightside of my face swollen up and i dont know if is the benzoyl peroxide.....becauese iv been using it for a while..now ......like first i used neutrogina on the spot than i swithed to dans bp...but my question is why is my righ side swollen im scared out of my mind ...WHAT am i goin to do...i told my mom and she said that is because i slept so good ..that i probably slep on my right side for the whole ...night i mean i did have load of dreams ...and my rightside of my facce is flacky so that means i was ressting on it for that whole time......


now is not like extremely swollen but i can defenetly see it and i feel it .....you know like when your eye swollen..... im extremely scared right now....what should i doo//



guys please and give me your advice it will be appriciated

should i go to the hospital or what

Edited by acnevsme, 10 May 2010 - 10:38 AM.


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Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:44 AM

QUOTE (Dan @ May 10 2010, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey you guys. Batch 9341 is the one I use myself right now too. I'm having no issues with it. We third party test every batch to ensure adequate amount of BP, and also test each batch for irritancy on actual human skin before sending it out. Regarding the smell, that varies from batch to batch and depending on how fresh the batch is: http://www.acne.org/faq.html#smells

Like Brandy suggested, the place to start is on these links: http://www.acne.org/regimenadvice.php
and http://www.acne.org/biggestmistakes.html Do yourselves a HUGE favor and check them out and really take some time to study what you find.

I have been through this with many people before. It is almost never the product, and is almost always some other variable, such as adding a new cleanser to the routine, eliminating moisturizer, rubbing too hard, getting a sunburn, picking...the list goes on and on. Once you nail down those variables, eliminate them, and get on the Regimen precisely, with only recommended products, people usually clear right back up. Please see the links above, spend some time really studying them, and report back here if you would.

Broken record alert: You'll need to really open your mind when looking at the links above. Be super honest in your responses to the questionnaire, and then take adequate time to look for mistakes/variables. Our minds want to latch on to one thing, and it does us a disservice sometimes. The answer is almost always right there in front of us if we open up to that possibility. I want you guys getting cleared back up, so please keep an open mind and carefully look for other variables.



Thanks Dan. I really appreciate you taking the time to personally come and reply to this thread.

I will spend some time ensuring my regimen is proper and thorough, and see how i get on. It is very reassuring to know how rigorously the BP gel is tested for strength and irritation.

I will report back in a few weeks and let everyone know how my skin is doing!

Thanks again,
DB.

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE (acnevsme @ May 10 2010, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
DEAR DAN KERN
today i woke up with my rightside of my face swollen up and i dont know if is the benzoyl peroxide.....becauese iv been using it for a while..now ......like first i used neutrogina on the spot than i swithed to dans bp...but my question is why is my righ side swollen im scared out of my mind ...WHAT am i goin to do...i told my mom and she said that is because i slept so good ..that i probably slep on my right side for the whole ...night i mean i did have load of dreams ...and my rightside of my facce is flacky so that means i was ressting on it for that whole time......


now is not like extremely swollen but i can defenetly see it and i feel it .....you know like when your eye swollen..... im extremely scared right now....what should i doo//



guys please and give me your advice it will be appriciated

should i go to the hospital or what


acnevsme, no one here can assess whether you need to go to the hospital or not, that has to be your decision. Just remember, better to be safe than sorry, so if you are in any doubt, you are probably best going.



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Posted 10 May 2010 - 11:01 AM

QUOTE (Dan @ May 10 2010, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey you guys. Batch 9341 is the one I use myself right now too. I'm having no issues with it. We third party test every batch to ensure adequate amount of BP, and also test each batch for irritancy on actual human skin before sending it out. Regarding the smell, that varies from batch to batch and depending on how fresh the batch is: http://www.acne.org/faq.html#smells

Like Brandy suggested, the place to start is on these links: http://www.acne.org/regimenadvice.php
and http://www.acne.org/biggestmistakes.html Do yourselves a HUGE favor and check them out and really take some time to study what you find.

I have been through this with many people before. It is almost never the product, and is almost always some other variable, such as adding a new cleanser to the routine, eliminating moisturizer, rubbing too hard, getting a sunburn, picking...the list goes on and on. Once you nail down those variables, eliminate them, and get on the Regimen precisely, with only recommended products, people usually clear right back up. Please see the links above, spend some time really studying them, and report back here if you would.

Broken record alert: You'll need to really open your mind when looking at the links above. Be super honest in your responses to the questionnaire, and then take adequate time to look for mistakes/variables. Our minds want to latch on to one thing, and it does us a disservice sometimes. The answer is almost always right there in front of us if we open up to that possibility. I want you guys getting cleared back up, so please keep an open mind and carefully look for other variables.



Hi Dan,

Thanks for the response, but I don't agree.

I've been using your products for quite a number of years now - long enough to know how it works, smells, feels etc. There is something quite different compared to previous supplies that I've had, otherwise I and others wouldn't have bothered to come on and post regarding it.
I have changed NOTHING in my routine, and have lived in this 'skin' for a long time time now!

The smoothness of application IS different, the smell is TOTALLY different - and that is not just a new batch thing; but firstly, the drop in effectiveness is the MAIN thing. I'm happy for you that it still works, but I/we are just letting you know that it has changed.



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Posted 11 May 2010 - 06:34 AM

I have to say, that it's hard to imagine where else I am going wrong that causes the BP to not zap new pimples as they come up, like previous batches have.

I caught a pimple very early 2 days ago, and hit it with BP. It has now turned into a large pimple. This isn't the first case with this new BP, and I can't think of the last time that the old BP didn't kill a pimple that I caught early.

Edited by Davey Boy, 11 May 2010 - 06:35 AM.


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Posted 11 May 2010 - 07:10 AM

Davey, it's been the same for me. There were times when I'd get a bit slack with the regime, and knowing that the acne would come back - and it did, I just blitzed it, no problem.
When my last supply ran out I didn't have BP for approx 1-2 weeks. I had a wedding to attend and after already being back on it for 1 week and not seeing any immediate results I went into a week of blitzing it before the wedding. When it came to the wedding - I still had some very noticeable acne on my corner/chin.

The older stuff would have had it away in a day or two - easily.





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Posted 11 May 2010 - 08:38 AM

I'm looking at what other options we have.

Basically, it's either Oxy On The Spot, or Panoxyl. I know that Oxy is good stuff, as I used it to begin with, before Dan's BP came out. It's just to expensive though really, at about £4 a tube that lasts a week.

Panoxyl is about £3 for a tube twice the size, so thats ok price wise. However, reports about it are mixed at best.

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 09:19 AM

davey boy

hang with it just now. The other 'off the shelf' stuff is too expensive to consider going down that route. It's my personal opinion that it's the strength of Dan's BP which has weakened. Don't try the panoxyl - it's way too strong. I used it years ago and face looked like a red indian! Also dried up skin too much.

I might try mixing some panoxyl with the BP, increasing the strength a little - and see how that goes though (not that I'd recommend you kids try that at home!!!)

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 06:24 PM

Other than using a much larger amount of BP in an attempt to control things the only change I've made is switching forms of exfoliation. I previously used St. Ives Apricot Scrub. Everyone always gasped in horror when I told them I used it and felt the need to tell me how horrible it was for my skin, so I made the switch to Dan's AHA. My game plan at this point is to switch back to the St. Ives for the next month to see if that doesn't clear things up. Hopefully that works! Otherwise I'm at a loss as it's the only thing that's changed.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 02:14 AM

QUOTE (beefree @ May 11 2010, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Other than using a much larger amount of BP in an attempt to control things the only change I've made is switching forms of exfoliation. I previously used St. Ives Apricot Scrub. Everyone always gasped in horror when I told them I used it and felt the need to tell me how horrible it was for my skin, so I made the switch to Dan's AHA. My game plan at this point is to switch back to the St. Ives for the next month to see if that doesn't clear things up. Hopefully that works! Otherwise I'm at a loss as it's the only thing that's changed.


Are you saying that you've noticed a change in the BP?

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 02:16 AM

QUOTE (astrobhoy @ May 11 2010, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
davey boy

hang with it just now. The other 'off the shelf' stuff is too expensive to consider going down that route. It's my personal opinion that it's the strength of Dan's BP which has weakened. Don't try the panoxyl - it's way too strong. I used it years ago and face looked like a red indian! Also dried up skin too much.

I might try mixing some panoxyl with the BP, increasing the strength a little - and see how that goes though (not that I'd recommend you kids try that at home!!!)


What strength Panolxyl were you using though astrobhoy? They do 10%, 5% and a 2.5%. I don't know if they always used to do the 2.5%, it might be new(ish).


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Posted 12 May 2010 - 06:53 PM

Astrobhoy-

Yes, I've noticed a change in the BP about a year ago...please see my previous post.

However, both C'est and Dan seem rather convinced that it's not the BP and the issue is something else in my routine that has changed. So, as requested by them, I went through my entire routine and the only thing I've changed is the exfoliation. I will be switching back to my old exfoliation to rule out or in its role.

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 01:25 AM

QUOTE (Davey Boy @ May 11 2010, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm looking at what other options we have.

Basically, it's either Oxy On The Spot, or Panoxyl. I know that Oxy is good stuff, as I used it to begin with, before Dan's BP came out. It's just to expensive though really, at about £4 a tube that lasts a week.

Panoxyl is about £3 for a tube twice the size, so thats ok price wise. However, reports about it are mixed at best.


Hey Davey, I was having too many pus filled pimples on Dan's Bp so i decided to return. which is a shame cuz i was really hoping this would be the end all for my acne situation. the same day i went to walmart and picked up Panoxyl 5% aquagel and to be honest with u, i was amazed at the results. the pimples i got were drying up. this is my new bp, they didn't have 2.5% concentration so i went with this instead of 10%. I'm so happy i found this stuff and it absorbs really well and doesn't clump. if your looking into changing from Dan's Bp i think you should give it a shot, it may work out for u just as much as it did for me. i love it.

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 01:46 PM

I just received my new BP from DanielKern.com store. I ordered 2 16oz bottles and 1 8oz tube for a friend. Now, here is what I found out.

The tube is batch 9341 as my old bottle I got, its about to run out.
The bottles were a newer batch, it is 0014 with expiration 01/12.

This is just to let you guys know... maybe when you order next time and want to avoid the 9341, you can go with a 16oz this time.

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 01:48 PM

QUOTE (Lvth @ May 13 2010, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just received my new BP from DanielKern.com store. I ordered 2 16oz bottles and 1 8oz tube for a friend. Now, here is what I found out.

The tube is batch 9341 as my old bottle I got, its about to run out.
The bottles were a newer batch, it is 0014 with expiration 01/12.

This is just to let you guys know... maybe when you order next time and want to avoid the 9341, you can go with a 16oz this time.




cool - let us all know how you get on with it, and if you notice any difference at all.

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 08:01 AM

Hi I am new to the forum, but have been on the regimen for 2 and a half years. My skin is completely clear except the occasional pimple thanks to DKR. I have used Neutrogena on the spot for a year and a half, then switched to DK products. Works great and never felt better until recently when I ordered a new batch of DK BP. AT first it wasn't much, just some dry patches, then i started peeling and the doctor diagnosed me with eczema. I thought okay, maybe it's the weather and cut down on the harsh products including AHA, SA and BP. Then each time i tried putting on BP again i would get red itchy spots. Finally needed to revisit the doctor and be subscribed with pills as well as hydrocortisone cream. Thing is this batch of BP feels and smells quite different and I'm positive it's the BP that is causing the reaction/ Now there is no way I am allergic to BP as I've been using it for 2 and a half years. There has been similar problems to certain batches before. Where the concentration of other ingredients gone up and caused an allergic reaction to people with sensitive skin. Gonna switch back to neutrogena on the spot tomorrow. At least I'm glad it's not my skin that's the root of the problems! Let me know if anyone is having the same problems

QUOTE (astrobhoy @ May 14 2010, 03:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Lvth @ May 13 2010, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just received my new BP from DanielKern.com store. I ordered 2 16oz bottles and 1 8oz tube for a friend. Now, here is what I found out.

The tube is batch 9341 as my old bottle I got, its about to run out.
The bottles were a newer batch, it is 0014 with expiration 01/12.

This is just to let you guys know... maybe when you order next time and want to avoid the 9341, you can go with a 16oz this time.




cool - let us all know how you get on with it, and if you notice any difference at all.



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Posted 16 June 2010 - 08:06 AM

QUOTE (chilla @ Apr 27 2010, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just got a new Dan's BP last week. It smells different from the old travel size one. I know it is said on the website that the new one may smell thicker. But mine smells thinner? Can Dan give me an explaination? I am afraid to put it on my face.


mine as well
and the new batch is giving me a very bad reaction




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